[nabs-l] Training centers not real world

Fri Nov 15 01:35:11 UTC 2013

I have to say that there are people that come to nfb centers because DvR has 
a contract with the center.
These people also make it sound really good and then they don't take it 
seriously.
I think those people do F off and do it at tax payers expense.
But those people are very rare and do not stay in the cetners for long 
either.
Best,
Melissa R. Green and Pj
COAGDU President
"We love because he first loved us."

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" 
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Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training centers not real world

Arielle,
Right. I'd also say that based on my experience at centers and those people
who attended various centers that any center is not a vacation.
If you treat it as such and you do not take it  seriously,
you will be asked or forced to leave.
I find RJ's comment that people took a vacation at tax payer's expense
insulting.
I'd hate to think that this expensive training went to waste.
I would hope that no center would put up with such crap.

Also, if students treated it like a vacation, then its not the center's
fault. It does not invalidate the good work a center does.
Just as not all people use their college education and go to class and take
it seriously,
not all training center students will care either.
I saw people at richmond who did not take the program seriously but went
through the motions of classes and did enough to get by.
However, I'm sure most private centers are stricter, particularly nfb
centers.
I'm sure if you  treated your training as a joke and did not come to
classes, you'd be kicked out.
Centers, like all institutions, have rules and if violated
then you cannot participate in the program.

Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: Arielle Silverman
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:05 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Training centers not real world

Going to an NFB training center is nothing like a free vacation! If
you treat the center like a vacation, you usually aren't funded to
stay beyond the first few weeks.
Arielle

On 11/13/13, Beth Taurasi <denverqueen1107 at comcast.net> wrote:
> On 11/12/2013 8:24 PM, Bridgit Pollpeter wrote:
>> Why do you assume it's the training center and not employers still
>> buying into stereotypes and negative perceptions? And the 70%
>> unemployment rate always mentioned is a little misleading because this
>> number includes children, seniors and those enable to work for health
>> reasons. So while the number is still too high, it's not 70%.
>>
>> I know blind people more than capable, out there trying to find work,
>> and many employers won't give them the time of day merely because they
>> are blind. This isn't always the case, but in my experience, the
>> untrained, under-qualified blind people sitting at home don't want to
>> work and are not out looking for employment. So the blind people seeking
>> jobs tend to be more than capable of working, but employers don't want
>> to hire blind people. This recently happened to my husband because the
>> company didn't want to deal with supplying or allowing accomodations. An
>> investigation is currently underway with this company now. He's more
>> than qualified with his degree, 15 years of work experience and
>> currently pursuing a second degree.
>>
>> And with the current economic situation, many people are sitting at home
>> unemployed. For the first time in years, college graduates are back
>> living with parents because the jobs just aren't there.
>>
>> So there's more to this picture than you present. For someone going on
>> about living in the real world, you should really consider all the
>> variables and present a bigger picture because there's more to this
>> story.
>>
>> Bridgit
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:47:31 -0500
>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
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>> It's one thing to say the NFB centethey either did not learn anything or
>> they just took a free vacation at rehabs expence!rs are top noch, but
>> the
>> proff is in the pooding. If the JNFB centers are so great like everyone
>> says
>> they are, then why are we still seeing 74 percent of blind people not
>> employed? Why is it that I know some graduates of NFB training centers
>> who
>> sit on their backsides all day and still live with their parents?
>> Apparently
>>
>>
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> I am also thinking you didn't think of those with psychiatric
> illnesses.  We are discriminated against so often we don't get jobs as
> it is, and 80% of mentally ill women who give birth to children are in
> danger of having those kids taken away.  Those kids need to be with good
> families, but I would prefer it if the judges wouldn't just stereotype
> the mentally ill in all one basket.  Training centers aren't always
> equipped to deal with dual disabilities.
> Beth
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