[nabs-l] Over Night College Visit

Sun Nov 10 21:01:56 UTC 2013

Peter, have you ever had a guide?

On 11/10/2013 4:00 PM, Peter Donahue wrote:
> Good afternoon Ashley and everyone,
>
>      If the person in question cannot handle their dog especially in new
> situations one wonders how they managed to graduate from guide dog training.
> If the guide dog program had done its job well its students should leave
> being able to handle their dogs in new situations with ease.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 2:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Over Night College Visit
>
>
> Lizzy,
>
> I agree with Joshua. I'm a cane user btw.
> You seem unsure of handling your new dog in a new environment.
> I would leave your dog at home and let your family care for him or her.
> It’s a brief time so it should not mess up
> any working time you have.
>
> I think it will be less stressful and easier for you to navigate the campus
> with just your cane. You can have more tactile contact with surfaces then.
> You'd also have to plan to take your dog out to relieve him or herself and
> you don't know where that is.
>
> I would also be concerned about what  you said regarding the dog's behavior.
> Remember you want to present a good professional appearance. Points are
> that:
> 1. the dog  is very excited around new people. Keep in mind you are meeting
> all new very important people.
> 2. Her behavior is unpredictable. I believe a dog would be a distraction in
> such a situation when visiting a class.
> 3. The dog is sniffy in new environments and it interferes with her work.
> 4. You might offend people with the dog's untrained behavior.
>
> I have to say that I've seen new guide dogs act like you describe and it
> bothers me. I want to enjoy myself especially if I'm at a restaurant. But
> when I have dogs sniffing or licking me, its offensive. I do not! want to
> have dog saliva  on me when food is around. I do not want it on me if I
> cannot wash my hands. I do not want dogs rubbing against me because it can
> get dog hair on my slacks when I'm out and the dog hair shows.
> Now, do I like dogs? Yes, yes. I like dogs to play with in the yard or at a
> house when I'm dressed down. But when I'm dressed in slacks and a nice
> blouse, the last thing I want if a sniffy dog at my side or a dog licking
> me.
>
> There are plenty other times to work with and train your dog without going
> to the campus with her at this time.
> I think you two need to work together more and you have a chance to train
> and correct her so she exhibits more of a guide dog behavior.
> So, I'd keep the dog home. You can always revisit
> campus with your dog if you decide to go there.
>
> Speaking from experience, I find it offensive when guide dogs lick me. Now,
> if they are off harness its fine; they are just a dog then and not working.
> But when in the harness, I expect them not to bother me.
>
> Finally, if you choose to take your pooch, tell the campus. You should be in
> a room with someone who isn't alergic to dogs.
>
> Ashley
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lizzy
> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:44 AM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Over Night College Visit
>
> Hi All,
> I usually just read the outstanding advice given on this list,
> but now I am in need of some help.  I am currently a senior in
> high school going not for my first college visit, but to my first
> over night visit and it is at my number one choice school.  To
> all of the guide dog users, I've had my lab for about three and a
> half months now but I'm still undecided about if it would be fair
> and easier to take her with me on this trip.  My reasons are that
> I don't know the campus and so she would probably be doing a lot
> of following (which I know everyone has their own opinions
> about).  I've taught her things using the cane but it has usually
> been pretty simple (a specific doorway, bus stop etc) so I'm not
> sure if it'll work for this or not (since I'll be all over
> campus).  Also, her behavior is slightly unpredictable (typically
> she is very excited around new people and she is very sniffy in
> new places which interferes with her work and doesn't make her
> look like a trained dog).  I will be sitting in on a class, doing
> an interview, meeting with the department chair and rooming with
> a current student and I'm afraid she might offend someone who
> doesn't like dogs or vice versa someone may see me give a
> correction and be upset by it.  I haven't requested any
> accommodations because I don't really think I'll need any since
> I'll be there for less than twenty-four hours.  But is there
> anything I'm forgetting? Should I tell them ahead of time about
> the dog (if I decide to take her)? Any tips you all could give
> would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Lizzy
>
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