[nabs-l] PDF Files

[Joshua Lester]

PDF's are a pain!
Get this mess!
One of my favorite Southern Gospel quartets sent me their newsletter as a PDF, and Jaws read the attachment just fine, but if there's a PDF as a link on a Website, it won't read it!
Good grief!
What's the deal?
Thanks, Joshua
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From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Hannah Chadwick [sparklylicious at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:02 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] PDF Files

Adobe processes the files, but I think it's probably a picture
because after it is processed, nothing happens.  When I try to
get Jaws to read it, there doesn't seem to be anything there.
I've been using Robobraille.

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From: minh ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com
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<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:25:10 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] PDF Files

What do you mean adobi doesn't read the file? Does jaws say
"alert,
document is empty" or something along those lines? If it does,
the
document has been scanned in as a picture and there's really no
way fo
ryou to read it except use Kurzweil or robobraille to convert
them.

On 11/4/13, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
 Cindy,
 I've tried adobe.  However, when I open the file, Jaws won't
read it.  is
 there something I can purchase to make it more accessible?
 Thank you, Hannah

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Cindy Bennett
 Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 10:54 PM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] PDF Files

 Hi Hannah,

 Most of the PDF's that I use are accessible through Adobe's
accessibility
 feature.  For me, it comes up automatically when I open a PDF,
but it is
 under the accessibility tab under the edit menu.  There are a
series of
 boxes, but I just keep the recommended settings, and Adobe does
an OCR.  I
 will say that although it is pretty successful with text, tables
and
 graphics are messy.

 Most commonly, I have a problem with Adobe combining strings of
words with
 no spaces or not interpreting a page that has multiple columns
as such and
 so I hear paragraphs out of order.  Also, I have found that hand
scanned in
 documents cannot be read well by the Adobe OCR.

 In this case, I use Kerzweil which is an OCR software.  There
are others
 such
 as ABBYY Fine Reader.  A good OCR option can be considered a
reasonable
 accommodation if your state has something comparable to a
Division of
 Services for the Blind, so funding is typically available for
it.

 I do not know how to use the OCR function of JAWS 14.

 One workaround would be to see if you can find the file
somewhere else.  For
 example, professors would sometimes give out readings from
journals and I
 could find accessible versions on my library's website.
 If they are excerpts from novels, you could look on websites
such as
 bookshare.

 That being said, I am not well versed at OCR options that are
good with
 math, foreign languages, or any subject with symbols.  I think
there is a
 math solution called Infinty Reader, but this may be for
textbook scanning.

 Cindy

 On 11/3/13, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
 Hello list,
 I'm currently using Jaws 14 with my windows 7 pc.  It seems that
a lot
 of documents, especially academic ones are in pdf files.  I was
just
 wondering how you read these file types? I've been converting
most of
 them in to word files, however when I do, they become very
messy.  I
 look forward to your responses.
 Best, Hannah chadwick
 University of California, Davis CA


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