[nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!

Sun Mar 17 13:19:14 UTC 2013

I agree, Katie! Or, why don't we just compromise and start using Skype
or FaceTime instead of texting? :-)

Chris Nusbaum

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 16, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, Social skills have definitely deteriorated, but the blame can't
> be placed on cell phones; it's the operators who use them who are
> really at fault.  When you consider the original objective behind cell
> phones, (which was to make it easier for people to get in touch with
> each other wherever they may be), they have accomplished that goal.
> It was only when texting came on the scene that people have seriously
> withdrawn, and it seems the younger the generation the more they text
> and the worse their social skills are.  I didn't get an IPhone till
> about a year and a half ago, so I think I was spared the texting-mania
> when it first came out and my sighted friends all got cell phones, but
> I see them do it, and even worse I see friends of my younger siblings
> do it---even while they're at my house supposed to be hanging out with
> their friend---and it boggles the crap out of me.  I mean, how can you
> be so rude as to be carrying on a texting conversation with someone
> else when you're supposed to be at someone's house and spending time
> with them?  It's really the operators at fault; the whole point of
> texting was to allow people to send quick messages that wouldn't be
> worth a phone call... things like, "On my way, be there in 5," or
> "I'll call you later."  Not "OMG did you hear this latest gossip," and
> hen have a message so long that the receiver's phone gets five or six
> pages of text.  People have definitely warped it and are using it for
> the wrong reasons, sacrificing their social skills in the process.
>
> On 3/16/13, Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com> wrote:
>> Actually, I prefer a note-taker to the iPhone for serious work. For stuff
>> that isn't serious, I don't want to be bothered with a keyboard.
>>
>> To each his/her own.
>>
>> Say! How about let's do away with cellphones altogether so we actually have
>> to speak to each other once again? (grin)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kirt Manwaring
>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:30 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>
>> Mike,
>>  I agree fleksy can be a game changer.  Still, portable (and by that
>> I mean pocket-sized) bluetooth keyboards are a realistic option and,
>> speaking from personal experience, I can type much faster on a
>> bluetooth keyboard or paired apex than I can with fleksy, although
>> fleksy is definitely a huge improvement over standard touch typing.
>> When I had a small bluetooth keyboard, I used it all the time for
>> things like texting, e-mail, light notetaking (calendars, contacts,
>> etc), web browsing and the like.  Even with fleksy and a braille note
>> apex, I'm finding that I miss my little bluetooth keyboard more and
>> more the longer I don't have one.  Yes, it was slightly uncomfortable
>> in my pocket...but I'm used to carrying lots of things in my pockets,
>> so that wasn't a big deal.  Yes, it cost something like sixty dollars;
>> I'll probably pay up and get another one soon, just because the dang
>> thing was so practical for me.  Again, I'm just saying what's worked
>> for me, and I totally recognize that my prefered style isn't right for
>> everybody.  As far as I'm concerned, if fleksy gets the job done for
>> you and does most everything you want it do, more power to you.  Your
>> pocket book would probably agree with me.  :)
>>  Best,
>> Kirt
>>
>> On 3/15/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I jump ahead sometimes folks.  I don't always explain myself as I should.
>>> I
>>> apologize for that.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti
>>> Shelton
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:33 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Justin, I'm a little confused as to why you would need to do heavy
>>> notetaking on the IPhone.  Do you mean you'd use it to take notes and
>>> study in lieu of a computer?  If you have one it would probably make
>>> more sense and be easier to just use a laptop, but I'm sure you have a
>>> reason.  Just curious.
>>>
>>> On 3/15/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Yeah,  at some point, but as a full time student, I would like a bridge
>>>> so
>>> I
>>>> can be effective until I get the hang of the gestures.  I don't have
>>>> three
>>>> to four hours a day for a week to spend on the I phone, and I can't
>>>> afford
>>>> to loose time.  The keyboard just seems like the answer. I'll be
>>>> studying
>>>> for exams and doing final papers in the next few weeks.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
>>>> Freeman
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 2:27 PM
>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>
>>>> Unless you're using your iPhone for heavy note-taking (something I do
>>> *not*
>>>> recommend), I think you'll use a keyboard far less than you imagine you
>>>> will. Prticularly now that Fleksy is on the scene, I do not use my
>>> keyboard
>>>> or even my BrailleSensePLUS paired to the iPhone as much as I did a
>>>> couple
>>>> of years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Freeman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
>>> williams
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:13 PM
>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I definitely want a portable keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kirt
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:59 AM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>
>>>> If you want portability, don't give the Apple keyboard. Go online, or to
>>>> your local specialty electronics store, and get one that folds up, rolls
>>> up
>>>> Fits in your pocket, or is actually a custom case for your phone with a
>>>> keyboard that pulls Out. In my mind, the silly Apple keyboard really
>>>> isn't
>>>> practical if you want to carry it Around. Also, something I haven't
>>>> heard
>>>> mentioned yet that is potentially very relevant, the iPhone five has a
>>>> significantly better camera than the four ass. I have a for S, and the
>>>> camera works, but sometimes it's a little bit slow with apps like
>>>> vizwizz
>>>> And the MoneyReader, and I've heard it's a real headache messing with
>>>> OCR
>>>> apps on the four ass camera, but it's quite a bit easier on the five.
>>> Whoa,
>>>> Siri just messed up that last sentence, but I'm feeling kind of risqué
>>>> today, so I'll keep it in there, for comedy sake. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 4:02 AM, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes it is 70$ for the apple one at best-by.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 13, 2013, at 9:54 PM, "justin williams"
>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay.  Is it feasible to get a keyboard to go with it? One of those
>>>>>> little ones?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
>>>>>> Freeman
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:16 PM
>>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 5 has much faster response than do the 4 or 4S (I still have a 4).
>>>>>> However, you're definitely correct that the 4S is being sold much
>>>>>> more cheaply than is the 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
>>>>>> williams
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:54 PM
>>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just told that it handles a little easier, and it is cheaper.
>>>>>> I was told that the five has nothing new, and does not function any
>>>>>> better than the 4s, but it is more expensive.  I don't know for sure;
>>>>>> I am just inquiring.  I've got to buy one soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike
>>>>>> Freeman
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:45 PM
>>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see why it's superior to the 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
>>>>>> williams
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:35 PM
>>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard that the 4s is the best version of the I phone for the
>>>>>> Blind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tony
>>>>>> Grima
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:17 PM
>>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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