[nabs-l] voice lessons help needed

Doug Oliver oliver.doug1 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 14 23:57:32 UTC 2013 

Good luck on your issue Kelsey.


-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaiti Shelton
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 6:30 PM
To: louvins at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] voice lessons help needed

Hi Kelsey,

I am a jaws user and have used ITunes to burn CDs several times.  It just
takes a lot of tabbing around to find the burn CD button.  I'd recommend
running an older version of ITunes with the tree view on the screen all the
time, not the newer ones which hide it and make you jump through hoops to
get to it.  Just make a playlist and when you find a song in your library
you want to add to the playlist, just hit the applications key and go down
to add playlist.  Once your CD of backing tracks is done, just go to the
playlist, find the burn CD button, and everything else should be accessible
with JAWS too.

This is only applicable if you want to study with him.  If you're looking
for good vocal training, it might be worth paying a higher rate for better
instruction.  Back-up or karaoke tracks are really tacky, not to mention
very measured so they might hinder your performance as a musician.  It's
really hard to be musical with a backing track because even if you pull off
the vocals, the instrumental part of the piece doesn't match, you can't take
liberties like playing with time, and instead of having the accompaniment
follow you it can in some cases be the other way around.

I'd look into the other teachers around you.  I can sympathize on the
financial end of things as the budget is tight for any student, but I'd
rather spend the money well and have positive results than to have it go to
waste.

On 10/14/13, Joshua Hendrickson <louvins at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Kelsey.  I have never taken voice lessons before, but your 
> situation is interesting.  I am a guitar player so, if I wanted to 
> take voice lessons, I wouldn't want to use backing tracks at all.  I 
> would go to a voice teacher, so I could improve my singing technique 
> and that's all.  Personally, I don't like backing tracks at all.  If I 
> learn a song on the guitar to sing at church, I play along with the 
> original song which includes vocals, and not just music.  For a lot of 
> the kind of old country and bluegrass songs I play along with, there 
> wouldn't be any backing tracks to use even if I wanted them.  So if a 
> voice teacher told me, they wanted me to bring along a backing track, 
> to some bluegrass song, I'd have to tell that person the track doesn't 
> exist.  Good luck.  I use express burn if I need to make cd's, and it 
> is a very very good program for burning cd's.  I'd highly recommend 
> it.  Good luck.
>
> On 10/14/13, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kelsey, I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I've 
>> recently discovered a website called www.musescore.com. It's designed 
>> to be a source of music for people who play instruments such as piano 
>> or violin or whatever. People can go to the website and listen to 
>> songs for free. I don't use JAWS, so I'm not sure how accessible it 
>> is.
>>
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Greg Aikens <gpaikens at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 17:04:21 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] voice lessons help needed
>>
>> Your question made me curious so I did a couple of quick searches in 
>> the iTunes store.  I found several tracks when I searched for 
>> "performance track" and "accompaniment track."  There may be other 
>> phrases that will get you more results.  Most of what I saw was pop 
>> music, musicals, and christian music.  I'm sure if you had something 
>> specific you were looking for, you could try that search and find 
>> something better.
>>
>> As to burning CDs with JAWS, this used to work well with Windows 
>> Media Player.  I don't use iTunes on a windows machine much so can't 
>> speak to that.  But, why not just load the track on your iPod and 
>> take it to your lesson?  Your teacher likely has a way to connect an 
>> mp3 player to his stereo, unless he has already told you that you 
>> need a CD.
>>
>> The amazon mp3 store is also very accessible.  You could try 
>> searching there too.
>>
>> Best of luck,
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Kelsey Nicolay 
>> <piano.girl0299 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Hello,
>>  I am currently shopping around for a voice teacher.  I have found a 
>> couple.  However, one teacher has a requirement that I am not sure I 
>> can to meet.  The teacher is a vocal coach who teaches his lessons 
>> based on his performance experience.  He teaches all styles of music.  
>> However, he does not play an instrument.  So he requests that his 
>> students obtain backing tracks for the songs they want to sing.  
>> Since I use JAWS, I don't know if there is a way I can do this.  Most 
>> of the web sites that have these are not very accessible.  I could 
>> use itunes, but I have not found a reliable method for burning CD's 
>> without using the mouse.  So I have no idea how this could be done.  
>> I would think that walking into a lesson carrying a laptop is not 
>> practical.  I play piano, so do you think I could avoid this by 
>> saying that I could play the chords on the piano? Someone who has 
>> gone through this, please help.  I would like to study with him since 
>> his rate is reasonable, at $10 per half hour.  He does know that I am 
>> visually impaired and is fine with that issue.  However, I just don't 
>> know how to deal with this issue.  If you have ever burned a CD using 
>> JAWS, how do you do it? Itunes is what I normally use, but if I have 
>> to do it with Windows Media player, I could do it.
>> The only reason I prefer itunes is because I use an ipod.  Or is 
>> there another free source where I can find backing tracks which would 
>> be more accessible? Is youtube good? I've used it for other things, 
>> but I have found that JAWS tends to interfere with the video a lot.  
>> So, fellow JAWS users, what do you recommend? Can I use the excuse 
>> that I cannot get a backing track because of the issues I described 
>> above?
>>  Thanks,
>>  Kelsey Nicolay
>>
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