[nabs-l] Question about Resumes

Fri Feb 22 19:37:00 UTC 2013

Hi all,

I like the idea of a "relevant Coursework" heading and using
semicolons to separate your points.  That sounds like it should work
better for you.  Like I said though, there are tons of different ways
to format a resume, so play around with it and see what works.

HTH.

On 2/21/13, Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com> wrote:
> I would go with something more like your second option, although often those
> lists are separated with a ; instead of periods.
>
> Your post also made me think of an important part of the resume that I left
> off in my previous message.  A heading labelled Skills can be an excellent
> way to include other things that might not fit into categories like work and
> education.  You could call it relevant skills, skills, or relevant
> coursework like you did.
>
> -Greg
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Greg Wocher <icewolf2011 at gtwebdesign.us>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> When putting in the info under the headings should you put it in a list
>> like:
>> Relevant Course Work:
>> Business Communication
>> C# Programming
>> Object oriented programming
>> Or would it be better like this:
>> Relevant Course Work:
>> Business communication.  Professional Writing.  C# Programming.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Greg Wocher
>>
>> Twitter name GWocher
>>
>> On 2/21/2013 5:01 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
>>> Hi Greg and all,
>>> Kaiti had some great advice.  I would like to add a bit of a different
>>> perspective.
>>>
>>> I respectfully disagree on the point of keeping the resume to one page.
>>> Everything I have read and heard from professionals is that less is more
>>> when it comes to resumes.  Potential employers want to find the relevant
>>> info they are looking for quickly and easily.  Everything I have found
>>> indicates that unless you are a long term professional with several jobs
>>> under your belt, you need to keep the resume to one page.  This can be a
>>> challenge but it is very doable.
>>>
>>> This means that you cut out everything that isn't absolutely necessary.
>>> In my opinion, the absolutely necessary info you must include are your
>>> contact info, your education, work/volunteer/professional experiences,
>>> and any professional memberships.  After that, if you have room you can
>>> go into honors and awards.  To save you the space from creating separate
>>> headings, you can combine work and volunteer experiences into one heading
>>> called "Experience."
>>>
>>> Some people like to include an objective on the resume but it seems like
>>> a waste of space to me.  It is often a vague statement that lacks meaning
>>> and you will cover this in your cover letter anyway.  Things like
>>> personality traits belong in the cover letter as well.
>>>
>>> I would also leave your references off of the resume.  If your employer
>>> wants them, you can submit a separate reference sheet.  This gives you
>>> more space on the actual resume.
>>>
>>> I like Kaiti's suggestions on how to format your headings/text.  The goal
>>> is clear and concise.  Keep it simple and clear.  Have a few
>>> friends/mentors look it over when you're done.  Ask them to help you
>>> eliminate any fluff you can get rid of.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.  Best of luck with your position.
>>>
>>> -Greg
>>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Greg,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the blank post earlier; my internet went out when I hit send
>>>> and the information didn't go through.  Hopefully what I was going to
>>>> say will go through this time.
>>>>
>>>> There are many different ways to format a resume, but I can tell you
>>>> how I have been taught to do it.  If anyone else has suggestions which
>>>> sound like they'll work better feel free to pacemail them together to
>>>> get the best possible resume.  I'll show you how I've done it as well
>>>> as provide examples.
>>>>
>>>> First, start by putting your name at the top of the page.  Make the
>>>> font bold and centered.  You can also make it larger by a few font
>>>> sizes, but I'd say no more than 18 point.  I like to keep mine between
>>>> 14 and 18 depending on how much information I have to put into the
>>>> resume.  Below that, type some contact information.  The font for this
>>>> should be shrunken back to 12 point, unbolded, and kept centered.
>>>> Something like this would work, "Phone: (123)456-7890.  New line,
>>>> Email: joe.schmow at gmail.com," should work.
>>>>
>>>> Next, type the following headings left side justified and in bold 12
>>>> point font.  There is some flexibility in this, but here is what I've
>>>> used; Objective, Education, (optional, Personal Qualities),
>>>> Activities, Work Experience, Volunteer Experience, Awards and Honors,
>>>> and Recommendations/References.  These headings give you the skeleton
>>>> for your resume.  If you don't have anything to put in any of these
>>>> sections delete the heading and ignore it.
>>>>
>>>> When you write the information under these headings, it is important
>>>> to note that you do not write in complete, gramatically correct
>>>> sentence.  By that I mean you should still check spelling and such,
>>>> but these sentences will not follow the traditional form.  Most will
>>>> be in past tense without a subject because they're all referring to
>>>> you in the first place.  All font under these headings should also be
>>>> left side justified and unbolded, 12 point.  Be sure to leave a blank
>>>> line between each section.
>>>>
>>>> Objective:  For this heading you write the position you're going for.
>>>> Example, "To obtain a position as CEO of Joe Schmow Inc," or, "To
>>>> obtain a position as a McDonalds manager."
>>>>
>>>> Under education you'll put the schools you've attended, their
>>>> addresses, and when your degree was received.  If you haven't received
>>>> your degree yet say degree expected and give the date.  Put the most
>>>> recent school or the one you're attending now first.  Example:
>>>> Education:
>>>> The University of Dayton.
>>>> 300 College Park. Dayton Oh. 45469.
>>>> Degree Expected: May 2016.
>>>> Colerain High School.
>>>> 8801 Cheviot Rd. Cincinnati Oh. 45251.
>>>>
>>>> Next, if you like you can put a personal qualities section if you wish
>>>> to mention that you have a "strong work ethic," "good communication
>>>> skills," or "detail-oriented and thurrough with work."  List whatever
>>>> qualities you like in a similar manner.
>>>>
>>>> For the activities section list things you were involved in outside of
>>>> school or work.  Mention them in most recent to least recent order and
>>>> include dates.  Be sure to mention things such as if you held an
>>>> officer position in a club or organization.
>>>>
>>>> Work Experience: For work experience list your most recent job first
>>>> and work backwards from there.  List the dates you held the job, then
>>>> write what your responsibilities were using a past-tense style.  If
>>>> you are still currently employed in the first job you list just say
>>>> something like "May 2012-present."  Example:
>>>> Work Experience:
>>>> Joe Schmow Inc.  May 2012-Jan 2013.
>>>> Assisted customers with... contributed to... recorded... etc.
>>>>
>>>> Volunteer Experience is formatted the same way.  The thing you've
>>>> volunteered for most recently goes first and you follow that same
>>>> format.
>>>> Volunteer Experience:
>>>> Volunteered at St. Vincent De Paul.  Feb 2013.
>>>> Assisted with... duties included... etc.
>>>>
>>>> Awards and Honors is more like the activities heading in formatting.
>>>> List the thing you've achieved most recently and work backwards.
>>>> Remember that these are not just awards, but can also include
>>>> memberships in prestigious groups or organizations which didn't quite
>>>> fit into the activities section.  Fake example:
>>>> Awards and Honors:
>>>> Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.  Jan 2013.
>>>> Elected to the Ohio House of Representatives.  Nov 2012.
>>>> Inducted into the ... hall of fame.  Jul 2011.
>>>> Nominated for a Grammy award.  Apr 2009.
>>>> Accepted as a member of Mensa.  Jan 2007.
>>>>
>>>> Last you have Recommendations or References, you can choose either
>>>> title.  This is a list of people, usually no more than 2 or 3, who
>>>> would be willing to recommend you to the potential employer.  These
>>>> people should not be family.  Example:
>>>> References:
>>>> Kaiti Shelton
>>>> Former Colleague at Joe Schmow Inc.
>>>> Phone: (123)456-7890.
>>>> Email: kaiti at email.com.
>>>> It helps to list these references in order of who has known you
>>>> longest or who would give you the best review.  If you don't want or
>>>> need to list someone's contact information you could also do this:
>>>> References:
>>>> Available upon request.
>>>>
>>>> Tip: Don't worry about keeping the resume at a page minimum.  That's
>>>> something they always told me in high school but in reality employers
>>>> would rather read one and a half pages of good information than a one
>>>> page resume with some important details removed for space.  If you
>>>> pack your resume with the right stuff and it goes over a little it's
>>>> not a big deal.
>>>>
>>>> This should give you a solid resume.  Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/21/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2/21/13, Greg Wocher <icewolf2011 at gtwebdesign.us> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> I am an Computer Information Systems major with a specialization in
>>>>>> web
>>>>>> development and administration.  I have the opportunity to apply for
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> job for the college I attend, DeVry University Online, as a website
>>>>>> accessibility specialist.  I was wondering if anyone had any tips on
>>>>>> creating a resume or could point me in the right direction for some
>>>>>> online tips?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Greg Wocher
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Twitter name GWocher
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>> Kaiti
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Kaiti
>>>>
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