[nabs-l] unaccommodating professors

Sat Jan 12 16:41:48 UTC 2013

Ashley,=20if=20you=20have=20a=20braillenote=20apex=20with=20Keysoft=209.1=20=
or=20
higher,=20it=20can=20read=20PDFs.=20So=20you=20can=20save=20the=20PDF=20to=
=20a=20flash=20
drive=20and=20read=20it=20on=20your=20braillenote!

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Ashley=20Bramlett"=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Sat,=2012=20Jan=202013=2001:20:20=20-0500
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20unaccommodating=20professors

well,=20I've=20tried=20that=20in=20other=20classes.=20I'm=20not=20dumb.
The=20computer=20either=20froze=20or=20the=20pdf=20would=20not=20allow=20me=
=20to=20save=20
it=20as=20text.
I=20think=20the=20publisher=20protected=20it=20somehow=20so=20you=20cannot=
=20change=20
it.

Also,=20as=20I've=20said=20before,=20the=20disability=20office=20has=20not=
=20and=20
never=20=20will
give=20me=20a=20doc=20file.
Of=20course=20I=20asked=20for=20this.=20I=20wanted=20to=20put=20the=20doc=20=
file=20on=20a=20
flash=20drive=20to
read=20on=20my=20braillenote=20=20in=20class.
They=20always=20tell=20me=20the=20publisher=20only=20can=20send=20pdfs;=20t=
hey=20have=20
not=20invested
the=20time=20to=20attempt=20to=20convert=20it=20themselves.=20Also,=20they=
=20could=20
fight=20with
the=20publisher=20if=20they=20wanted=20to=20for=20a=20more=20accessible=20f=
ormat=20such=20
as=20rtf=20or
doc=20files.
But=20they=20don't.

This=20community=20college=20does=20not=20go=20out=20of=20its=20way=20to=20=
help=20and=20
accommodate
students.
I=20often=20work=20out=20issues=20myself=20with=20professors=20and=20order=
=20my=20own=20
books.=20I=20try
and=20leave=20dss=20out=20of=20it.=20but=20when=20the=20professor=20wants=20=
you=20to=20take=20
another
class=20and=20goes=20to=20your=20dss=20counselor=20without=20your=20=20know=
ledge,=20
there=20is
nothing=20you=20can=20do.
If=20he=20were=20going=20to=20work=20with=20me=20he=20would=20not=20have=20=
stepped=20behind=20
me.=20The
only=20reason
I=20know=20he=20went=20to=20dss=20was=20since=20the=20dss=20counselor=20cal=
led=20me=20and=20
stated=20she
spoke=20to=20him=20and=20wanted=20to=20discuss=20with=20me.

I=20don't=20know=20what=20so=20called=20accomodations=20she=20was=20going=20=
to=20
discuss=20and=20I
never=20will=20know.=20We=20are=20not!=20discussing=20this=20bad=20situatio=
n.=20I=20
should=20find=20an
instructor=20willing=20to=20work=20with=20me.=20I
have=20never=20found=20this=20counselor=20helpful=20and=20I'm=20not=20talki=
ng=20to=20
her.=20I=20think
all=20she'll=20say=20is=20the=20challenges=20involved=20and=20when=20I=20as=
k=20for=20
videos=20to=20be
described=20by=20the=20professor=20or=20someone,=20she'll=20say=20the=20col=
lege=20
isn't=20required
to=20do=20it.=20I've=20asked=20for=20a=20braille=20test=20before,=20and=20s=
he=20told=20me=20
they=20don't
have=20to=20provide=20my=20prefered=20format;=20I=20had=20to=20take=20i=20t=
=20auditorily.

Given=20her=20relunctance=20to=20do=20much=20but=20the=20bare=20minimum=20o=
f=20things,=20
I=20think
discussing=20it=20is=20fruitless=20and=20I'll=20simply=20look=20for=20other=
=20options=20
and=20email
her=20that.

It=E2=80=99s=20a=20bad=20situation.=20Its=20shaken=20my=20trust=20somewhat.=
=20When=20you=20
email
professors=20it=20should=20remain=20between=20you=20and=20them=20period.
I=20expect=20to=20keep=20conversations=20between=20us=20since=20=20all=20ot=
her=20
students=20have
this=20right.
No=20third=20party=20should=20be=20involved=20without=20your=20consent=20or=
=20
knowledge.=20I=20am
tempted=20to=20place=20in=20subsequent=20corespondence=20when=20I=20inquire=
=20about=20
classes,
that=20this=20communication=20is=20confidential.=20Heck,=20if=20anyone=20do=
es=20
this=20again,=20I
will=20do=20that.

Then,=20if=20they=20violate=20my=20right=20to=20privacy=20and=20confidentia=
lity,=20I=20
have
written=20proof=20of=20it.

Anyway,=20I'll=20see=20what=20happens=20next=20week=20when=20I=20go=20to=20=
class.

Ashley
-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Brandon=20Keith=20Biggs
Sent:=20Saturday,=20January=2012,=202013=201:01=20AM
To:=20Misty=20Dawn=20Bradley=20;=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20St=
udents=20
mailing=20list
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20unaccommodating=20professors

Hello,
There=20is=20a=20pretty=20simple=20way=20of=20converting=20PDF=20to=20TXT:
when=20you=20open=20the=20PDF=20go=20to
"save=20as=20other"
hit=20text
Enter=20the=20name=20and=20location=20and=20there=20you=20go.
Also,=20ask=20the=20disability=20center=20for=20a=20.doc=20and=20they=20sho=
uld=20be=20
accommodating,
I've=20never=20heard=20of=20one=20that=20wasn't=20for=20that.
There=20are=20a=20million=20other=20ways=20to=20get=20a=20PDF=20to=20TXT,=20=
but=20that=20is=20
first.
Thanks,

Brandon=20Keith=20Biggs
-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Misty=20Dawn=20Bradley
Sent:=20Friday,=20January=2011,=202013=209:45=20PM
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20unaccommodating=20professors

Hi,
If=20you=20are=20able=20to=20get=20the=20book=20from=20Learning=20Ally,=20t=
he=20books=20are=20
set=20up=20to
where=20you=20can=20set=20them=20to=20go=20page=20by=20page,=20by=20chapter=
,=20by=20
heading,=20or=20by
sentence,=20so=20this=20may=20help=20with=20at=20least=20finding=20the=20pa=
ge=20number,=20
and=20then
if=20you=20go=20by=20sentence=20or=20if=20there=20is=20a=20paragraph=20sett=
ing=20then=20you=20
may=20be
able=20to=20find=20the=20paragraph=20easier.
Hth,
Misty

-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"Ashley=20Bramlett"=20<bookwormahb at earthlink.net
To:=20"National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent:=20Saturday,=20January=2012,=202013=2012:34=20AM
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20unaccommodating=20professors

=20Brandon,
=20Yes=20professors=20are=20set=20inttheir=20ways.=20This=20is=20one=20of=20=
them.=20
Students=20in
=20that=20class=20have=20to=20for=20instance,=20see=20paragraph=202=20on=20=
page=2014.
=20I=20usually=20use=20audio=20formats=20so=20cannot=20use=20text=20to=20se=
arch.
=20I=20have=20tried=20to=20get=20the=20electronic=20copy,=20but=20as=20I=20=
said=20before,=20
they=20give
=20me=20pdfs=20which=20jaws=20has=20trouble=20reading.
=20Even=20if=20jaws=20reads=20it,=20I=20don't=20have=20page=20numbers=20sin=
ce=20the=20book=20
is=20broken
=20down=20by=20chapters=20or=20parts.
=20Each=20part=20or=20chapter=20is=20a=20large=20file.
=20So=20its=20impossible=20to=20look=20at=20a=20book=20as=20others=20do.

=20I'm=20glad=20it=20worked=20for=20you,=20but=20I=20know=20with=20videos=20=
coupled=20with=20
the
=20reliance=20of=20books,=20it=20is=20a=20tough=20teaching=20style=20to=20f=
ollow.

=20I=20just=20hate=20when=20professors=20are=20not=20willing=20to=20talk=20=
to=20you=20and=20
go=20to=20the
=20dss=20office.

=20Ashley

=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20Brandon=20Keith=20Biggs
=20Sent:=20Saturday,=20January=2012,=202013=2012:17=20AM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20unaccommodating=20professors

=20Hello,
=20I=20had=20a=20superstar=20professor=20who=20did=20this.=20He=20was=20an=
=20older=20guy=20
and=20he=20was
=20very=20set=20in=20his=20ways.=20He=20had=20about=202000=20students=20on=
=20his=20Corse=20
load=20and=20he
=20was=20also=20an=20international=20star.=20He=20said=20I=20would=20probab=
ly=20fail=20
his=20class
=20because=20he=20used=20lots=20of=20pictures=20and=20he=20wrote=20lots=20o=
n=20the=20board.=20
He=20also
=20said=20that=20I=20would=20not=20benefit=20from=20the=20top=20notch=20pic=
tures=20he=20
both
=20presented
=20in=20front=20of=20the=20class=20and=20had=20in=20the=20textbook=20he=20w=
rote.=20He=20told=20
my
=20Disability=20counselor=20he=20was=20not=20sure=20how=20I=20would=20deal=
=20with=20the=20
pop
=20quizzes.
=20On=20top=20of=20that,=20I=20was=20an=20honors=20student=20who=20had=20a=
=20steeper=20
grading=20scale
=20than
=20the=20normal=20students.
=20I=20told=20him=20not=20to=20worry,=20if=20he=20was=20willing=20to=20list=
en=20to=20me,=20we=20
could=20work
=20something=20out.=20I=20took=20the=20head=20of=20the=20Accessibility=20de=
partment=20
to=20one=20of
=20his
=20office=20hours=20and=20we=20hammered=20him=20with=20every=20problem=20a=
=20week=20after=20
class
=20started=20and=20we=20gave=20solutions.=20We=20also=20presented=20alterna=
tives=20
for=20him=20to
=20choose=20from.=20He=20then=20gave=20us=20his=20opinions=20and=20what=20h=
e=20was=20
willing=20to=20do.
=20I=20talked=20to=20the=20professor=20every=20week=20and=20just=20made=20s=
ure=20things=20
were=20going
=20well=20on=20his=20part.=20I=20ended=20up=20getting=20an=20easy=20A=20in=
=20that=20class=20and=20
that=20was
=20one=20of=20my=20favorite=20classes=20I=20have=20ever=20taken.
=20May=20I=20ask=20why=20you=20can't=20read=20paragraphs=20other=20students=
=20are=20
reading?=20I=20just
=20do=20a=20search=20for=20words=20in=20my=20word=20document.
=20Teacher=20tells=20us=20to=20look=20at=20page=2045,=20paragraph=207=20tha=
t=20starts=20"He=20
looked=20to
=20where=20her=20boots=20lay=20in=20the=20mud..."
=20I=20search=20for=20that=20and=20it=20only=20takes=20a=20second=20to=20se=
arch=20through=20
the=20whole
=20book.
=20Thanks,
=20Brandon=20Keith=20Biggs

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