[nabs-l] update on rehab affairs

Lucy Sirianni lucysirianni at earthlink.net
Thu Aug 29 21:02:29 UTC 2013 

I'd like to offer any assistance I can here but am having trouble 
following the thread as so many of the messages do not appear at 
the top of the email in which they're included and are thus quite 
difficult to find.  Could folks try to be sure that their 
messages show up above the email to which they're replying so the 
rest of us can easily find them?

Thanks, everyone!

Lucy

> ----- Original Message -----
>From: Beth Taurasi <denverqueen1107 at comcast.net
>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>Date sent: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 14:40:28 -0600
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] update on rehab affairs

>On 8/29/2013 1:12 PM, Dan Burke wrote:
>> The issue under  discussion is called "Order of Selection." Any 
state VR agency has to declare this if they realize they don't 
have enough money to both serve current clients and open and 
serve new cases.

>> So the issue is not when one registered with VR or for college.  
It is actually that those who are already eligible and have an 
Individualized Plan for Employment (IPE) in operation.  Under the 
federal VR rules, if you are in a plan, then your plan cannot be 
interrupted by Order of Selection.

>> Colorado is in Order of Selection.  Georgia has been in it as 
well, the state of Washington was in it a few years ago, and I 
believe is out of it.  Montana expects to go to Order of 
Selection this calendar year, and other states may also  be 
facing this.

>> So if you apply for services in Colorado after Order of 
Selection was declared, you have to wait.  As the state VR agency 
gets its budget under control it may then begin to serve  those 
who have applied on a priority basis, and blind clients may be in 
the highest priority category in most cases.

>> BTW, a state would be wise to declare Order of Selection before 
it has to stop taking the highest priority clients, and thus be 
able to accept and serve those folks without putting them on a 
waiting list.  Folks like, say, blind students transitioning from 
high school to college.  That would be a good management 
strategy.

>> Dan


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
blackbyrdfly at gmail.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:20 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] update on rehab affairs

>> Yes, we're both in CO.  Yes, the list is primarily college 
students who registered after a certain date.  The reason given 
was that the agency's funding was cut and there is a very large 
number of students who applied for services after the cut.  Blind 
students have high priority (the agency is not restricted to 
serving blind people, it handles all disabilities) but other than 
that its just a waiting game.

>> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Aug 27, 2013, at 7:02 PM, "justin williams" 
<justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:

>>> As a college student you got put on that waiting list?  I've 
never seen
>>> college students have to be on the waiting list if they put 
their request in
>>> at a reasonable amount of time like the year before.  Are you in 
the same
>>> state as Beth? You might want to look in to filing a cap claim 
yourself.
>>> I'm not trying to be critical or anything, but I've worked at an 
agency
>>> before, I've seen the process be speeded up when they needed to 
be, like
>>> when someone filed a claim.  A year is too long.    Don't worry 
about the
>>> list; make your own list with you at the front, and at the back.  
You got to
>>> get what you need to get.  I'm not trying to say that you or 
anyone else
>>> should be obnoxious and impatient, but sometimes the system has 
to be pushed
>>> a little bit.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> blackbyrdfly at gmail.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:59 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] update on rehab affairs

>>> I'm not even going to try to cover all of this here.  I just 
wanted to point
>>> out that EVERYONE is on that wait list, and it has nothing to do 
with you.
>>> I've been on it for over a year now and have had to pay my 
tuition for the
>>> past year out of pocket and start looking for a survival job to 
stay in
>>> school.  You can't just get magically bumped to the front of the 
queue for no
>>> related reason.  You have to wait for funds to become available 
just like the
>>> rest of us.

>>> Sent from my iPhone

>>> On Aug 27, 2013, at 5:41 PM, Beth Taurasi 
<denverqueen1107 at comcast.net
>>> wrote:

>>>> Hey you all, this is a brief update as nothing much has happened 
in the
>>> saga of me and Rehab.
>>>> I have contacted Client Assistance program rep Anna French, if 
any
>>> Coloradoans have known who she was.  Or is.  Sorry about the 
miswording
>>> there.  I contacted Anna French twice and left two messages, and 
have
>>> contacts else where and around the U.S.  I can reach, but it 
seems none of my
>>> contacts will get back to me.  Shoot, I don't know what to do 
next.  I think
>>> I'm going to see about resolving the issue like this, see if 
anyone has any
>>> ideas for this:
>>>> 1.  The counselor must be changed.
>>>> 2.  The services must be provided and compensatory funds must be 
provided
>>> for all technological stuff I am asking for, no matter the 
plans.
>>>> 3.  A plan must be written up, no wait list, nothing.  And in 
this plan, we
>>> need to do an employment goal of computers and stuff, like web 
design,
>>> networking, IT basically.  I want to get an IT certification 
from CISCO, so
>>> they should ideally pay for something accessible and not 
something that
>>> would require too much paying in advance accommodations and 
such.  I'd
>>> chosen CISCO Academy of the Visually Impaired because it 
accommodates blind
>>> people and teaches all the skills needed to do Linux and stuff, 
networking
>>> and the like.
>>>> 3.  Any psychological evaluations must be carefully mmonitored 
and if a
>>> racial profiling like that which occurred in 2011, in which the 
doc wrote
>>> that I was pretending to be Arab occurs in the form of, 
"pretending to be
>>> Syrian/Catholic", I will ask that the doc be revoked of his 
license.  I am
>>> already thinking about actions to take against the doc because 
Richele, my
>>> counselor current, has the copy that says I was pretending to be 
Arab and
>>> didn't think to shred and get a copy without the Arab comments.  
One more
>>> thing in the resolution, if they refuse to put together an 
employment goal
>>> that I write for myself, then I will drop the case with them and 
sue them
>>> for lost wages and compensatory damages related to racial 
profiling.
>>>> This may all sound weird, but how does this all sound to the 
public as a
>>> whole?  SHould I go about this?  If they refuse to do as I ask 
since the
>>> social skills group isn't available and since this provider is 
notorious for
>>> being not only white/American biased but sighted and custodially 
biased, do
>>> you think this is good?
>>>> Thanks you all,
>>>> Beth Taurasi

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>If Colorado is in order of selection, well, let's just say 
there's a
>plan for mental health treatment in order, but they are refusing 
to get
>me off the wait list.  They won't even serve me because of mental 
stuff
>and they want me to do something that is impossible to do and my
>caseworker at MHCD has said so clearly that the mango vanilla ice 
cream
>is simply not available and there's no such thing.  lol  Thanks.
>Beth

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