[nabs-l] I devices accessibility

Mon Jan 28 07:42:51 UTC 2013

Hi all
Very interesting thread this. Here are my opinions on Apple stuff. I
know some of what I'm going to write might not be the most popular or
best ways, but it is just what I've found most comfortable, and I'd
please like to know your opinions, whether I'm just this odd person
with these ideas or whether some people agree with me on some of
these. Many of my points might not be too correct, as I'm basically
trying to learn my IPhone in bits and pieces when I'm not studying,
and, since I don't really have much expert sighted tech help available
I'm trying to work much out myself.
For the first few days the touch screen did take a bit of time getting
used to, but I actually enjoy using it and I think its a great way to
use products. Don't worry Ashley, you'll find that the longer you use
it, the more you'lll start using your memory to have an approximate
idea where things are on the screen so you'll be using it much faster
later on.
It's interesting that as far as I can see most blind people prefer the
other typing method. Am I the only one who actually rather loves using
the default?
For music, if I had to use an apple product I'd use the IPod shuffle,
but to be honest I rather carry around a stand-alone mp3 player that
doesn't use touch screen and you can just copy music to. The other
reason is I actually really hate ITunes, and I know this is just me. I
know there are jaws scripts available, but I just get so frustrated
and can't stand Itunes. I've often wondered why, and I've thought of
some reasons:
1. My laptop is not such a new model, about 4 years old, maybe ITunes
is just slow and frustrating to work with on it?
2. Here in South Africa, up until a few months ago we could actually
not purchase music from the store, only apps, and because I always
used media player and other players to manage music I just prefer to
do that and can't bring myself to use ITunes, because I do think that
it is easier with jaws to manage your music with windows media player
instead?
 Another thing I'd like to know what you guys think of, is that for me
it looks as if it is easier and faster to use your notetaker's
calendar and diary instead of the IPhone, I prefer using the one on my
laptop. Before I got my IPhone, I used a Nokia with a keyboard, and I
just find that there are things I could do on it much faster than I
can with the IPhone, such as entering contacts, finding contacts and
again the calendar.
I am very interested to know more about the accessibility of Pages, as
I am looking for a word processor to use on the IPhone. I never bought
pages because I once read somewhere a blind person saying that it was
usable, but also not really. He said VO didn't work well especially
when you were trying to use longer documents and that you also
couldn't format text, and if you wanted to manage files, it was
possible but it took so long that it wasn't worth it?
Ari
On 1/28/13, Lavonya Gardner <hotdancer1416 at gmail.com> wrote:
> pages not only can do that, but can also give u formatts to do whatever u
> might have to write.
>
> NOTHING ABOUT US, WITHOUT US. AUTISTICS RULE
>
> On Jan 27, 2013, at 22:04, "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Chris,
>> Ah I see. A simple word processor. Can pages do editing and advanced
>> things?
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Nusbaum
>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 9:49 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] I devices accessibility
>>
>> Ashley,
>>
>> Yes, the Notes app would be kind of like WordPad or Notepad. It's
>> used more for writing simple notes and documents such as notes for class,
>> but it can't do editing or formatting. You can also email a note you have
>> made in the Notes app.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
>> Bramlett
>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 6:06 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] I devices accessibility
>>
>> So what is notes and what does it do?
>> Chris, Maybe you  mean  that it
>> can do simple writing and editing but not advanced stuff? Kind of like
>> Microsoft's Word pad?
>> Word pad can do some writing features but not advanced things like
>> numbered
>> lists and I don't think it does bold items either.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: christopher nusbaum
>> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 4:52 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] I devices accessibility
>>
>> Well, the iPhone has notes built into it, but that's not really a word
>> processor, as it doesn't allow you to do any advanced editing.
>>
>> Chris Nusbaum
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ii use the touchscreen mostly. Siri has a hard time understanding me.
>>> Sometimes I connect my phone with my braillenote. It works as a
>>> display and a keyboard. The iPhone has no wordprocessor built in but u
>>> can get Pages.
>>>
>>> Sophie Trist
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 2013, at 3:10 PM, "Ashley Bramlett"
>>> <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Many of you have I devices you communicate with now; I've seen many
>>>> messages sent from i-phones, ipod touches and a few ipads.
>>>> I have an ipod  and am struggling with the touch screen and staying
>>>> oriented on it.
>>>>
>>>> My family and I were wondering how blind people most often interact
>>>> with their i-phone and I touch. I see many messages written from
>>>> these mobile devices, yet I know the touch screen keyboard is rather
>>>> small and even for sighted people it can be challenging to use.
>>>> So I was wondering about your experiences with these devices.
>>>>
>>>> Do you use the touch screen and voice over all the time? Do you use
>>>> siri to perform functions? Can siri activate your itunes collection?
>>>> I mean can you ask siri to play a certain song and it searches for it
>>>> and plays it?
>>>>
>>>> How do you type
>>>> regular messages and text messages? Do you use a braille display with
>>>> it and if so, which one? Can you type in braille and something
>>>> translates it and then sends it out on your i-device?
>>>> What computer functions do these devices have? Does it have a word
>>>> processor, presentation application and spreadsheet?
>>>> I know the Ipad has pages; not sure about the others.
>>>>
>>>> I know the Focus 14 display came out from freedom  scientific
>>>> recently and a few friends have that paired with their i-phones. I
>>>> also know the braille pen can be paired with it too.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, which aps are most helpful? Is the barcode reader one useful?
>>>> What does i t cost? What is the difference between Look around Me and
>>>> Navigan ap?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for letting me know.
>>>>
>>>> I'll write my ipod gesture questions next message.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
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