[nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness

Fri Mar 22 19:36:45 UTC 2013

Yes, this is true. It is also important that when you are arguing against 
someone else's argument that you can effectively counter their claims.
Misty

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness

> It is important to read their trash.  Remember, other people are, and to
> their mind, they no things about you.  You can more easily refute them if
> you have some idea on what people are saying.  You can't advocate without
> proper information.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh Gregory
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:18 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>
> Hi Joshua, you don't want to read their trash, so you say, but you say 
> that
> it is important to educate them. I get that, but if you read it, you can
> assist in educating them. Doing nothing is not a good idea here, and when 
> I
> get a chance in a bit, I'm going to find these articles and see what 
> they're
> like.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu> wrote:
>
>> I don't want to read their trash.
>> If they have something negative to say, I'd usually E-Mail them and give
> them my take on the matter, and teach them some old school NFB philosophy!
>> Does EHow have a captcha on their contact form?
>> BTW, the ideas come from the ignorant people that don't know anything, 
>> and
> have never seen a blind person do anything independently!
>> We need to do something, and I posted a suggestion on another thread that
> I just started.
>> Thanks, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie Gilmer
> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:56 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>
>> They are no gag. They are on a well viewed and well shared site. You 
>> think
> we all are not tired? Saying nothing does nothing but allows them to go 
> on,
> unimpeded. There was just an article about the real and large problem of
> employment discrimination for blind people. Where do the ideas come from?
> how do they go on and on and on? Doing nothing does nothing to correct or
> stop. It makes me terribly sad and dismayed to hear "they are not worth my
> time". Is correcting even one mind which may affect a blind person's
> employment or education worth your time? what if that blind person is you?
>> Carrie
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Those articles aren't worth my time, if they're going to paint a 
>>> terrible
> picture of blindness!
>>> I'm tired of these negative ideas that come from the 16th century and
> before!
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie Gilmer
> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:31 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>
>>> http://www.ehow.com/how_2040980_care-blind-person.html
>>>
>>> There are links on the pages of articles to a good dozen more...one is
> also titled "how to feed a blind person"
>>>
>>> What kind of blind person can they possibly be depicting? There is no
> distinguishing between a newly blinded person from a major auto accident
> practically in  a coma or a child with multiple disabilities, or a 90 year
> old in feeble health or visually impaired teenager in good health or a
> normal person born blind.
>>> The aura of tragedy and burden and superhuman challenge abounds.
>>> Carrie
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 21, 2013, at 1:00 PM, "justin williams"
> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Where are the articles?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carrie
> Gilmer
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:49 AM
>>>> To: Blind Kid Mailing List; National Association of Blind Students
> mailing
>>>> list
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>
>>>> Hello all~
>>>> I discovered last night a series of articles written and posted on eHow
>>>> concerning blindness. they are misleading at best, horrifically bad
>>>> perpetuated falsehoods at worst.  I had only viewed four of them last
> night
>>>> and had to stop, I was so upset. This morning a friend pointed out that
> I
>>>> was mentioned and partially quoted in another one! I was completely
> unaware,
>>>> and found upon reading it, it is in the midst of misleading and mixed
>>>> messages and not an accurate portrayal from the article or from our
> life!,
>>>> I believe it was pulled from. The same is true for a friend of mine 
>>>> also
>>>> "quoted" in the same article! one of the articles is titled "How to set
> the
>>>> table for a blind person", yes, seriously. "How to care for a blind
>>>> person"...They are Just dripping with condescending dramatic language
> and
>>>> ideas! They appear to name the NFB (named National Federation FOR the
> Blind)
>>>> as a reference!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>> I strongly encourage you to read the articles in the series and write
>>>> complaints both individually and as groups, with reasoned argument
> specific
>>>> to false points. There are multiple authors, so letters naming problems
> with
>>>> each article are needed.
>>>>
>>>> We must get these off the internet.
>>>>
>>>> Contact for complaint for eHow:
>>>>
>>>> I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO HAS COMPLAINT OR KNOWS ANYTHING ACCURATE ABOUT
>>>> BLINDNESS TO WRITE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO EHOW!!!! I will be doing it 
>>>> one
> for
>>>> each ridiculous article!! i believe if they get enough coherent and
>>>> reasonable complaints they will take these down permanently...as per
> their
>>>> policy on misinformation!:
>>>>
>>>> Further Information If you have a complaint, you may contact us at 
>>>> eHow,
>>>> Inc. Legal Department, 5808 Lake Washington Blvd. Ste. 300, Kirkland, 
>>>> WA
>>>> 98033, U.S.A. If you are a California resident, the Complaint 
>>>> Assistance
>>>> Unit of the Division of Consumer Services of the Dept. of Consumer
> Affairs
>>>> may be contacted at 400 R Street, Sacramento, CA 95814 or (800) 
>>>> 952-5210
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Carrie
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
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