[nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness

Mon Mar 25 20:12:00 UTC 2013

I would submit that using an adult diaper is far from a convenient
"advantage" of blindness or any other disability. I'm sorry, but there
was really no excuse for that individual to go where she went!
Arielle

On 3/25/13, wmodnl wmodnl <wmodnl at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well, if we were taking a survey of the oddest questions we were ever asked,
> I think what I was asked today would go well.
> Sir, not for nothing, how do you go to the bathroom?  Well, the same way you
> do.  No, I mean, like, when you are out and not at home. Why don't you use
> you know like those things for old people, like disabled people?
> I wanted to put some humor to it, so I said:
> Remember what used to happen when you pressed the wrong button while dialing
> in to Verizon?
> Sorry, that's not an option, try again.
> She began to tell me, that a blind woman she knew had other disabilities,
> and also "used things to her advantage."  I realized what she was getting
> at, the clustering affect.  One size fits all.
> Have a great day.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:50 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs"
> <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No,
>> We use these things called food patches we swipe over our arm that puts
>> the nourishment for a good sized meal into our bloodstream. They are used
>> completely by feel with Braille labels so we don't need any help with
>> them. That way we are never in need of wasting extra time eating and doing
>> this horribly unnatural thing called socializing over dinner. If for some
>> reason we are allergic to the substance excreted by the patches, we can
>> bring around a personalized IV that is permanently attached to our arm,
>> injecting our meals directly into our vain. If a blind person ever touches
>> a fork they are in danger of stabbing themselves in the eye which is in
>> front of them, but because they can't see is magically put in the way of
>> any sharp object they may handle. If they eat solid food they may become
>> poisoned because they can't see the germs to keep from consuming bad
>> food.
>> In all cases blind people are never to be given dinner except in their arm
>> patches.
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Nusbaum
>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:14 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>
>> Huh? Don't humans need food to survive? I guess they think blind people
>> have
>> a very short lifespan then, LOL.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>> Public Relations Committee
>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
>> williams
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:12 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>
>> I've had people ask me or my friends if I would be capable of eating
>> dinner
>> on a date.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>> Nusbaum
>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:28 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>
>> How about when a sighted person asks you: "How do you eat? Does somebody
>> feed you?" Yes, that literally happened to me a couple weeks ago.
>>
>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>> Public Relations Committee
>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua
>> Lester
>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:15 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>
>> Exactly!
>> Also, I get a little adgitated when a sighted person asks me how I watch
>> TV!
>> I, of course, explain to them that I listen to what's said, and I can
>> tell
>> somewhat, what's going on with the sound affects.
>> Sometimes, audio descriptions would help, though!
>> Blessings, Joshua
>> ________________________________________
>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Arielle Silverman
>> [arielle71 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:11 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>
>> It reminds me of a time when I rented a movie with two blind friends and
>> my
>> sighted fiancee. We had to keep adjusting our seating configuration so he
>> could see the video screen (obviously the three of us blind folks were
>> just
>> listening, so it didn't matter where we sat in the room). Eventually it
>> struck me that here was a situation where the lone sighted person was the
>> one with "special needs" because he needed an accommodation that we
>> didn't.
>> Of course I love him dearly and this is not an attack on him or on
>> sighted
>> people. But it makes you think about where the supposed tragedy of
>> blindness
>> really comes from. If you alter the group dynamics just a little bit,
>> blind
>> people can be equal or even advantaged.
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 3/21/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Lol. That is funny.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon
>>> Keith Biggs
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:27 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm pretty sure this is a gag, most of their other articles seem
>>> pretty ridiculous as well. I may write an article on how to prep a
>>> room for a sighted person.
>>>
>>> Make sure lights are turned on and not facing toward the door. Sighted
>>> people don't like walking into dark rooms. They also don't like
>>> walking into
>>>
>>> bright lights, so one needs to find the perfect balance.
>>> Open the curtains if it is day time, even if it is really warm outside
>>> and the AC is on. Sighted people love to have the sun shining into
>>> their house even though it raises the electrical bill. Make sure print
>>> labels on food and appliances aren't covered by anything so the
>>> sighted person can feel comfortable reading the familiar labels. If
>>> there aren't already print labels on something, make sure they are
>>> printed in at least 12 point font with black letters on a white
>>> background. Make sure your TV screen is on and
>>>
>>> make sure your computer screen shows what you are doing at all times.
>>> If you
>>>
>>> wish to be safe, slow down your screen reader so the sighted person
>>> won't feel left out of what you are doing.
>>> If you plan on cooking with the sighted person in the house, make sure
>>> to wear big gloves, because it raises the anxiety level of the sighted
>>> person seeing someone cutting and using hot items without protection.
>>> If you follow all these instructions, you will be able to interact
>>> with a sighted person comfortably in your house.
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Josh Gregory
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:58 PM
>>> To: Misty Dawn Bradley ; National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>
>>> It's all good, we all make mistakes sometimes, :-)
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley
>>> <mistydbradley at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I am sorry, but I meant to say EHow rather than EZine Articles in my
>>>> earlier post.
>>>> Misty
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "justin williams"
>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> It is important to read their trash.  Remember, other people are,
>>>>> and to their mind, they no things about you.  You can more easily
>>>>> refute them if you have some idea on what people are saying.  You
>>>>> can't advocate without proper information.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh
>>>>> Gregory
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:18 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Joshua, you don't want to read their trash, so you say, but you
>>>>> say that it is important to educate them. I get that, but if you
>>>>> read it, you can assist in educating them. Doing nothing is not a
>>>>> good idea here, and when
>>>
>>>>> I
>>>>> get a chance in a bit, I'm going to find these articles and see what
>>>>> they're like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't want to read their trash.
>>>>>> If they have something negative to say, I'd usually E-Mail them and
>>>>>> give
>>>>> them my take on the matter, and teach them some old school NFB
>>>>> philosophy!
>>>>>> Does EHow have a captcha on their contact form?
>>>>>> BTW, the ideas come from the ignorant people that don't know
>>>>>> anything, and
>>>>> have never seen a blind person do anything independently!
>>>>>> We need to do something, and I posted a suggestion on another
>>>>>> thread that
>>>>> I just started.
>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie Gilmer
>>>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:56 PM
>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are no gag. They are on a well viewed and well shared site.
>>>>>> You think
>>>>> we all are not tired? Saying nothing does nothing but allows them to
>>>>> go on, unimpeded. There was just an article about the real and large
>>>>> problem of employment discrimination for blind people. Where do the
>>>>> ideas come from?
>>>>> how do they go on and on and on? Doing nothing does nothing to
>>>>> correct or stop. It makes me terribly sad and dismayed to hear "they
>>>>> are not worth my time". Is correcting even one mind which may affect
>>>>> a blind person's employment or education worth your time? what if
>>>>> that blind person is you?
>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those articles aren't worth my time, if they're going to paint a
>>>>>>> terrible
>>>>> picture of blindness!
>>>>>>> I'm tired of these negative ideas that come from the 16th century
>>>>>>> and
>>>>> before!
>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie
>>>>>>> Gilmer
>>>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:31 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.ehow.com/how_2040980_care-blind-person.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are links on the pages of articles to a good dozen
>>>>>>> more...one is
>>>>> also titled "how to feed a blind person"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What kind of blind person can they possibly be depicting? There is
>>>>>>> no
>>>>> distinguishing between a newly blinded person from a major auto
>>>>> accident practically in  a coma or a child with multiple
>>>>> disabilities, or a 90 year old in feeble health or visually impaired
>>>>> teenager in good health or a normal person born blind.
>>>>>>> The aura of tragedy and burden and superhuman challenge abounds.
>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2013, at 1:00 PM, "justin williams"
>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Where are the articles?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>> Gilmer
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:49 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Blind Kid Mailing List; National Association of Blind
>>>>>>>> Students
>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello all~
>>>>>>>> I discovered last night a series of articles written and posted
>>>>>>>> on eHow concerning blindness. they are misleading at best,
>>>>>>>> horrifically bad perpetuated falsehoods at worst.  I had only
>>>>>>>> viewed four of them last
>>>>> night
>>>>>>>> and had to stop, I was so upset. This morning a friend pointed
>>>>>>>> out that
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> was mentioned and partially quoted in another one! I was
>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>> unaware,
>>>>>>>> and found upon reading it, it is in the midst of misleading and
>>>>>>>> mixed messages and not an accurate portrayal from the article or
>>>>>>>> from our
>>>>> life!,
>>>>>>>> I believe it was pulled from. The same is true for a friend of
>>>>>>>> mine also "quoted" in the same article! one of the articles is
>>>>>>>> titled "How to set
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> table for a blind person", yes, seriously. "How to care for a
>>>>>>>> blind person"...They are Just dripping with condescending
>>>>>>>> dramatic language
>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> ideas! They appear to name the NFB (named National Federation FOR
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>> Blind)
>>>>>>>> as a reference!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I strongly encourage you to read the articles in the series and
>>>>>>>> write complaints both individually and as groups, with reasoned
>>>>>>>> argument
>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>> to false points. There are multiple authors, so letters naming
>>>>>>>> problems
>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> each article are needed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We must get these off the internet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Contact for complaint for eHow:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO HAS COMPLAINT OR KNOWS ANYTHING ACCURATE
>>>>>>>> ABOUT BLINDNESS TO WRITE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO EHOW!!!! I will be
>>>>>>>> doing it one
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> each ridiculous article!! i believe if they get enough coherent
>>>>>>>> and reasonable complaints they will take these down
>>>>>>>> permanently...as per
>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> policy on misinformation!:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Further Information If you have a complaint, you may contact us
>>>>>>>> at eHow, Inc. Legal Department, 5808 Lake Washington Blvd. Ste.
>>>>>>>> 300, Kirkland,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> WA
>>>>>>>> 98033, U.S.A. If you are a California resident, the Complaint
>>>>>>>> Assistance Unit of the Division of Consumer Services of the Dept.
>>>>>>>> of Consumer
>>>>> Affairs
>>>>>>>> may be contacted at 400 R Street, Sacramento, CA 95814 or (800)
>>>>>>>> 952-5210
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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