From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Mon Jul 1 00:28:23 2013 From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (christopher nusbaum) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 20:28:23 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Audio webcast of NFB convention? In-Reply-To: <118AB787E10348EF8D5B53EB98DFB3DF@OwnerPC> References: <51CECC06.2020405@gtwebdesign.us> <118AB787E10348EF8D5B53EB98DFB3DF@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <3704917312869160431@unknownmsgid> I don't think they are streaming that, but I know Nfb will. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jun 30, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote: > I hope serotek streams some at the beginning. The nfb streaming starts july 3 with the board of directors meeting. > I'll check out the link. > > -----Original Message----- From: Greg Wocher > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 7:59 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Audio webcast of NFB convention? > > Hello, > I know that the people over at SeroTek will be doing some live streaming > from the convention. You can read about it here: > www.serotalk.com > > Greg Wocher > > Follow me on Twitter @GWocher > > On 6/29/2013 3:33 AM, Phil wrote: >> Hey guys, >> >> Do you know if the convention will be webcast live? I can't seem to >> see it mentioned on the convention website. If you know the webpage >> that has information a bout this, please kindly point me to it. >> Thanks!! >> >> Phil >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://host.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://host.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/icewolf2011%40gtwebdesign.us > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://host.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://host.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://host.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://host.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com From weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com Mon Jul 1 12:58:31 2013 From: weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com (The weird writer) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 07:58:31 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] making a case against netflix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51D17CF7.1050002@gmail.com> Hi all, I'm actually writing to you because I'm trying to gather accessibility documentation for Netflix because we’re going to make an accessibility case in court, involving all platforms of accessibility and the lack of it on their website and their services as well. If you could email me and CC the email bhachey at verizon.net about any accessibility problem you’re having with Netflix that would be realty appreciated. Perhaps we can finally start making some good changes in the area of Netflix. Thank you. /*See below for resume, writing links, social media links, and other writing archives */ *Click here to view my resume* * * *Click here to see my writing archive * *Click here to view my website/ / * */ /* */writer for Chicago Theater Beat/ * *Tel: 850 764 2161 * Facebook Twitter LinkedIn YouTube WordPress My latest comedy review: Josh Blue: Putting the Cerebral in Cerebral Palsy My latest Audio Description review: Audio Description review: How Long Will I Cry? (play) WordPress My latest post in my blog:Blind Journalist Robert Kingett in disability anthology. Read more | My blog Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Get this email app! Designed with WiseStamp - Get yours From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Mon Jul 1 15:40:23 2013 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 11:40:23 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] making a case against netflix In-Reply-To: <51D17CF7.1050002@gmail.com> References: <51D17CF7.1050002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <001701ce7671$6ab630b0$40229210$@gmail.com> I've never used them; but what is the web sight? What do I have to do to test it? -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The weird writer Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 8:59 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] making a case against netflix Hi all, I'm actually writing to you because I'm trying to gather accessibility documentation for Netflix because we’re going to make an accessibility case in court, involving all platforms of accessibility and the lack of it on their website and their services as well. If you could email me and CC the email bhachey at verizon.net about any accessibility problem you’re having with Netflix that would be realty appreciated. Perhaps we can finally start making some good changes in the area of Netflix. Thank you. /*See below for resume, writing links, social media links, and other writing archives */ *Click here to view my resume* * * *Click here to see my writing archive * *Click here to view my website/ / * */ /* */writer for Chicago Theater Beat/ * *Tel: 850 764 2161 * Facebook Twitter LinkedIn YouTube WordPress My latest comedy review: Josh Blue: Putting the Cerebral in Cerebral Palsy My latest Audio Description review: Audio Description review: How Long Will I Cry? (play) WordPress My latest post in my blog:Blind Journalist Robert Kingett in disability anthology. Read more | My blog Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Get this email app! Designed with WiseStamp - Get yours _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://host.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://host.nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail.com From zdreicer at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 00:56:55 2013 From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 18:56:55 -0600 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [Blindmath] Orion TI-84 Talking Graphing Calculator at NFB Convention. References: <004401ce76a1$b9336b10$2b9a4130$@blinksoft.com> Message-ID: Sent from my iPhone 4S using VoiceOver Begin forwarded message: > From: "Ken Perry" > Date: July 1, 2013, 3:26:47 PM MDT > To: "Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics" > Subject: [Blindmath] Orion TI-84 Talking Graphing Calculator at NFB Convention. > Reply-To: Blind Math list for those interested in mathematics > > > > I want to invite everyone who is at the NFB convention to come by the > Hospitality Suite 244, Thursday, July 4, from 6:00 to 10:00 pm at the Rosen > Centre Hotel. We will have several Orion TI-84 Plus Talking Graphing > Calculators available. Come by and get hands on time with the newest > calculator from the American Printing House and Orbit Research. We will > also have a tactile printer to demonstrate printing a graph from the Orion > TI-84 Plus. Come on by and join in the fun. > > > > Ken Perry /APH > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blindmath mailing list > Blindmath at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blindmath_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for Blindmath: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/blindmath_nfbnet.org/zdreicer%40gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Tue Jul 2 02:15:21 2013 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 21:15:21 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Orion TI-84 Talking Graphing Calculator at NFB Convention. Message-ID: > > > >I want to invite everyone who is at the NFB convention to come by the >Hospitality Suite 244, Thursday, July 4, from 6:00 to 10:00 pm at the Rosen >Centre Hotel. We will have several Orion TI-84 Plus Talking Graphing >Calculators available. Come by and get hands on time with the newest >calculator from the American Printing House and Orbit Research. We will >also have a tactile printer to demonstrate printing a graph from the Orion >TI-84 Plus. Come on by and join in the fun. > > > >Ken Perry /APH > > From dandrews at visi.com Tue Jul 2 02:19:56 2013 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 21:19:56 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] making a case against netflix In-Reply-To: <001701ce7671$6ab630b0$40229210$@gmail.com> References: <51D17CF7.1050002@gmail.com> <001701ce7671$6ab630b0$40229210$@gmail.com> Message-ID: It is: http://www.netflix.com Dave >I've never used them; but what is the web >sight? What do I have to do to test it? >-----Original Message----- From: nabs-l >[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of >The weird writer Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 >8:59 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] >making a case against netflix Hi all, I'm >actually writing to you because I'm trying to >gather accessibility documentation for Netflix >because weâre going to make an accessibility >case in court, involving all platforms of >accessibility and the lack of it on their >website and their services as well. If you could >email me and CC the email bhachey at verizon.net > about any >accessibility problem youâre having with >Netflix that would be realty appreciated. >Perhaps we can finally start making some good >changes in the area of Netflix. Thank you. /*See >below for resume, writing links, social media >links, and other writing archives */ *Click here >to view my resume* > >* >* >*Click here to see my writing archive > Hi everyone, there will be a Young Professionals group brainstorming meeting in Room 1456 (executive suite) on Thursday, July 4th at 12:45PM. Feel free to bring your own lunch! I have a refrigerator and a microwave as well. In the field of observation, chance favors only the prepared mind. ~Louis Pasteur, lecture 1854 From weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 15:02:49 2013 From: weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com (The weird writer) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 10:02:49 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] netflix In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51D2EB99.6050800@gmail.com> the website is www.netflix.com From chris.richard.heckel at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 18:27:14 2013 From: chris.richard.heckel at gmail.com (Chris Heckel) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 11:27:14 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Chris Heckel Message-ID: Hi My name is Chris Heckel. I’m a student of Dr. Paul Gabias, a leader in the National Federation of the Blind who lives in Canada, and works as a professor of psychology at the University of British Columbia in Kelowna BC. I have taken two of his courses, the Psychology of Touch I and the Psychology of Touch II. In the Psychology of Touch II course, I Learned about the research to date on how blind and sighted people take lines and patterns of lines to represent objects, layouts of objects and events. During one class, I had the opportunity to meet Dr. John Kennedy, the pioneer in the field of haptic pictures of and for the blind. My respect for Dr. Kennedy and Dr. Gabias, among other things, led me to pursue this line of investigation. I am fascinated by the similarities and possible differences with respect to how blind and sighted people deal with representational systems for depicting objects, scenes and events. I’m interested in drawings, because that’s what I’ve studied so far. Dr. Gabias and I will be meeting with Dr. Al Maneki and his team at E.A.S.Y. LLC. They have the beginnings of an entire line of products that allow for the creation, editing, digital transmission and reproduction of raised line drawings. In a draft article that Dr. Maneki has sent to Dr. Gabias, entitled: *The Dawn of the Age of Tactile Fluency:* *Let the Revolution Begin!* Dr. Maneki wrote: “Up to now, parents of every blind child have inevitably run up against this vexing problem: “My blind child will be taking Geometry next year. Now, what do we do with all of those drawings?”” Indeed, what do we do with “all of those drawings”? And further, what meanings can lines and patterns of lines take on, in “all of those drawings”? That’s the question that I would like to explore in my studies with Dr. Gabias So, Dr. Gabias suggested that I become familiar with the National Federation of the Blind, its people, its philosophy of blindness and its structure. That’s what I’m coming to the convention to do. I anticipate that this convention will only be my first, in a long line of future conventions. I’m writing this article, simply to introduce myself to you, and to ask for your help. Because my explorations are very preliminary, I’m wanting to have conversations with people about all kinds of things, but particularly depiction. In the course of our conversations, I hope to be able to show you a few drawings and ask you for your impressions about them. I wanted you to know a little something about me, before the convention, should I get the opportunity to meet you. Please look me up if you are interested in meeting me. I’m staying at the Rosen Centre Hotel. I’ll be arriving on the 30th of June, at around 10 PM. You just have to look me up, by asking to be connected to my room by the hotel switch board. I’m looking forward to meeting you all, Best Regards Chris Heckel From dandrews at visi.com Tue Jul 2 21:16:27 2013 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:16:27 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: The Seeing Eye GPS app now for sale in the iTunes Apple Store Message-ID: > >The Seeing Eye GPS app now for sale in the iTunes Apple Store! > >July 2, 2013 > >Sendero is proud to release The Seeing Eye GPS >app for cell-enabled iOS devices after more than >a year of development. With nearly 100 beta >testers, we are confident that the app meets our >standards for a version 1 release. We thank >everyone for their help testing and users for their patience. > >Our goal with this app was to make it a >convenient mobile option to compliment other >Sendero GPS products. We believe we have >achieved that and we will begin working >immediately on version 1.1. As with other >Sendero products over the past 13 years, user >feedback will drive development of future >versions. We will be posting a list of what we >think are high priority features and would like >users to vote on these plus add other >suggestions. We will also work immediately on a >UK and European version of the app. > >We hope you enjoy The Seeing Eye GPS app and >that you join us in building the most powerful >accessible turn-by-turn GPS mobile app possible. >For more information about the app go to: >http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopseeingeyegps.htm. > > >The app is available in >iTunes, >it is free to download, but when you launch for >the first time you will be prompted to select a >subscription plan for either $69 for 1 year or $129 for 3 years. > >For support read the User Guide at >http://www.senderogroup.com/support/supportseeingeye.htm. >If you still have questions after reading the >manual email iphone at senderogroup.com. Please >allow at least 24 hours for a response to your inquiry. > From pgradioman at hotmail.com Tue Jul 2 21:17:06 2013 From: pgradioman at hotmail.com (Preston Gaylor) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 17:17:06 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Volunteer Opprotunities in the York/Harrisburg/Lancaster, PA Area Message-ID: Hi All: For those that are on this list and are from the York/Harrisburg/Lancaster, PA area like myself, I was just curious if you know of any volunteer opprotunities around the local area? I just graduated from high school last month, and I'm just looking for something to do for the summer so that way I won't be bored all day at home! If any of you from the local area know any, please write back ASAP. Thank you so much! Sincerley, Preston Gaylor Sent from my iPod From anjelinac26 at gmail.com Tue Jul 2 21:21:14 2013 From: anjelinac26 at gmail.com (Anjelina) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 17:21:14 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Volunteer Opprotunities in the York/Harrisburg/Lancaster, PA Area In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1489A59A-C663-47FF-A4C4-DB3E65851332@gmail.com> Hi Preston, I am from the area. I will write you off list with some possible ideas. What you have planned for after the summer? We be going to college? Congratulations on your graduation! Sent from Anjelina's iPhone On Jul 2, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Preston Gaylor wrote: > Hi All: > For those that are on this list and are from the York/Harrisburg/Lancaster, PA area like myself, I was just curious if you know of any volunteer opprotunities around the local area? > I just graduated from high school last month, and I'm just looking for something to do for the summer so that way I won't be bored all day at home! > If any of you from the local area know any, please write back ASAP. > Thank you so much! > Sincerley, > Preston Gaylor > > Sent from my iPod > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/anjelinac26%40gmail.com From pgradioman at hotmail.com Tue Jul 2 21:26:11 2013 From: pgradioman at hotmail.com (Preston Gaylor) Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 17:26:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Volunteer Opprotunities in the York/Harrisburg/Lancaster, PA Area In-Reply-To: <1489A59A-C663-47FF-A4C4-DB3E65851332@gmail.com> References: <1489A59A-C663-47FF-A4C4-DB3E65851332@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Angella: Thank you so much! I am hoping to go to the CCB in the fall for training. Then if all goes well after that, I'm hoping to go to YTI and do their Computer Systems Specialist program. I wanted to do radio, but it's kind of a hard field to get into nowadays. So I'm just going to keep it as a hobby. Preston Sent from my iPod On Jul 2, 2013, at 5:21 PM, "Anjelina" wrote: > Hi Preston, I am from the area. I will write you off list with some possible ideas. What you have planned for after the summer? We be going to college? Congratulations on your graduation! > > Sent from Anjelina's iPhone > > On Jul 2, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Preston Gaylor wrote: > >> Hi All: >> For those that are on this list and are from the York/Harrisburg/Lancaster, PA area like myself, I was just curious if you know of any volunteer opprotunities around the local area? >> I just graduated from high school last month, and I'm just looking for something to do for the summer so that way I won't be bored all day at home! >> If any of you from the local area know any, please write back ASAP. >> Thank you so much! >> Sincerley, >> Preston Gaylor >> >> Sent from my iPod >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/anjelinac26%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/pgradioman%40hotmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Wed Jul 3 16:26:19 2013 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 12:26:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] problem with convention stream Message-ID: Hi all, I guess the active people are at convention; very quiet now. I definitely wanted to hear the convention live. I tried accessing the convention stream with windows media player and then clicked on the itunes feed stream. Neither worked. I got a message from windows media player saying it could not play that file type. I am hoping it works tomorrow for the actual session. Did anyone else have this issue? Thanks. Ashley From maurice.mines at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 16:30:18 2013 From: maurice.mines at gmail.com (Maurice Mines) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 09:30:18 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] problem with convention stream In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32096733-5202-4C96-AE7A-0E3BC97A257D@gmail.com> No I didn't have that problem at all but I was using the Apple scream a.k.a. iTunes. Hope this helps. Sincerely maurice mines. Secretary national Federation of the blind of Washington Clark County Chapter. Email KD zero I KO at iCloud.com. Phone 360-524-0791. On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:26 AM, "Ashley Bramlett" wrote: > Hi all, > > I guess the active people are at convention; very quiet now. > > I definitely wanted to hear the convention live. I tried accessing the convention stream with windows media player and then clicked on the itunes feed stream. > Neither worked. I got a message from windows media player saying it could not play that file type. > > I am hoping it works tomorrow for the actual session. Did anyone else have this issue? > > Thanks. > Ashley > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/maurice.mines%40gmail.com From anjelinac26 at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 16:52:33 2013 From: anjelinac26 at gmail.com (Anjelina) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 12:52:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] problem with convention stream In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ashley, what time did you log into the convention feed? It was active from 9 to 12. I was able to listen to the board meeting using my iPhone. I clicked on the iOS feed. I also tried Windows media player. When you click on the Windows media player option Windows media player should open And play What is being streamed. Hope this helps. Sent from Anjelina's iPhone On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:26 PM, "Ashley Bramlett" wrote: > Hi all, > > I guess the active people are at convention; very quiet now. > > I definitely wanted to hear the convention live. I tried accessing the convention stream with windows media player and then clicked on the itunes feed stream. > Neither worked. I got a message from windows media player saying it could not play that file type. > > I am hoping it works tomorrow for the actual session. Did anyone else have this issue? > > Thanks. > Ashley > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/anjelinac26%40gmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Wed Jul 3 17:07:22 2013 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:07:22 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] problem with convention stream In-Reply-To: <32096733-5202-4C96-AE7A-0E3BC97A257D@gmail.com> References: <32096733-5202-4C96-AE7A-0E3BC97A257D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8D2C5917409C4414B7C1DC007D0B9392@OwnerPC> Hello, I'm glad they did actually stream it and it worked for you all. Maybe I need to update windows media player or something. I also tried my laptop with the same results, yet windows media player plays other things just fine, although this is the first time I tried to listen to a stream with this version; most times, I download a file to listen later. Anjelina, I logged in before noon, so I know it was streaming, just not on my pc. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Maurice Mines Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 12:30 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] problem with convention stream No I didn't have that problem at all but I was using the Apple scream a.k.a. iTunes. Hope this helps. Sincerely maurice mines. Secretary national Federation of the blind of Washington Clark County Chapter. Email KD zero I KO at iCloud.com. Phone 360-524-0791. On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:26 AM, "Ashley Bramlett" wrote: > Hi all, > > I guess the active people are at convention; very quiet now. > > I definitely wanted to hear the convention live. I tried accessing the > convention stream with windows media player and then clicked on the itunes > feed stream. > Neither worked. I got a message from windows media player saying it could > not play that file type. > > I am hoping it works tomorrow for the actual session. Did anyone else have > this issue? > > Thanks. > Ashley > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/maurice.mines%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From dwebster125 at gmail.com Wed Jul 3 18:03:30 2013 From: dwebster125 at gmail.com (Dave Webster) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 11:03:30 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] problem with convention stream In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000001ce7817$a1eda4d0$e5c8ee70$@gmail.com> Hi Ashley. Its Dave. I think we might have talked before but. Then again we may not have. I heard the board meeting this morning. I used the itunes feed and it worked fine. It was a great board meeting. Tomorrow with the general sessions is gonna be great as well. I always love this time of year during convention. I'm sad I'm not there but I'm hoping maybe in the next few years I'll be able to go. Get back to me if you want to talk more. Ok? Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 9:26 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: [nabs-l] problem with convention stream Hi all, I guess the active people are at convention; very quiet now. I definitely wanted to hear the convention live. I tried accessing the convention stream with windows media player and then clicked on the itunes feed stream. Neither worked. I got a message from windows media player saying it could not play that file type. I am hoping it works tomorrow for the actual session. Did anyone else have this issue? Thanks. Ashley _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dwebster125%40gmail.com From dandrews at visi.com Wed Jul 3 19:04:42 2013 From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews) Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 14:04:42 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] GW Micro Announces Social Eyes Message-ID: > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE >GW Micro, Inc. Announces SocialEyes >Fort Wayne, Indiana (July 3, 2013) - GW Micro, Inc. 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The video can be accessed from GW Micro's >YouTube channel: >http://youtu.be/ULm6DW4zAmw > and can also be downloaded from the GW Micro website: >www.gwmicro.com/Training/Tutorials/Video/SocialEyes_Intro.mp4 >. A text transcript is also available at: >www.gwmicro.com/Training/Tutorials/Text/SocialEyes_Intro.txt >. >Contact: >Dan Weirich >GW Micro, Inc. >725 Airport North Office Park >Fort Wayne, IN 46825 >Email: >sales at gwmicro.com >Web: >www.gwmicro.com From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Wed Jul 3 23:59:33 2013 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 19:59:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] problem with convention stream In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Ashley, I did not have any trouble with the stream when choosing to listen to the feed using Win amp. However, I did notice that if you click on the link for the feed before the session starts, it will not automatically start when the session starts. It seems to me that you need to click on the link after the session has already started in order to listen to it. I hope this helps. Elizabeth -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ashley Bramlett" Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 12:26 PM To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" Subject: [nabs-l] problem with convention stream > Hi all, > > I guess the active people are at convention; very quiet now. > > I definitely wanted to hear the convention live. I tried accessing the > convention stream with windows media player and then clicked on the itunes > feed stream. > Neither worked. I got a message from windows media player saying it could > not play that file type. > > I am hoping it works tomorrow for the actual session. Did anyone else have > this issue? > > Thanks. > Ashley > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com > From jsoro620 at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 00:55:07 2013 From: jsoro620 at gmail.com (Joe) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 20:55:07 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Meeting Audio Message-ID: <001101ce7851$20ba08b0$622e1a10$@gmail.com> Hi, sorry if I missed this, but is there an audio archive of the NABS business meeting? Joe From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Thu Jul 4 01:53:49 2013 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 21:53:49 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Meeting Audio In-Reply-To: <001101ce7851$20ba08b0$622e1a10$@gmail.com> References: <001101ce7851$20ba08b0$622e1a10$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Joe, When I asked if the business meeting was going to be recorded during the last conference call just before convention, it seemed as though there were no definite plans to record the meeting. However, I do not know if anything transpired since the conference call. I recall hearing Sean say that he would look into it, but I have no idea if he was able to actually make it happen. I would say that contacting Sean about it may be your best bet. However, since he is at the convention, it may take him a while to respond. I hope this helps. Elizabeth -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joe" Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 8:55 PM To: "'NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLIND STUDENTS'" Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Meeting Audio > Hi, sorry if I missed this, but is there an audio archive of the NABS > business meeting? > > > > Joe > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com > From sjhhirst at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 13:44:03 2013 From: sjhhirst at gmail.com (Stephanie Hirst DeLuca) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 09:44:03 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Young professionals meeting In-Reply-To: <8FC4AD30-4055-4626-8B8A-27800BDBB93F@me.com> References: <942BBDB7-8FBF-48E7-B6FF-C7CC96BE5932@att.net> <6AE06F46-87A3-4F32-99E2-8B32CF630650@me.com> <295DF92E-7B6A-452C-BD02-5E7F49F58B79@gmail.com> <13324102-C703-4C3A-AC2C-016EB93861E1@gmail.com> <1A269576-AC6B-4466-93BE-2798F656CEBE@mac.com> <8FC4AD30-4055-4626-8B8A-27800BDBB93F@me.com> Message-ID: <-8855677072137266768@unknownmsgid> Hi everyone! Just a reminder that there will be a young professionals group interest meeting at 12:45pm in suite 1456. Everyone, including students, who is interested is welcome to attend. This will mostly be a brainstorming session to see what we want/need as current and future young professionals. On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Kathryn Webster wrote: > Hey everyone! I sent out two group texts to all winners regarding tonight's gathering spot. Just so everyone is on board, we are meeting at 10:15 in room 1824 (Julie and Kathryn's room) ... please do not feel obligated to come, but we would love to connect with you all! Feel free to waltz on in at any time after 10:15 ... I can't wait! > Kathryn Webster > PS: No shoes allowed on the beds, and there will be two guide dogs that reside in this particular room. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 3, 2013, at 7:54 PM, ALBERT ELIA wrote: > >> Are we planning to hang out this evening? If so, where and when? >> >> Best, >> >> Al, who is brusquer than usual because he's typing on an iPhone. >> >> On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Matt Yeater wrote: >> >>> Sounds like fun, >>> >>> Matt Yeater >>> >>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Molly Faerber wrote: >>> >>>> Kathryn--i don't have group messaging troubles, I was just half asleep when i sent that. My number is (401) 477 9079. :) >>>> >>>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Alex Loch wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for coordinating this ladies. It was fun. >>>>> >>>>> Cell (for whoever wants it): 763-242-6217 >>>>> >>>>> Alex Loch >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Kathryn Webster wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everyone! >>>>>> With a few of us involved, Julie and I hosted a scholarship winner get together tonight in our room. We had great fun, and I thought it'd be a good idea to have a universal way to contact all of us. With such busy schedules throughout the week, it'd be nice to make some time for us to get to know each other. So, Julie and I are going to create a group text...please reply to this message so we don't leave anyone out. >>>>>> P. s. my number is 203-273-8463, and Julie's is 314-610-7740 :) >>>>>> Can't wait, and talk soon >>>>>> Kathryn Webster and Julie McGinnity >>>>>> Room 1824 From kathrynwebster at me.com Thu Jul 4 13:47:37 2013 From: kathrynwebster at me.com (Kathryn Webster) Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 09:47:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Young professionals meeting In-Reply-To: <-8855677072137266768@unknownmsgid> References: <942BBDB7-8FBF-48E7-B6FF-C7CC96BE5932@att.net> <6AE06F46-87A3-4F32-99E2-8B32CF630650@me.com> <295DF92E-7B6A-452C-BD02-5E7F49F58B79@gmail.com> <13324102-C703-4C3A-AC2C-016EB93861E1@gmail.com> <1A269576-AC6B-4466-93BE-2798F656CEBE@mac.com> <8FC4AD30-4055-4626-8B8A-27800BDBB93F@me.com> <-8855677072137266768@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Sounds great! I will try my best to make it! Thanks for the reminder! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Stephanie Hirst DeLuca wrote: > Hi everyone! Just a reminder that there will be a young professionals > group interest meeting at 12:45pm in suite 1456. Everyone, including > students, who is interested is welcome to attend. This will mostly be > a brainstorming session to see what we want/need as current and future > young professionals. > > On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Kathryn Webster wrote: > >> Hey everyone! I sent out two group texts to all winners regarding tonight's gathering spot. Just so everyone is on board, we are meeting at 10:15 in room 1824 (Julie and Kathryn's room) ... please do not feel obligated to come, but we would love to connect with you all! Feel free to waltz on in at any time after 10:15 ... I can't wait! >> Kathryn Webster >> PS: No shoes allowed on the beds, and there will be two guide dogs that reside in this particular room. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 3, 2013, at 7:54 PM, ALBERT ELIA wrote: >> >>> Are we planning to hang out this evening? If so, where and when? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Al, who is brusquer than usual because he's typing on an iPhone. >>> >>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Matt Yeater wrote: >>> >>>> Sounds like fun, >>>> >>>> Matt Yeater >>>> >>>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Molly Faerber wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kathryn--i don't have group messaging troubles, I was just half asleep when i sent that. My number is (401) 477 9079. :) >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Alex Loch wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for coordinating this ladies. It was fun. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cell (for whoever wants it): 763-242-6217 >>>>>> >>>>>> Alex Loch >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Kathryn Webster wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello everyone! >>>>>>> With a few of us involved, Julie and I hosted a scholarship winner get together tonight in our room. We had great fun, and I thought it'd be a good idea to have a universal way to contact all of us. With such busy schedules throughout the week, it'd be nice to make some time for us to get to know each other. So, Julie and I are going to create a group text...please reply to this message so we don't leave anyone out. >>>>>>> P. s. my number is 203-273-8463, and Julie's is 314-610-7740 :) >>>>>>> Can't wait, and talk soon >>>>>>> Kathryn Webster and Julie McGinnity >>>>>>> Room 1824 From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Thu Jul 4 14:43:58 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 14:43:58 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] What's going on? Message-ID: The convention stream isn't playing! Thanks, Joshua From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 15:11:33 2013 From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (christopher nusbaum) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 11:11:33 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] What's going on? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7791030391746209575@unknownmsgid> Which media player are you using? I'm here at the convention and can tell you that we are currently going through the Role Call of States. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > The convention stream isn't playing! > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Thu Jul 4 15:13:19 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 15:13:19 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] What's going on? In-Reply-To: <7791030391746209575@unknownmsgid> References: , <7791030391746209575@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Windows Media Player! Please tell whoever's responsible for it, my problem. Thanks, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of christopher nusbaum [dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:11 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? Which media player are you using? I'm here at the convention and can tell you that we are currently going through the Role Call of States. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > The convention stream isn't playing! > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Thu Jul 4 15:39:07 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 15:39:07 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] What's going on? In-Reply-To: References: , <7791030391746209575@unknownmsgid>, Message-ID: Wow! It's working now! Blessings, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Joshua Lester [JLester8462 at pccua.edu] Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:13 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? Windows Media Player! Please tell whoever's responsible for it, my problem. Thanks, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of christopher nusbaum [dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:11 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? Which media player are you using? I'm here at the convention and can tell you that we are currently going through the Role Call of States. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > The convention stream isn't playing! > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu From andrewjedg at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 15:41:45 2013 From: andrewjedg at gmail.com (Andrew) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 11:41:45 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] What's going on? In-Reply-To: References: <7791030391746209575@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: how can I hear the streme On 7/4/13, Joshua Lester wrote: > Wow! > It's working now! > Blessings, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Joshua Lester > [JLester8462 at pccua.edu] > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:13 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? > > Windows Media Player! > Please tell whoever's responsible for it, my problem. > Thanks, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of christopher nusbaum > [dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:11 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? > > Which media player are you using? I'm here at the convention and can > tell you that we are currently going through the Role Call of States. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > >> The convention stream isn't playing! >> Thanks, Joshua >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/andrewjedg%40gmail.com > From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 15:44:11 2013 From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (christopher nusbaum) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 11:44:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] What's going on? In-Reply-To: References: <7791030391746209575@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <4156827591048617573@unknownmsgid> Good. They were probably having some trouble getting the stream up at the beginning of the session—this usually happens on the first day. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > Wow! > It's working now! > Blessings, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Joshua Lester [JLester8462 at pccua.edu] > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:13 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? > > Windows Media Player! > Please tell whoever's responsible for it, my problem. > Thanks, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of christopher nusbaum [dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:11 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? > > Which media player are you using? I'm here at the convention and can > tell you that we are currently going through the Role Call of States. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > >> The convention stream isn't playing! >> Thanks, Joshua >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 15:48:43 2013 From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (christopher nusbaum) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 11:48:43 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] What's going on? In-Reply-To: References: <7791030391746209575@unknownmsgid>

Message-ID: <-4990095919723724077@unknownmsgid> The direct link to the stream is: www.nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule. From this page, click on the link corresponding to your media player of choice and the stream should load. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Andrew wrote: > how can I hear the streme > > On 7/4/13, Joshua Lester wrote: >> Wow! >> It's working now! >> Blessings, Joshua >> ________________________________________ >> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Joshua Lester >> [JLester8462 at pccua.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:13 AM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? >> >> Windows Media Player! >> Please tell whoever's responsible for it, my problem. >> Thanks, Joshua >> ________________________________________ >> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of christopher nusbaum >> [dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:11 AM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? >> >> Which media player are you using? I'm here at the convention and can >> tell you that we are currently going through the Role Call of States. >> >> Chris Nusbaum >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: >> >>> The convention stream isn't playing! >>> Thanks, Joshua >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/andrewjedg%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Thu Jul 4 17:43:14 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:43:14 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention! Message-ID: Wow! I listened, halfway through the role-call of states, and I'm shocked! Wyoming has never shown up to the convenntion, so why should they still have an affiliate? Good grief! They should be represented in some shape, form or fashion! Blessings, Joshua From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Thu Jul 4 19:18:20 2013 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 15:18:20 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] What's going on? In-Reply-To: References: , <7791030391746209575@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Hi Joshua, If you read my email yesterday, you know I tried using windows media player too and had problems. This morning I had mixed success. The first hour the stream faded in and out. It must be a windows media thing. But, now I'm glad to say its coming loud and clear without the interruptions I had before. I suggest if it stops streaming, close your internet browser and start the stream over. If that fails to work, restart your computer and open the internet browser from there. I hope it continues to work, but your not the only one with problems. I hope you hear this afternoon's agenda. They are talking about access to a huge job site, monster.com. Additionally, there is a pannel on movement and sports. Lisa Maria, president of sports division, and others I recognize are on it and I can't wait to hear it. Take care. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Lester Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 11:13 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? Windows Media Player! Please tell whoever's responsible for it, my problem. Thanks, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of christopher nusbaum [dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:11 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? Which media player are you using? I'm here at the convention and can tell you that we are currently going through the Role Call of States. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > The convention stream isn't playing! > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Thu Jul 4 19:29:47 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 19:29:47 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] What's going on? In-Reply-To: References: , <7791030391746209575@unknownmsgid> , Message-ID: WMP's working fine today! That was an awesome presidential report! Blessings, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Ashley Bramlett [bookwormahb at earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:18 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? Hi Joshua, If you read my email yesterday, you know I tried using windows media player too and had problems. This morning I had mixed success. The first hour the stream faded in and out. It must be a windows media thing. But, now I'm glad to say its coming loud and clear without the interruptions I had before. I suggest if it stops streaming, close your internet browser and start the stream over. If that fails to work, restart your computer and open the internet browser from there. I hope it continues to work, but your not the only one with problems. I hope you hear this afternoon's agenda. They are talking about access to a huge job site, monster.com. Additionally, there is a pannel on movement and sports. Lisa Maria, president of sports division, and others I recognize are on it and I can't wait to hear it. Take care. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Lester Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 11:13 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? Windows Media Player! Please tell whoever's responsible for it, my problem. Thanks, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of christopher nusbaum [dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:11 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? Which media player are you using? I'm here at the convention and can tell you that we are currently going through the Role Call of States. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > The convention stream isn't playing! > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu From dwebster125 at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 21:10:40 2013 From: dwebster125 at gmail.com (Dave Webster) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 14:10:40 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001e01ce78fa$f21ee070$d65ca150$@gmail.com> Hi. Its Dave. Yea I was surprised as well. I don't remember Wyoming ever showing up to convention either. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:43 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] Convention! Wow! I listened, halfway through the role-call of states, and I'm shocked! Wyoming has never shown up to the convenntion, so why should they still have an affiliate? Good grief! They should be represented in some shape, form or fashion! Blessings, Joshua _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dwebster125%40gmail.com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 21:46:57 2013 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:46:57 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Young professionals meeting In-Reply-To: <-8855677072137266768@unknownmsgid> References: <942BBDB7-8FBF-48E7-B6FF-C7CC96BE5932@att.net> <6AE06F46-87A3-4F32-99E2-8B32CF630650@me.com> <295DF92E-7B6A-452C-BD02-5E7F49F58B79@gmail.com> <13324102-C703-4C3A-AC2C-016EB93861E1@gmail.com> <1A269576-AC6B-4466-93BE-2798F656CEBE@mac.com> <8FC4AD30-4055-4626-8B8A-27800BDBB93F@me.com> <-8855677072137266768@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <000001ce7900$022e4230$068ac690$@gmail.com> You did a great job Steffany . Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie Hirst DeLuca Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 9:44 AM To: Kathryn Webster; National Association of Blind Students mailing list; Kimmie Beverly Cc: Austen Conrad; ALBERT ELIA; Gjata Juna; Kavanaugh Tyler; Zundel Stephanie; Burton Danielle; Molly Faerber; Dehart Angela; Kwak Miso; Hardyway Fredrick; muse disa; Olivero treva; Gregory Chang Patti; Colasurdo Mark; Johnson Edgar; Shelton Kaiti; Wamta Ivy; Rovig Loraine; Fleschner Kristin; Matt Yeater; Minkara Mona; Bair Cody; Phelps Steve; Hubbard Natasha; Lovell Brooke; Lawless Domonique; Alex Loch; Rasmussen Heather; Siquires Ramurez Jeri Subject: [nabs-l] Young professionals meeting Hi everyone! Just a reminder that there will be a young professionals group interest meeting at 12:45pm in suite 1456. Everyone, including students, who is interested is welcome to attend. This will mostly be a brainstorming session to see what we want/need as current and future young professionals. On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Kathryn Webster wrote: > Hey everyone! I sent out two group texts to all winners regarding tonight's gathering spot. Just so everyone is on board, we are meeting at 10:15 in room 1824 (Julie and Kathryn's room) ... please do not feel obligated to come, but we would love to connect with you all! Feel free to waltz on in at any time after 10:15 ... I can't wait! > Kathryn Webster > PS: No shoes allowed on the beds, and there will be two guide dogs that reside in this particular room. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 3, 2013, at 7:54 PM, ALBERT ELIA wrote: > >> Are we planning to hang out this evening? If so, where and when? >> >> Best, >> >> Al, who is brusquer than usual because he's typing on an iPhone. >> >> On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:59 PM, Matt Yeater wrote: >> >>> Sounds like fun, >>> >>> Matt Yeater >>> >>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Molly Faerber wrote: >>> >>>> Kathryn--i don't have group messaging troubles, I was just half >>>> asleep when i sent that. My number is (401) 477 9079. :) >>>> >>>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Alex Loch wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for coordinating this ladies. It was fun. >>>>> >>>>> Cell (for whoever wants it): 763-242-6217 >>>>> >>>>> Alex Loch >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Kathryn Webster wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Hello everyone! >>>>>> With a few of us involved, Julie and I hosted a scholarship winner get together tonight in our room. We had great fun, and I thought it'd be a good idea to have a universal way to contact all of us. With such busy schedules throughout the week, it'd be nice to make some time for us to get to know each other. So, Julie and I are going to create a group text...please reply to this message so we don't leave anyone out. >>>>>> P. s. my number is 203-273-8463, and Julie's is 314-610-7740 :) >>>>>> Can't wait, and talk soon Kathryn Webster and Julie McGinnity >>>>>> Room 1824 _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 21:46:57 2013 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:46:57 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention! In-Reply-To: <001e01ce78fa$f21ee070$d65ca150$@gmail.com> References: <001e01ce78fa$f21ee070$d65ca150$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <000101ce7900$02c8d480$085a7d80$@gmail.com> I remember the state showing up; they do so every year. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dave Webster Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 5:11 PM To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention! Hi. Its Dave. Yea I was surprised as well. I don't remember Wyoming ever showing up to convention either. -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:43 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] Convention! Wow! I listened, halfway through the role-call of states, and I'm shocked! Wyoming has never shown up to the convenntion, so why should they still have an affiliate? Good grief! They should be represented in some shape, form or fashion! Blessings, Joshua _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dwebster125%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From brookenicholeanderson at gmail.com Thu Jul 4 22:57:49 2013 From: brookenicholeanderson at gmail.com (brooke anderson) Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:57:49 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention! In-Reply-To: <000101ce7900$02c8d480$085a7d80$@gmail.com> References: <001e01ce78fa$f21ee070$d65ca150$@gmail.com> <000101ce7900$02c8d480$085a7d80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes I remember them being there is well when I've attended. send from my galaxy note ii On Jul 4, 2013 4:47 PM, "justin williams" wrote: > I remember the state showing up; they do so every year. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dave Webster > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 5:11 PM > To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention! > > Hi. Its Dave. Yea I was surprised as well. I don't remember Wyoming ever > showing up to convention either. > > -----Original Message----- > From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:43 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Convention! > > Wow! > I listened, halfway through the role-call of states, and I'm shocked! > Wyoming has never shown up to the convenntion, so why should they still > have > an affiliate? > Good grief! > They should be represented in some shape, form or fashion! > Blessings, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dwebster125%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail > .com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/brookenicholeanderson%40gmail.com > From helga.schreiber at hotmail.com Fri Jul 5 06:18:38 2013 From: helga.schreiber at hotmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 02:18:38 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment Message-ID: Hi all, I just wanted to tell you that for my ENC 1102 class, I’m doing an assignment called “Assignment for Research Plan and Bibliography” The first part of the assignment is to answer 8 questions regarding my topic in order to write my research plan before writing my draft of my research paper. Remember when I told you before that my topic for my research paper is “Exists Discrimination Against Visually Impaired College Students?” I actually turned in the first draft of this assignment, on Monday July 1st, but the final draft is due on Monday July 8. In fact, I asked my professor after class last Monday, if I could send her my answers of my 8 questions, in order for to provide me with some comments about them, and I actually did so. In one of the questions she suggested if I could give testimonies from other students in order to make my argument that I’m making strong. Here are actually the 8 questions I need to answer for my research plan, and underneath each questions are my answers with her comments. Part I: The Research Plan [no word count specified; answer the questions in as much detail as you can] Your research plan will address the following the issues: 1) What is your research question? Explain why your question is appropriate for the length and complexity of the final research project. Does discrimination against visually impaired college students exist? This question is appropriate for my final research project because I believe that discrimination occurs frequently in many places in our country and all around the world for visually impaired college students. Discrimination exists for all disabled students, but I will focus specifically on visually impaired college students due to the fact that they are frequently not provided with the necessary accommodations, such as braille materials and technological support. Moreover, they are sometimes rejected by sighted individuals, like administrators, educators, and fellow students. When considering how many issues visually impaired college students face, this topic becomes very complex and requires a great deal of explanation. Comments on question 1: It seems like you’ve come to a conclusion about the fact that visually impaired students are discriminated against. I think a better way to frame this issue would be to say that you’ve experienced discrimination and you’d like to find out if what you’ve experienced is common—if discrimination against the visually impaired in college exists more widely than just your experience. 2) Why are you writing about this question or issue? What makes it important to write about this issue now? What interests you in this issue? [Think about kairos—making an argument at an opportune time.] The reason I’m writing about this issue is because I believe visually impaired students and sighted students must have the same opportunities and rights in order to accomplish their goals. This issue is significant now because there is better technological support and human resources, like Disability Support Services for these students than in the past that are not being well utilized. Because I have firsthand experiences regarding this issue, I am interested in advocating for better understanding of the visually impaired students’ needs and learning methods. Comments on question 2: looks good. 3) Do you have a personal connection to this issue? Could you use this connection or experience as evidence or an emotional appeal in your essay? I have a personal connection with this issue because I’m a visually impaired student who is not receiving enough technological support from Disability Support Services. For instance, the first way I learned to study was with braille; however, this method is not being given to me in an adequate manner for books, class notes, tests and others materials even though this is known by the Administration and Disability Support Services. I can use this difficult experience as an emotional appeal to strengthen my argument. Comments on question 3: Remember not to rely too heavily on just your experience when you write the paper; your experiences are important, but you need a lot more evidence to create a convincing argument. 4) What is your working thesis? [A working thesis is your tentative answer to your research question. You can always change it as your research evolves.] Do you need to use any qualifiers with your thesis to ensure a general audience would be likely to accept it? Discrimination against visually impaired college students truly exists due to a lack of technological support and rejection by sighted individuals, who do not thoroughly understand the challenges and accommodations of these students. Comments on question 4: You might want to add a qualifier to this thesis. Also, do you really think that all visually impaired students are discriminated against? Just because PBSC isn’t doing a good enough job for you doesn’t mean that other colleges and universities aren’t much better at addressing the needs of visually impaired students. You need to carefully consider this point of view. 5) What sort of claim does your working thesis make? Is it one of fact, definition, evaluation, causality, or proposal? The sort of claim that my working thesis is based upon is one of evaluations about situations in which visually impaired students have been affected by discrimination. Comments on question 5: Your question in number one seems to indicate that this would be an argument of fact. 6) What sort of evidence are you basing your thesis on? What are you reasons for reaching this conclusion? I’m basing my thesis on references of legal cases, personal experiences and written articles about rights and laws that affect the disabled persons. I think that everyone has equal opportunities as stated in the Constitution of the United States and this extends into the college environment. Comments on question 6: Looks good. 7) What assumptions are you making that allow you to connect your working thesis with your reasons/evidence? Will an audience of general readers likely accept the connection you’ve made between your evidence and your thesis? [Basically, what is your warrant?] I make the assumption that administrators, support services and students alike are not necessarily knowledgeable about the rights and laws that institutions are required to follow. This is the source for many conflicts between students and institutions when trying to provide services for their needs. Comment on 7: I think you’re also assuming that other students have experienced what you’ve experienced. Also, as noted above, you assume that all students regardless of disability status deserve the same access to educational materials and effective teaching methods. 8) What sort of evidence do you need? What information will you be looking for when you conduct your research? [Basically, what do you still need to know?] I probably would need to know statistics, percentages, numbers of cases solved, (or to be solved,) and also how they are getting solved. Comment on 8: I think you really need to take a look at how widespread this problem is. It might be tough to find percentages, but testimony from other students could be really important to your argument. Here are actually the questions with my answers. I was just wondering, would it be possible for you to tell me what do you think of the questions, my answers, and my professor’s comments? Also, I just would like to ask you, could you tell me some of your testimonies regarding the issue of discrimination, and if you have experience it before during your college years and even now in college right now, in order to use them as evidence in my research paper? I will really appreciate it. And if you could provide me with some specific information, like for instance, the name of the college or Univercity, and in what State is located that will be great! as well. Thank you so much for listening to me and God bless! Sincerelly, Helga Schreiber From jim.hulme at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 06:51:31 2013 From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 02:51:31 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] What's going on? In-Reply-To: References: <7791030391746209575@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: The link for the stream is as follows: http://www.nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule The link to various podcasts of this year's 73rd Annual NFB National Convention from Orlando, FL is at: http://www.insightradio.co.uk/podcast-feed.html?category=special_features/nfb_convention_2013 Hope This Helps. I am a listener of this year's convention on Windows media Player. I will be back on Twitter posting and tweeting on Saturday July 6, 2013 Have a great Convention everyone. Jimmy Hulme 908-868-2836 (M) http://www.facebook.com/jimmy.hulme1 Twitter @JimHulmeLookout http://www.twitter.com/JimHulmeLookout jim.hulme at gmail.com On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Joshua Lester wrote: > WMP's working fine today! > That was an awesome presidential report! > Blessings, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Ashley Bramlett [ > bookwormahb at earthlink.net] > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 2:18 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? > > Hi Joshua, > If you read my email yesterday, you know I tried using windows media player > too and had problems. > This morning I had mixed success. The first hour the stream faded in and > out. It must be a windows media thing. > But, now I'm glad to say its coming loud and clear without the > interruptions > I had before. > > I suggest if it stops streaming, close your internet browser and start the > stream over. If that fails to work, restart your computer and open the > internet browser from there. > > I hope it continues to work, but your not the only one with problems. I > hope > you hear this afternoon's agenda. They are talking about access to a huge > job site, monster.com. Additionally, there is a pannel on movement and > sports. Lisa Maria, president of sports division, and others I recognize > are > on it and I can't wait to hear it. > > Take care. > Ashley > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joshua Lester > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 11:13 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? > > Windows Media Player! > Please tell whoever's responsible for it, my problem. > Thanks, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of christopher nusbaum > [dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:11 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] What's going on? > > Which media player are you using? I'm here at the convention and can > tell you that we are currently going through the Role Call of States. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 4, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > > > The convention stream isn't playing! > > Thanks, Joshua > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nabs-l mailing list > > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > > nabs-l: > > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jim.hulme%40gmail.com > From herekittykat2 at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 11:22:01 2013 From: herekittykat2 at gmail.com (Jewel) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 07:22:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90175C3F-B0A2-46EF-AFE0-978DAE8A96A2@gmail.com> Would testimonials that do not support your claim, ie that talk about the equal treatment a student experienced be also welcome? If so, I would be happy to write about my experiences. -Jewel Sent from my iPhone On Jul 5, 2013, at 2:18 AM, Helga Schreiber wrote: > Hi all, > I just wanted to tell you that for my ENC 1102 class, I’m doing an assignment called “Assignment for Research Plan and Bibliography” The first part of the assignment is to answer 8 questions regarding my topic in order to write my research plan before writing my draft of my research paper. Remember when I told you before that my topic for my research paper is “Exists Discrimination Against Visually Impaired College Students?” I actually turned in the first draft of this assignment, on Monday July 1st, but the final draft is due on Monday July 8. In fact, I asked my professor after class last Monday, if I could send her my answers of my 8 questions, in order for to provide me with some comments about them, and I actually did so. In one of the questions she suggested if I could give testimonies from other students in order to make my argument that I’m making strong. Here are actually the 8 questions I need to answer for my research plan, and underneath each questions are my answers with her comments. > Part I: The Research Plan [no word count specified; answer the questions in as much detail as you can] > > > > Your research plan will address the following the issues: > > > > 1) What is your research question? Explain why your question is appropriate for the length and complexity of the final research project. > > Does discrimination against visually impaired college students exist? This question is appropriate for my final research project because I believe that discrimination occurs frequently in many places in our country and all around the world for visually impaired college students. Discrimination exists for all disabled students, but I will focus specifically on visually impaired college students due to the fact that they are frequently not provided with the necessary accommodations, such as braille materials and technological support. Moreover, they are sometimes rejected by sighted individuals, like administrators, educators, and fellow students. When considering how many issues visually impaired college students face, this topic becomes very complex and requires a great deal of explanation. > > > > Comments on question 1: It seems like you’ve come to a conclusion about the fact that visually impaired students are discriminated against. I think a better way to frame this issue would be to say that you’ve experienced discrimination and you’d like to find out if what you’ve experienced is common—if discrimination against the visually impaired in college exists more widely than just your experience. > > 2) Why are you writing about this question or issue? What makes it important to write about this issue now? What interests you in this issue? [Think about kairos—making an argument at an opportune time.] > > The reason I’m writing about this issue is because I believe visually impaired students and sighted students must have the same opportunities and rights in order to accomplish their goals. This issue is significant now because there is better technological support and human resources, like Disability Support Services for these students than in the past that are not being well utilized. Because I have firsthand experiences regarding this issue, I am interested in advocating for better understanding of the visually impaired students’ needs and learning methods. > > Comments on question 2: looks good. > > 3) Do you have a personal connection to this issue? Could you use this connection or experience as evidence or an emotional appeal in your essay? > > I have a personal connection with this issue because I’m a visually impaired student who is not receiving enough technological support from Disability Support Services. For instance, the first way I learned to study was with braille; however, this method is not being given to me in an adequate manner for books, class notes, tests and others materials even though this is known by the Administration and Disability Support Services. I can use this difficult experience as an emotional appeal to strengthen my argument. > > Comments on question 3: Remember not to rely too heavily on just your experience when you write the paper; your experiences are important, but you need a lot more evidence to create a convincing argument. > > 4) What is your working thesis? [A working thesis is your tentative answer to your research question. You can always change it as your research evolves.] Do you need to use any qualifiers with your thesis to ensure a general audience would be likely to accept it? > > Discrimination against visually impaired college students truly exists due to a lack of technological support and rejection by sighted individuals, who do not thoroughly understand the challenges and accommodations of these students. > > Comments on question 4: You might want to add a qualifier to this thesis. Also, do you really think that all visually impaired students are discriminated against? Just because PBSC isn’t doing a good enough job for you doesn’t mean that other colleges and universities aren’t much better at addressing the needs of visually impaired students. You need to carefully consider this point of view. > > 5) What sort of claim does your working thesis make? Is it one of fact, definition, evaluation, causality, or proposal? > > The sort of claim that my working thesis is based upon is one of evaluations about situations in which visually impaired students have been affected by discrimination. > > Comments on question 5: Your question in number one seems to indicate that this would be an argument of fact. > > 6) What sort of evidence are you basing your thesis on? What are you reasons for reaching this conclusion? > > I’m basing my thesis on references of legal cases, personal experiences and written articles about rights and laws that affect the disabled persons. I think that everyone has equal opportunities as stated in the Constitution of the United States and this extends into the college environment. > > Comments on question 6: Looks good. > > 7) What assumptions are you making that allow you to connect your working thesis with your reasons/evidence? Will an audience of general readers likely accept the connection you’ve made between your evidence and your thesis? [Basically, what is your warrant?] > > I make the assumption that administrators, support services and students alike are not necessarily knowledgeable about the rights and laws that institutions are required to follow. This is the source for many conflicts between students and institutions when trying to provide services for their needs. > > Comment on 7: I think you’re also assuming that other students have experienced what you’ve experienced. Also, as noted above, you assume that all students regardless of disability status deserve the same access to educational materials and effective teaching methods. > > 8) What sort of evidence do you need? What information will you be looking for when you conduct your research? [Basically, what do you still need to know?] > > I probably would need to know statistics, percentages, numbers of cases solved, (or to be solved,) and also how they are getting solved. > > Comment on 8: I think you really need to take a look at how widespread this problem is. It might be tough to find percentages, but testimony from other students could be really important to your argument. > > > > Here are actually the questions with my answers. I was just wondering, would it be possible for you to tell me what do you think of the questions, my answers, and my professor’s comments? Also, I just would like to ask you, could you tell me some of your testimonies regarding the issue of discrimination, and if you have experience it before during your college years and even now in college right now, in order to use them as evidence in my research paper? I will really appreciate it. And if you could provide me with some specific information, like for instance, the name of the college or Univercity, and in what State is located that will be great! as well. Thank you so much for listening to me and God bless! > > > > Sincerelly, Helga Schreiber > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/herekittykat2%40gmail.com From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 13:48:19 2013 From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (christopher nusbaum) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:48:19 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Convention! In-Reply-To: References: <001e01ce78fa$f21ee070$d65ca150$@gmail.com> <000101ce7900$02c8d480$085a7d80$@gmail.com> Message-ID: <-7411355895404290511@unknownmsgid> They weren't here this year, but I also remember them being at the convention. By the way, I don't think an affiliate's status as an affiliate depends solely on its attendance at national convention. Considering Wyoming's small size, I don't think it would be fair to them to revoke their charter on the grounds that they didn't respond to the role at one convention. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2013, at 6:58 PM, brooke anderson wrote: > Yes I remember them being there is well when I've attended. > > send from my galaxy note ii > On Jul 4, 2013 4:47 PM, "justin williams" > wrote: > >> I remember the state showing up; they do so every year. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dave Webster >> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 5:11 PM >> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Convention! >> >> Hi. Its Dave. Yea I was surprised as well. I don't remember Wyoming ever >> showing up to convention either. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester >> Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2013 10:43 AM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Subject: [nabs-l] Convention! >> >> Wow! >> I listened, halfway through the role-call of states, and I'm shocked! >> Wyoming has never shown up to the convenntion, so why should they still >> have >> an affiliate? >> Good grief! >> They should be represented in some shape, form or fashion! >> Blessings, Joshua >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dwebster125%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail >> .com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/brookenicholeanderson%40gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com From weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 15:44:56 2013 From: weirdwriter9891 at gmail.com (The weird writer) Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 10:44:56 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Kingett reads fifty shades of grey part 1 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51D6E9F8.8050209@gmail.com> for thoes that care, Kingett Reads fifty shades of grey part 1. http://truthiscool.com/fifty-shades-of-grey-part-one. here is a blog post about it. http://blindchicagodream.wordpress.com/2013/07/05/kingett-reads-fifty-shades-of-grey-part-1-is-here/ /*See below for resume, writing links, social media links, and other writing archives */ *Click here to view my resume* * * *Click here to see my writing archive * *Click here to view my website/ / * */ /* */writer for Chicago Theater Beat/ * *Tel: 850 764 2161 * Facebook Twitter LinkedIn YouTube WordPress My latest comedy review: Josh Blue: Putting the Cerebral in Cerebral Palsy My latest Audio Description review: Audio Description review: How Long Will I Cry? (play) WordPress My latest post in my blog:Kingett Reads Fifty Shades of Grey update! Read more | My blog Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Get this email app! Designed with WiseStamp - Get yours From sgermano at asu.edu Fri Jul 5 16:22:16 2013 From: sgermano at asu.edu (Suzanne Germano) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:22:16 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As I responded before I experienced discrimination form professors at San Diego State University and Grossmont College. At SDSU, I was speaking with a dean of the chemistry department about changing my major from computer science to computational science and he said to me "I cannot imagine any job you can do". I am low vision. i used large print, took my tests in the classroom in large print, used monocular to read the board and was getting As. None of that mattered. He felt because I had a visual impairment that I could not any job. At Grossmont College, I was in a certificate program for computer science and information systems. The program was limited to students with disabilities. We had our own high tech classroom with screen magnification, signers for the deaf students etc. We were each assigned a mentor form the Business Advisory Council who were part of the program so they knew every student had a disability. In my first conversation with my mentor he said, "I cant imagine you being able to get a job as a programmer if you can't see". I returned to school at ASU, Jan 2013 and in the courses I had, I did not have any discrimination. I have only had interactions with a few professors so far. Disabled student services seem to provide what I need. They will scan books for electronic or print out large print. The school tried to get the computer in the classroom equipped with MAGic but it crashed the program we were using so they they brought in a second monitor so I could have that monitor with windows magnification which absolutely sucks and the students in my group used the other screen at regular size. The professor I have now for a programming class remembers to bring all the in class assignments printed out large for me. If you want more detail let me know On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Helga Schreiber < helga.schreiber at hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > I just wanted to tell you that for my ENC 1102 class, I’m doing an > assignment called “Assignment for Research Plan and Bibliography” The first > part of the assignment is to answer 8 questions regarding my topic in order > to write my research plan before writing my draft of my research paper. > Remember when I told you before that my topic for my research paper is > “Exists Discrimination Against Visually Impaired College Students?” I > actually turned in the first draft of this assignment, on Monday July 1st, > but the final draft is due on Monday July 8. In fact, I asked my professor > after class last Monday, if I could send her my answers of my 8 questions, > in order for to provide me with some comments about them, and I actually > did so. In one of the questions she suggested if I could give testimonies > from other students in order to make my argument that I’m making strong. > Here are actually the 8 questions I need to answer for my research plan, > and underneath each questions are my answers with her comments. > Part I: The Research Plan [no word count specified; answer the questions > in as much detail as you can] > > > > Your research plan will address the following the issues: > > > > 1) What is your research question? Explain why your question is > appropriate for the length and complexity of the final research project. > > Does discrimination against visually impaired college students > exist? This question is appropriate for my final research project because I > believe that discrimination occurs frequently in many places in our country > and all around the world for visually impaired college students. > Discrimination exists for all disabled students, but I will focus > specifically on visually impaired college students due to the fact that > they are frequently not provided with the necessary accommodations, such as > braille materials and technological support. Moreover, they are sometimes > rejected by sighted individuals, like administrators, educators, and fellow > students. When considering how many issues visually impaired college > students face, this topic becomes very complex and requires a great deal of > explanation. > > > > Comments on question 1: It seems like you’ve come to a conclusion about > the fact that visually impaired students are discriminated against. I think > a better way to frame this issue would be to say that you’ve experienced > discrimination and you’d like to find out if what you’ve experienced is > common—if discrimination against the visually impaired in college exists > more widely than just your experience. > > 2) Why are you writing about this question or issue? What makes it > important to write about this issue now? What interests you in this issue? > [Think about kairos—making an argument at an opportune time.] > > The reason I’m writing about this issue is because I believe > visually impaired students and sighted students must have the same > opportunities and rights in order to accomplish their goals. This issue is > significant now because there is better technological support and human > resources, like Disability Support Services for these students than in the > past that are not being well utilized. Because I have firsthand > experiences regarding this issue, I am interested in advocating for better > understanding of the visually impaired students’ needs and learning methods. > > Comments on question 2: looks good. > > 3) Do you have a personal connection to this issue? Could you use > this connection or experience as evidence or an emotional appeal in your > essay? > > I have a personal connection with this issue because I’m a visually > impaired student who is not receiving enough technological support from > Disability Support Services. For instance, the first way I learned to study > was with braille; however, this method is not being given to me in an > adequate manner for books, class notes, tests and others materials even > though this is known by the Administration and Disability Support Services. > I can use this difficult experience as an emotional appeal to strengthen my > argument. > > Comments on question 3: Remember not to rely too heavily on just your > experience when you write the paper; your experiences are important, but > you need a lot more evidence to create a convincing argument. > > 4) What is your working thesis? [A working thesis is your tentative > answer to your research question. You can always change it as your research > evolves.] Do you need to use any qualifiers with your thesis to ensure a > general audience would be likely to accept it? > > Discrimination against visually impaired college students truly > exists due to a lack of technological support and rejection by sighted > individuals, who do not thoroughly understand the challenges and > accommodations of these students. > > Comments on question 4: You might want to add a qualifier to this thesis. > Also, do you really think that all visually impaired students are > discriminated against? Just because PBSC isn’t doing a good enough job for > you doesn’t mean that other colleges and universities aren’t much better at > addressing the needs of visually impaired students. You need to carefully > consider this point of view. > > 5) What sort of claim does your working thesis make? Is it one of > fact, definition, evaluation, causality, or proposal? > > The sort of claim that my working thesis is based upon is one of > evaluations about situations in which visually impaired students have been > affected by discrimination. > > Comments on question 5: Your question in number one seems to indicate that > this would be an argument of fact. > > 6) What sort of evidence are you basing your thesis on? What are you > reasons for reaching this conclusion? > > I’m basing my thesis on references of legal cases, personal > experiences and written articles about rights and laws that affect the > disabled persons. I think that everyone has equal opportunities as stated > in the Constitution of the United States and this extends into the college > environment. > > Comments on question 6: Looks good. > > 7) What assumptions are you making that allow you to connect your > working thesis with your reasons/evidence? Will an audience of general > readers likely accept the connection you’ve made between your evidence and > your thesis? [Basically, what is your warrant?] > > I make the assumption that administrators, support services and > students alike are not necessarily knowledgeable about the rights and laws > that institutions are required to follow. This is the source for many > conflicts between students and institutions when trying to provide services > for their needs. > > Comment on 7: I think you’re also assuming that other students have > experienced what you’ve experienced. Also, as noted above, you assume that > all students regardless of disability status deserve the same access to > educational materials and effective teaching methods. > > 8) What sort of evidence do you need? What information will you be > looking for when you conduct your research? [Basically, what do you still > need to know?] > > I probably would need to know statistics, percentages, numbers of > cases solved, (or to be solved,) and also how they are getting solved. > > Comment on 8: I think you really need to take a look at how widespread > this problem is. It might be tough to find percentages, but testimony from > other students could be really important to your argument. > > > > Here are actually the questions with my answers. I was just wondering, > would it be possible for you to tell me what do you think of the questions, > my answers, and my professor’s comments? Also, I just would like to ask > you, could you tell me some of your testimonies regarding the issue of > discrimination, and if you have experience it before during your college > years and even now in college right now, in order to use them as evidence > in my research paper? I will really appreciate it. And if you could provide > me with some specific information, like for instance, the name of the > college or Univercity, and in what State is located that will be great! as > well. Thank you so much for listening to me and God bless! > > > > Sincerelly, Helga Schreiber > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40asu.edu > From helga.schreiber at hotmail.com Fri Jul 5 19:24:31 2013 From: helga.schreiber at hotmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:24:31 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment In-Reply-To: <90175C3F-B0A2-46EF-AFE0-978DAE8A96A2@gmail.com> References: <90175C3F-B0A2-46EF-AFE0-978DAE8A96A2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Jewel, this is helga. I just would like to ask you, do you mean testimonials that doesn't involve the issue of discrimination, and that talked about how visually impaired students receive the same treatment as sighted students? I think that is allright, and I would like to hear your experiences. But I was just wondering, have you ever experienced discrimination before in college, or do you know someone that has experience it during his or her college years, or even now in college? Just curious. Thanks! and God bless! -----Original Message----- From: Jewel Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 7:22 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment Would testimonials that do not support your claim, ie that talk about the equal treatment a student experienced be also welcome? If so, I would be happy to write about my experiences. -Jewel Sent from my iPhone On Jul 5, 2013, at 2:18 AM, Helga Schreiber wrote: > Hi all, > I just wanted to tell you that for my ENC 1102 class, I’m doing an > assignment called “Assignment for Research Plan and Bibliography” The > first part of the assignment is to answer 8 questions regarding my topic > in order to write my research plan before writing my draft of my research > paper. Remember when I told you before that my topic for my research paper > is “Exists Discrimination Against Visually Impaired College Students?” I > actually turned in the first draft of this assignment, on Monday July 1st, > but the final draft is due on Monday July 8. In fact, I asked my professor > after class last Monday, if I could send her my answers of my 8 questions, > in order for to provide me with some comments about them, and I actually > did so. In one of the questions she suggested if I could give testimonies > from other students in order to make my argument that I’m making strong. > Here are actually the 8 questions I need to answer for my research plan, > and underneath each questions are my answers with her comments. > Part I: The Research Plan [no word count specified; answer the questions > in as much detail as you can] > > > > Your research plan will address the following the issues: > > > > 1) What is your research question? Explain why your question is > appropriate for the length and complexity of the final research project. > > Does discrimination against visually impaired college students > exist? This question is appropriate for my final research project because > I believe that discrimination occurs frequently in many places in our > country and all around the world for visually impaired college students. > Discrimination exists for all disabled students, but I will focus > specifically on visually impaired college students due to the fact that > they are frequently not provided with the necessary accommodations, such > as braille materials and technological support. Moreover, they are > sometimes rejected by sighted individuals, like administrators, educators, > and fellow students. When considering how many issues visually impaired > college students face, this topic becomes very complex and requires a > great deal of explanation. > > > > Comments on question 1: It seems like you’ve come to a conclusion about > the fact that visually impaired students are discriminated against. I > think a better way to frame this issue would be to say that you’ve > experienced discrimination and you’d like to find out if what you’ve > experienced is common—if discrimination against the visually impaired in > college exists more widely than just your experience. > > 2) Why are you writing about this question or issue? What makes it > important to write about this issue now? What interests you in this issue? > [Think about kairos—making an argument at an opportune time.] > > The reason I’m writing about this issue is because I believe > visually impaired students and sighted students must have the same > opportunities and rights in order to accomplish their goals. This issue is > significant now because there is better technological support and human > resources, like Disability Support Services for these students than in the > past that are not being well utilized. Because I have firsthand > experiences regarding this issue, I am interested in advocating for better > understanding of the visually impaired students’ needs and learning > methods. > > Comments on question 2: looks good. > > 3) Do you have a personal connection to this issue? Could you use > this connection or experience as evidence or an emotional appeal in your > essay? > > I have a personal connection with this issue because I’m a visually > impaired student who is not receiving enough technological support from > Disability Support Services. For instance, the first way I learned to > study was with braille; however, this method is not being given to me in > an adequate manner for books, class notes, tests and others materials even > though this is known by the Administration and Disability Support > Services. I can use this difficult experience as an emotional appeal to > strengthen my argument. > > Comments on question 3: Remember not to rely too heavily on just your > experience when you write the paper; your experiences are important, but > you need a lot more evidence to create a convincing argument. > > 4) What is your working thesis? [A working thesis is your tentative > answer to your research question. You can always change it as your > research evolves.] Do you need to use any qualifiers with your thesis to > ensure a general audience would be likely to accept it? > > Discrimination against visually impaired college students truly > exists due to a lack of technological support and rejection by sighted > individuals, who do not thoroughly understand the challenges and > accommodations of these students. > > Comments on question 4: You might want to add a qualifier to this thesis. > Also, do you really think that all visually impaired students are > discriminated against? Just because PBSC isn’t doing a good enough job for > you doesn’t mean that other colleges and universities aren’t much better > at addressing the needs of visually impaired students. You need to > carefully consider this point of view. > > 5) What sort of claim does your working thesis make? Is it one of > fact, definition, evaluation, causality, or proposal? > > The sort of claim that my working thesis is based upon is one of > evaluations about situations in which visually impaired students have been > affected by discrimination. > > Comments on question 5: Your question in number one seems to indicate that > this would be an argument of fact. > > 6) What sort of evidence are you basing your thesis on? What are you > reasons for reaching this conclusion? > > I’m basing my thesis on references of legal cases, personal > experiences and written articles about rights and laws that affect the > disabled persons. I think that everyone has equal opportunities as stated > in the Constitution of the United States and this extends into the college > environment. > > Comments on question 6: Looks good. > > 7) What assumptions are you making that allow you to connect your > working thesis with your reasons/evidence? Will an audience of general > readers likely accept the connection you’ve made between your evidence and > your thesis? [Basically, what is your warrant?] > > I make the assumption that administrators, support services and > students alike are not necessarily knowledgeable about the rights and laws > that institutions are required to follow. This is the source for many > conflicts between students and institutions when trying to provide > services for their needs. > > Comment on 7: I think you’re also assuming that other students have > experienced what you’ve experienced. Also, as noted above, you assume that > all students regardless of disability status deserve the same access to > educational materials and effective teaching methods. > > 8) What sort of evidence do you need? What information will you be > looking for when you conduct your research? [Basically, what do you still > need to know?] > > I probably would need to know statistics, percentages, numbers of > cases solved, (or to be solved,) and also how they are getting solved. > > Comment on 8: I think you really need to take a look at how widespread > this problem is. It might be tough to find percentages, but testimony from > other students could be really important to your argument. > > > > Here are actually the questions with my answers. I was just wondering, > would it be possible for you to tell me what do you think of the > questions, my answers, and my professor’s comments? Also, I just would > like to ask you, could you tell me some of your testimonies regarding the > issue of discrimination, and if you have experience it before during your > college years and even now in college right now, in order to use them as > evidence in my research paper? I will really appreciate it. And if you > could provide me with some specific information, like for instance, the > name of the college or Univercity, and in what State is located that will > be great! as well. Thank you so much for listening to me and God bless! > > > > Sincerelly, Helga Schreiber > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/herekittykat2%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber%40hotmail.com From helga.schreiber at hotmail.com Fri Jul 5 19:57:57 2013 From: helga.schreiber at hotmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 15:57:57 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Suzanne, this is Helga. Could you tell me in what State are San Diego State University and Grossmont College located? Also, could you tell me in what years did discrimination occur to you while you were in the college and university? And if you can, could you give me a little more detailed about your 2013 semester? I will really appreciate it. Thanks and God bless!! :) -----Original Message----- From: Suzanne Germano Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 12:22 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment As I responded before I experienced discrimination form professors at San Diego State University and Grossmont College. At SDSU, I was speaking with a dean of the chemistry department about changing my major from computer science to computational science and he said to me "I cannot imagine any job you can do". I am low vision. i used large print, took my tests in the classroom in large print, used monocular to read the board and was getting As. None of that mattered. He felt because I had a visual impairment that I could not any job. At Grossmont College, I was in a certificate program for computer science and information systems. The program was limited to students with disabilities. We had our own high tech classroom with screen magnification, signers for the deaf students etc. We were each assigned a mentor form the Business Advisory Council who were part of the program so they knew every student had a disability. In my first conversation with my mentor he said, "I cant imagine you being able to get a job as a programmer if you can't see". I returned to school at ASU, Jan 2013 and in the courses I had, I did not have any discrimination. I have only had interactions with a few professors so far. Disabled student services seem to provide what I need. They will scan books for electronic or print out large print. The school tried to get the computer in the classroom equipped with MAGic but it crashed the program we were using so they they brought in a second monitor so I could have that monitor with windows magnification which absolutely sucks and the students in my group used the other screen at regular size. The professor I have now for a programming class remembers to bring all the in class assignments printed out large for me. If you want more detail let me know On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Helga Schreiber < helga.schreiber at hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > I just wanted to tell you that for my ENC 1102 class, I’m doing an > assignment called “Assignment for Research Plan and Bibliography” The > first > part of the assignment is to answer 8 questions regarding my topic in > order > to write my research plan before writing my draft of my research paper. > Remember when I told you before that my topic for my research paper is > “Exists Discrimination Against Visually Impaired College Students?” I > actually turned in the first draft of this assignment, on Monday July 1st, > but the final draft is due on Monday July 8. In fact, I asked my professor > after class last Monday, if I could send her my answers of my 8 questions, > in order for to provide me with some comments about them, and I actually > did so. In one of the questions she suggested if I could give testimonies > from other students in order to make my argument that I’m making strong. > Here are actually the 8 questions I need to answer for my research plan, > and underneath each questions are my answers with her comments. > Part I: The Research Plan [no word count specified; answer the questions > in as much detail as you can] > > > > Your research plan will address the following the issues: > > > > 1) What is your research question? Explain why your question is > appropriate for the length and complexity of the final research project. > > Does discrimination against visually impaired college students > exist? This question is appropriate for my final research project because > I > believe that discrimination occurs frequently in many places in our > country > and all around the world for visually impaired college students. > Discrimination exists for all disabled students, but I will focus > specifically on visually impaired college students due to the fact that > they are frequently not provided with the necessary accommodations, such > as > braille materials and technological support. Moreover, they are sometimes > rejected by sighted individuals, like administrators, educators, and > fellow > students. When considering how many issues visually impaired college > students face, this topic becomes very complex and requires a great deal > of > explanation. > > > > Comments on question 1: It seems like you’ve come to a conclusion about > the fact that visually impaired students are discriminated against. I > think > a better way to frame this issue would be to say that you’ve experienced > discrimination and you’d like to find out if what you’ve experienced is > common—if discrimination against the visually impaired in college exists > more widely than just your experience. > > 2) Why are you writing about this question or issue? What makes it > important to write about this issue now? What interests you in this issue? > [Think about kairos—making an argument at an opportune time.] > > The reason I’m writing about this issue is because I believe > visually impaired students and sighted students must have the same > opportunities and rights in order to accomplish their goals. This issue is > significant now because there is better technological support and human > resources, like Disability Support Services for these students than in the > past that are not being well utilized. Because I have firsthand > experiences regarding this issue, I am interested in advocating for better > understanding of the visually impaired students’ needs and learning > methods. > > Comments on question 2: looks good. > > 3) Do you have a personal connection to this issue? Could you use > this connection or experience as evidence or an emotional appeal in your > essay? > > I have a personal connection with this issue because I’m a visually > impaired student who is not receiving enough technological support from > Disability Support Services. For instance, the first way I learned to > study > was with braille; however, this method is not being given to me in an > adequate manner for books, class notes, tests and others materials even > though this is known by the Administration and Disability Support > Services. > I can use this difficult experience as an emotional appeal to strengthen > my > argument. > > Comments on question 3: Remember not to rely too heavily on just your > experience when you write the paper; your experiences are important, but > you need a lot more evidence to create a convincing argument. > > 4) What is your working thesis? [A working thesis is your tentative > answer to your research question. You can always change it as your > research > evolves.] Do you need to use any qualifiers with your thesis to ensure a > general audience would be likely to accept it? > > Discrimination against visually impaired college students truly > exists due to a lack of technological support and rejection by sighted > individuals, who do not thoroughly understand the challenges and > accommodations of these students. > > Comments on question 4: You might want to add a qualifier to this thesis. > Also, do you really think that all visually impaired students are > discriminated against? Just because PBSC isn’t doing a good enough job for > you doesn’t mean that other colleges and universities aren’t much better > at > addressing the needs of visually impaired students. You need to carefully > consider this point of view. > > 5) What sort of claim does your working thesis make? Is it one of > fact, definition, evaluation, causality, or proposal? > > The sort of claim that my working thesis is based upon is one of > evaluations about situations in which visually impaired students have been > affected by discrimination. > > Comments on question 5: Your question in number one seems to indicate that > this would be an argument of fact. > > 6) What sort of evidence are you basing your thesis on? What are you > reasons for reaching this conclusion? > > I’m basing my thesis on references of legal cases, personal > experiences and written articles about rights and laws that affect the > disabled persons. I think that everyone has equal opportunities as stated > in the Constitution of the United States and this extends into the college > environment. > > Comments on question 6: Looks good. > > 7) What assumptions are you making that allow you to connect your > working thesis with your reasons/evidence? Will an audience of general > readers likely accept the connection you’ve made between your evidence and > your thesis? [Basically, what is your warrant?] > > I make the assumption that administrators, support services and > students alike are not necessarily knowledgeable about the rights and laws > that institutions are required to follow. This is the source for many > conflicts between students and institutions when trying to provide > services > for their needs. > > Comment on 7: I think you’re also assuming that other students have > experienced what you’ve experienced. Also, as noted above, you assume that > all students regardless of disability status deserve the same access to > educational materials and effective teaching methods. > > 8) What sort of evidence do you need? What information will you be > looking for when you conduct your research? [Basically, what do you still > need to know?] > > I probably would need to know statistics, percentages, numbers of > cases solved, (or to be solved,) and also how they are getting solved. > > Comment on 8: I think you really need to take a look at how widespread > this problem is. It might be tough to find percentages, but testimony from > other students could be really important to your argument. > > > > Here are actually the questions with my answers. I was just wondering, > would it be possible for you to tell me what do you think of the > questions, > my answers, and my professor’s comments? Also, I just would like to ask > you, could you tell me some of your testimonies regarding the issue of > discrimination, and if you have experience it before during your college > years and even now in college right now, in order to use them as evidence > in my research paper? I will really appreciate it. And if you could > provide > me with some specific information, like for instance, the name of the > college or Univercity, and in what State is located that will be great! as > well. Thank you so much for listening to me and God bless! > > > > Sincerelly, Helga Schreiber > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40asu.edu > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber%40hotmail.com From helga.schreiber at hotmail.com Fri Jul 5 20:07:31 2013 From: helga.schreiber at hotmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 16:07:31 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Suzanne, this is Helga again! Also , I just forgot to ask you, what did you do, and how did you fight discrimination when they were doing that to you? Just curious. Thanks! and God bless! :) -----Original Message----- From: Suzanne Germano Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 12:22 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment As I responded before I experienced discrimination form professors at San Diego State University and Grossmont College. At SDSU, I was speaking with a dean of the chemistry department about changing my major from computer science to computational science and he said to me "I cannot imagine any job you can do". I am low vision. i used large print, took my tests in the classroom in large print, used monocular to read the board and was getting As. None of that mattered. He felt because I had a visual impairment that I could not any job. At Grossmont College, I was in a certificate program for computer science and information systems. The program was limited to students with disabilities. We had our own high tech classroom with screen magnification, signers for the deaf students etc. We were each assigned a mentor form the Business Advisory Council who were part of the program so they knew every student had a disability. In my first conversation with my mentor he said, "I cant imagine you being able to get a job as a programmer if you can't see". I returned to school at ASU, Jan 2013 and in the courses I had, I did not have any discrimination. I have only had interactions with a few professors so far. Disabled student services seem to provide what I need. They will scan books for electronic or print out large print. The school tried to get the computer in the classroom equipped with MAGic but it crashed the program we were using so they they brought in a second monitor so I could have that monitor with windows magnification which absolutely sucks and the students in my group used the other screen at regular size. The professor I have now for a programming class remembers to bring all the in class assignments printed out large for me. If you want more detail let me know On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Helga Schreiber < helga.schreiber at hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > I just wanted to tell you that for my ENC 1102 class, I’m doing an > assignment called “Assignment for Research Plan and Bibliography” The > first > part of the assignment is to answer 8 questions regarding my topic in > order > to write my research plan before writing my draft of my research paper. > Remember when I told you before that my topic for my research paper is > “Exists Discrimination Against Visually Impaired College Students?” I > actually turned in the first draft of this assignment, on Monday July 1st, > but the final draft is due on Monday July 8. In fact, I asked my professor > after class last Monday, if I could send her my answers of my 8 questions, > in order for to provide me with some comments about them, and I actually > did so. In one of the questions she suggested if I could give testimonies > from other students in order to make my argument that I’m making strong. > Here are actually the 8 questions I need to answer for my research plan, > and underneath each questions are my answers with her comments. > Part I: The Research Plan [no word count specified; answer the questions > in as much detail as you can] > > > > Your research plan will address the following the issues: > > > > 1) What is your research question? Explain why your question is > appropriate for the length and complexity of the final research project. > > Does discrimination against visually impaired college students > exist? This question is appropriate for my final research project because > I > believe that discrimination occurs frequently in many places in our > country > and all around the world for visually impaired college students. > Discrimination exists for all disabled students, but I will focus > specifically on visually impaired college students due to the fact that > they are frequently not provided with the necessary accommodations, such > as > braille materials and technological support. Moreover, they are sometimes > rejected by sighted individuals, like administrators, educators, and > fellow > students. When considering how many issues visually impaired college > students face, this topic becomes very complex and requires a great deal > of > explanation. > > > > Comments on question 1: It seems like you’ve come to a conclusion about > the fact that visually impaired students are discriminated against. I > think > a better way to frame this issue would be to say that you’ve experienced > discrimination and you’d like to find out if what you’ve experienced is > common—if discrimination against the visually impaired in college exists > more widely than just your experience. > > 2) Why are you writing about this question or issue? What makes it > important to write about this issue now? What interests you in this issue? > [Think about kairos—making an argument at an opportune time.] > > The reason I’m writing about this issue is because I believe > visually impaired students and sighted students must have the same > opportunities and rights in order to accomplish their goals. This issue is > significant now because there is better technological support and human > resources, like Disability Support Services for these students than in the > past that are not being well utilized. Because I have firsthand > experiences regarding this issue, I am interested in advocating for better > understanding of the visually impaired students’ needs and learning > methods. > > Comments on question 2: looks good. > > 3) Do you have a personal connection to this issue? Could you use > this connection or experience as evidence or an emotional appeal in your > essay? > > I have a personal connection with this issue because I’m a visually > impaired student who is not receiving enough technological support from > Disability Support Services. For instance, the first way I learned to > study > was with braille; however, this method is not being given to me in an > adequate manner for books, class notes, tests and others materials even > though this is known by the Administration and Disability Support > Services. > I can use this difficult experience as an emotional appeal to strengthen > my > argument. > > Comments on question 3: Remember not to rely too heavily on just your > experience when you write the paper; your experiences are important, but > you need a lot more evidence to create a convincing argument. > > 4) What is your working thesis? [A working thesis is your tentative > answer to your research question. You can always change it as your > research > evolves.] Do you need to use any qualifiers with your thesis to ensure a > general audience would be likely to accept it? > > Discrimination against visually impaired college students truly > exists due to a lack of technological support and rejection by sighted > individuals, who do not thoroughly understand the challenges and > accommodations of these students. > > Comments on question 4: You might want to add a qualifier to this thesis. > Also, do you really think that all visually impaired students are > discriminated against? Just because PBSC isn’t doing a good enough job for > you doesn’t mean that other colleges and universities aren’t much better > at > addressing the needs of visually impaired students. You need to carefully > consider this point of view. > > 5) What sort of claim does your working thesis make? Is it one of > fact, definition, evaluation, causality, or proposal? > > The sort of claim that my working thesis is based upon is one of > evaluations about situations in which visually impaired students have been > affected by discrimination. > > Comments on question 5: Your question in number one seems to indicate that > this would be an argument of fact. > > 6) What sort of evidence are you basing your thesis on? What are you > reasons for reaching this conclusion? > > I’m basing my thesis on references of legal cases, personal > experiences and written articles about rights and laws that affect the > disabled persons. I think that everyone has equal opportunities as stated > in the Constitution of the United States and this extends into the college > environment. > > Comments on question 6: Looks good. > > 7) What assumptions are you making that allow you to connect your > working thesis with your reasons/evidence? Will an audience of general > readers likely accept the connection you’ve made between your evidence and > your thesis? [Basically, what is your warrant?] > > I make the assumption that administrators, support services and > students alike are not necessarily knowledgeable about the rights and laws > that institutions are required to follow. This is the source for many > conflicts between students and institutions when trying to provide > services > for their needs. > > Comment on 7: I think you’re also assuming that other students have > experienced what you’ve experienced. Also, as noted above, you assume that > all students regardless of disability status deserve the same access to > educational materials and effective teaching methods. > > 8) What sort of evidence do you need? What information will you be > looking for when you conduct your research? [Basically, what do you still > need to know?] > > I probably would need to know statistics, percentages, numbers of > cases solved, (or to be solved,) and also how they are getting solved. > > Comment on 8: I think you really need to take a look at how widespread > this problem is. It might be tough to find percentages, but testimony from > other students could be really important to your argument. > > > > Here are actually the questions with my answers. I was just wondering, > would it be possible for you to tell me what do you think of the > questions, > my answers, and my professor’s comments? Also, I just would like to ask > you, could you tell me some of your testimonies regarding the issue of > discrimination, and if you have experience it before during your college > years and even now in college right now, in order to use them as evidence > in my research paper? I will really appreciate it. And if you could > provide > me with some specific information, like for instance, the name of the > college or Univercity, and in what State is located that will be great! as > well. Thank you so much for listening to me and God bless! > > > > Sincerelly, Helga Schreiber > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sgermano%40asu.edu > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber%40hotmail.com From herekittykat2 at gmail.com Fri Jul 5 23:13:01 2013 From: herekittykat2 at gmail.com (Jewel) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 19:13:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment In-Reply-To: References: <90175C3F-B0A2-46EF-AFE0-978DAE8A96A2@gmail.com> Message-ID: I began college at Wake Tech Community College in the fall of 2010, but had to drop from the first semester due to the Department of Services for the Blind here in Raleigh, North Carolina failing to provide essential assistive technology in time for use in that semester. The technology included a laptop, refreshable Braille display, and a Braille embosser from which to print needed textbooks and workbooks for use at home and in the classroom. I was left only with a slate and stylus to write notes, impossible for me because of a chronic pain disorder. This was all before I knew about the disability support office and what it can offer. I tried again the next semester with my assistive technology and the support of the DSO, but unfortunately had to drop again because of the onset of a grakrg-related emergency that put me in the hospital for two weeks. After recovering and resting, I tried once again in the fall of 2011, with the medically necessary accommodation of being considered full-time for rehabilitation purposes at three-quarter-time. I began with English 112, Intro to Psychology, and Pre-Algebra mathematics. For the literature and psychology classes, I needed no initial accommodation other than my books in an accessible format. The psychology book came from Bookshare, and even though the English book was available from Learning Ally, the college also scanned the book and provided it in Word documents so I could see spelling and note paragraph numbers, which they inserted by hand into the documents. For the math class, I was assigned a helper for the math lab homework, as the company website was mostly inaccessible. The reader would read the problem, wait for me to solve it, tutor me on the concepts if I couldn't solve the problem, and type my answer into the website. In class, I used a combination of Braille notes and a fumk-page slate and stylus to work problems as they were presented. I was helped to find a book on the Nemeth code to help with solving problems in math class. All of my tests were presented in either a Word document or Braille, and there was a competent assistant in the room to help with any problems students might have. I was given time and a half or double time depending on the test and the media used. For example, I was given double time when taking a test that involved Nemeth code because I was not very proficient in reading it. Other classes and other semesters were similar. Professors knew how to work with a blind student because the college had had workshops on the subject that professors could get continuing education credits for. They spoke what they wrote on the board, and provided accessible Powerpoints with descriptions of charts, graphs, and images. If they didn't have these accessible Powerpoints, DSO created them and I always received them at least a week prior to the actual lecture so I would be sure to have it by that time. Visual activities in Communications class and other classes were modified so I could participate. For example, an activity in Psychology class required labelling the parts of the brain on a picture. The professor made it an activity for groups, and brought in a realistic rubber model of the brain that separated into all of the main parts. As I explored this model, she told me what each section was and then had me put the brain back together and name the parts with my partner. Fast forward to the most difficult, in my opinion, classes to make accessible: two semesters of Biology, the first in microbiology and the second in grandmother macrobiology. For both classes, I was assigned a lab partner with experience in biology. For microbiology, I was given tactile images of the bell cells and bacteria that was presented to us in lab, along with verbal descriptions of the slide. I was expected, as were all the students, to learn how to use the microscope and handle slides. I did the work and my sighted assistant only provided verbal descriptions and ensured I had the right tactile image. The same was true for macrobiology, where I learned how to cut into a fetal pig and learned the organs by feel. My sighted assistant stood by to provide descriptions of color, placement, and full descriptions of organs too small to feel accurately. Again, I was provided tactile images to supplement and study by. I was also given audio descriptions during videos, and even cut out shapes handmade by DSO employees, such as a shape of a hip to identify gender markers. The only activity I didn't participate fully in was a visit to a nearby state park. I was unable to walk the trails with the other student's due to my physical limitations. The walk was over a mile and included climbing a tall and steep stairway, all at a very fast pace. Instead, I was given an assignment to research the park and its program's and answer questions based on a recording made of the park ranger during the class walk. I felt it was a fair and good alternative assignment. I have been very happy at my college and feel I was never discriminated against in any way. The school went beyond and above to ensure I and the other blind student's have an equal opportunity to succeed in their education. I feel that I would not have, without the help of the college's DSO, made it as far as I have. I am a member of Phi Beta Kappa, the community college honor society and have a 3.7 GPA. I feel I will continue to succeed at this college and have the same chance as any student's at the college to do so. Sorry about the length. If you have any questions, feel free to ask away. -Jewel Sent from my iPhone On Jul 5, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Helga Schreiber wrote: > Hi Jewel, this is helga. I just would like to ask you, do you mean testimonials that doesn't involve the issue of discrimination, and that talked about how visually impaired students receive the same treatment as sighted students? I think that is allright, and I would like to hear your experiences. But I was just wondering, have you ever experienced discrimination before in college, or do you know someone that has experience it during his or her college years, or even now in college? Just curious. Thanks! and God bless! > > -----Original Message----- From: Jewel > Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 7:22 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment > > Would testimonials that do not support your claim, ie that talk about the equal treatment a student experienced be also welcome? If so, I would be happy to write about my experiences. > -Jewel > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 5, 2013, at 2:18 AM, Helga Schreiber wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I just wanted to tell you that for my ENC 1102 class, I’m doing an assignment called “Assignment for Research Plan and Bibliography” The first part of the assignment is to answer 8 questions regarding my topic in order to write my research plan before writing my draft of my research paper. Remember when I told you before that my topic for my research paper is “Exists Discrimination Against Visually Impaired College Students?” I actually turned in the first draft of this assignment, on Monday July 1st, but the final draft is due on Monday July 8. In fact, I asked my professor after class last Monday, if I could send her my answers of my 8 questions, in order for to provide me with some comments about them, and I actually did so. In one of the questions she suggested if I could give testimonies from other students in order to make my argument that I’m making strong. Here are actually the 8 questions I need to answer for my research plan, and underneath each questions are my answers with her comments. >> Part I: The Research Plan [no word count specified; answer the questions in as much detail as you can] >> >> >> >> Your research plan will address the following the issues: >> >> >> >> 1) What is your research question? Explain why your question is appropriate for the length and complexity of the final research project. >> >> Does discrimination against visually impaired college students exist? This question is appropriate for my final research project because I believe that discrimination occurs frequently in many places in our country and all around the world for visually impaired college students. Discrimination exists for all disabled students, but I will focus specifically on visually impaired college students due to the fact that they are frequently not provided with the necessary accommodations, such as braille materials and technological support. Moreover, they are sometimes rejected by sighted individuals, like administrators, educators, and fellow students. When considering how many issues visually impaired college students face, this topic becomes very complex and requires a great deal of explanation. >> >> >> >> Comments on question 1: It seems like you’ve come to a conclusion about the fact that visually impaired students are discriminated against. I think a better way to frame this issue would be to say that you’ve experienced discrimination and you’d like to find out if what you’ve experienced is common—if discrimination against the visually impaired in college exists more widely than just your experience. >> >> 2) Why are you writing about this question or issue? What makes it important to write about this issue now? What interests you in this issue? [Think about kairos—making an argument at an opportune time.] >> >> The reason I’m writing about this issue is because I believe visually impaired students and sighted students must have the same opportunities and rights in order to accomplish their goals. This issue is significant now because there is better technological support and human resources, like Disability Support Services for these students than in the past that are not being well utilized. Because I have firsthand experiences regarding this issue, I am interested in advocating for better understanding of the visually impaired students’ needs and learning methods. >> >> Comments on question 2: looks good. >> >> 3) Do you have a personal connection to this issue? Could you use this connection or experience as evidence or an emotional appeal in your essay? >> >> I have a personal connection with this issue because I’m a visually impaired student who is not receiving enough technological support from Disability Support Services. For instance, the first way I learned to study was with braille; however, this method is not being given to me in an adequate manner for books, class notes, tests and others materials even though this is known by the Administration and Disability Support Services. I can use this difficult experience as an emotional appeal to strengthen my argument. >> >> Comments on question 3: Remember not to rely too heavily on just your experience when you write the paper; your experiences are important, but you need a lot more evidence to create a convincing argument. >> >> 4) What is your working thesis? [A working thesis is your tentative answer to your research question. You can always change it as your research evolves.] Do you need to use any qualifiers with your thesis to ensure a general audience would be likely to accept it? >> >> Discrimination against visually impaired college students truly exists due to a lack of technological support and rejection by sighted individuals, who do not thoroughly understand the challenges and accommodations of these students. >> >> Comments on question 4: You might want to add a qualifier to this thesis. Also, do you really think that all visually impaired students are discriminated against? Just because PBSC isn’t doing a good enough job for you doesn’t mean that other colleges and universities aren’t much better at addressing the needs of visually impaired students. You need to carefully consider this point of view. >> >> 5) What sort of claim does your working thesis make? Is it one of fact, definition, evaluation, causality, or proposal? >> >> The sort of claim that my working thesis is based upon is one of evaluations about situations in which visually impaired students have been affected by discrimination. >> >> Comments on question 5: Your question in number one seems to indicate that this would be an argument of fact. >> >> 6) What sort of evidence are you basing your thesis on? What are you reasons for reaching this conclusion? >> >> I’m basing my thesis on references of legal cases, personal experiences and written articles about rights and laws that affect the disabled persons. I think that everyone has equal opportunities as stated in the Constitution of the United States and this extends into the college environment. >> >> Comments on question 6: Looks good. >> >> 7) What assumptions are you making that allow you to connect your working thesis with your reasons/evidence? Will an audience of general readers likely accept the connection you’ve made between your evidence and your thesis? [Basically, what is your warrant?] >> >> I make the assumption that administrators, support services and students alike are not necessarily knowledgeable about the rights and laws that institutions are required to follow. This is the source for many conflicts between students and institutions when trying to provide services for their needs. >> >> Comment on 7: I think you’re also assuming that other students have experienced what you’ve experienced. Also, as noted above, you assume that all students regardless of disability status deserve the same access to educational materials and effective teaching methods. >> >> 8) What sort of evidence do you need? What information will you be looking for when you conduct your research? [Basically, what do you still need to know?] >> >> I probably would need to know statistics, percentages, numbers of cases solved, (or to be solved,) and also how they are getting solved. >> >> Comment on 8: I think you really need to take a look at how widespread this problem is. It might be tough to find percentages, but testimony from other students could be really important to your argument. >> >> >> >> Here are actually the questions with my answers. I was just wondering, would it be possible for you to tell me what do you think of the questions, my answers, and my professor’s comments? Also, I just would like to ask you, could you tell me some of your testimonies regarding the issue of discrimination, and if you have experience it before during your college years and even now in college right now, in order to use them as evidence in my research paper? I will really appreciate it. And if you could provide me with some specific information, like for instance, the name of the college or Univercity, and in what State is located that will be great! as well. Thank you so much for listening to me and God bless! >> >> >> >> Sincerelly, Helga Schreiber >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/herekittykat2%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/herekittykat2%40gmail.com From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Sat Jul 6 13:32:48 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 13:32:48 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! Message-ID: My WMP link isn't playing again. Thanks, Joshua From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Sat Jul 6 13:44:33 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 13:44:33 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I had to fix my settings! I caught the tale end of Kayleigh's speech! Good work with the BELL program! Blessings, Joshua ________________________________________ From: Joshua Lester Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:32 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: It's not playing again! My WMP link isn't playing again. Thanks, Joshua From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Sat Jul 6 14:14:28 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 14:14:28 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: It stopped again! Blessings, Joshua ________________________________________ From: Joshua Lester Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:44 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: RE: It's not playing again! I had to fix my settings! I caught the tale end of Kayleigh's speech! Good work with the BELL program! Blessings, Joshua ________________________________________ From: Joshua Lester Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:32 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: It's not playing again! My WMP link isn't playing again. Thanks, Joshua From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Sat Jul 6 15:27:16 2013 From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (christopher nusbaum) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 11:27:16 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <-5672454281743718414@unknownmsgid> I've gotten reports via Twitter that the audio of the stream is very low-quality. Sometimes the stream will stop to re-buffer. If it does this, just wait a minute and it should start playing again. If not, try closing your media player and reloading the stream. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > It stopped again! > Blessings, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: Joshua Lester > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:44 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: RE: It's not playing again! > > I had to fix my settings! > I caught the tale end of Kayleigh's speech! > Good work with the BELL program! > Blessings, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: Joshua Lester > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:32 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: It's not playing again! > > My WMP link isn't playing again. > Thanks, Joshua > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Sat Jul 6 15:35:31 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 15:35:31 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! In-Reply-To: <-5672454281743718414@unknownmsgid> References: , <-5672454281743718414@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: I think it would help if folks would turn off cell phones, and junk like that, which would compromise the sound! As a sound tech, I know these things! Blessings, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of christopher nusbaum [dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 10:27 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! I've gotten reports via Twitter that the audio of the stream is very low-quality. Sometimes the stream will stop to re-buffer. If it does this, just wait a minute and it should start playing again. If not, try closing your media player and reloading the stream. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > It stopped again! > Blessings, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: Joshua Lester > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:44 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: RE: It's not playing again! > > I had to fix my settings! > I caught the tale end of Kayleigh's speech! > Good work with the BELL program! > Blessings, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: Joshua Lester > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:32 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: It's not playing again! > > My WMP link isn't playing again. > Thanks, Joshua > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Sat Jul 6 17:39:30 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 17:39:30 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! Message-ID: For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? Thanks, Joshua From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Sat Jul 6 18:20:10 2013 From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (christopher nusbaum) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 14:20:10 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <-5444983129595909774@unknownmsgid> I'm not sure who it was, but Jordy Stringer told me that there was someone in the back of the room who was recording it and that the recording will be posted on YouTube and on the Performing Arts Division's Web site. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Joshua Lester wrote: > For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com From herekittykat2 at gmail.com Sat Jul 6 18:35:11 2013 From: herekittykat2 at gmail.com (Jewel) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 14:35:11 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! In-Reply-To: References: <-5672454281743718414@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: I know you are frustrated, Joshua, but most of the list is not interested in hearing when the convention stream stops working for a few minutes. There are known issues with the stream, and I doubt anyone on this list can fix those issues. Furthermore, posting one liners about the stream hiccuping is tiresome and annoying. One liners are bad enough, but one liners that are not on topic or relating to most people on this list is absurd. You are known for one liners, and it is getting very annoying. Please stop. Sincerely, Jewel Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:35 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > I think it would help if folks would turn off cell phones, and junk like that, which would compromise the sound! > As a sound tech, I know these things! > Blessings, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of christopher nusbaum [dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 10:27 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! > > I've gotten reports via Twitter that the audio of the stream is very > low-quality. Sometimes the stream will stop to re-buffer. If it does > this, just wait a minute and it should start playing again. If not, > try closing your media player and reloading the stream. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > >> It stopped again! >> Blessings, Joshua >> ________________________________________ >> From: Joshua Lester >> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:44 AM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Subject: RE: It's not playing again! >> >> I had to fix my settings! >> I caught the tale end of Kayleigh's speech! >> Good work with the BELL program! >> Blessings, Joshua >> ________________________________________ >> From: Joshua Lester >> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 8:32 AM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Subject: It's not playing again! >> >> My WMP link isn't playing again. >> Thanks, Joshua >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/herekittykat2%40gmail.com From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sat Jul 6 19:31:31 2013 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 15:31:31 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Joshua, If you're going to write, you might want to give more details so someone may be able to help. I am using what I believe is the latest windows media player. As I mentioned before, I, too, had problems with the windows media stream. But based on responses, everyone else heard it fine with other stream feeds like the itunes or ios one. I don't think the list is interested in every time it fails to not work. I appreciate the stream when I can hear it. I had better luck late morning and afternoon. I suggest the following steps to attempt to play it and if it doesn't work, maybe try calling the national office for tech support or if nothing else, listen to the archives of the convention later. Here is what to do. 1. If it doesn't play when you launch wmp, close the media player. 2. Click on the stream feed again to relaunch the player. 3. If it still has issues, restart the computer. 4. As someone else said, the stream may not be the highest quality. Simply waiting a few minutes when your player is open may help and it may solve its own problem. 5. Do other programs work within wmp? If not, it may be a problem with it. If so, you may want to reinstall or update your player. I was able to get the stream working on my third try of launching the media player. another idea is to use another feed for it such as itunes if you have itunes on your pc. Good luck. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Lester Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 9:32 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! My WMP link isn't playing again. Thanks, Joshua _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Sat Jul 6 19:32:30 2013 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 15:32:30 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EF472AF25814A8BA89ACD1DFBD59F99@OwnerPC> I have the same question. I'm hoping that someone will post a link to the recording once they return from convention. -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Lester Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:39 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? Thanks, Joshua _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Sun Jul 7 06:10:40 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 06:10:40 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! In-Reply-To: <3EF472AF25814A8BA89ACD1DFBD59F99@OwnerPC> References: , <3EF472AF25814A8BA89ACD1DFBD59F99@OwnerPC> Message-ID: Since the stram was acting up, I didn't get to hear the presentation by the scholarship winners! I want a recording of that too! They don't usually archive that! Thanks, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Ashley Bramlett [bookwormahb at earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:32 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! I have the same question. I'm hoping that someone will post a link to the recording once they return from convention. -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Lester Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:39 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? Thanks, Joshua _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Sun Jul 7 06:13:06 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 06:13:06 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Every time I'd start the stream back up, it would keep saying "Unavailable." I finally got tired of it stopping, and starting, so I gave up on it! BTW, my friends at the Pentecostals of Alixandria, LA, use a WMP stream, and it doesn't give me any trouble, so whatever the NFB's using for their streaming service, needs to change. Blessings, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Ashley Bramlett [bookwormahb at earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:31 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! Joshua, If you're going to write, you might want to give more details so someone may be able to help. I am using what I believe is the latest windows media player. As I mentioned before, I, too, had problems with the windows media stream. But based on responses, everyone else heard it fine with other stream feeds like the itunes or ios one. I don't think the list is interested in every time it fails to not work. I appreciate the stream when I can hear it. I had better luck late morning and afternoon. I suggest the following steps to attempt to play it and if it doesn't work, maybe try calling the national office for tech support or if nothing else, listen to the archives of the convention later. Here is what to do. 1. If it doesn't play when you launch wmp, close the media player. 2. Click on the stream feed again to relaunch the player. 3. If it still has issues, restart the computer. 4. As someone else said, the stream may not be the highest quality. Simply waiting a few minutes when your player is open may help and it may solve its own problem. 5. Do other programs work within wmp? If not, it may be a problem with it. If so, you may want to reinstall or update your player. I was able to get the stream working on my third try of launching the media player. another idea is to use another feed for it such as itunes if you have itunes on your pc. Good luck. Ashley -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Lester Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 9:32 AM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! My WMP link isn't playing again. Thanks, Joshua _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Sun Jul 7 06:15:39 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 06:15:39 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! In-Reply-To: <-5444983129595909774@unknownmsgid> References: , <-5444983129595909774@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: Awesome! Youtube? Wow! That's a first! Too bad noone recorded last year! Blessings, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of christopher nusbaum [dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:20 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! I'm not sure who it was, but Jordy Stringer told me that there was someone in the back of the room who was recording it and that the recording will be posted on YouTube and on the Performing Arts Division's Web site. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 6, 2013, at 1:40 PM, Joshua Lester wrote: > For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu From helga.schreiber at hotmail.com Sun Jul 7 06:46:12 2013 From: helga.schreiber at hotmail.com (Helga Schreiber) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 02:46:12 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment In-Reply-To: References: <90175C3F-B0A2-46EF-AFE0-978DAE8A96A2@gmail.com>

Message-ID: Hi Jewel, this is Helga. I just would like to ask you, Could you tell me your full name, and could you spell me your last name? I was just wondering, since I would like to use your testimony of your college experiences on the conclusion of my research paper as an example in order to show how colleges and univercities must act in providing necessaries accomodations for blind and visually impaired college students. I will really appreciate it. By the way, if you don't want me to use your name just let me know as well. Thanks and God bless! P.S. I forgot to ask you, are you still taking classes at your college, and what is your major that you are persuing? Just curious. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: Jewel Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 7:13 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment I began college at Wake Tech Community College in the fall of 2010, but had to drop from the first semester due to the Department of Services for the Blind here in Raleigh, North Carolina failing to provide essential assistive technology in time for use in that semester. The technology included a laptop, refreshable Braille display, and a Braille embosser from which to print needed textbooks and workbooks for use at home and in the classroom. I was left only with a slate and stylus to write notes, impossible for me because of a chronic pain disorder. This was all before I knew about the disability support office and what it can offer. I tried again the next semester with my assistive technology and the support of the DSO, but unfortunately had to drop again because of the onset of a grakrg-related emergency that put me in the hospital for two weeks. After recovering and resting, I tried once again in the fall of 2011, with the medically necessary accommodation of being considered full-time for rehabilitation purposes at three-quarter-time. I began with English 112, Intro to Psychology, and Pre-Algebra mathematics. For the literature and psychology classes, I needed no initial accommodation other than my books in an accessible format. The psychology book came from Bookshare, and even though the English book was available from Learning Ally, the college also scanned the book and provided it in Word documents so I could see spelling and note paragraph numbers, which they inserted by hand into the documents. For the math class, I was assigned a helper for the math lab homework, as the company website was mostly inaccessible. The reader would read the problem, wait for me to solve it, tutor me on the concepts if I couldn't solve the problem, and type my answer into the website. In class, I used a combination of Braille notes and a fumk-page slate and stylus to work problems as they were presented. I was helped to find a book on the Nemeth code to help with solving problems in math class. All of my tests were presented in either a Word document or Braille, and there was a competent assistant in the room to help with any problems students might have. I was given time and a half or double time depending on the test and the media used. For example, I was given double time when taking a test that involved Nemeth code because I was not very proficient in reading it. Other classes and other semesters were similar. Professors knew how to work with a blind student because the college had had workshops on the subject that professors could get continuing education credits for. They spoke what they wrote on the board, and provided accessible Powerpoints with descriptions of charts, graphs, and images. If they didn't have these accessible Powerpoints, DSO created them and I always received them at least a week prior to the actual lecture so I would be sure to have it by that time. Visual activities in Communications class and other classes were modified so I could participate. For example, an activity in Psychology class required labelling the parts of the brain on a picture. The professor made it an activity for groups, and brought in a realistic rubber model of the brain that separated into all of the main parts. As I explored this model, she told me what each section was and then had me put the brain back together and name the parts with my partner. Fast forward to the most difficult, in my opinion, classes to make accessible: two semesters of Biology, the first in microbiology and the second in grandmother macrobiology. For both classes, I was assigned a lab partner with experience in biology. For microbiology, I was given tactile images of the bell cells and bacteria that was presented to us in lab, along with verbal descriptions of the slide. I was expected, as were all the students, to learn how to use the microscope and handle slides. I did the work and my sighted assistant only provided verbal descriptions and ensured I had the right tactile image. The same was true for macrobiology, where I learned how to cut into a fetal pig and learned the organs by feel. My sighted assistant stood by to provide descriptions of color, placement, and full descriptions of organs too small to feel accurately. Again, I was provided tactile images to supplement and study by. I was also given audio descriptions during videos, and even cut out shapes handmade by DSO employees, such as a shape of a hip to identify gender markers. The only activity I didn't participate fully in was a visit to a nearby state park. I was unable to walk the trails with the other student's due to my physical limitations. The walk was over a mile and included climbing a tall and steep stairway, all at a very fast pace. Instead, I was given an assignment to research the park and its program's and answer questions based on a recording made of the park ranger during the class walk. I felt it was a fair and good alternative assignment. I have been very happy at my college and feel I was never discriminated against in any way. The school went beyond and above to ensure I and the other blind student's have an equal opportunity to succeed in their education. I feel that I would not have, without the help of the college's DSO, made it as far as I have. I am a member of Phi Beta Kappa, the community college honor society and have a 3.7 GPA. I feel I will continue to succeed at this college and have the same chance as any student's at the college to do so. Sorry about the length. If you have any questions, feel free to ask away. -Jewel Sent from my iPhone On Jul 5, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Helga Schreiber wrote: > Hi Jewel, this is helga. I just would like to ask you, do you mean > testimonials that doesn't involve the issue of discrimination, and that > talked about how visually impaired students receive the same treatment as > sighted students? I think that is allright, and I would like to hear your > experiences. But I was just wondering, have you ever experienced > discrimination before in college, or do you know someone that has > experience it during his or her college years, or even now in college? > Just curious. Thanks! and God bless! > > -----Original Message----- From: Jewel > Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 7:22 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment > > Would testimonials that do not support your claim, ie that talk about the > equal treatment a student experienced be also welcome? If so, I would be > happy to write about my experiences. > -Jewel > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 5, 2013, at 2:18 AM, Helga Schreiber > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> I just wanted to tell you that for my ENC 1102 class, I’m doing an >> assignment called “Assignment for Research Plan and Bibliography” The >> first part of the assignment is to answer 8 questions regarding my topic >> in order to write my research plan before writing my draft of my research >> paper. Remember when I told you before that my topic for my research >> paper is “Exists Discrimination Against Visually Impaired College >> Students?” I actually turned in the first draft of this assignment, on >> Monday July 1st, but the final draft is due on Monday July 8. In fact, I >> asked my professor after class last Monday, if I could send her my >> answers of my 8 questions, in order for to provide me with some comments >> about them, and I actually did so. In one of the questions she suggested >> if I could give testimonies from other students in order to make my >> argument that I’m making strong. Here are actually the 8 questions I need >> to answer for my research plan, and underneath each questions are my >> answers with her comments. >> Part I: The Research Plan [no word count specified; answer the questions >> in as much detail as you can] >> >> >> >> Your research plan will address the following the issues: >> >> >> >> 1) What is your research question? Explain why your question is >> appropriate for the length and complexity of the final research project. >> >> Does discrimination against visually impaired college students >> exist? This question is appropriate for my final research project because >> I believe that discrimination occurs frequently in many places in our >> country and all around the world for visually impaired college students. >> Discrimination exists for all disabled students, but I will focus >> specifically on visually impaired college students due to the fact that >> they are frequently not provided with the necessary accommodations, such >> as braille materials and technological support. Moreover, they are >> sometimes rejected by sighted individuals, like administrators, >> educators, and fellow students. When considering how many issues visually >> impaired college students face, this topic becomes very complex and >> requires a great deal of explanation. >> >> >> >> Comments on question 1: It seems like you’ve come to a conclusion about >> the fact that visually impaired students are discriminated against. I >> think a better way to frame this issue would be to say that you’ve >> experienced discrimination and you’d like to find out if what you’ve >> experienced is common—if discrimination against the visually impaired in >> college exists more widely than just your experience. >> >> 2) Why are you writing about this question or issue? What makes it >> important to write about this issue now? What interests you in this >> issue? [Think about kairos—making an argument at an opportune time.] >> >> The reason I’m writing about this issue is because I believe >> visually impaired students and sighted students must have the same >> opportunities and rights in order to accomplish their goals. This issue >> is significant now because there is better technological support and >> human resources, like Disability Support Services for these students than >> in the past that are not being well utilized. Because I have firsthand >> experiences regarding this issue, I am interested in advocating for >> better understanding of the visually impaired students’ needs and >> learning methods. >> >> Comments on question 2: looks good. >> >> 3) Do you have a personal connection to this issue? Could you use >> this connection or experience as evidence or an emotional appeal in your >> essay? >> >> I have a personal connection with this issue because I’m a visually >> impaired student who is not receiving enough technological support from >> Disability Support Services. For instance, the first way I learned to >> study was with braille; however, this method is not being given to me in >> an adequate manner for books, class notes, tests and others materials >> even though this is known by the Administration and Disability Support >> Services. I can use this difficult experience as an emotional appeal to >> strengthen my argument. >> >> Comments on question 3: Remember not to rely too heavily on just your >> experience when you write the paper; your experiences are important, but >> you need a lot more evidence to create a convincing argument. >> >> 4) What is your working thesis? [A working thesis is your tentative >> answer to your research question. You can always change it as your >> research evolves.] Do you need to use any qualifiers with your thesis to >> ensure a general audience would be likely to accept it? >> >> Discrimination against visually impaired college students truly >> exists due to a lack of technological support and rejection by sighted >> individuals, who do not thoroughly understand the challenges and >> accommodations of these students. >> >> Comments on question 4: You might want to add a qualifier to this thesis. >> Also, do you really think that all visually impaired students are >> discriminated against? Just because PBSC isn’t doing a good enough job >> for you doesn’t mean that other colleges and universities aren’t much >> better at addressing the needs of visually impaired students. You need >> to carefully consider this point of view. >> >> 5) What sort of claim does your working thesis make? Is it one of >> fact, definition, evaluation, causality, or proposal? >> >> The sort of claim that my working thesis is based upon is one of >> evaluations about situations in which visually impaired students have >> been affected by discrimination. >> >> Comments on question 5: Your question in number one seems to indicate >> that this would be an argument of fact. >> >> 6) What sort of evidence are you basing your thesis on? What are you >> reasons for reaching this conclusion? >> >> I’m basing my thesis on references of legal cases, personal >> experiences and written articles about rights and laws that affect the >> disabled persons. I think that everyone has equal opportunities as stated >> in the Constitution of the United States and this extends into the >> college environment. >> >> Comments on question 6: Looks good. >> >> 7) What assumptions are you making that allow you to connect your >> working thesis with your reasons/evidence? Will an audience of general >> readers likely accept the connection you’ve made between your evidence >> and your thesis? [Basically, what is your warrant?] >> >> I make the assumption that administrators, support services and >> students alike are not necessarily knowledgeable about the rights and >> laws that institutions are required to follow. This is the source for >> many conflicts between students and institutions when trying to provide >> services for their needs. >> >> Comment on 7: I think you’re also assuming that other students have >> experienced what you’ve experienced. Also, as noted above, you assume >> that all students regardless of disability status deserve the same access >> to educational materials and effective teaching methods. >> >> 8) What sort of evidence do you need? What information will you be >> looking for when you conduct your research? [Basically, what do you still >> need to know?] >> >> I probably would need to know statistics, percentages, numbers of >> cases solved, (or to be solved,) and also how they are getting solved. >> >> Comment on 8: I think you really need to take a look at how widespread >> this problem is. It might be tough to find percentages, but testimony >> from other students could be really important to your argument. >> >> >> >> Here are actually the questions with my answers. I was just wondering, >> would it be possible for you to tell me what do you think of the >> questions, my answers, and my professor’s comments? Also, I just would >> like to ask you, could you tell me some of your testimonies regarding the >> issue of discrimination, and if you have experience it before during your >> college years and even now in college right now, in order to use them as >> evidence in my research paper? I will really appreciate it. And if you >> could provide me with some specific information, like for instance, the >> name of the college or Univercity, and in what State is located that will >> be great! as well. Thank you so much for listening to me and God bless! >> >> >> >> Sincerelly, Helga Schreiber >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/herekittykat2%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/herekittykat2%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber%40hotmail.com From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Sun Jul 7 12:05:42 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 12:05:42 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] The Electronic Brailler! Message-ID: http://www.ebrailler.com It's finally out! What are your thoughts? I liked the prototype that David showed me in 2010! Thanks, Joshua From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Sun Jul 7 12:09:14 2013 From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (christopher nusbaum) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 08:09:14 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] The Electronic Brailler! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <-8726860014731937719@unknownmsgid> There was a presentation done about this at convention, and it seems pretty cool. I think this will serve as a great tool for braille education, as teachers will be able to see what their students are writing even if they are a little slow in braille. This may also be a good tool to illuminate the need for specialized braille transcribers. Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > http://www.ebrailler.com > It's finally out! > What are your thoughts? > I liked the prototype that David showed me in 2010! > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com From sweetpeareader at gmail.com Sun Jul 7 12:35:42 2013 From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (Sophie Trist) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 08:35:42 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] The Electronic Brailler! In-Reply-To: <-8726860014731937719@unknownmsgid> References: <-8726860014731937719@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <752D8FD7-B507-48FD-A525-3842D78D598F@gmail.com> Also it allows for long-distance learning, which is a big step for Braille. This may help with the TVI shortage, allowing more teachers to reach more students. Sophie Trist Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:09 AM, christopher nusbaum wrote: > There was a presentation done about this at convention, and it seems > pretty cool. I think this will serve as a great tool for braille > education, as teachers will be able to see what their students are > writing even if they are a little slow in braille. This may also be a > good tool to illuminate the need for specialized braille transcribers. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > >> http://www.ebrailler.com >> It's finally out! >> What are your thoughts? >> I liked the prototype that David showed me in 2010! >> Thanks, Joshua >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sweetpeareader%40gmail.com From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Sun Jul 7 12:45:52 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 12:45:52 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] The Electronic Brailler! In-Reply-To: <752D8FD7-B507-48FD-A525-3842D78D598F@gmail.com> References: <-8726860014731937719@unknownmsgid>, <752D8FD7-B507-48FD-A525-3842D78D598F@gmail.com> Message-ID: Not only that, but in my community college, we have instructors on the other two campuses, that teach compressed video classes, so for them to be able to get this on all three campuses, would enable them to send a blind student, on another campus, the same material in Braille! This is awesome! Blessings, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Sophie Trist [sweetpeareader at gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 7:35 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] The Electronic Brailler! Also it allows for long-distance learning, which is a big step for Braille. This may help with the TVI shortage, allowing more teachers to reach more students. Sophie Trist Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:09 AM, christopher nusbaum wrote: > There was a presentation done about this at convention, and it seems > pretty cool. I think this will serve as a great tool for braille > education, as teachers will be able to see what their students are > writing even if they are a little slow in braille. This may also be a > good tool to illuminate the need for specialized braille transcribers. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > >> http://www.ebrailler.com >> It's finally out! >> What are your thoughts? >> I liked the prototype that David showed me in 2010! >> Thanks, Joshua >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/sweetpeareader%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccuaedu.onmicrosoft.com From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Sun Jul 7 15:11:20 2013 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 11:11:20 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: hello Joshua, I am sure that everyone knows by now that the internet stream of the convention is not perfect. However, your numerous complaints about it on this email list are definitely not appreciated. From what I understand, everyone else who has been listening to the online stream of the convention have experienced the exact same problems as you. However, no one on this email list has the authority or ability to do anything to fix any of the problems associated with the stream. Therefore, I would advise you to either enjoy what you are able to hear through the stream, and be grateful that it is provided in the first place, or make a better effort to be there in person so you do not have to put up with the difficulties associated with the online streaming of the convention. it seems to me that streaming the convention online is not necessarily a priority for the organization, so there is a possibility it may never be perfect. So either enjoy what you can from the online stream, or make a better effort to be there in person. Elizabeth -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joshua Lester" Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2013 2:13 AM To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" Subject: Re: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! > Every time I'd start the stream back up, it would keep saying > "Unavailable." > I finally got tired of it stopping, and starting, so I gave up on it! > BTW, my friends at the Pentecostals of Alixandria, LA, use a WMP stream, > and it doesn't give me any trouble, so whatever the NFB's using for their > streaming service, needs to change. > Blessings, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Ashley Bramlett > [bookwormahb at earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:31 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! > > Joshua, > If you're going to write, you might want to give more details so someone > may > be able to help. > I am using what I believe is the latest windows media player. > > > As I mentioned before, I, too, had problems with the windows media stream. > But based on responses, everyone else heard it fine with other stream > feeds > like the itunes or ios one. > > I don't think the list is interested in every time it fails to not work. > I appreciate the stream when I can hear it. I had better luck late morning > and afternoon. > > I suggest the following steps to attempt to play it and if it doesn't > work, > maybe try calling the national office for tech support or if nothing else, > listen to the archives of the convention later. > > Here is what to do. > 1. If it doesn't play when you launch wmp, close the media player. > 2. Click on the stream feed again to relaunch the player. > 3. If it still has issues, restart the computer. > 4. As someone else said, the stream may not be the highest quality. Simply > waiting a few minutes when your player is open may help and it may solve > its > own problem. > 5. Do other programs work within wmp? If not, it may be a problem with it. > If so, you may want to reinstall or update your player. > > I was able to get the stream working on my third try of launching the > media > player. another idea is to use another feed for it such as itunes if you > have itunes on your pc. > > Good luck. > > Ashley > -----Original Message----- > From: Joshua Lester > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 9:32 AM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] It's not playing again! > > My WMP link isn't playing again. > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com > From herekittykat2 at gmail.com Sun Jul 7 16:47:05 2013 From: herekittykat2 at gmail.com (Jewel) Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 12:47:05 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment In-Reply-To: References: <90175C3F-B0A2-46EF-AFE0-978DAE8A96A2@gmail.com>

Message-ID: <29F184F4-C6D3-40DE-B6D0-0D07FBF8B056@gmail.com> My legal name is Amber Shuping. I don't mind you using it in your paper. Yes, I am still taking classes at this school, with an intended degree of a Transfer Associate's of Arts. When I transfer, my degree will be Special Education, with the intention of continuing school to obtain a Master's in Special Education of the Blind. -Jewel Sent from my iPhone On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:46 AM, Helga Schreiber wrote: > Hi Jewel, this is Helga. I just would like to ask you, Could you tell me your full name, and could you spell me your last name? I was just wondering, since I would like to use your testimony of your college experiences on the conclusion of my research paper as an example in order to show how colleges and univercities must act in providing necessaries accomodations for blind and visually impaired college students. I will really appreciate it. By the way, if you don't want me to use your name just let me know as well. Thanks and God bless! > P.S. I forgot to ask you, are you still taking classes at your college, and what is your major that you are persuing? Just curious. Thanks! > > -----Original Message----- From: Jewel > Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 7:13 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment > > I began college at Wake Tech Community College in the fall of 2010, but had to drop from the first semester due to the Department of Services for the Blind here in Raleigh, North Carolina failing to provide essential assistive technology in time for use in that semester. The technology included a laptop, refreshable Braille display, and a Braille embosser from which to print needed textbooks and workbooks for use at home and in the classroom. I was left only with a slate and stylus to write notes, impossible for me because of a chronic pain disorder. This was all before I knew about the disability support office and what it can offer. > I tried again the next semester with my assistive technology and the support of the DSO, but unfortunately had to drop again because of the onset of a grakrg-related emergency that put me in the hospital for two weeks. > After recovering and resting, I tried once again in the fall of 2011, with the medically necessary accommodation of being considered full-time for rehabilitation purposes at three-quarter-time. I began with English 112, Intro to Psychology, and Pre-Algebra mathematics. For the literature and psychology classes, I needed no initial accommodation other than my books in an accessible format. The psychology book came from Bookshare, and even though the English book was available from Learning Ally, the college also scanned the book and provided it in Word documents so I could see spelling and note paragraph numbers, which they inserted by hand into the documents. For the math class, I was assigned a helper for the math lab homework, as the company website was mostly inaccessible. The reader would read the problem, wait for me to solve it, tutor me on the concepts if I couldn't solve the problem, and type my answer into the website. In class, I used a combination of Braille notes and a fumk-page slate and stylus to work problems as they were presented. I was helped to find a book on the Nemeth code to help with solving problems in math class. > All of my tests were presented in either a Word document or Braille, and there was a competent assistant in the room to help with any problems students might have. I was given time and a half or double time depending on the test and the media used. For example, I was given double time when taking a test that involved Nemeth code because I was not very proficient in reading it. > Other classes and other semesters were similar. Professors knew how to work with a blind student because the college had had workshops on the subject that professors could get continuing education credits for. They spoke what they wrote on the board, and provided accessible Powerpoints with descriptions of charts, graphs, and images. If they didn't have these accessible Powerpoints, DSO created them and I always received them at least a week prior to the actual lecture so I would be sure to have it by that time. Visual activities in Communications class and other classes were modified so I could participate. For example, an activity in Psychology class required labelling the parts of the brain on a picture. The professor made it an activity for groups, and brought in a realistic rubber model of the brain that separated into all of the main parts. As I explored this model, she told me what each section was and then had me put the brain back together and name the parts with my partner. > Fast forward to the most difficult, in my opinion, classes to make accessible: two semesters of Biology, the first in microbiology and the second in grandmother macrobiology. For both classes, I was assigned a lab partner with experience in biology. For microbiology, I was given tactile images of the bell cells and bacteria that was presented to us in lab, along with verbal descriptions of the slide. I was expected, as were all the students, to learn how to use the microscope and handle slides. I did the work and my sighted assistant only provided verbal descriptions and ensured I had the right tactile image. The same was true for macrobiology, where I learned how to cut into a fetal pig and learned the organs by feel. My sighted assistant stood by to provide descriptions of color, placement, and full descriptions of organs too small to feel accurately. Again, I was provided tactile images to supplement and study by. I was also given audio descriptions during videos, and even cut out shapes handmade by DSO employees, such as a shape of a hip to identify gender markers. The only activity I didn't participate fully in was a visit to a nearby state park. I was unable to walk the trails with the other student's due to my physical limitations. The walk was over a mile and included climbing a tall and steep stairway, all at a very fast pace. Instead, I was given an assignment to research the park and its program's and answer questions based on a recording made of the park ranger during the class walk. I felt it was a fair and good alternative assignment. > I have been very happy at my college and feel I was never discriminated against in any way. The school went beyond and above to ensure I and the other blind student's have an equal opportunity to succeed in their education. I feel that I would not have, without the help of the college's DSO, made it as far as I have. I am a member of Phi Beta Kappa, the community college honor society and have a 3.7 GPA. I feel I will continue to succeed at this college and have the same chance as any student's at the college to do so. > Sorry about the length. If you have any questions, feel free to ask away. > -Jewel > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 5, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Helga Schreiber wrote: > >> Hi Jewel, this is helga. I just would like to ask you, do you mean testimonials that doesn't involve the issue of discrimination, and that talked about how visually impaired students receive the same treatment as sighted students? I think that is allright, and I would like to hear your experiences. But I was just wondering, have you ever experienced discrimination before in college, or do you know someone that has experience it during his or her college years, or even now in college? Just curious. Thanks! and God bless! >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Jewel >> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 7:22 AM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] ENC 1102 Class, Research Paper Assignment >> >> Would testimonials that do not support your claim, ie that talk about the equal treatment a student experienced be also welcome? If so, I would be happy to write about my experiences. >> -Jewel >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jul 5, 2013, at 2:18 AM, Helga Schreiber wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> I just wanted to tell you that for my ENC 1102 class, I’m doing an assignment called “Assignment for Research Plan and Bibliography” The first part of the assignment is to answer 8 questions regarding my topic in order to write my research plan before writing my draft of my research paper. Remember when I told you before that my topic for my research paper is “Exists Discrimination Against Visually Impaired College Students?” I actually turned in the first draft of this assignment, on Monday July 1st, but the final draft is due on Monday July 8. In fact, I asked my professor after class last Monday, if I could send her my answers of my 8 questions, in order for to provide me with some comments about them, and I actually did so. In one of the questions she suggested if I could give testimonies from other students in order to make my argument that I’m making strong. Here are actually the 8 questions I need to answer for my research plan, and underneath each questions are my answers with her comments. >>> Part I: The Research Plan [no word count specified; answer the questions in as much detail as you can] >>> >>> >>> >>> Your research plan will address the following the issues: >>> >>> >>> >>> 1) What is your research question? Explain why your question is appropriate for the length and complexity of the final research project. >>> >>> Does discrimination against visually impaired college students exist? This question is appropriate for my final research project because I believe that discrimination occurs frequently in many places in our country and all around the world for visually impaired college students. Discrimination exists for all disabled students, but I will focus specifically on visually impaired college students due to the fact that they are frequently not provided with the necessary accommodations, such as braille materials and technological support. Moreover, they are sometimes rejected by sighted individuals, like administrators, educators, and fellow students. When considering how many issues visually impaired college students face, this topic becomes very complex and requires a great deal of explanation. >>> >>> >>> >>> Comments on question 1: It seems like you’ve come to a conclusion about the fact that visually impaired students are discriminated against. I think a better way to frame this issue would be to say that you’ve experienced discrimination and you’d like to find out if what you’ve experienced is common—if discrimination against the visually impaired in college exists more widely than just your experience. >>> >>> 2) Why are you writing about this question or issue? What makes it important to write about this issue now? What interests you in this issue? [Think about kairos—making an argument at an opportune time.] >>> >>> The reason I’m writing about this issue is because I believe visually impaired students and sighted students must have the same opportunities and rights in order to accomplish their goals. This issue is significant now because there is better technological support and human resources, like Disability Support Services for these students than in the past that are not being well utilized. Because I have firsthand experiences regarding this issue, I am interested in advocating for better understanding of the visually impaired students’ needs and learning methods. >>> >>> Comments on question 2: looks good. >>> >>> 3) Do you have a personal connection to this issue? Could you use this connection or experience as evidence or an emotional appeal in your essay? >>> >>> I have a personal connection with this issue because I’m a visually impaired student who is not receiving enough technological support from Disability Support Services. For instance, the first way I learned to study was with braille; however, this method is not being given to me in an adequate manner for books, class notes, tests and others materials even though this is known by the Administration and Disability Support Services. I can use this difficult experience as an emotional appeal to strengthen my argument. >>> >>> Comments on question 3: Remember not to rely too heavily on just your experience when you write the paper; your experiences are important, but you need a lot more evidence to create a convincing argument. >>> >>> 4) What is your working thesis? [A working thesis is your tentative answer to your research question. You can always change it as your research evolves.] Do you need to use any qualifiers with your thesis to ensure a general audience would be likely to accept it? >>> >>> Discrimination against visually impaired college students truly exists due to a lack of technological support and rejection by sighted individuals, who do not thoroughly understand the challenges and accommodations of these students. >>> >>> Comments on question 4: You might want to add a qualifier to this thesis. Also, do you really think that all visually impaired students are discriminated against? Just because PBSC isn’t doing a good enough job for you doesn’t mean that other colleges and universities aren’t much better at addressing the needs of visually impaired students. You need to carefully consider this point of view. >>> >>> 5) What sort of claim does your working thesis make? Is it one of fact, definition, evaluation, causality, or proposal? >>> >>> The sort of claim that my working thesis is based upon is one of evaluations about situations in which visually impaired students have been affected by discrimination. >>> >>> Comments on question 5: Your question in number one seems to indicate that this would be an argument of fact. >>> >>> 6) What sort of evidence are you basing your thesis on? What are you reasons for reaching this conclusion? >>> >>> I’m basing my thesis on references of legal cases, personal experiences and written articles about rights and laws that affect the disabled persons. I think that everyone has equal opportunities as stated in the Constitution of the United States and this extends into the college environment. >>> >>> Comments on question 6: Looks good. >>> >>> 7) What assumptions are you making that allow you to connect your working thesis with your reasons/evidence? Will an audience of general readers likely accept the connection you’ve made between your evidence and your thesis? [Basically, what is your warrant?] >>> >>> I make the assumption that administrators, support services and students alike are not necessarily knowledgeable about the rights and laws that institutions are required to follow. This is the source for many conflicts between students and institutions when trying to provide services for their needs. >>> >>> Comment on 7: I think you’re also assuming that other students have experienced what you’ve experienced. Also, as noted above, you assume that all students regardless of disability status deserve the same access to educational materials and effective teaching methods. >>> >>> 8) What sort of evidence do you need? What information will you be looking for when you conduct your research? [Basically, what do you still need to know?] >>> >>> I probably would need to know statistics, percentages, numbers of cases solved, (or to be solved,) and also how they are getting solved. >>> >>> Comment on 8: I think you really need to take a look at how widespread this problem is. It might be tough to find percentages, but testimony from other students could be really important to your argument. >>> >>> >>> >>> Here are actually the questions with my answers. I was just wondering, would it be possible for you to tell me what do you think of the questions, my answers, and my professor’s comments? Also, I just would like to ask you, could you tell me some of your testimonies regarding the issue of discrimination, and if you have experience it before during your college years and even now in college right now, in order to use them as evidence in my research paper? I will really appreciate it. And if you could provide me with some specific information, like for instance, the name of the college or Univercity, and in what State is located that will be great! as well. Thank you so much for listening to me and God bless! >>> >>> >>> >>> Sincerelly, Helga Schreiber >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/herekittykat2%40gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber%40hotmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/herekittykat2%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/helga.schreiber%40hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/herekittykat2%40gmail.com From steve.jacobson at visi.com Sun Jul 7 21:36:38 2013 From: steve.jacobson at visi.com (Steve Jacobson) Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 16:36:38 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] The Electronic Brailler! In-Reply-To: <-8726860014731937719@unknownmsgid> References: <-8726860014731937719@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <20130707125631.FBE8.787A7A2@visi.com> I saw the Electronic Brailler, too, and it has some possibilities. It takes advantage of the Duxbury Braille Translator, so that will help to get translated braille into the hands of kids without requiring a braillist, but no braille translator will do a perfect job with formatting, so some knowledge of that is likely still going to be needed, as will the need for making raised line drawings of some coursework. While the machine is apparently coming out soon, I was told that they are still making refinements to the braille embossing mechanism. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 08:09:14 -0400 christopher nusbaum wrote: > There was a presentation done about this at convention, and it seems > pretty cool. I think this will serve as a great tool for braille > education, as teachers will be able to see what their students are > writing even if they are a little slow in braille. This may also be a > good tool to illuminate the need for specialized braille transcribers. > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:06 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > > > http://www.ebrailler.com > > It's finally out! > > What are your thoughts? > > I liked the prototype that David showed me in 2010! > > Thanks, Joshua > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nabs-l mailing list > > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/steve.jacobson%40visi.com -- <> From djd76257 at gmail.com Mon Jul 8 21:49:46 2013 From: djd76257 at gmail.com (David Dunphy) Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 17:49:46 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] The Djd Invasion Celebbrates My Girlfriennd's Birthday Tonight And You're Invited Message-ID: <1576D0F9E4254676972D9DD918DB11CC@WildJasmine> Hi All! Come celebrate witth me on The Djd Invasion as I present a 120 minute birthday party/djd invasion show for my beautiful girlfriend Amanda. We'll be playing upbeat music as well, and playing the top ten ssongs from the day she was born, July 8 1984. So instead of doing a This Day On Chart History afterwards, we'll be playing the songs throughout the show. If you'd like to send a special birthday wish to Amanda, either attach an mp3 or wave file and send it to thedjdinvasion at audioaccess.fm or call me up at 832-992-8883 press 4, then 2, and leave your message. All birthday messages will be played during the show. And if, during the show, you'd like to contact us, you can either Email me at thedjdinvasion at audioaccess.fm Skype in at audioaccess.fm or call us up at 516-324-2552 I will aalso be making some announcements during the show about the exciting summer events that will be taking place at Audio Access FM. So to be part of some birthday fun, great music, and more, tune in between 8 and 10 PM eastern to http://www.audioaccess.fm/broadband.php or listen in by phone by calling 1-213-992-4393 Hope to see you there as we celebrate that special day; the day of a birth, Amanda's birthday! See you tonight! >From David From brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 21:16:24 2013 From: brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com (Brandon Keith Biggs) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 14:16:24 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Creating Newsletters for my Student Club Message-ID: Hello, I am wondering if anyone knows how to create a newsletter? I need some way to email everyone in the list of email addresses I have for my Club. I have a Facebook fan page and group, but I can’t find any way to send emails with my Facebook email. The school only gives us an email that people can send messages to that are rerouted to my email address. This is all fine and dandy, but really isn’t any use. I was thinking of creating a listsirve, but I couldn’t figure out Gmail and Freelists is only for technology. I think an email list is a little overkill for what I want to do though. If anyone has any ideas please let me know. Thank you, -- Brandon Keith Biggs From minh.ha927 at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 22:47:37 2013 From: minh.ha927 at gmail.com (minh ha) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 18:47:37 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Creating Newsletters for my Student Club In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Brandon, Can't you just send a mass email to the email addresses that you have? If privacy is a concern, you can just BCC the email. Thanks, Minh On 7/9/13, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote: > Hello, > I am wondering if anyone knows how to create a newsletter? I need some > way to email everyone in the list of email addresses I have for my > Club. I have a Facebook fan page and group, but I can’t find any way > to send emails with my Facebook email. The school only gives us an > email that people can send messages to that are rerouted to my email > address. This is all fine and dandy, but really isn’t any use. > I was thinking of creating a listsirve, but I couldn’t figure out > Gmail and Freelists is only for technology. I think an email list is a > little overkill for what I want to do though. If anyone has any ideas > please let me know. > Thank you, > > > -- > Brandon Keith Biggs > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/minh.ha927%40gmail.com > -- "All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence From brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com Tue Jul 9 23:03:15 2013 From: brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com (Brandon Keith Biggs) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 16:03:15 -0700 Subject: [nabs-l] Creating Newsletters for my Student Club In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hello, I would like to stay away from using my personal address and setup some kind of club spicific thing. I can totally create an extra Gmail account, but I am not sure if that is the best option. I already have a facebook fanpage, group and if I can use what I have, it would be best. Thank you, On 7/9/13, minh ha wrote: > Hey Brandon, > Can't you just send a mass email to the email addresses that you have? > If privacy is a concern, you can just BCC the email. > Thanks, > Minh > > On 7/9/13, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote: >> Hello, >> I am wondering if anyone knows how to create a newsletter? I need some >> way to email everyone in the list of email addresses I have for my >> Club. I have a Facebook fan page and group, but I can’t find any way >> to send emails with my Facebook email. The school only gives us an >> email that people can send messages to that are rerouted to my email >> address. This is all fine and dandy, but really isn’t any use. >> I was thinking of creating a listsirve, but I couldn’t figure out >> Gmail and Freelists is only for technology. I think an email list is a >> little overkill for what I want to do though. If anyone has any ideas >> please let me know. >> Thank you, >> >> >> -- >> Brandon Keith Biggs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/minh.ha927%40gmail.com >> > > > -- > "All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty > recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: > but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on > their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/brandonkeithbiggs%40gmail.com > -- Brandon Keith Biggs From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com Wed Jul 10 00:43:47 2013 From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (christopher nusbaum) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 19:43:47 -0500 Subject: [nabs-l] Creating Newsletters for my Student Club In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <-7345388061398177864@unknownmsgid> Brandon, I would set up a separate Gmail account for your club, then send out an email to all the addresses you have. I know you can set up a group of contacts in Microsoft outlook. Unfortunately, I don't know how to do this, but I know it can be done. You could also create an email list using Google groups, yahoo groups, freelist, or another such service. Hope this helps, Chris Nusbaum Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote: > Hello, > I would like to stay away from using my personal address and setup > some kind of club spicific thing. I can totally create an extra Gmail > account, but I am not sure if that is the best option. I already have > a facebook fanpage, group and if I can use what I have, it would be > best. > Thank you, > > On 7/9/13, minh ha wrote: >> Hey Brandon, >> Can't you just send a mass email to the email addresses that you have? >> If privacy is a concern, you can just BCC the email. >> Thanks, >> Minh >> >> On 7/9/13, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote: >>> Hello, >>> I am wondering if anyone knows how to create a newsletter? I need some >>> way to email everyone in the list of email addresses I have for my >>> Club. I have a Facebook fan page and group, but I can’t find any way >>> to send emails with my Facebook email. The school only gives us an >>> email that people can send messages to that are rerouted to my email >>> address. This is all fine and dandy, but really isn’t any use. >>> I was thinking of creating a listsirve, but I couldn’t figure out >>> Gmail and Freelists is only for technology. I think an email list is a >>> little overkill for what I want to do though. If anyone has any ideas >>> please let me know. >>> Thank you, >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brandon Keith Biggs >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/minh.ha927%40gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> "All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty >> recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: >> but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on >> their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/brandonkeithbiggs%40gmail.com > > > -- > Brandon Keith Biggs > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com From minh.ha927 at gmail.com Wed Jul 10 01:47:22 2013 From: minh.ha927 at gmail.com (minh ha) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 21:47:22 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Creating Newsletters for my Student Club In-Reply-To: <-7345388061398177864@unknownmsgid> References:

<-7345388061398177864@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: If you already have a fan page/group on facebook, why don't you just post the newsletter in a post? There is also the "add a file" feature where you can upload the word document of the newsletter on to the page. You could also create a separate club email address as was suggested. Minh On 7/9/13, christopher nusbaum wrote: > Brandon, > > I would set up a separate Gmail account for your club, then send out > an email to all the addresses you have. I know you can set up a group > of contacts in Microsoft outlook. Unfortunately, I don't know how to > do this, but I know it can be done. You could also create an email > list using Google groups, yahoo groups, freelist, or another such > service. > > Hope this helps, > > Chris Nusbaum > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 9, 2013, at 6:03 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs > wrote: > >> Hello, >> I would like to stay away from using my personal address and setup >> some kind of club spicific thing. I can totally create an extra Gmail >> account, but I am not sure if that is the best option. I already have >> a facebook fanpage, group and if I can use what I have, it would be >> best. >> Thank you, >> >> On 7/9/13, minh ha wrote: >>> Hey Brandon, >>> Can't you just send a mass email to the email addresses that you have? >>> If privacy is a concern, you can just BCC the email. >>> Thanks, >>> Minh >>> >>> On 7/9/13, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> I am wondering if anyone knows how to create a newsletter? I need some >>>> way to email everyone in the list of email addresses I have for my >>>> Club. I have a Facebook fan page and group, but I can’t find any way >>>> to send emails with my Facebook email. The school only gives us an >>>> email that people can send messages to that are rerouted to my email >>>> address. This is all fine and dandy, but really isn’t any use. >>>> I was thinking of creating a listsirve, but I couldn’t figure out >>>> Gmail and Freelists is only for technology. I think an email list is a >>>> little overkill for what I want to do though. If anyone has any ideas >>>> please let me know. >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Brandon Keith Biggs >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nabs-l mailing list >>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>>> nabs-l: >>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/minh.ha927%40gmail.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty >>> recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: >>> but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on >>> their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/brandonkeithbiggs%40gmail.com >> >> >> -- >> Brandon Keith Biggs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/minh.ha927%40gmail.com > -- "All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence From bookwormahb at earthlink.net Wed Jul 10 03:09:57 2013 From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 23:09:57 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Creating Newsletters for my Student Club In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Brandon, I'm not too familiar with facebook; I'm just learning its layout. I know you can attach files though. So why not do that with your group's page? Another idea is to post the newsletter as a link somewhere in the cloud for people to download. Not sure how to do that. I think drop box allows you to do this. I don't think you can email from facebook; I did not see a link for it either. -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Keith Biggs Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 5:16 PM To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org Subject: [nabs-l] Creating Newsletters for my Student Club Hello, I am wondering if anyone knows how to create a newsletter? I need some way to email everyone in the list of email addresses I have for my Club. I have a Facebook fan page and group, but I can’t find any way to send emails with my Facebook email. The school only gives us an email that people can send messages to that are rerouted to my email address. This is all fine and dandy, but really isn’t any use. I was thinking of creating a listsirve, but I couldn’t figure out Gmail and Freelists is only for technology. I think an email list is a little overkill for what I want to do though. If anyone has any ideas please let me know. Thank you, -- Brandon Keith Biggs _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Wed Jul 10 04:31:23 2013 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 00:31:23 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Creating Newsletters for my Student Club In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Brandon and all, Assuming that you've gotten all your club members to join your group or fan page on facebook, (probably the group would be best as the fan page might have admirers as well), I would do the file upload option. That way you can put it in a place where the group will have access to it without dealing with the emailing stuff. I also like the idea of using dropbox links and letting the members download the email from your public folder. That would certainly be a good option as well. On 7/9/13, Ashley Bramlett wrote: > Brandon, > I'm not too familiar with facebook; I'm just learning its layout. > > I know you can attach files though. So why not do that with your group's > page? > Another idea is to post the newsletter as a link somewhere in the cloud for > > people to download. Not sure how to do that. I think drop box allows you to > > do this. > > I don't think you can email from facebook; I did not see a link for it > either. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brandon Keith Biggs > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 5:16 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Creating Newsletters for my Student Club > > Hello, > I am wondering if anyone knows how to create a newsletter? I need some > way to email everyone in the list of email addresses I have for my > Club. I have a Facebook fan page and group, but I can’t find any way > to send emails with my Facebook email. The school only gives us an > email that people can send messages to that are rerouted to my email > address. This is all fine and dandy, but really isn’t any use. > I was thinking of creating a listsirve, but I couldn’t figure out > Gmail and Freelists is only for technology. I think an email list is a > little overkill for what I want to do though. If anyone has any ideas > please let me know. > Thank you, > > > -- > Brandon Keith Biggs > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti From freethaught at gmail.com Thu Jul 11 02:52:01 2013 From: freethaught at gmail.com (Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:52:01 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! In-Reply-To: References: , <3EF472AF25814A8BA89ACD1DFBD59F99@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <3F4FA652-CC6A-4171-B696-F9AF3D669A9A@gmail.com> The scholarship presentation at the board meeting does get printed and recorded into the Braille Monitor. Antonio On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:10 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > Since the stram was acting up, I didn't get to hear the presentation by the scholarship winners! > I want a recording of that too! > They don't usually archive that! > Thanks, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Ashley Bramlett [bookwormahb at earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:32 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! > > I have the same question. I'm hoping that someone will post a link to the > recording once they return from convention. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joshua Lester > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:39 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! > > For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/freethaught%40gmail.com From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Thu Jul 11 02:54:00 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 02:54:00 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! In-Reply-To: <3F4FA652-CC6A-4171-B696-F9AF3D669A9A@gmail.com> References: , <3EF472AF25814A8BA89ACD1DFBD59F99@OwnerPC> , <3F4FA652-CC6A-4171-B696-F9AF3D669A9A@gmail.com> Message-ID: I was talking about the audio of their speeches. Thanks, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. [freethaught at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:52 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! The scholarship presentation at the board meeting does get printed and recorded into the Braille Monitor. Antonio On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:10 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > Since the stram was acting up, I didn't get to hear the presentation by the scholarship winners! > I want a recording of that too! > They don't usually archive that! > Thanks, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Ashley Bramlett [bookwormahb at earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:32 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! > > I have the same question. I'm hoping that someone will post a link to the > recording once they return from convention. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joshua Lester > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:39 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! > > For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/freethaught%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu From freethaught at gmail.com Thu Jul 11 02:55:47 2013 From: freethaught at gmail.com (Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr.) Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 22:55:47 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! In-Reply-To: <3EF472AF25814A8BA89ACD1DFBD59F99@OwnerPC> References: <3EF472AF25814A8BA89ACD1DFBD59F99@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <45AF5FCC-4E75-47F5-82D2-74562C3FA6A9@gmail.com> I performed at the showcase of talent. I know someone was thinking video of the event. While posting the performances on YouTube could be interesting to some, I believe the participants should have been informed their performance may end up in such a public venue. But these are the times of no privacy, anyway. Just saying, Antonio On Jul 6, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote: > I have the same question. I'm hoping that someone will post a link to the recording once they return from convention. > > -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Lester > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:39 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! > > For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/freethaught%40gmail.com From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Thu Jul 11 03:01:27 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 03:01:27 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! In-Reply-To: <45AF5FCC-4E75-47F5-82D2-74562C3FA6A9@gmail.com> References: <3EF472AF25814A8BA89ACD1DFBD59F99@OwnerPC>, <45AF5FCC-4E75-47F5-82D2-74562C3FA6A9@gmail.com> Message-ID: You performed? What song did you do? What instrument do you play? Thanks, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr. [freethaught at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:55 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! I performed at the showcase of talent. I know someone was thinking video of the event. While posting the performances on YouTube could be interesting to some, I believe the participants should have been informed their performance may end up in such a public venue. But these are the times of no privacy, anyway. Just saying, Antonio On Jul 6, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote: > I have the same question. I'm hoping that someone will post a link to the recording once they return from convention. > > -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Lester > Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:39 PM > To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org > Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! > > For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? > Thanks, Joshua > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/freethaught%40gmail.com _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccuaedu.onmicrosoft.com From lizmohnke at hotmail.com Thu Jul 11 15:47:04 2013 From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 11:47:04 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship Speeches Re: Showcase of Talent! In-Reply-To: References: , <3EF472AF25814A8BA89ACD1DFBD59F99@OwnerPC>, <3F4FA652-CC6A-4171-B696-F9AF3D669A9A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello Joshua, I just checked out last year's post-convention issue of the Braille Monitor to ensure the accuracy of this information. As far as I can tell, it contains both a text and audio copy of the speeches given by the scholarship winners given during the Board of Directors meeting. The only exception to this is the top scholarship winner who is given the opportunity to address the convention during the banquet. So if you missed these speeches due to the glitches in the audio stream during the convention, then keep your eye out for the next issue of the Braille Monitor. Elizabeth -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joshua Lester" Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:54 PM To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! > I was talking about the audio of their speeches. > Thanks, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Antonio M. Guimaraes > Jr. [freethaught at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:52 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! > > The scholarship presentation at the board meeting does get printed and > recorded into the Braille Monitor. > > Antonio > > > > > On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:10 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > >> Since the stram was acting up, I didn't get to hear the presentation by >> the scholarship winners! >> I want a recording of that too! >> They don't usually archive that! >> Thanks, Joshua >> ________________________________________ >> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Ashley Bramlett >> [bookwormahb at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:32 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! >> >> I have the same question. I'm hoping that someone will post a link to the >> recording once they return from convention. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joshua Lester >> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:39 PM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! >> >> For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? >> Thanks, Joshua >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/freethaught%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com > From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Thu Jul 11 16:15:52 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:15:52 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship Speeches Re: Showcase of Talent! In-Reply-To: References: , <3EF472AF25814A8BA89ACD1DFBD59F99@OwnerPC>, <3F4FA652-CC6A-4171-B696-F9AF3D669A9A@gmail.com> , Message-ID: Thanks for the update! When will the next issue be released? I'm not subscribed to the Monitor. Thanks, Joshua ________________________________________ From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Elizabeth Mohnke [lizmohnke at hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:47 AM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship Speeches Re: Showcase of Talent! Hello Joshua, I just checked out last year's post-convention issue of the Braille Monitor to ensure the accuracy of this information. As far as I can tell, it contains both a text and audio copy of the speeches given by the scholarship winners given during the Board of Directors meeting. The only exception to this is the top scholarship winner who is given the opportunity to address the convention during the banquet. So if you missed these speeches due to the glitches in the audio stream during the convention, then keep your eye out for the next issue of the Braille Monitor. Elizabeth -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joshua Lester" Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:54 PM To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! > I was talking about the audio of their speeches. > Thanks, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Antonio M. Guimaraes > Jr. [freethaught at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:52 PM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! > > The scholarship presentation at the board meeting does get printed and > recorded into the Braille Monitor. > > Antonio > > > > > On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:10 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: > >> Since the stram was acting up, I didn't get to hear the presentation by >> the scholarship winners! >> I want a recording of that too! >> They don't usually archive that! >> Thanks, Joshua >> ________________________________________ >> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Ashley Bramlett >> [bookwormahb at earthlink.net] >> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:32 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! >> >> I have the same question. I'm hoping that someone will post a link to the >> recording once they return from convention. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Joshua Lester >> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:39 PM >> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! >> >> For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? >> Thanks, Joshua >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/freethaught%40gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com > _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccuaedu.onmicrosoft.com From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com Thu Jul 11 16:32:45 2013 From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:32:45 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship Speeches Re: Showcase of Talent! 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Message-ID: Hi, I think it will be released some time later this month or in early August. The last one for July just came out a few days before convention, so they probably need a few weeks to get everything together. If you subscribe to the email version of the monitor you'll get something in your inbox once it's available. On 7/11/13, Joshua Lester wrote: > Thanks for the update! > When will the next issue be released? > I'm not subscribed to the Monitor. > Thanks, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Elizabeth Mohnke > [lizmohnke at hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:47 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship Speeches Re: Showcase of Talent! > > Hello Joshua, > > I just checked out last year's post-convention issue of the Braille Monitor > to ensure the accuracy of this information. > > As far as I can tell, it contains both a text and audio copy of the > speeches > given by the scholarship winners given during the Board of Directors > meeting. The only exception to this is the top scholarship winner who is > given the opportunity to address the convention during the banquet. > > So if you missed these speeches due to the glitches in the audio stream > during the convention, then keep your eye out for the next issue of the > Braille Monitor. > > Elizabeth > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Joshua Lester" > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:54 PM > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! > >> I was talking about the audio of their speeches. >> Thanks, Joshua >> ________________________________________ >> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Antonio M. >> Guimaraes >> Jr. [freethaught at gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:52 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! >> >> The scholarship presentation at the board meeting does get printed and >> recorded into the Braille Monitor. >> >> Antonio >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:10 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: >> >>> Since the stram was acting up, I didn't get to hear the presentation by >>> the scholarship winners! >>> I want a recording of that too! >>> They don't usually archive that! >>> Thanks, Joshua >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Ashley Bramlett >>> [bookwormahb at earthlink.net] >>> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:32 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! >>> >>> I have the same question. I'm hoping that someone will post a link to >>> the >>> recording once they return from convention. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Joshua Lester >>> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:39 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! >>> >>> For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? >>> Thanks, Joshua >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/freethaught%40gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccua.edu >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccuaedu.onmicrosoft.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104%40gmail.com > -- Kaiti From justin.williams2 at gmail.com Thu Jul 11 16:39:34 2013 From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:39:34 -0400 Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship Speeches Re: Showcase of Talent! 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Message-ID: <003601ce7e55$3a66d220$af347660$@gmail.com> How do I get the braille monitor? -----Original Message----- From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:33 PM To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Scholarship Speeches Re: Showcase of Talent! Hi, I think it will be released some time later this month or in early August. The last one for July just came out a few days before convention, so they probably need a few weeks to get everything together. If you subscribe to the email version of the monitor you'll get something in your inbox once it's available. On 7/11/13, Joshua Lester wrote: > Thanks for the update! > When will the next issue be released? > I'm not subscribed to the Monitor. > Thanks, Joshua > ________________________________________ > From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Elizabeth Mohnke > [lizmohnke at hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:47 AM > To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list > Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship Speeches Re: Showcase of Talent! > > Hello Joshua, > > I just checked out last year's post-convention issue of the Braille > Monitor to ensure the accuracy of this information. > > As far as I can tell, it contains both a text and audio copy of the > speeches given by the scholarship winners given during the Board of > Directors meeting. The only exception to this is the top scholarship > winner who is given the opportunity to address the convention during > the banquet. > > So if you missed these speeches due to the glitches in the audio > stream during the convention, then keep your eye out for the next > issue of the Braille Monitor. > > Elizabeth > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Joshua Lester" > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:54 PM > To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" > > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! > >> I was talking about the audio of their speeches. >> Thanks, Joshua >> ________________________________________ >> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Antonio M. >> Guimaraes >> Jr. [freethaught at gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:52 PM >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! >> >> The scholarship presentation at the board meeting does get printed >> and recorded into the Braille Monitor. >> >> Antonio >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 7, 2013, at 2:10 AM, Joshua Lester wrote: >> >>> Since the stram was acting up, I didn't get to hear the presentation >>> by the scholarship winners! >>> I want a recording of that too! >>> They don't usually archive that! >>> Thanks, Joshua >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Ashley >>> Bramlett [bookwormahb at earthlink.net] >>> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 2:32 PM >>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! >>> >>> I have the same question. I'm hoping that someone will post a link >>> to the recording once they return from convention. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Joshua Lester >>> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2013 1:39 PM >>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> Subject: [nabs-l] Showcase of Talent! >>> >>> For those of you who attended, who recorded it last night? >>> Thanks, Joshua >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40ea >>> rthlink.net >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pc >>> cua.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nabs-l mailing list >>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info >>> for >>> nabs-l: >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/freethaught%40gm >>> ail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pcc >> ua.edu >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nabs-l mailing list >> nabs-l at nfbnet.org >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org >> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for >> nabs-l: >> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotma >> il.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/jlester8462%40pccu > aedu.onmicrosoft.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > nabs-l mailing list > nabs-l at nfbnet.org > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org > To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for > nabs-l: > http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/crazy4clarinet104% > 40gmail.com > -- Kaiti _______________________________________________ nabs-l mailing list nabs-l at nfbnet.org http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l: http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail .com From JLester8462 at pccua.edu Thu Jul 11 16:44:29 2013 From: JLester8462 at pccua.edu (Joshua Lester) Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:44:29 +0000 Subject: [nabs-l] Scholarship Speeches Re: Showcase of Talent! 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