[nabs-l] update on rehab affairs

Thu Aug 29 20:40:28 UTC 2013

On 8/29/2013 1:12 PM, Dan Burke wrote:
> The issue under  discussion is called "Order of Selection." Any state VR agency has to declare this if they realize they don't have enough money to both serve current clients and open and serve new cases.
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> So the issue is not when one registered with VR or for college.  It is actually that those who are already eligible and have an Individualized Plan for Employment (IPE) in operation.  Under the federal VR rules, if you are in a plan, then your plan cannot be interrupted by Order of Selection.
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> Colorado is in Order of Selection. Georgia has been in it as well, the state of Washington was in it a few years ago, and I believe is out of it. Montana expects to go to Order of Selection this calendar year, and other states may also  be facing this.
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> So if you apply for services in Colorado after Order of Selection was declared, you have to wait.  As the state VR agency gets its budget under control it may then begin to serve  those who have applied on a priority basis, and blind clients may be in the highest priority category in most cases.
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> BTW, a state would be wise to declare Order of Selection before it has to stop taking the highest priority clients, and thus be able to accept and serve those folks without putting them on a waiting list.  Folks like, say, blind students transitioning from high school to college.  That would be a good management strategy.
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> Dan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of blackbyrdfly at gmail.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:20 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] update on rehab affairs
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> Yes, we're both in CO. Yes, the list is primarily college students who registered after a certain date. The reason given was that the agency's funding was cut and there is a very large number of students who applied for services after the cut. Blind students have high priority (the agency is not restricted to serving blind people, it handles all disabilities) but other than that its just a waiting game.
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> On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:02 PM, "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> As a college student you got put on that waiting list?  I've never seen
>> college students have to be on the waiting list if they put their request in
>> at a reasonable amount of time like the year before.  Are you in the same
>> state as Beth? You might want to look in to filing a cap claim yourself.
>> I'm not trying to be critical or anything, but I've worked at an agency
>> before, I've seen the process be speeded up when they needed to be, like
>> when someone filed a claim.  A year is too long.    Don't worry about the
>> list; make your own list with you at the front, and at the back.  You got to
>> get what you need to get.  I'm not trying to say that you or anyone else
>> should be obnoxious and impatient, but sometimes the system has to be pushed
>> a little bit.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> blackbyrdfly at gmail.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:59 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] update on rehab affairs
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>> I'm not even going to try to cover all of this here. I just wanted to point
>> out that EVERYONE is on that wait list, and it has nothing to do with you.
>> I've been on it for over a year now and have had to pay my tuition for the
>> past year out of pocket and start looking for a survival job to stay in
>> school. You can't just get magically bumped to the front of the queue for no
>> related reason. You have to wait for funds to become available just like the
>> rest of us.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 27, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Beth Taurasi <denverqueen1107 at comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey you all, this is a brief update as nothing much has happened in the
>> saga of me and Rehab.
>>> I have contacted Client Assistance program rep Anna French, if any
>> Coloradoans have known who she was.  Or is.  Sorry about the miswording
>> there.  I contacted Anna French twice and left two messages, and have
>> contacts else where and around the U.S. I can reach, but it seems none of my
>> contacts will get back to me.  Shoot, I don't know what to do next.  I think
>> I'm going to see about resolving the issue like this, see if anyone has any
>> ideas for this:
>>> 1. The counselor must be changed.
>>> 2. The services must be provided and compensatory funds must be provided
>> for all technological stuff I am asking for, no matter the plans.
>>> 3. A plan must be written up, no wait list, nothing.  And in this plan, we
>> need to do an employment goal of computers and stuff, like web design,
>> networking, IT basically.  I want to get an IT certification from CISCO, so
>> they should ideally pay for something accessible and not something that
>> would require too much paying in advance accommodations and such.  I'd
>> chosen CISCO Academy of the Visually Impaired because it accommodates blind
>> people and teaches all the skills needed to do Linux and stuff, networking
>> and the like.
>>> 3. Any psychological evaluations must be carefully mmonitored and if a
>> racial profiling like that which occurred in 2011, in which the doc wrote
>> that I was pretending to be Arab occurs in the form of, "pretending to be
>> Syrian/Catholic", I will ask that the doc be revoked of his license.  I am
>> already thinking about actions to take against the doc because Richele, my
>> counselor current, has the copy that says I was pretending to be Arab and
>> didn't think to shred and get a copy without the Arab comments.  One more
>> thing in the resolution, if they refuse to put together an employment goal
>> that I write for myself, then I will drop the case with them and sue them
>> for lost wages and compensatory damages related to racial profiling.
>>> This may all sound weird, but how does this all sound to the public as a
>> whole?  SHould I go about this?  If they refuse to do as I ask since the
>> social skills group isn't available and since this provider is notorious for
>> being not only white/American biased but sighted and custodially biased, do
>> you think this is good?
>>> Thanks you all,
>>> Beth Taurasi
>>>
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If Colorado is in order of selection, well, let's just say there's a 
plan for mental health treatment in order, but they are refusing to get 
me off the wait list.  They won't even serve me because of mental stuff 
and they want me to do something that is impossible to do and my 
caseworker at MHCD has said so clearly that the mango vanilla ice cream 
is simply not available and there's no such thing. lol  Thanks.
Beth