[nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
Josh Gregory
joshkart12 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 23 07:42:42 UTC 2013
Hi Katie, all good ideas, I still need to take a look at some of the main articles themselves.
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 23, 2013, at 3:36 AM, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Oh, I have no doubt that we will take action, as I along with others
> are planning to write my own article this weekend as well as advise
> E-How to take another look at their misinformation policy and the
> disarray of their site in general, but especially those articles that
> are slanderous towards groups of people, E.G. those who are blind,
> deaf, etc.
>
> In fact, I have a great idea for an article I would like to share.
>
> How to treat a blind person.
>
> Like anyone else...
>
> then go into the do and don't do things in the steps section.
>
>
> But, since we know it is ridiculous and are confident that something
> will be done by people who see this as an issue, why not have a little
> socializing along with it. Builds morale, I think.
>
> Brandon, I've never heard of such a thing either, but perhaps it's
> pronounced kuh-nife? I think that might be the way it is. What if
> the babies are also blind though? Surely it can't be used on all
> babies for that reason, they might hurt themselves.
>
> And Chris, I have the perfect solution to food patch and IV
> malfunctions should they occur. The blind person would just have a
> straw sergically implanted in one nostril of their nose and when it
> comes time to use... of all things... a cup like sighted people as a
> last resort, they can focus all their mental energy on holding the
> empty glass steady to prevent spills and just inhale whatever it is
> their drinking. And, the best part is that should their throat become
> partially clogged someone could give them mouth to straw assistance
> since, you know, it might be weird for a blind person to kiss someone,
> as we all are taken care of and never develop personal social
> friendships let alone relationships in our lives. Lol.
>
> On 3/23/13, Josh Gregory <joshkart12 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We may joke about this all we want, but that does not take away from the
>> seriousness of the situation. Yes it is good to joke, However, it is good to
>> know that there is a side of this which we must deal with. I'm all for a
>> joke once in a while, but there are times when we need to take action rather
>> than have fun with it.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2013, at 12:06 AM, "Brandon Keith Biggs"
>> <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What's a knife?
>>> I know there is a game called life, but I'm not allowed to play it because
>>> I may choke on the cars or babies. I'm not sure why because for one I
>>> would never be able to fit a baby into my mouth let alone a car!
>>> A knife must be something that people use with babies or cars!
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Nusbaum
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:56 PM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>
>>> Brandon,
>>>
>>> You are hilarious!!!!!!! LOL!!! Now a knife... that's just out of the
>>> question.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>> Public Relations Committee
>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon
>>> Keith
>>> Biggs
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 10:49 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>
>>> No,
>>> We use these things called food patches we swipe over our arm that puts
>>> the
>>> nourishment for a good sized meal into our bloodstream. They are used
>>> completely by feel with Braille labels so we don't need any help with
>>> them.
>>> That way we are never in need of wasting extra time eating and doing this
>>> horribly unnatural thing called socializing over dinner. If for some
>>> reason
>>> we are allergic to the substance excreted by the patches, we can bring
>>> around a personalized IV that is permanently attached to our arm,
>>> injecting
>>> our meals directly into our vain. If a blind person ever touches a fork
>>> they
>>> are in danger of stabbing themselves in the eye which is in front of
>>> them,
>>> but because they can't see is magically put in the way of any sharp
>>> object
>>> they may handle. If they eat solid food they may become poisoned because
>>> they can't see the germs to keep from consuming bad food.
>>> In all cases blind people are never to be given dinner except in their
>>> arm
>>> patches.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Chris Nusbaum
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:14 PM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>
>>> Huh? Don't humans need food to survive? I guess they think blind people
>>> have
>>> a very short lifespan then, LOL.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>> Public Relations Committee
>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
>>> williams
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:12 PM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>
>>> I've had people ask me or my friends if I would be capable of eating
>>> dinner
>>> on a date.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>>> Nusbaum
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:28 PM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>
>>> How about when a sighted person asks you: "How do you eat? Does somebody
>>> feed you?" Yes, that literally happened to me a couple weeks ago.
>>>
>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>> Public Relations Committee
>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua
>>> Lester
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:15 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>
>>> Exactly!
>>> Also, I get a little adgitated when a sighted person asks me how I watch
>>> TV!
>>> I, of course, explain to them that I listen to what's said, and I can
>>> tell
>>> somewhat, what's going on with the sound affects.
>>> Sometimes, audio descriptions would help, though!
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Arielle Silverman
>>> [arielle71 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:11 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>
>>> It reminds me of a time when I rented a movie with two blind friends and
>>> my
>>> sighted fiancee. We had to keep adjusting our seating configuration so he
>>> could see the video screen (obviously the three of us blind folks were
>>> just
>>> listening, so it didn't matter where we sat in the room). Eventually it
>>> struck me that here was a situation where the lone sighted person was the
>>> one with "special needs" because he needed an accommodation that we
>>> didn't.
>>> Of course I love him dearly and this is not an attack on him or on
>>> sighted
>>> people. But it makes you think about where the supposed tragedy of
>>> blindness
>>> really comes from. If you alter the group dynamics just a little bit,
>>> blind
>>> people can be equal or even advantaged.
>>> Arielle
>>>
>>> On 3/21/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Lol. That is funny.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon
>>>> Keith Biggs
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:27 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I'm pretty sure this is a gag, most of their other articles seem
>>>> pretty ridiculous as well. I may write an article on how to prep a
>>>> room for a sighted person.
>>>>
>>>> Make sure lights are turned on and not facing toward the door. Sighted
>>>> people don't like walking into dark rooms. They also don't like
>>>> walking into
>>>>
>>>> bright lights, so one needs to find the perfect balance.
>>>> Open the curtains if it is day time, even if it is really warm outside
>>>> and the AC is on. Sighted people love to have the sun shining into
>>>> their house even though it raises the electrical bill. Make sure print
>>>> labels on food and appliances aren't covered by anything so the
>>>> sighted person can feel comfortable reading the familiar labels. If
>>>> there aren't already print labels on something, make sure they are
>>>> printed in at least 12 point font with black letters on a white
>>>> background. Make sure your TV screen is on and
>>>>
>>>> make sure your computer screen shows what you are doing at all times.
>>>> If you
>>>>
>>>> wish to be safe, slow down your screen reader so the sighted person
>>>> won't feel left out of what you are doing.
>>>> If you plan on cooking with the sighted person in the house, make sure
>>>> to wear big gloves, because it raises the anxiety level of the sighted
>>>> person seeing someone cutting and using hot items without protection.
>>>> If you follow all these instructions, you will be able to interact
>>>> with a sighted person comfortably in your house.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Josh Gregory
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:58 PM
>>>> To: Misty Dawn Bradley ; National Association of Blind Students
>>>> mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>
>>>> It's all good, we all make mistakes sometimes, :-)
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley
>>>> <mistydbradley at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I am sorry, but I meant to say EHow rather than EZine Articles in my
>>>>> earlier post.
>>>>> Misty
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "justin williams"
>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:26 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is important to read their trash. Remember, other people are,
>>>>>> and to their mind, they no things about you. You can more easily
>>>>>> refute them if you have some idea on what people are saying. You
>>>>>> can't advocate without proper information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh
>>>>>> Gregory
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:18 PM
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Joshua, you don't want to read their trash, so you say, but you
>>>>>> say that it is important to educate them. I get that, but if you
>>>>>> read it, you can assist in educating them. Doing nothing is not a
>>>>>> good idea here, and when
>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> get a chance in a bit, I'm going to find these articles and see what
>>>>>> they're like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't want to read their trash.
>>>>>>> If they have something negative to say, I'd usually E-Mail them and
>>>>>>> give
>>>>>> them my take on the matter, and teach them some old school NFB
>>>>>> philosophy!
>>>>>>> Does EHow have a captcha on their contact form?
>>>>>>> BTW, the ideas come from the ignorant people that don't know
>>>>>>> anything, and
>>>>>> have never seen a blind person do anything independently!
>>>>>>> We need to do something, and I posted a suggestion on another
>>>>>>> thread that
>>>>>> I just started.
>>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie Gilmer
>>>>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:56 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They are no gag. They are on a well viewed and well shared site.
>>>>>>> You think
>>>>>> we all are not tired? Saying nothing does nothing but allows them to
>>>>>> go on, unimpeded. There was just an article about the real and large
>>>>>> problem of employment discrimination for blind people. Where do the
>>>>>> ideas come from?
>>>>>> how do they go on and on and on? Doing nothing does nothing to
>>>>>> correct or stop. It makes me terribly sad and dismayed to hear "they
>>>>>> are not worth my time". Is correcting even one mind which may affect
>>>>>> a blind person's employment or education worth your time? what if
>>>>>> that blind person is you?
>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those articles aren't worth my time, if they're going to paint a
>>>>>>>> terrible
>>>>>> picture of blindness!
>>>>>>>> I'm tired of these negative ideas that come from the 16th century
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>> before!
>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie
>>>>>>>> Gilmer
>>>>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:31 PM
>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.ehow.com/how_2040980_care-blind-person.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are links on the pages of articles to a good dozen
>>>>>>>> more...one is
>>>>>> also titled "how to feed a blind person"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What kind of blind person can they possibly be depicting? There is
>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>> distinguishing between a newly blinded person from a major auto
>>>>>> accident practically in a coma or a child with multiple
>>>>>> disabilities, or a 90 year old in feeble health or visually impaired
>>>>>> teenager in good health or a normal person born blind.
>>>>>>>> The aura of tragedy and burden and superhuman challenge abounds.
>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2013, at 1:00 PM, "justin williams"
>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Where are the articles?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>> Gilmer
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:49 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Kid Mailing List; National Association of Blind
>>>>>>>>> Students
>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello all~
>>>>>>>>> I discovered last night a series of articles written and posted
>>>>>>>>> on eHow concerning blindness. they are misleading at best,
>>>>>>>>> horrifically bad perpetuated falsehoods at worst. I had only
>>>>>>>>> viewed four of them last
>>>>>> night
>>>>>>>>> and had to stop, I was so upset. This morning a friend pointed
>>>>>>>>> out that
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> was mentioned and partially quoted in another one! I was
>>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>> unaware,
>>>>>>>>> and found upon reading it, it is in the midst of misleading and
>>>>>>>>> mixed messages and not an accurate portrayal from the article or
>>>>>>>>> from our
>>>>>> life!,
>>>>>>>>> I believe it was pulled from. The same is true for a friend of
>>>>>>>>> mine also "quoted" in the same article! one of the articles is
>>>>>>>>> titled "How to set
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> table for a blind person", yes, seriously. "How to care for a
>>>>>>>>> blind person"...They are Just dripping with condescending
>>>>>>>>> dramatic language
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> ideas! They appear to name the NFB (named National Federation FOR
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Blind)
>>>>>>>>> as a reference!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I strongly encourage you to read the articles in the series and
>>>>>>>>> write complaints both individually and as groups, with reasoned
>>>>>>>>> argument
>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>>> to false points. There are multiple authors, so letters naming
>>>>>>>>> problems
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> each article are needed.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We must get these off the internet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Contact for complaint for eHow:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO HAS COMPLAINT OR KNOWS ANYTHING ACCURATE
>>>>>>>>> ABOUT BLINDNESS TO WRITE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO EHOW!!!! I will be
>>>>>>>>> doing it one
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> each ridiculous article!! i believe if they get enough coherent
>>>>>>>>> and reasonable complaints they will take these down
>>>>>>>>> permanently...as per
>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> policy on misinformation!:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Further Information If you have a complaint, you may contact us
>>>>>>>>> at eHow, Inc. Legal Department, 5808 Lake Washington Blvd. Ste.
>>>>>>>>> 300, Kirkland,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> WA
>>>>>>>>> 98033, U.S.A. If you are a California resident, the Complaint
>>>>>>>>> Assistance Unit of the Division of Consumer Services of the Dept.
>>>>>>>>> of Consumer
>>>>>> Affairs
>>>>>>>>> may be contacted at 400 R Street, Sacramento, CA 95814 or (800)
>>>>>>>>> 952-5210
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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