[nabs-l] security alerts on the braillenote

Mon Mar 11 20:13:56 UTC 2013

Mike,=20I'm=20going=20to=20have=20to=20disagree=20with=20you=20here.=20Slat=
es=20and=20
styluses=20are=20very=20inefficient.=20On=20my=20BN,=20I=20can=20type=20not=
es=20in=20
class=20faster=20than=20most=20sighted=20kids=20can=20write=20them.=20On=20=
an=20S&S,=20
notetaking=20would=20take=20ten=20times=20as=20long=20and=20be=20three=20ti=
mes=20as=20
difficult.=20Also,=20I=20have=20found=20Apple's=20braille=20support=20to=20=
be=20very=20
nice.=20Yeah,=20it's=20not=20perfect,=20but=20it's=20great=20all=20things=20=

considered.=20Okay,=20sorry=20for=20the=20rant=20and=20for=20getting=20off=
=20topic.=20
Kaiti,=20I=20like=20your=20idea=20of=20petitioning=20Humanware=20to=20inclu=
de=20an=20
updated=20list=20of=20security=20certificates=20(as=20well=20as=20a=20freak=
in=20Docx=20
converter)=20into=20their=20next=20update.=20Does=20anyone=20know=20how=20w=
e=20could=20
get=20such=20a=20project=20started?

Yours=20sincerely,
Sophie

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Mike=20Freeman=20<k7uij at panix.com
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2011=20Mar=202013=2011:55:22=20-0700
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20security=20alerts=20on=20the=20braillenote

The=20answer=20is=20extremely=20simple=20although=20my=20observation=20is=20=
that=20
most=20blind=20people=20do=20not=20want=20to=20hear=20it.
First,=20piezoelectric=20braille=20displays=20are=20expensive=20and=20the=20=

demand=20for=20them=20is=20small=20enough=20that=20their=20price=20is=20unl=
ikely=20to=20
decrease=20much.
Second,=20Apple=20sells=20far=20more=20i-devices=20than=20Humanware,=20HIMS=
=20and=20
Levelstar/APH=20sell=20note-takers.=20Therefore,=20Apple=20can=20take=20
advantage=20of=20economies=20of=20scale=20in=20production=20that=20note-tak=
er=20
manufacturers=20can=20only=20dream=20of.=20High=20production=20quantity=20
translates=20directly=20into=20lower=20prices
This=20is=20the=20economic=20consequence=20of=20being=20the=20minority=20we=
=20know=20
ourselves=20to=20be.=20The=20fact=20that=20note-takers=20are,=20in=20essenc=
e,=20
glorified=20PDAs=20with=20braille=20displays=20matters=20not=20one=20whit=20=
where=20
economics=20are=20concerned.=20The=20kicker=20here=20is=20that=20we=20canno=
t=20depend=20
upon=20mainstream=20devices=20to=20meet=20all=20our=20needs
All=20the=20complaining=20in=20the=20world=20won't=20change=20this=20realit=
y.=20The=20
one=20consolation=20we=20have=20here=20is=20that=20slates=20and=20styluses=
=20are=20
still=20cheap!

Mike=20Freeman
sent=20from=20my=20iPhone

On=20Mar=2011,=202013,=20at=2011:05,=20Sarah=20<coastergirl92 at gmail.com>=20=
wrote:

=20Yeah=20my=20point=20is=20the=20same=20why=20in=20the=20world=20would=20y=
ou=20have=20to=20pay=20
over=20$5,000=20for=20a=20device=20that=20can=20barely=20do=20more=20than=20=
go=20on=20
Facebook=20or=20google=20or=20Bookshare=20when=20an=20iPhone=20costs=20less=
=20than=20
half=20the=20price=20and=20you=20can=20do=20anything=20on=20it.

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
=20From:=20Valerie=20Gibson=20<valandkayla at gmail.com
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20=

<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2011=20Mar=202013=2001:38:15=20-0500
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20security=20alerts=20on=20the=20braillenote

=20I=20think=20i=20saw=20something=20about=20it=20on=20the=20BN=20mailing=20=
list,=20but=20
someone=20said=20their=20computer=20was=20doing=20it=20too,=20and=20I=20hav=
e=20not=20had=20
that=20problem.=20=20Overall,=20the=20thread=20on=20it=20was=20not=20too=20=
helpful,=20but=20
maybe=20I=20just=20didn't=20dig=20deep=20enough.

=20Another=20bad=20part=20about=20all=20this=20is,=20I=20can't=20even=20exi=
t=20the=20
internet=20because=20the=20dialog=20pops=20up=20again.=20=20I=20have=20to=20=
reset=20my=20
BN.

=20It's=20sadly=20getting=20to=20the=20point=20where,=20if=20not=20for=20th=
e=20braille=20
display,=20the=20BN=20would=20not=20be=20worth=20having=E2=80=A6at=20least=
=20that's=20my=20
thinking.

=20I=20know=20the=20BN=20can=20only=20do=20so=20muc,=20but=20if=20it=20were=
=20half=20as=20good=20as=20
a=20mobile=20device=20that=20would=20be=20something.=20=20I=20don't=20mean=
=20to=20bash=20
the=20braillenote=20or=20the=20manufacturer,=20and=20I=20appologize=20if=20=
my=20tone=20
is=20coming=20across=20as=20such,=20it's=20just=E2=80=A6to=20spend=20that=20=
much=20money=20on=20
a=20device=20and=20have=20your=20iphone/ipad,=20which=20coasts=20a=20fifth=
=20of=20the=20
price,=20work=20more=20flawlessly=20is=20a=20wee=20bit=20disappointing.

=20Maybe=20humanware=20should=20up=20the=20game=20and=20make=20a=20iphone/i=
pad=20
docking=20station=20with=20a=20braille=20display=20at=20the=20bottom=E2=80=
=A6or=20an=20
iphone/ipad=20case=20with=20a=20braille=20display=20somehow=20built=20in.=20=
=20You=20
have=20to=20admit,=20that=20would=20be=20beautiful.=20=20:)

=20If=20anyone=20figures=20out=20a=20way=20around=20this,=20please=20let=20=
me=20know.=20=20
Thanks=20so=20much.
=20On=20Mar=2011,=202013,=20at=2012:09=20AM,=20Zachary=20N.=20=20Griego-Dre=
icer=20
<zdreicer at gmail.com>=20wrote:

=20good=20evening=20Valerie.=20=20I=20get=20those=20annoying=20things=20all=
=20the=20time!=20
I=20can=20not=20figure=20a=20way=20around=20them=20either.=20=20Do=20you=20=
know=20of=20=20the=20
braillenote=20mailing=20list?

=20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone

=20On=20Mar=2010,=202013,=20at=2010:59=20PM,=20Valerie=20Gibson=20
<valandkayla at gmail.com>=20wrote:

=20Hi,

=20Quick=20question.=20=20Does=20anyone=20ever=20get=20a=20ton=20of=20secur=
ity=20alerts=20
while=20using=20the=20internet=20on=20the=20braillenote=20apex?=20=20When=20=
I=20go=20to=20
facebook=20or=20bookshare,=20I'll=20get:
=20Security=20alert=20dialog.
=20informationyou=20exchange=20with=20this=20site=20cannot=20be=20viewed=20=
or=20
changed=20by=20others.=20=20However,=20there=20is=20a=20problem=20with=20th=
e=20site's=20
security=20certificate.=20=20The=20security=20certificate=20is=20from=20a=20=
trusted=20
certifying=20athority.
=20The=20security=20certificate=20date=20is=20valid.
=20The=20name=20on=20the=20security=20certificate=20is=20invalid=20or=20doe=
s=20not=20
match=20the=20name=20of=20the=20site.
=20Do=20you=20want=20to=20continue?

=20The=20problem=20is:
=201.=20=20I=20can=20sometimes=20get=20eight=20or=20ten=20of=20these=20in=20=
a=20row,=20and=20I=20
just=20hit=20yes=20on=20it.
=202.=20=20When=20i'm=20moving=20to=20a=20new=20line=20on=20the=20dialog,=20=
the=20braillenote=20
lags.=20=20for=20example,=20from=20"The=20name=20on=20the=20security=20cert=
ificate=20is=20
invalid=E2=80=A6"=20to=20"do=20you=20want=20to=20continue=E2=80=A6"=20it=20=
takes=20the=20
braillenote=20a=20second=20at=20most=20to=20jump=20from=20those=20two=20lin=
e.=20=20When=20
you're=20dealing=20with=20four=20lines,=20that's=20four=20seconds,=20just=20=
to=20get=20
to=20the=20prompt.=20=20With=20all=20of=20that=20added=20up,=20it=20takes=20=
about=20a=20
minute=20to=20get=20past=20that.=20=20I=20even=20tried=20hitting=20"no"=20o=
n=20the=20prompt=20
and=20it=20still=20brings=20up=20security=20stuff..

=20Any=20advice,=20suggestions,=20helpful=20hints,=20complaints=20such=20as=
=20this,=20
etc?=20:)

=20Thanks
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