[nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues with other blind folks

Wed Feb 20 13:31:52 UTC 2013

Good morning, Mauricio,

At a risk of belaboring this point, NO age restriction!! Isn't a 
point of a List to share diverse exeriences? How can this be achieved 
if we arbitrarily shut ouit people's experiences?
Carwrote:
>Two things -- some list software doesn't allow spaces in the name, 
>although some may.  Secondly, while nfb does not have a monopoly or 
>copyright on the "talk" word, a number of our lists use it, blind 
>talk, nfb talk, etc., and have for many years.  It might be clearer 
>if you didn't use it so there was no confusion as to the 
>source/sponsor of list.
>
>I do think the list is a good idea -- and I am glad to see you guys 
>do this, but it is probably better if the list is separate from our 
>official lists.
>
>David Andrews, List Owner
>
>
>
>At 12:47 AM 2/19/2013, you wrote:
>>Ok, I think I'll go with Blind Social Talk. It's general enough
>>without being too broad, but also states its purpose clearly. The only
>>thing I have to do now is create a file for the rules that will be
>>sent out on a monthly basis, then I'll create the group itself, since
>>that only takes a minute to do.
>>there's one more thing I would like some opinions on, however. When a
>>person joins the list, I will approve them, as I don't trust the
>>system of just having Yahoo automatically approve everyone. I've seen
>>what happens when groups get overrun by spammers. So, since this group
>>is aimed at a target audience, and sensitive information is going to
>>be shared, do you think it would be sensible for me to ask that each
>>person write a brief statement about themselves before they're
>>approved to join, just so I can get a feel for their motivations for
>>joining, and their age? I don't want to seem overly paranoid, but the
>>last thing we need is a bunch of trolls or people who are up to no
>>good. No offense to anyone on this list, as I highly doubt such people
>>are here to join, but I'm hoping that the word is spread beyond this
>>list, and that others will hear of it. I'm also wondering where else I
>>might spread the word, so that I can reach more people who might
>>benefit. I thought about maybe creating a board topic on the zone BBS,
>>but I'm a little weary about that, simply because, well, not everyone
>>on that site is exactly trustworthy. Any thoughts would be
>>appreciated.
>>
>>On 2/19/13, Mauricio Almeida <mauriciopmalmeida at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > i'd simply go for blind social because it allows more things to be thrown
>> > into discussion and people won't go like hmmm i can't talk about this
>> > because it isn't in the name of the list.
>> >
>> > feel free to cc me on emails if you guys do take this off list.
>> >
>> > Mauricio
>> > On Feb 18, 2013, at 11:51 PM, "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Arielle,
>> >>
>> >> I'm not Desiree, but I personally like Blind-Social or Blind-Social-Talk.
>> >> Thoughts? Maybe at this point we should take this discussion off-list...
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>> >> Public Relations Committee
>> >> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>> >> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle
>> >> Silverman
>> >> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:47 PM
>> >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues with
>> >> other blind folks
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Desiree for taking charge! Blind-social, blind-social-talk or
>> >> blind-relationships all sound fine to  me.
>> >> Arielle
>> >>
>> >> On 2/18/13, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Ashley and Mauricio,
>> >>>
>> >>> I agree. We have to be careful here, as the list is publically
>> >>> archived and it could be considered an "official" list of the
>> >>> Federation; after all, it is the official list of NABS. Conversely,a
>> >>> list like the one Desiree and others are talking about would be a
>> >>> place where these topics can be discussed more freely.
>> >>>
>> >>> Chris
>> >>>
>> >>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>> >>> Public Relations Committee
>> >>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>> >>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mauricio
>> >>> Almeida
>> >>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:17 PM
>> >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues
>> >>> with other blind folks
>> >>>
>> >>> well said.
>> >>> noone is putting anyone down here.
>> >>> go for the list:)
>> >>> On Feb 18, 2013, at 11:13 PM, Ashley Bramlett
>> >>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Carley,
>> >>>> We were not putting him down. We were  just saying that another list
>> >>> devoted to only social issues is better.
>> >>>> David already spoke his mind and said we can sometimes discuss dating
>> >>>> on
>> >>> here, but it cannot get too far off track.
>> >>>> I say go for creating the list and we can have more private
>> >>>> conversations
>> >>> there.
>> >>>> Ashley
>> >>>>
>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Carly Mihalakis
>> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:55 PM
>> >>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list ; National
>> >>>> Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues
>> >>>> with other blind folks
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hi, List,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Are we not ALL blind students? Isn't a potential YAHOO or other
>> >>>> social forum, positioned  for each and every one of our  enrichment?
>> >>>> Where is a sense of unity? Why are people being made to feel like
>> >>>> some pariah, with some kind of disease,  simply for being emotionally
>> >>>> unstable?  Indeed, People are well aware of how advice delivered via
>> >>>> an On-line support forum, may be subject to thinking twice. I'm
>> >>>> convinced of people's  being well aware of this.  We are talking
>> >>>> about emotional crises, people!
>> >>>> Is not investing too much in any of the Internet's resources not a
>> >>>> given, anyway?
>> >>>> Car, but
>> >>>>> I think the list should be for support, not primarily for therapy.
>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Desiree Oudinot
>> >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 6:11 PM
>> >>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues
>> >>>>> with other blind folks
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>> Since I was the person who  initially raised this suggestion, I
>> >>>>> guess I'd better speak up.
>> >>>>> While I do think this is a great idea, and would like to see it
>> >>>>> happen, I'm not sure I'm the right person to even suggest it. Pardon
>> >>>>> the pun, but I'm not so sure having the blind lead the blind is such
>> >>>>> a good idea. To cut to the point, I'm not sure if it would be right
>> >>>>> of me to moderate such a list when I know I would use it to air out
>> >>>>> some of my own problems. I'm also not a psychologist, social worker
>> >>>>> or any other mental health worker. I only bring this up because I'm
>> >>>>> not sure how formal this group would have to be, and I don't want
>> >>>>> any
>> >>> trouble.
>> >>>>> My only other hang-up is that I'm not very good at thinking up
>> >>>>> clever names, and I'm drawing a blank as to what this hypothetical
>> >>>>> list should be called. I'm sure others may have some suggestions,
>> >>>>> though, so that's just a minor inconvenience.
>> >>>>> So, what do you all think? Would you want the list to be moderated
>> >>>>> and ran by a trained mental health worker? Would you feel
>> >>>>> uncomfortable with a moderator who used the list for its intended
>> >>>>> purpose, rather than just sitting in the background and dealing with
>> >>>>> problems, both tech-related and within the list's members? Let me
>> >>>>> know, and I'll think about it some more.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 2/18/13, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>> I can moderate, but would prefer someone who is more tech-savvy
>> >>>>>> than I to actually set up the list initially.
>> >>>>>> Arielle
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 2/18/13, Loren Wakefield <theweird1 at centurylink.net> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> It would be a great idea.  I don't know how those groups work.
>> >>>>>>> But I suppose one could find out.  However, I am not sure that I
>> >>>>>>> would have the time to be its moderator.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly
>> >>>>>>> Mihalakis
>> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:40 PM
>> >>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list;
>> >>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Forum for discussing social/emotional issues
>> >>>>>>> with other blind folks
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Great idea! Unfortunately, i am not qualified to set up, or
>> >>>>>>> moderate the thing, although it is a great idea.At 01:31 PM
>> >>>>>>> 2/18/2013, Arielle Silverman
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>>>>> A while back some of us talked about creating a list on
>> >>>>>>>> YahooGroups or GoogleGroups where blind students and mentors
>> >>>>>>>> could talk about sexuality and social issues. I am wondering if
>> >>>>>>>> we should go ahead and create this list to be a separate place
>> >>>>>>>> from NABS-L and one where the topic is a bit more relaxed so that
>> >>>>>>>> people could post about relationship issues, family difficulties
>> >>>>>>>> etc. If the list is hosted on YahooGroups, the archives will be
>> >>>>>>>> private so no one who is not subscribed will be able to read the
>> >>>>>>>> content of the list (and GoogleGroups might be that way too; I'd
>> >>>>>>>> have
>> >>> to check).
>> >>>>>>>> The NFB lists tend to be a little strict about topic since they
>> >>>>>>>> are publicly archived and since they are intended to be about a
>> >>>>>>>> very specific topic. However that doesn't mean we can't create a
>> >>>>>>>> separate list that is more of a support group rather than a place
>> >>>>>>>> to obtain information.
>> >>>>>>>> Does someone want to go ahead and do this?
>> >>>>>>>> Arielle
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