[nabs-l] Training centers not the real world

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Some centers may allow the students to bring their children with them. You would have to check with each individual center.

Tom Brown
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> On Nov 11, 2013, at 10:05 AM, "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Men, Thank you for that point. My friend Rohanda went blind four years ago.
> Her daughter is Ten years old. Our ehab agency wanted to send her to a
> training center. She doesn't want to leave her child. RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "minh ha" <minh.ha927 at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training centers not the real world
> 
> 
> All the proponents of training centers, NFB or otherwise keep saying
> how going to one will give blind individuals the skills they need to
> gain employment or to be successful. I'm just wondering how these
> success stories are measured? Do the majority of graduates gain
> employment afterwards because of their new found independence skills
> and are these numbers higher than those that do not attend training
> centers? Maybe it's different for me because I had vision for the
> first few years of my life, but all the skills that I've acquired over
> the years, I learned from my family and friends. I remember growing
> up, cooking was one of the activities that my best friend and I
> experimented together; she didn't know cooking skills either so we
> played around in the kitchen and taught ourselves how to use a stove,
> etc. I think we place too much responsibility on others--if I want to
> learn something, I teach myself or I ask someone who knows it to teach
> me. Furthermore, I can't see myself taking 6-9 months to essentially
> remove myself from society to focus on blindness skills so I can gain
> employment. I have had many internships and opportunities in college
> because I actually go out there and network and present myself to
> potential employers. My point is experience is the best teacher--I can
> learn all the independence skills I need at a center, but it's not
> going to do me any good without the experience.
> 
> Minh
> 
>> On 11/10/13, Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> good points thus far, and great discussion.
>>  The idea of schools for the blind (at least as I understand them) is
> that
>> students in these  schools may get  the proper instruction in skills that
>> would allow them to be  as successful in the classroom as their
> classmates.
>> They may also benefit from gaining access to sports that are adapted for
> the
>> blind where in the public school setting these things are not always
> readily
>> available .
>>  In the training center environment, you are learning skills that will
> help
>> you   become confident and competent enough to  compete and  succeed  in
> the
>> world.  in our NFB training centers, we learn the skills  that enable us
> to
>>  be successful and  gain the attitude and belief  that not only can we
>> lead  productive  successful, and meaningful lives,  but that  this should
>> be the exact expectation we should have for ourselves.
>> So, while the implication one might get is that such learning
> environments
>> shelter  people  from the “real world”, it is my view that generally
>> speaking they can serve to help you be prepared  for that “real world” in
> a
>> way that matriculating through mainstream schooling might leave  you
>> otherwise ill equipped to do.
>>   Darian
>> 
>> 
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