[nabs-l] Fwd: [Cabs] TVI Braille Training

Fri Oct 11 17:40:41 UTC 2013

Hi,

Minh has an excellent point.  I've heard accounts from some TVIs who
say they love their jobs and feel like their cohorts did a wonderful
job of preparing them for the field... granted, all these people from
what I could tell are proficient in braille.  On the other hand, I did
a research paper on braille literacy a few years ago and found some
deplorable reports of TVIs who did not know their stuff and put
minimal effort into teaching their students.

I also think that the codes TVIs are tested on need to be questioned.
Does braille proficiency just include literary braille?  Does it
include codes for chemistry and science, Nemeth, or both?  What about
the music code?  The worst memory I have of working with my TVI was
that when she did not know the music code, she discouraged me from
learning it to try to cover up her lack of knowledge in that area.
Instead of saying, "I am not prepared to teach you that but I can help
you find someone who is," she said, "Why would you want to learn
that?"  Years later, the music code is the code I use a lot of the
time, only second to literary braille.

Does proficiency mean only proficient in some things, or proficient in
them all?  I get that codes like music are not used by every student
or may not seem as important as Nemeth and chem, but shouldn't the
teacher be prepared to teach any code if it appears to be something
the student will frequently use in their academic pursuits?

On 10/11/13, Ashley Coleman <amc05111 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> There is a TVI program in North Carolina.
>
> Ashley
> On 10/10/2013 9:48 PM, Kaiti Shelton wrote:
>> Also, what he might do is look at TVI training programs and examine
>> how much braille they actually teach.
>>
>> The TVI I had from kindergarten through the 8th grade was very old
>> school in her teaching and knew her stuff really well.  She went to
>> vanderbuilt to study braille, (I am not sure Vanderbuilt has a program
>> any more) and said that when she was tested on the code she was
>> blindfolded and told to braille signs on the Perkins Brailler.  That
>> was how the professors at Vanderbuilt made sure their students were
>> proficient in braille.  I don't know if she had to read it with her
>> fingers or not, but she could write it really well even years later as
>> a TVI.  She was fabulous, and I'm not saying there aren't fabulous
>> TVIs out there today because I know a lot who are, but I'm not sure if
>> that kind of proficiency is being stressed in all schools.
>>
>> It also might be interesting to consider the decline of standards in
>> TVI education, or research that even if it's just one part of the
>> report.
>>
>> Just a thought.
>>
>>
>> On 10/10/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think North Carolina does not teach braille; but be sure I am right
>>> before
>>> you use that.   I remember hearing something to that effect.  If I am
>>> wrong,
>>> someone please correct me.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle
>>> Silverman
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:49 PM
>>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: [Cabs] TVI Braille Training
>>>
>>> Anyone have any ideas for JJ?
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: JJ Aragon <mistyluna at fastmail.fm>
>>> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:40:22 -0600
>>> Subject: [Cabs] TVI Braille Training
>>> To: cabs at nfbnet.org, jbeecham at cocenter.org, slabarre at labarrelaw.com,
>>> Lisa
>>> Bonderson <lbonderson at labarrelaw.com>
>>>
>>> Hello Friends,
>>>    For my English class I have been asked to write an 8-page  researched
>>>    proposal. This proposal must address an educational issue within a
>>>    specified school/state/district. I would like to find a TVI college
>>>    training program that lacks in Braille training and propose an
>>>    improved curriculum. I'm having trouble narrowing down and finding
>>>    such a program, though. Can any of you think of a TVI program that I
>>>    could write about? Your input would be greatly appreciated.
>>>    Please know that this paper is for my and my teacher's use only. Feel
>>>    free to share your experiences/annecdotes. I will not use anything
>>> you
>>>    share without your permission. Also, please forward this message to
>>>    anyone you think could help.
>>> Best,
>>> JJ Aragon - University of Northern Colorado ...Addicted to the written
>>> word...
>>>
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Kaiti