[nabs-l] Need some help college issues

Sat Nov 23 18:50:03 UTC 2013

Justin and all,
I believe law suits are our last, last resort.
To answer the question she could do a number of things.
She could take it up the chain of command to the president of the school, if 
needed.
She should first speak to assistant deans  or if they don't have that, speak 
to deans.
Then I think the next level is dean of administration.
She needs to let the dean of that art department know that the professor is 
refusing to work with her.
So go up the chain.

Additionally, she could take her case to a local advocacy group if one is in 
her area or get an NFB state rep involved as  an advocate.

Finally, some schools have a procedure to resolve complaints. Its called 
alternative dispute resolution where basically they hear both sides and come 
to an agreement as to what needs to be done.

I hope Bridgit has support such as friends or family. She should write 
letters to officials like the deans, but before sending them its best to 
have someone look at them and give you advice on how clear it looks and that 
its business like as opposed to emotional. Sometimes, with issues like this 
its so easy to dash off a heated letter or email and then nothing gets done.
So it does help to have someone either write it with you or at least give 
you feedback before proceeding to the recipent of that corespondence.
So, I firmly believe you exhaust all resources prior to lawsuits.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: justin williams
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:59 AM
To: tyler at tysdomain.com ; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing 
list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Need some help college issues

Where should she take it?

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
Tyler
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 9:53 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Need some help college issues

Why is it that instead of working on alternative options, everyone jumps
straight for a lawsuit? Maybe she has went through a ton of options, but why
not take it higher rather than say "o gawd nfb time lets sue lets sue lets
sue o yeah lawsuit!"
On 11/22/2013 4:49 AM, Joshua Lester wrote:
> Bridget!
> Good grief!
> You've already gone the nice route, so now it's time to contact Chris
Danielson, and get the NFB involved!
> Can anyone say lawsuit?
> I wouldn't reckomend suing unless you've exhausted all of your options,
but it looks like you have!
> Good grief!
> Blessings, Joshua
> ________________________________________
> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Bobbi Pompey
> [pompey2010 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:54 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Need some help college issues
>
> This is ridiculous. Based on the info provided, you have spoken with DS
and professors. And both haven given you I ignorant, insensitive, rude, and
most importantly illegal feedback. In my opinion this is the proper time to
work your way up the chain of command. Talk to the head of
departments/colleges that the class falls under. Talk to the department
chair over DS. And need be, talk to the Chanselor. Document everything that
had occurred and remind them of their legal obligations. I'm not saying sue
or threaten to sue them. But in my experiences, Judy saying the word
"illegal" scares them because they don't want a lawsuit. Plus it lets them
know that you know your rights.
>
> I've had similar situations and this is what I did. I hope this helps!
>
> Bobbi A. L. Pompey
> (336) 988-6375
> pompey2010 at yahoo.com
> http://pompey2050.wix.com/bobbi-pompey
>
>> On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:26 AM, Bridget Walker <bridgetawalker13 at aol.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>> I have reached a point where I need all the help I can get. First it
helps to have some background. My primary disability is blindness due to a
TBI. I have another component to my condition which is spastic CP.
>> So I am now a junior, an education major, and think I have it all. At
least that's how the semester starts.
>> I need to know what do I do if due to my secondary disabilities that are
not blindness professors either refuse to accommodate me all together or
focus on one disability and not the other?
>> My next question is in the area of equal access. I am all for advocating
for yourself in this area and using whatever you have to get the job done.
>> One of my professors uses google sites and although I made her along with
DS aware of the accessibility problem I am still required to use the site. I
sent everyone the letter Sean sent the list with my explanation but they
don't care.
>> Now we move on to art. I'm taking a sculpture class nice and tactile. The
professor refuses to grade me because I'm blind and have CP. I can't see and
can't move my hands the way other people do. She said I receive a pass fail
for the class and am required to do everything but not for an actual letter
grade. She told me at the start I can see powerpoints. Ok no if I read
Braille, have a guide dog, and get migraines when I use my eyes I don't
think I can see. DS didn't even back me up I had to bring my eye report to
the head of the art department to prove my disability. Let's add in the part
there is already documentation about my disability at DS.
>> Finally we get to math. Let me say I knew math was going to be a
challenge. My book is I not accessible on my math lab with jaws 15. The
college wanted me to downgrade my screen reader and my IE version so my math
lab might work. I tested it with an older version of jaws and windows seven
it is not compatible as far spas I know. Bigger point I should not be
downgrading my technology for a book.
>> Then to have them say what is the big deal?
>> We have an embosser on campus. We are lucky. I have Braille as an
accommodation but, we need someone to Braille my tests because I can't
that's not ok and DS is not trained. DS has brailled before and did well
they just won't do it I guess a confidence thing. So I have to take my tests
with jaws. Jaws and math are not a good combo.
>> I just want to know what do people think of all of this?
>> I have met with as many resources on campus to reach a common ground and
I get nowhere.
>> I have a year and a half left. I don't want it to be like this.
>> I feel like I take five steps forward and ten steps back.
>> Thanks
>> Bridget
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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