[nabs-l] Some Questions About Attending College

Ashley Bramlett bookwormahb at earthlink.net
Mon Dec 23 20:31:50 UTC 2013


Helga,
sounds like you need some openbook  training. Openbook is an OCR program.
You will need to go page by page unless you have a document feeder on your 
scanner. if so, it will feed the pages in for you if you cut the binding.
Misty is right, scanning is a long process and often inaccurate.
Try to get your dss to do it if at all possible.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Helga Schreiber
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 12:46 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Some Questions About Attending College

Hi Misty,this is Helga. I just wanted to ask you, do you think I should scan 
my books by myself since I have own open book, and even though I'm totally 
blind? Also, does OCR is included with Open book? Just curious! Also, how 
can I scan books in Open book without doing it a page at a time? Would it be 
a way to do it faster with Open book? Just curious! I will really appreciate 
it, if you could give me some suggestions regarding this. Thanks and God 
bless! :)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 23, 2013, at 12:30 AM, "Misty Dawn Bradley" 
> <mistydbradley at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Helga,
> It sounds like the DS office scanned the book in as a graphic rather than 
> as text. In order to scan something into text, they have to use optical 
> character recognition (OCR) software, such as ABBYY Fine Reader, Kurzweil, 
> OpenBook, or ReadIris. I wonder if you can bring this up to them and tell 
> them that you need it scanned into text and not a graphic? It surprises me 
> that many DS offices are not knowledgable about putting things into 
> accessible format and scanning properly, etc. They should be able to scan 
> it with OCR, and this should correct the problem of the Microsoft Word 
> document coming up as a picture, because scanning it as OCR using an OCR 
> program will scan it and turn it into editable text that can be read by 
> JAWS and will not be a picture.
> I hope this helps,
> Misty
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Helga Schreiber
> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 12:20 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Some Questions About Attending College
>
> Hi Ashley, this is Helga. I just wanted to ask you, how do I do that? I
> actually have an open book, but it's open book 8. Actually, I happen to 
> have
> Open book 9, but I haven't the chance to install it on my laptop yet. Do I
> use Open book to scan my books? Just to let you know, my books have
> pictures, and how would I know if I'm scanning my books right, since I'm
> actually totally blind? Just curius! What would you do in this case? In
> fact, I told my DSS adviser that I would like to have my books in Word
> format, and she actually gave me my Literature book in Microsoft word
> format, but JAWS didn't read it, due to the fact that it was a picture. 
> This
> is actually what  somebody told me when he saw the file. So in the end, my
> DSS adviser ended up giving me the book in PDF format. And as you know, I
> really don't like PDF because the words are attached together and it's 
> very
> messy! And also I don't like PDF because whenever it comes to be a picture
> or some kind of image, JAWS always says graphic, and it's so hard to pass
> through it, and I actually get borred in trying reading the book. I don't
> know what to do about this situations. Sometimes I really get frustrated
> about them! That is why I would Like to have my books in Braille! My DSS
> office is not as large as others, but my adviser doesn't really coperate
> with me at all. Just to let you know, my first language is not English, 
> and
> sometimes listening to books in audio is not great sometimes, since I 
> don't
> know how the words are spell out. That is why I would like to have my book
> in Braille in order to follow along with the audio book. But not all the
> book only the chapters assign! Actually, my college has an Braille 
> Embosser.
> And when I ask my adviser to print my book in Braille, but only the assign
> chapters of the book, she tells me that the will cost a lot of money! 
> Thanks
> for listening to me! God bless! :)
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
> Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2013 11:41 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Some Questions About Attending College
>
> Helga,
> Then scan them yourself or pay someone to do it.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Helga Schreiber
> Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 7:23 PM
> To: louvins at gmail.com ; National Association of BlindStudents mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Some Questions About Attending College
>
> Hey Joshua, this is Helga. What would happen if my DSS office don't have a
>
> Senta machine to scan my books? But I would like to have them scan! What
> should do about it? I really hate my books in PDF format. I'll really
> appreciate it, if you could give me some suggestions. Thanks and God 
> bless!!
> :-) from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 21, 2013, at 2:58 PM, "Joshua Hendrickson" <louvins at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lizzy.  What I used to do, was purchase my textbook from the
>> college bookstore, and give the book and receipt to my disability
>> support office.  The receipt was to show proof of purchase.  Then my
>> disability support office would scan the book or books I needed using
>> kurzweil.  Then I would get the book on cd in mp3 format.  I know now
>> my DS office uses dolphin reader and can put the books in daisy
>> format.  I wouldn't be charged anything to have my DS office scan the
>> books I needed.  At least for me, my textbooks were scanned and
>> proofed very well.  Good luck.  I would also agree that if you're
>> looking for a notetaker for college the braille-sense u2 would be your
>> best bet.  I'm going to see if my REHAB office will get me one.
>>
>>> On 12/21/13, lizzy <lizzym0827 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I just have a few more questions about text books to add to the
>>> discussion.  I know some of you said that your office of
>>> disabilities will scan them for you, but what have others done?
>>> Do you (personally) have to pay the person in disabilities scan
>>> for you or did they hire someone specifically to do this? Does
>>> anyone scan the books themselves using Kurzwhile? Is there a
>>> machine that can get the job done on its own? Is it usually a
>>> hassle to get the PDF versions of textbooks from publishers?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lizzy
>>>
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