[nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness

Thu Mar 21 22:39:56 UTC 2013

It is a little annoying; almost as if you do completely different things.  

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From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:15 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness

Exactly!
Also, I get a little adgitated when a sighted person asks me how I watch TV!
I, of course, explain to them that I listen to what's said, and I can tell
somewhat, what's going on with the sound affects.
Sometimes, audio descriptions would help, though!
Blessings, Joshua
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From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Arielle Silverman
[arielle71 at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:11 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness

It reminds me of a time when I rented a movie with two blind friends
and my sighted fiancee. We had to keep adjusting our seating
configuration so he could see the video screen (obviously the three of
us blind folks were just listening, so it didn't matter where we sat
in the room). Eventually it struck me that here was a situation where
the lone sighted person was the one with "special needs" because he
needed an accommodation that we didn't. Of course I love him dearly
and this is not an attack on him or on sighted people. But it makes
you think about where the supposed tragedy of blindness really comes
from. If you alter the group dynamics just a little bit, blind people
can be equal or even advantaged.
Arielle

On 3/21/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Lol. That is funny.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith
> Biggs
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:27 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>
> Hello,
> I'm pretty sure this is a gag, most of their other articles seem pretty
> ridiculous as well. I may write an article on how to prep a room for a
> sighted person.
>
> Make sure lights are turned on and not facing toward the door. Sighted
> people don't like walking into dark rooms. They also don't like walking
> into
>
> bright lights, so one needs to find the perfect balance.
> Open the curtains if it is day time, even if it is really warm outside and
> the AC is on. Sighted people love to have the sun shining into their house
> even though it raises the electrical bill. Make sure print labels on food
> and appliances aren't covered by anything so the sighted person can feel
> comfortable reading the familiar labels. If there aren't already print
> labels on something, make sure they are printed in at least 12 point font
> with black letters on a white background. Make sure your TV screen is on
> and
>
> make sure your computer screen shows what you are doing at all times. If
> you
>
> wish to be safe, slow down your screen reader so the sighted person won't
> feel left out of what you are doing.
> If you plan on cooking with the sighted person in the house, make sure to
> wear big gloves, because it raises the anxiety level of the sighted person
> seeing someone cutting and using hot items without protection.
> If you follow all these instructions, you will be able to interact with a
> sighted person comfortably in your house.
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Keith Biggs
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Josh Gregory
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:58 PM
> To: Misty Dawn Bradley ; National Association of Blind Students mailing
> list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>
> It's all good, we all make mistakes sometimes, :-)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley <mistydbradley at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I am sorry, but I meant to say EHow rather than EZine Articles in my
>> earlier post.
>> Misty
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "justin williams"
>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>
>>
>>> It is important to read their trash.  Remember, other people are, and to
>>> their mind, they no things about you.  You can more easily refute them
>>> if
>>> you have some idea on what people are saying.  You can't advocate
>>> without
>>> proper information.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh
>>> Gregory
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:18 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>
>>> Hi Joshua, you don't want to read their trash, so you say, but you say
>>> that
>>> it is important to educate them. I get that, but if you read it, you can
>>> assist in educating them. Doing nothing is not a good idea here, and
>>> when
>
>>> I
>>> get a chance in a bit, I'm going to find these articles and see what
>>> they're
>>> like.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't want to read their trash.
>>>> If they have something negative to say, I'd usually E-Mail them and
>>>> give
>>> them my take on the matter, and teach them some old school NFB
>>> philosophy!
>>>> Does EHow have a captcha on their contact form?
>>>> BTW, the ideas come from the ignorant people that don't know anything,
>>>> and
>>> have never seen a blind person do anything independently!
>>>> We need to do something, and I posted a suggestion on another thread
>>>> that
>>> I just started.
>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie Gilmer
>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:56 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>
>>>> They are no gag. They are on a well viewed and well shared site. You
>>>> think
>>> we all are not tired? Saying nothing does nothing but allows them to go
>>> on,
>>> unimpeded. There was just an article about the real and large problem of
>>> employment discrimination for blind people. Where do the ideas come
>>> from?
>>> how do they go on and on and on? Doing nothing does nothing to correct
>>> or
>>> stop. It makes me terribly sad and dismayed to hear "they are not worth
>>> my
>>> time". Is correcting even one mind which may affect a blind person's
>>> employment or education worth your time? what if that blind person is
>>> you?
>>>> Carrie
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Those articles aren't worth my time, if they're going to paint a
>>>>> terrible
>>> picture of blindness!
>>>>> I'm tired of these negative ideas that come from the 16th century and
>>> before!
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie Gilmer
>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:31 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ehow.com/how_2040980_care-blind-person.html
>>>>>
>>>>> There are links on the pages of articles to a good dozen more...one is
>>> also titled "how to feed a blind person"
>>>>>
>>>>> What kind of blind person can they possibly be depicting? There is no
>>> distinguishing between a newly blinded person from a major auto accident
>>> practically in  a coma or a child with multiple disabilities, or a 90
>>> year
>>> old in feeble health or visually impaired teenager in good health or a
>>> normal person born blind.
>>>>> The aura of tragedy and burden and superhuman challenge abounds.
>>>>> Carrie
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 21, 2013, at 1:00 PM, "justin williams"
>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Where are the articles?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carrie
>>> Gilmer
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:49 AM
>>>>>> To: Blind Kid Mailing List; National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all~
>>>>>> I discovered last night a series of articles written and posted on
>>>>>> eHow
>>>>>> concerning blindness. they are misleading at best, horrifically bad
>>>>>> perpetuated falsehoods at worst.  I had only viewed four of them last
>>> night
>>>>>> and had to stop, I was so upset. This morning a friend pointed out
>>>>>> that
>>> I
>>>>>> was mentioned and partially quoted in another one! I was completely
>>> unaware,
>>>>>> and found upon reading it, it is in the midst of misleading and mixed
>>>>>> messages and not an accurate portrayal from the article or from our
>>> life!,
>>>>>> I believe it was pulled from. The same is true for a friend of mine
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> "quoted" in the same article! one of the articles is titled "How to
>>>>>> set
>>> the
>>>>>> table for a blind person", yes, seriously. "How to care for a blind
>>>>>> person"...They are Just dripping with condescending dramatic language
>>> and
>>>>>> ideas! They appear to name the NFB (named National Federation FOR the
>>> Blind)
>>>>>> as a reference!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I strongly encourage you to read the articles in the series and write
>>>>>> complaints both individually and as groups, with reasoned argument
>>> specific
>>>>>> to false points. There are multiple authors, so letters naming
>>>>>> problems
>>> with
>>>>>> each article are needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We must get these off the internet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Contact for complaint for eHow:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO HAS COMPLAINT OR KNOWS ANYTHING ACCURATE
>>>>>> ABOUT
>>>>>> BLINDNESS TO WRITE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO EHOW!!!! I will be doing it
>>>>>> one
>>> for
>>>>>> each ridiculous article!! i believe if they get enough coherent and
>>>>>> reasonable complaints they will take these down permanently...as per
>>> their
>>>>>> policy on misinformation!:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Further Information If you have a complaint, you may contact us at
>>>>>> eHow,
>>>>>> Inc. Legal Department, 5808 Lake Washington Blvd. Ste. 300, Kirkland,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WA
>>>>>> 98033, U.S.A. If you are a California resident, the Complaint
>>>>>> Assistance
>>>>>> Unit of the Division of Consumer Services of the Dept. of Consumer
>>> Affairs
>>>>>> may be contacted at 400 R Street, Sacramento, CA 95814 or (800)
>>>>>> 952-5210
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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