[nabs-l] My Spanish Lab

Sat Jan 12 04:27:15 UTC 2013

WE need to educate the public.  I personally hate educating 
anyone, hence my choice to see which people are more open and 
which people are not.  I have experience trying to educate the 
general public.  Legislature politicians are the worst, of 
course, except some in Colorado.  Very few politicians undestan 
our nees in uuniversity systems.  To avoid the famous Florida 
lawsuit, I think professors, another group of people who aren't 
well educated despite their credentials, need to know these 
things before blind people pop up in their classes.  And the 
blind neeed to be a little more vocal so that we can avoid 
lawsuits period.
Beth

 ----- Original Message -----
From: christopher nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
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Date sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 17:35:10 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] My Spanish Lab

Beth,

I agree with you, but the problem is college professors don't 
know
that these programs are inaccessible to the blind, nor do the
developers themselves. That's why a great deal of our advocacy 
work is
in educating the public.

Chris Nusbaum

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 11, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Beth Taurasi 
<denverqueen1107 at comcast.net> wrote:

 It's the same with SmartMusic and other lab stuff.  MyLabSchool 
might be inaccessible.  Don't college profs know that such labs 
are bad for blind people?  Certain forms of math lab softwadre 
are inaccessible, which led to a famous lawsuit in Florida.  Two 
of my friend were victims of unsympathetic, and yes, unempathetic 
college professors.  They ended up suing the college and winnning 
the suit.  They settled major.  If the inaccessible ssoftware is 
part of the grade, and if the professor does not show empathy and 
sympathy towards your situation, remind the professor that you 
are blind, for one, and for another, inaccessible software is 
against the law.  I don't mean to be harsh, but I believe 
inversities need to start finding accessible ways to do homework 
for the students.  Ever thought Spanish was an audible thing 
first?  We all pick up language orally, not visually.
 Beth

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
 To: Misty Dawn Bradley <MistyDBradley at gmail.com>, National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:15:30 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] My Spanish Lab

 Hi Misty,

 I am pretty sure I used it a few years ago.  If it's the same 
spanish
 lab your professor wants to use, (I know we used the same 
publisher at
 least if not the same textbook), then it's pretty darn 
inaccessible,
 as you've found out.  My braillist ended up brailling the 
on-line
 readings and practice quizzes and stuff for me and I would have 
to
 email my teacher my answers instead of doing it online.  Perhaps 
your
 professor will let your ds office have access to an account or 
they
 can request access from the publisher so they can put the 
material in
 an alternate format.

 Hope this helps,

 On 1/11/13, Misty Dawn Bradley <mistydbradley at gmail.com> wrote:
 Hi all,
 Has anyone used My Spanish Lab for any of their Spanish courses? 
My
 instructor this semester is using it and counting it as 30 
percent of our
 final grade, and it seems to be rather inaccessible. Has anyone 
had any
 experiences of how to get around the inaccessability? I am using 
Jaws 10 on
 my XP computer and Jaws 12 on my Windows 7 computer, and Jaws 
will not read
 the Etext or any of the assignments. Are there any other screen 
readers that
 work better with the Pearson labs? If it is completely 
inaccessible using
 any kind of screen reader, what have you all done in the past to 
complete
 your assignments in this type of lab?
 Thank you,
 Misty
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