[nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness

Sat Mar 23 00:33:56 UTC 2013

And with that article floating around, people will continue to hold
such ridiculous notions. Btw, I think it's worth mentioning that,
although we can and should demand that these articles be removed, I
would be willing to bet that they'll crop up somewhere else
eventually. That's the blessing and curse of the internet--it's
basically immortal. What you do and say on it is forever out of your
hands.

On 3/22/13, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> How about when a sighted person asks you: "How do you eat? Does somebody
> feed you?" Yes, that literally happened to me a couple weeks ago.
>
> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
> Public Relations Committee
> Maryland Association of Blind Students
> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:15 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>
> Exactly!
> Also, I get a little adgitated when a sighted person asks me how I watch
> TV!
> I, of course, explain to them that I listen to what's said, and I can tell
> somewhat, what's going on with the sound affects.
> Sometimes, audio descriptions would help, though!
> Blessings, Joshua
> ________________________________________
> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Arielle Silverman
> [arielle71 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:11 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>
> It reminds me of a time when I rented a movie with two blind friends and my
> sighted fiancee. We had to keep adjusting our seating configuration so he
> could see the video screen (obviously the three of us blind folks were just
> listening, so it didn't matter where we sat in the room). Eventually it
> struck me that here was a situation where the lone sighted person was the
> one with "special needs" because he needed an accommodation that we didn't.
> Of course I love him dearly and this is not an attack on him or on sighted
> people. But it makes you think about where the supposed tragedy of
> blindness
> really comes from. If you alter the group dynamics just a little bit, blind
> people can be equal or even advantaged.
> Arielle
>
> On 3/21/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Lol. That is funny.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon
>> Keith Biggs
>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:27 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>
>> Hello,
>> I'm pretty sure this is a gag, most of their other articles seem
>> pretty ridiculous as well. I may write an article on how to prep a
>> room for a sighted person.
>>
>> Make sure lights are turned on and not facing toward the door. Sighted
>> people don't like walking into dark rooms. They also don't like
>> walking into
>>
>> bright lights, so one needs to find the perfect balance.
>> Open the curtains if it is day time, even if it is really warm outside
>> and the AC is on. Sighted people love to have the sun shining into
>> their house even though it raises the electrical bill. Make sure print
>> labels on food and appliances aren't covered by anything so the
>> sighted person can feel comfortable reading the familiar labels. If
>> there aren't already print labels on something, make sure they are
>> printed in at least 12 point font with black letters on a white
>> background. Make sure your TV screen is on and
>>
>> make sure your computer screen shows what you are doing at all times.
>> If you
>>
>> wish to be safe, slow down your screen reader so the sighted person
>> won't feel left out of what you are doing.
>> If you plan on cooking with the sighted person in the house, make sure
>> to wear big gloves, because it raises the anxiety level of the sighted
>> person seeing someone cutting and using hot items without protection.
>> If you follow all these instructions, you will be able to interact
>> with a sighted person comfortably in your house.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Josh Gregory
>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:58 PM
>> To: Misty Dawn Bradley ; National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>
>> It's all good, we all make mistakes sometimes, :-)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley
>> <mistydbradley at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I am sorry, but I meant to say EHow rather than EZine Articles in my
>>> earlier post.
>>> Misty
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "justin williams"
>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>
>>>
>>>> It is important to read their trash.  Remember, other people are,
>>>> and to their mind, they no things about you.  You can more easily
>>>> refute them if you have some idea on what people are saying.  You
>>>> can't advocate without proper information.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh
>>>> Gregory
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:18 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>
>>>> Hi Joshua, you don't want to read their trash, so you say, but you
>>>> say that it is important to educate them. I get that, but if you
>>>> read it, you can assist in educating them. Doing nothing is not a
>>>> good idea here, and when
>>
>>>> I
>>>> get a chance in a bit, I'm going to find these articles and see what
>>>> they're like.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to read their trash.
>>>>> If they have something negative to say, I'd usually E-Mail them and
>>>>> give
>>>> them my take on the matter, and teach them some old school NFB
>>>> philosophy!
>>>>> Does EHow have a captcha on their contact form?
>>>>> BTW, the ideas come from the ignorant people that don't know
>>>>> anything, and
>>>> have never seen a blind person do anything independently!
>>>>> We need to do something, and I posted a suggestion on another
>>>>> thread that
>>>> I just started.
>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie Gilmer
>>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:56 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>
>>>>> They are no gag. They are on a well viewed and well shared site.
>>>>> You think
>>>> we all are not tired? Saying nothing does nothing but allows them to
>>>> go on, unimpeded. There was just an article about the real and large
>>>> problem of employment discrimination for blind people. Where do the
>>>> ideas come from?
>>>> how do they go on and on and on? Doing nothing does nothing to
>>>> correct or stop. It makes me terribly sad and dismayed to hear "they
>>>> are not worth my time". Is correcting even one mind which may affect
>>>> a blind person's employment or education worth your time? what if
>>>> that blind person is you?
>>>>> Carrie
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Those articles aren't worth my time, if they're going to paint a
>>>>>> terrible
>>>> picture of blindness!
>>>>>> I'm tired of these negative ideas that come from the 16th century
>>>>>> and
>>>> before!
>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie
>>>>>> Gilmer
>>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:31 PM
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.ehow.com/how_2040980_care-blind-person.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are links on the pages of articles to a good dozen
>>>>>> more...one is
>>>> also titled "how to feed a blind person"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What kind of blind person can they possibly be depicting? There is
>>>>>> no
>>>> distinguishing between a newly blinded person from a major auto
>>>> accident practically in  a coma or a child with multiple
>>>> disabilities, or a 90 year old in feeble health or visually impaired
>>>> teenager in good health or a normal person born blind.
>>>>>> The aura of tragedy and burden and superhuman challenge abounds.
>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2013, at 1:00 PM, "justin williams"
>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where are the articles?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>> Gilmer
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:49 AM
>>>>>>> To: Blind Kid Mailing List; National Association of Blind
>>>>>>> Students
>>>> mailing
>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello all~
>>>>>>> I discovered last night a series of articles written and posted
>>>>>>> on eHow concerning blindness. they are misleading at best,
>>>>>>> horrifically bad perpetuated falsehoods at worst.  I had only
>>>>>>> viewed four of them last
>>>> night
>>>>>>> and had to stop, I was so upset. This morning a friend pointed
>>>>>>> out that
>>>> I
>>>>>>> was mentioned and partially quoted in another one! I was
>>>>>>> completely
>>>> unaware,
>>>>>>> and found upon reading it, it is in the midst of misleading and
>>>>>>> mixed messages and not an accurate portrayal from the article or
>>>>>>> from our
>>>> life!,
>>>>>>> I believe it was pulled from. The same is true for a friend of
>>>>>>> mine also "quoted" in the same article! one of the articles is
>>>>>>> titled "How to set
>>>> the
>>>>>>> table for a blind person", yes, seriously. "How to care for a
>>>>>>> blind person"...They are Just dripping with condescending
>>>>>>> dramatic language
>>>> and
>>>>>>> ideas! They appear to name the NFB (named National Federation FOR
>>>>>>> the
>>>> Blind)
>>>>>>> as a reference!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I strongly encourage you to read the articles in the series and
>>>>>>> write complaints both individually and as groups, with reasoned
>>>>>>> argument
>>>> specific
>>>>>>> to false points. There are multiple authors, so letters naming
>>>>>>> problems
>>>> with
>>>>>>> each article are needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We must get these off the internet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Contact for complaint for eHow:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO HAS COMPLAINT OR KNOWS ANYTHING ACCURATE
>>>>>>> ABOUT BLINDNESS TO WRITE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO EHOW!!!! I will be
>>>>>>> doing it one
>>>> for
>>>>>>> each ridiculous article!! i believe if they get enough coherent
>>>>>>> and reasonable complaints they will take these down
>>>>>>> permanently...as per
>>>> their
>>>>>>> policy on misinformation!:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Further Information If you have a complaint, you may contact us
>>>>>>> at eHow, Inc. Legal Department, 5808 Lake Washington Blvd. Ste.
>>>>>>> 300, Kirkland,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WA
>>>>>>> 98033, U.S.A. If you are a California resident, the Complaint
>>>>>>> Assistance Unit of the Division of Consumer Services of the Dept.
>>>>>>> of Consumer
>>>> Affairs
>>>>>>> may be contacted at 400 R Street, Sacramento, CA 95814 or (800)
>>>>>>> 952-5210
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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