[nabs-l] For Justin: was Re: the test accomodations

Sat Apr 27 03:27:57 UTC 2013

Sorry about the broken time.  How do I repair that?

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From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
Tyler
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:21 PM
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Subject: [nabs-l] For Justin: was Re: the test accomodations

Justin:
Your timestamps on your messages are all sorts of broken--perhaps you 
could set your clock to the right time? I get 4 unread messages and I 
have to go back through kept messages to find yours and read/delete.
On 4/26/2013 9:00 PM, justin williams wrote:
> Sounds like a possible ADA case if it gets to far.
>
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> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
Bramlett
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:21 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] the test accomodations
>
> Arielle,
> oOh, um, this is a community college. I'm finished my BA degree but taking
> classes to further my studies and get a writing certificate. The class I
> need a competent reader for is religion.
> No a TA won't work. Also, Its community college.
> you make it sound easy. Gee, I do wish I could get my own readers. Gosh. I
> can think of like 20 people who would be competent readers and have a clue
> how to read such a test. But no, they don't allow me to do this.
>
> I do indeed have my own readers for studying and reading texts and looking
> up material and research, but
> no I cannot bring a reader to the exam. Personally, I think this is a
legal
> matter and they need to change the policy so you can have the option to
> bring your own competent reader as an accomodation under the ADA. Its not
> fair, not equal access, and can cause one to get a lower
> grade using bad readers.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arielle Silverman
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:45 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] the test accomodations
>
> You can also ask the professor if the teaching assistant can
> read/scribe your exam, if there is one for the class. Most teaching
> assistants are graduate students or advanced undergraduates in the
> department and should know the material well, and since they're
> trusted employees of the professor, they are trusted not to help you
> cheat. Plus, many TA's have nothing else to do during an exam and
> would otherwise just be sitting around. If the class has no teaching
> assistant, as in a community college, maybe the professor could read
> it for you and scribe your answers during office hours the day before
> the test or some such?
> I know that blind students have hired their own readers for testing,
> which allows them to pick people who are competent. Some disability
> services offices frown on this practice because they prefer to hire
> and manage readers themselves, but it's an option that's at least
> worth discussing with your professor, who might not care much.
> Arielle
>
> On 4/27/13, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu> wrote:
>> I haven't used readers since I am a partial and use cctv but when I had
>> disabled students pay for a chemistry lab aid I insisted the person was a
>> chem major and an A student.
>>
>> So maybe you could find your readers through the department. And then you
>> interview them by having them read to you.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Kirt <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm in the middle of the nightmare that is transferring between
colleges,
>>> but the college I am leaving almost always provided me with competent
and
>>> capable readers. Sure, they might pronounce a few words incorrectly But
>>> they knew how to read out loud.  I hope I don't run into the same
problem
>>> you are dealing with right now and my next college.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Ashley Bramlett"
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> As finals approach, I wanted to know what test accomodations you get.
>>>> Do
>>> you feel they are adaquate and meet your needs?
>>>> If you need a reader and person to scribe your answers on a scantron,
>>> how are they? Are they competent readers?
>>>> I'm going through a discriminatory situation now. Most my readers were
>>> incompetent but I got around that by asking them to speak slower and
>>> repeat
>>> things; I mean they could not speak all that clearly and read fast and
>>> spoke to the paper not articulately to me. Many exams I took with jaws
to
>>> avoid this; I feel this way is slower for me and a reader can directly
>>> mark
>>> my answers on a scantron as well as go back to questions I missed. If I
>>> need a reader scribe I should be given a competent reader.
>>>> I'll tell more about this specific test issue in another message.
>>>>
>>>> Look forward to seeing your responses.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
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