[nabs-l] PDF Files

Hannah Chadwick sparklylicious at gmail.com
Tue Nov 5 05:17:05 UTC 2013


Julie,
Yes, I have it here as well. It's kind of a last minute thing though so I
can't do that for this paper. However, I'm thinking I might do that in the
future as well as check out some of the other options people have mentioned.
Thanks, Hannah

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From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 9:13 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] PDF Files

Hi Hannah,

I don't know if this is an option for you, but do you have assistive tech
people at your university?  Are there people who scan your books for you or
deal with other alternative formatting or assistive technology issues?  I do
not have scanning software, so when I do a research project and collect
printed books or inaccessible PDFs, I send them to our adaptive computing
department.  I get them back days later in the format of my choice.  It
saves me a lot of time and frustration.  Plus, they clean the documents up
better than I ever could on my own.

On 11/4/13, Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu> wrote:
> Thanks!
> Now, if only Jaws 13 would work correctly with the stuff I have to 
> deal with in my online class, that would be awesome!
> That's a conversation for another thread!
> Thanks, Joshua
> ________________________________________
> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Steve Jacobson 
> [steve.jacobson at visi.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 9:03 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] PDF Files
>
> Joshua,
>
> There is a setting within Adobe Acrobat that determines if a PDF link 
> is opened within the web browser or whether it is opened in a new 
> window.  If you set that option to open in a new window, you will have 
> better results.  Open Adobe Reader, bring up Preferences with 
> CONTROL-K, use the arrow keys to navigate to the Internet entry, Then 
> tab to the "display within Browser"
> checkbox and uncheck it, and perhaps tab to the next box that allows 
> fast view from browser and uncheck that, too.  Then tab to OK.  You 
> should have better luck after doing this.  The exact location and 
> label of these checkboxes may vary with the version of Acrobat Reader 
> that you have installed.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
> On Mon, 4 Nov 2013 23:13:52 +0000, Joshua Lester wrote:
>
>>PDF's are a pain!
>>Get this mess!
>>One of my favorite Southern Gospel quartets sent me their newsletter 
>>as a  PDF, and Jaws read the attachment just fine, but if there's a 
>>PDF as a  link on
> a Website, it won't read it!
>>Good grief!
>>What's the deal?
>>Thanks, Joshua
>>________________________________________
>>From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Hannah Chadwick  
>>[sparklylicious at gmail.com]
>>Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:02 PM
>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] PDF Files
>
>>Adobe processes the files, but I think it's probably a picture because 
>>after it is processed, nothing happens.  When I try to get Jaws to 
>>read it, there doesn't seem to be anything there.
>>I've been using Robobraille.
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: minh ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com
>>To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:25:10 -0500
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] PDF Files
>
>>What do you mean adobi doesn't read the file? Does jaws say "alert, 
>>document is empty" or something along those lines? If it does, the 
>>document has been scanned in as a picture and there's really no way fo 
>>ryou to read it except use Kurzweil or robobraille to convert them.
>
>>On 11/4/13, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Cindy,
>> I've tried adobe.  However, when I open the file, Jaws won't read it.  
>>is  there something I can purchase to make it more accessible?
>> Thank you, Hannah
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy 
>>Bennett
>> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 10:54 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] PDF Files
>
>> Hi Hannah,
>
>> Most of the PDF's that I use are accessible through Adobe's 
>>accessibility  feature.  For me, it comes up automatically when I open 
>>a PDF, but it is  under the accessibility tab under the edit menu.  
>>There are a series of  boxes, but I just keep the recommended 
>>settings, and Adobe does an OCR.  I  will say that although it is 
>>pretty successful with text, tables and  graphics are messy.
>
>> Most commonly, I have a problem with Adobe combining strings of words 
>>with  no spaces or not interpreting a page that has multiple columns 
>>as such and  so I hear paragraphs out of order.  Also, I have found 
>>that hand scanned in  documents cannot be read well by the Adobe OCR.
>
>> In this case, I use Kerzweil which is an OCR software.  There are 
>>others  such  as ABBYY Fine Reader.  A good OCR option can be 
>>considered a reasonable  accommodation if your state has something 
>>comparable to a Division of  Services for the Blind, so funding is 
>>typically available for it.
>
>> I do not know how to use the OCR function of JAWS 14.
>
>> One workaround would be to see if you can find the file somewhere 
>>else.  For  example, professors would sometimes give out readings from 
>>journals and I  could find accessible versions on my library's 
>>website.
>> If they are excerpts from novels, you could look on websites such as  
>>bookshare.
>
>> That being said, I am not well versed at OCR options that are good 
>>with  math, foreign languages, or any subject with symbols.  I think 
>>there is a  math solution called Infinty Reader, but this may be for 
>>textbook scanning.
>
>> Cindy
>
>> On 11/3/13, Hannah Chadwick <sparklylicious at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello list,
>> I'm currently using Jaws 14 with my windows 7 pc.  It seems that a 
>>lot  of documents, especially academic ones are in pdf files.  I was 
>>just  wondering how you read these file types? I've been converting 
>>most of  them in to word files, however when I do, they become very 
>>messy.  I  look forward to your responses.
>> Best, Hannah chadwick
>> University of California, Davis CA
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Julie McG
National Association of Guide dog Users board member,  National Federation
of the Blind performing arts division secretary, Missouri Association of
Guide dog Users President, and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008 "For
God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who
believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life."
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