[nabs-l] For Justin: was Re: the test accomodations

Sat Apr 27 03:47:21 UTC 2013

Thanks man.   

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From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
Tyler
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] For Justin: was Re: the test accomodations

if you're on windows seven, just hit start, type date and either hit enter
on date and time or arrow down to date and time. you'll need to set your
time zone and everything else, but it should get your timestamps back on
track.
On 4/26/2013 9:27 PM, justin williams wrote:
> Sorry about the broken time.  How do I repair that?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Littlefield, Tyler
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 11:21 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] For Justin: was Re: the test accomodations
>
> Justin:
> Your timestamps on your messages are all sorts of broken--perhaps you 
> could set your clock to the right time? I get 4 unread messages and I 
> have to go back through kept messages to find yours and read/delete.
> On 4/26/2013 9:00 PM, justin williams wrote:
>> Sounds like a possible ADA case if it gets to far.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
> Bramlett
>> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:21 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] the test accomodations
>>
>> Arielle,
>> oOh, um, this is a community college. I'm finished my BA degree but 
>> taking classes to further my studies and get a writing certificate. 
>> The class I need a competent reader for is religion.
>> No a TA won't work. Also, Its community college.
>> you make it sound easy. Gee, I do wish I could get my own readers. 
>> Gosh. I can think of like 20 people who would be competent readers 
>> and have a clue how to read such a test. But no, they don't allow me to
do this.
>>
>> I do indeed have my own readers for studying and reading texts and 
>> looking up material and research, but no I cannot bring a reader to 
>> the exam. Personally, I think this is a
> legal
>> matter and they need to change the policy so you can have the option 
>> to bring your own competent reader as an accomodation under the ADA. 
>> Its not fair, not equal access, and can cause one to get a lower 
>> grade using bad readers.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Arielle Silverman
>> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:45 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] the test accomodations
>>
>> You can also ask the professor if the teaching assistant can 
>> read/scribe your exam, if there is one for the class. Most teaching 
>> assistants are graduate students or advanced undergraduates in the 
>> department and should know the material well, and since they're 
>> trusted employees of the professor, they are trusted not to help you 
>> cheat. Plus, many TA's have nothing else to do during an exam and 
>> would otherwise just be sitting around. If the class has no teaching 
>> assistant, as in a community college, maybe the professor could read 
>> it for you and scribe your answers during office hours the day before 
>> the test or some such?
>> I know that blind students have hired their own readers for testing, 
>> which allows them to pick people who are competent. Some disability 
>> services offices frown on this practice because they prefer to hire 
>> and manage readers themselves, but it's an option that's at least 
>> worth discussing with your professor, who might not care much.
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 4/27/13, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu> wrote:
>>> I haven't used readers since I am a partial and use cctv but when I 
>>> had disabled students pay for a chemistry lab aid I insisted the 
>>> person was a chem major and an A student.
>>>
>>> So maybe you could find your readers through the department. And 
>>> then you interview them by having them read to you.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Kirt <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm in the middle of the nightmare that is transferring between
> colleges,
>>>> but the college I am leaving almost always provided me with 
>>>> competent
> and
>>>> capable readers. Sure, they might pronounce a few words incorrectly 
>>>> But they knew how to read out loud.  I hope I don't run into the 
>>>> same
> problem
>>>> you are dealing with right now and my next college.
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 27, 2013, at 11:21 AM, "Ashley Bramlett"
>>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> As finals approach, I wanted to know what test accomodations you get.
>>>>> Do
>>>> you feel they are adaquate and meet your needs?
>>>>> If you need a reader and person to scribe your answers on a 
>>>>> scantron,
>>>> how are they? Are they competent readers?
>>>>> I'm going through a discriminatory situation now. Most my readers 
>>>>> were
>>>> incompetent but I got around that by asking them to speak slower 
>>>> and repeat things; I mean they could not speak all that clearly and 
>>>> read fast and spoke to the paper not articulately to me. Many exams 
>>>> I took with jaws
> to
>>>> avoid this; I feel this way is slower for me and a reader can 
>>>> directly mark my answers on a scantron as well as go back to 
>>>> questions I missed. If I need a reader scribe I should be given a 
>>>> competent reader.
>>>>> I'll tell more about this specific test issue in another message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look forward to seeing your responses.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ashley
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