[nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Sun Mar 17 19:00:28 UTC 2013 

Kaiti:

It seems to me that the difference between blind and sighted texters is that
the blind must effectively stop what they're doing and actually pay
attention while texting whereas sighted persons can just glance at their
phones. It is a delusion, of course, in that texting impairs attentiveness
for other tasks such as driving but it is not as readily apparent to the
sighted as it is for us.

Mike Freeman


-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton
Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:51 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!

Yes Chris.  I don't know how but I somehow forgot about Face-Time and Skype!
Those do make it much more personal.

I could be wrong and don't want to generalize, but I think on the average
sighted people are worse about this than blind people are.
Maybe it's just because blind people tend to prefer to hear voices, or that
texting on the IPhone touch keyboard can take so much longer than it would
to actually speak to someone directly, but either way I don't see nearly as
many blind people clinging to texting for their conversations like sighted
people do.

The apps are another source of this issue.  That new snap-chat thing that
recently came out seems to be really popular, so popular that I know one
girl who always uses it during a band class we're in.
Apparently she puts her phone on her stand and thinks that since the
conductor can't see the phone he doesn't notice her making faces at her
stand and know what she's doing.  It boggles me how a college student would
do this, as I see college as an opportunity to prepare for the future, but I
guess unfortunately not all people view it that way.

On 3/16/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> christopher nusbaum
> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 9:16 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>
> Justin,
>
> That is the right website, and it is an online only store.
>
> Chris Nusbaum
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 16, 2013, at 11:48 PM, justin williams 
> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Can you get that from a store, orr should I get that online?  Is it 
>> speed dots.com or some such like that?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Misty 
>> Dawn Bradley
>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:26 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>
>> Hi,
>> I also use a bluetooth keyboard and find it very useful and quicker 
>> than typing on the touch screen. SpeedDots has a small bluetooth 
>> keyboard for about $44, and this is the one I have. They also sell a 
>> case for it for $10 that has a belt clip and loops on the back in 
>> case you want a case to put it in, but it could also fit in a pocket 
>> on its own. I like it because it is easy to pair and the keys can be 
>> differentiated from each other. It also has an on and off switch.
>> Hth,
>> Misty
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kirt Manwaring" <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com>
>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 6:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>  I agree fleksy can be a game changer.  Still, portable (and by that 
>> I mean pocket-sized) bluetooth keyboards are a realistic option and, 
>> speaking from personal experience, I can type much faster on a 
>> bluetooth keyboard or paired apex than I can with fleksy, although 
>> fleksy is definitely a huge improvement over standard touch typing.
>> When I had a small bluetooth keyboard, I used it all the time for 
>> things like texting, e-mail, light notetaking (calendars, contacts, 
>> etc), web browsing and the like.  Even with fleksy and a braille note 
>> apex, I'm finding that I miss my little bluetooth keyboard more and 
>> more the longer I don't have one.  Yes, it was slightly uncomfortable 
>> in my pocket...but I'm used to carrying lots of things in my pockets, 
>> so that wasn't a big deal.  Yes, it cost something like sixty 
>> dollars; I'll probably pay up and get another one soon, just because 
>> the dang thing was so practical for me.  Again, I'm just saying 
>> what's worked for me, and I totally recognize that my prefered style 
>> isn't right for everybody.  As far as I'm concerned, if fleksy gets 
>> the job done for you and does most everything you want it do, more 
>> power to you.  Your pocket book would probably agree with me.  :)  
>> Best, Kirt
>>
>> On 3/15/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I jump ahead sometimes folks.  I don't always explain myself as I 
>>> should.
>>> I
>>> apologize for that.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti 
>>> Shelton
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 5:33 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Justin, I'm a little confused as to why you would need to do heavy 
>>> notetaking on the IPhone.  Do you mean you'd use it to take notes 
>>> and study in lieu of a computer?  If you have one it would probably 
>>> make more sense and be easier to just use a laptop, but I'm sure you 
>>> have a reason.  Just curious.
>>>
>>> On 3/15/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Yeah,  at some point, but as a full time student, I would like a 
>>>> bridge so
>>> I
>>>> can be effective until I get the hang of the gestures.  I don't 
>>>> have three to four hours a day for a week to spend on the I phone, 
>>>> and I can't afford to loose time.  The keyboard just seems like the 
>>>> answer. I'll be studying for exams and doing final papers in the 
>>>> next few weeks.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike 
>>>> Freeman
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 2:27 PM
>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>
>>>> Unless you're using your iPhone for heavy note-taking (something I 
>>>> do
>>> *not*
>>>> recommend), I think you'll use a keyboard far less than you imagine 
>>>> you will. Prticularly now that Fleksy is on the scene, I do not use 
>>>> my
>>> keyboard
>>>> or even my BrailleSensePLUS paired to the iPhone as much as I did a 
>>>> couple of years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Freeman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
>>> williams
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:13 PM
>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, I definitely want a portable keyboard.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kirt
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 11:59 AM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>
>>>> If you want portability, don't give the Apple keyboard. Go online, 
>>>> or to your local specialty electronics store, and get one that 
>>>> folds up, rolls
>>> up
>>>> Fits in your pocket, or is actually a custom case for your phone 
>>>> with a keyboard that pulls Out. In my mind, the silly Apple 
>>>> keyboard really isn't practical if you want to carry it Around. 
>>>> Also, something I haven't heard mentioned yet that is potentially 
>>>> very relevant, the iPhone five has a significantly better camera 
>>>> than the four ass. I have a for S, and the camera works, but 
>>>> sometimes it's a little bit slow with apps like vizwizz And the 
>>>> MoneyReader, and I've heard it's a real headache messing with OCR 
>>>> apps on the four ass camera, but it's quite a bit easier on the five.
>>> Whoa,
>>>> Siri just messed up that last sentence, but I'm feeling kind of 
>>>> risqué today, so I'll keep it in there, for comedy sake. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 4:02 AM, Joseph Hudson <jhud7789 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes it is 70$ for the apple one at best-by.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 13, 2013, at 9:54 PM, "justin williams"
>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay.  Is it feasible to get a keyboard to go with it? One of 
>>>>>> those little ones?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike 
>>>>>> Freeman
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 10:16 PM
>>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 5 has much faster response than do the 4 or 4S (I still have 
>>>>>> a 4).
>>>>>> However, you're definitely correct that the 4S is being sold much 
>>>>>> more cheaply than is the 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> justin williams
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:54 PM
>>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was just told that it handles a little easier, and it is cheaper.
>>>>>> I was told that the five has nothing new, and does not function 
>>>>>> any better than the 4s, but it is more expensive.  I don't know 
>>>>>> for sure; I am just inquiring.  I've got to buy one soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mike 
>>>>>> Freeman
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 5:45 PM
>>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see why it's superior to the 5.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> justin williams
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 12:35 PM
>>>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard that the 4s is the best version of the I phone for the 
>>>>>> Blind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tony 
>>>>>> Grima
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 2:17 PM
>>>>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] At last - the iPhone iOS6 Updates are here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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