[nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness

Josh Gregory joshkart12 at gmail.com
Tue Mar 26 04:11:55 UTC 2013 

My Gosh, What a vulgar way to portray us!

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 25, 2013, at 11:51 PM, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepower17 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You know, I can't remember exactly when this was, or what show, but I
> remember flipping through radio stations once when I was a kid and
> stopping on a talk show. I believe it may have been howard Stern, but
> don't quote me on that. He said, in a nutshell, that blind people must
> be better at wiping than sighted folks after they go to the
> bathroom...It was more crudely put than that, but you catch my drift.
> Both views are absurd. It's a basic bodily function that is not
> dependent on sight!
> 
> On 3/25/13, Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> What most disturbs me about this is,:
>> 
>> "She began to tell me, that a blind woman she knew had other
>> disabilities, and also "used things to her advantage."  I realized
>> what she was getting at, the clustering affect.  One size fits all."
>> 
>> Where in the world did this person come up with the idea that all
>> blind people have other disabilities in addition to their blindness,
>> or that all use things to their advantage?  I know it's the clustering
>> effect, but the fact that these two things are so far fetched is
>> shocking to me... it's not just something out of ignorance like, "Do
>> you get around by counting steps," or "You must be able to hear
>> everything," it's literally assuming that blind people are much less
>> capable of even taking care of the simplest bodily function and that
>> we're all either too disabled or too lazy to take care of it.
>> 
>> On 3/25/13, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> What? I know a lot of blind people, none of whom use diapers to go to the
>>> bathroom after infancy.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>> Public Relations Committee
>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of wmodnl
>>> wmodnl
>>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 3:00 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Cc: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>> 
>>> Well, if we were taking a survey of the oddest questions we were ever
>>> asked,
>>> I think what I was asked today would go well.
>>> Sir, not for nothing, how do you go to the bathroom?  Well, the same way
>>> you
>>> do.  No, I mean, like, when you are out and not at home. Why don't you
>>> use
>>> you know like those things for old people, like disabled people?
>>> I wanted to put some humor to it, so I said:
>>> Remember what used to happen when you pressed the wrong button while
>>> dialing
>>> in to Verizon?
>>> Sorry, that's not an option, try again.
>>> She began to tell me, that a blind woman she knew had other disabilities,
>>> and also "used things to her advantage."  I realized what she was getting
>>> at, the clustering affect.  One size fits all.
>>> Have a great day.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 10:50 PM, "Brandon Keith Biggs"
>>> <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> No,
>>>> We use these things called food patches we swipe over our arm that puts
>>> the nourishment for a good sized meal into our bloodstream. They are used
>>> completely by feel with Braille labels so we don't need any help with
>>> them.
>>> That way we are never in need of wasting extra time eating and doing this
>>> horribly unnatural thing called socializing over dinner. If for some
>>> reason
>>> we are allergic to the substance excreted by the patches, we can bring
>>> around a personalized IV that is permanently attached to our arm,
>>> injecting
>>> our meals directly into our vain. If a blind person ever touches a fork
>>> they
>>> are in danger of stabbing themselves in the eye which is in front of
>>> them,
>>> but because they can't see is magically put in the way of any sharp
>>> object
>>> they may handle. If they eat solid food they may become poisoned because
>>> they can't see the germs to keep from consuming bad food.
>>>> In all cases blind people are never to be given dinner except in their
>>>> arm
>>> patches.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Nusbaum
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 7:14 PM
>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>> 
>>>> Huh? Don't humans need food to survive? I guess they think blind
>>>> people have a very short lifespan then, LOL.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>>> Public Relations Committee
>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of justin
>>>> williams
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:12 PM
>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>> 
>>>> I've had people ask me or my friends if I would be capable of eating
>>>> dinner on a date.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris
>>>> Nusbaum
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 8:28 PM
>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>> 
>>>> How about when a sighted person asks you: "How do you eat? Does
>>>> somebody feed you?" Yes, that literally happened to me a couple weeks
>>>> ago.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Nusbaum, Co-Chair
>>>> Public Relations Committee
>>>> Maryland Association of Blind Students
>>>> Phone: (443) 547-2409
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joshua
>>>> Lester
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 6:15 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>> 
>>>> Exactly!
>>>> Also, I get a little adgitated when a sighted person asks me how I watch
>>> TV!
>>>> I, of course, explain to them that I listen to what's said, and I can
>>>> tell somewhat, what's going on with the sound affects.
>>>> Sometimes, audio descriptions would help, though!
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Arielle
>>>> Silverman [arielle71 at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 5:11 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>> 
>>>> It reminds me of a time when I rented a movie with two blind friends
>>>> and my sighted fiancee. We had to keep adjusting our seating
>>>> configuration so he could see the video screen (obviously the three of
>>>> us blind folks were just listening, so it didn't matter where we sat
>>>> in the room). Eventually it struck me that here was a situation where
>>>> the lone sighted person was the one with "special needs" because he
>>>> needed
>>> an accommodation that we didn't.
>>>> Of course I love him dearly and this is not an attack on him or on
>>>> sighted people. But it makes you think about where the supposed
>>>> tragedy of blindness really comes from. If you alter the group
>>>> dynamics just a little bit, blind people can be equal or even
>>>> advantaged.
>>>> Arielle
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/21/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Lol. That is funny.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon
>>>>> Keith Biggs
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 4:27 PM
>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I'm pretty sure this is a gag, most of their other articles seem
>>>>> pretty ridiculous as well. I may write an article on how to prep a
>>>>> room for a sighted person.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Make sure lights are turned on and not facing toward the door.
>>>>> Sighted people don't like walking into dark rooms. They also don't
>>>>> like walking into
>>>>> 
>>>>> bright lights, so one needs to find the perfect balance.
>>>>> Open the curtains if it is day time, even if it is really warm
>>>>> outside and the AC is on. Sighted people love to have the sun shining
>>>>> into their house even though it raises the electrical bill. Make sure
>>>>> print labels on food and appliances aren't covered by anything so the
>>>>> sighted person can feel comfortable reading the familiar labels. If
>>>>> there aren't already print labels on something, make sure they are
>>>>> printed in at least 12 point font with black letters on a white
>>>>> background. Make sure your TV screen is on and
>>>>> 
>>>>> make sure your computer screen shows what you are doing at all times.
>>>>> If you
>>>>> 
>>>>> wish to be safe, slow down your screen reader so the sighted person
>>>>> won't feel left out of what you are doing.
>>>>> If you plan on cooking with the sighted person in the house, make
>>>>> sure to wear big gloves, because it raises the anxiety level of the
>>>>> sighted person seeing someone cutting and using hot items without
>>> protection.
>>>>> If you follow all these instructions, you will be able to interact
>>>>> with a sighted person comfortably in your house.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Josh Gregory
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:58 PM
>>>>> To: Misty Dawn Bradley ; National Association of Blind Students
>>>>> mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's all good, we all make mistakes sometimes, :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Misty Dawn Bradley
>>>>> <mistydbradley at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I am sorry, but I meant to say EHow rather than EZine Articles in my
>>>>>> earlier post.
>>>>>> Misty
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "justin williams"
>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:26 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is important to read their trash.  Remember, other people are,
>>>>>>> and to their mind, they no things about you.  You can more easily
>>>>>>> refute them if you have some idea on what people are saying.  You
>>>>>>> can't advocate without proper information.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Josh
>>>>>>> Gregory
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 3:18 PM
>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Joshua, you don't want to read their trash, so you say, but you
>>>>>>> say that it is important to educate them. I get that, but if you
>>>>>>> read it, you can assist in educating them. Doing nothing is not a
>>>>>>> good idea here, and when
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> get a chance in a bit, I'm going to find these articles and see
>>>>>>> what they're like.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 3:11 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I don't want to read their trash.
>>>>>>>> If they have something negative to say, I'd usually E-Mail them
>>>>>>>> and give
>>>>>>> them my take on the matter, and teach them some old school NFB
>>>>>>> philosophy!
>>>>>>>> Does EHow have a captcha on their contact form?
>>>>>>>> BTW, the ideas come from the ignorant people that don't know
>>>>>>>> anything, and
>>>>>>> have never seen a blind person do anything independently!
>>>>>>>> We need to do something, and I posted a suggestion on another
>>>>>>>> thread that
>>>>>>> I just started.
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie
>>>>>>>> Gilmer
>>>>>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:56 PM
>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> They are no gag. They are on a well viewed and well shared site.
>>>>>>>> You think
>>>>>>> we all are not tired? Saying nothing does nothing but allows them
>>>>>>> to go on, unimpeded. There was just an article about the real and
>>>>>>> large problem of employment discrimination for blind people. Where
>>>>>>> do the ideas come from?
>>>>>>> how do they go on and on and on? Doing nothing does nothing to
>>>>>>> correct or stop. It makes me terribly sad and dismayed to hear
>>>>>>> "they are not worth my time". Is correcting even one mind which may
>>>>>>> affect a blind person's employment or education worth your time?
>>>>>>> what if that blind person is you?
>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Those articles aren't worth my time, if they're going to paint a
>>>>>>>>> terrible
>>>>>>> picture of blindness!
>>>>>>>>> I'm tired of these negative ideas that come from the 16th century
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> before!
>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Carrie
>>>>>>>>> Gilmer
>>>>>>> [carrie.gilmer at gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 1:31 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ehow.com/how_2040980_care-blind-person.html
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> There are links on the pages of articles to a good dozen
>>>>>>>>> more...one is
>>>>>>> also titled "how to feed a blind person"
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What kind of blind person can they possibly be depicting? There
>>>>>>>>> is no
>>>>>>> distinguishing between a newly blinded person from a major auto
>>>>>>> accident practically in  a coma or a child with multiple
>>>>>>> disabilities, or a 90 year old in feeble health or visually
>>>>>>> impaired teenager in good health or a normal person born blind.
>>>>>>>>> The aura of tragedy and burden and superhuman challenge abounds.
>>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 21, 2013, at 1:00 PM, "justin williams"
>>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Where are the articles?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>> Gilmer
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:49 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Blind Kid Mailing List; National Association of Blind
>>>>>>>>>> Students
>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] eHow internet article series on blindness
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hello all~
>>>>>>>>>> I discovered last night a series of articles written and posted
>>>>>>>>>> on eHow concerning blindness. they are misleading at best,
>>>>>>>>>> horrifically bad perpetuated falsehoods at worst.  I had only
>>>>>>>>>> viewed four of them last
>>>>>>> night
>>>>>>>>>> and had to stop, I was so upset. This morning a friend pointed
>>>>>>>>>> out that
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> was mentioned and partially quoted in another one! I was
>>>>>>>>>> completely
>>>>>>> unaware,
>>>>>>>>>> and found upon reading it, it is in the midst of misleading and
>>>>>>>>>> mixed messages and not an accurate portrayal from the article or
>>>>>>>>>> from our
>>>>>>> life!,
>>>>>>>>>> I believe it was pulled from. The same is true for a friend of
>>>>>>>>>> mine also "quoted" in the same article! one of the articles is
>>>>>>>>>> titled "How to set
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> table for a blind person", yes, seriously. "How to care for a
>>>>>>>>>> blind person"...They are Just dripping with condescending
>>>>>>>>>> dramatic language
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> ideas! They appear to name the NFB (named National Federation
>>>>>>>>>> FOR the
>>>>>>> Blind)
>>>>>>>>>> as a reference!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I strongly encourage you to read the articles in the series and
>>>>>>>>>> write complaints both individually and as groups, with reasoned
>>>>>>>>>> argument
>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>>>> to false points. There are multiple authors, so letters naming
>>>>>>>>>> problems
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> each article are needed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We must get these off the internet.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Contact for complaint for eHow:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO HAS COMPLAINT OR KNOWS ANYTHING
>>>>>>>>>> ACCURATE ABOUT BLINDNESS TO WRITE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO EHOW!!!!
>>>>>>>>>> I will be doing it one
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> each ridiculous article!! i believe if they get enough coherent
>>>>>>>>>> and reasonable complaints they will take these down
>>>>>>>>>> permanently...as per
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> policy on misinformation!:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Further Information If you have a complaint, you may contact us
>>>>>>>>>> at eHow, Inc. Legal Department, 5808 Lake Washington Blvd. Ste.
>>>>>>>>>> 300, Kirkland,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> WA
>>>>>>>>>> 98033, U.S.A. If you are a California resident, the Complaint
>>>>>>>>>> Assistance Unit of the Division of Consumer Services of the Dept.
>>>>>>>>>> of Consumer
>>>>>>> Affairs
>>>>>>>>>> may be contacted at 400 R Street, Sacramento, CA 95814 or (800)
>>>>>>>>>> 952-5210
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Carrie
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
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