[nabs-l] Subscribing to The Student Slate

Sat Sep 7 22:26:40 UTC 2013

Hi Liz and all,

I'd like to apologize, as I have been very busy lately and missed
Roanna's other emails about the Slate, so I thought that you  were
only responding to her latest query. Knowing the full story  now, I
think your response was appropriate.
My last message was meant to be a general one to everyone about
communication with the NABS board. I wasn't scolding you personally
which was why I didn't use your name and why I sent it to the entire
list. Over several administrations various people have talked about a
lack of board response. This does not appear to be a problem with a
particular NABS administration, as the issue has been raised to at
least four NABS administrations to my knowledge (including mine), but
I think is simply a consequence of being part of a national
organization run by volunteers. I think this is important feedback for
the board to have and to continually pay attention to. On the other
hand, though, I also think it's important for all NABS members to have
some patience and to be persistent if their initial questions go
unanswered.

Best,
Arielle

On 9/7/13, Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Arielle,
>
> I have reread your message after getting some much needed sleep, and I
> cannot help but notice that you seemed to have seen my message as some sort
>
> of complaint. I cannot help but wonder, how is it that my message is seen as
>
> a complaint while your message is not despite the fact that they appear to
> convey the same kind of message?
>
> I spent about a week away from this email list to attend to some personal
> matters in my life. When I returned to the list, I saw Roanna sent out a
> message about subscribing to the Student Slate on August 21, 2013. I was not
>
> completely sure what she was referring to in her message, so I thought I
> would check out the website to find out what she was talking about before
> responding to her message. However, by the time I was about to respond to
> her message, I saw she posted a second message about a week after her
> initial post.
>
> I thought it was rather sad that no one from the NABS board or Slate
> committee responded to her post. It does not seem unreasonable to expect
> someone from the NABS board to respond to an email within the week in which
>
> it was posted. This is why I offered an apology as a part of my response to
>
> her message.
>
> I then went on to provide what information I could in regards to this issue
>
> as a general member. If you feel as though this information is incorrect,
> then perhaps you may wish to encourage the NABS board to communicate with
> the general membership on public forums such as this one on a more regular
> basis.
>
> In the past, the NABS board has done a good job posting issues of the
> Student Slate to all of the student email lists. However, it would appear as
>
> though the last issue of the Student Slate was only posted through the
> current membership database and not through the email lists. As a general
> member, I did not know if this was a permanent feature of a new delivery
> system, or simply an oversight due to convention activities. I am glad to
> hear it was nothing more than an oversight, and most likely will not happen
>
> again.
>
> However, I am not sure how I am expected to know this information as a
> general member when we do not hear from the BABS board on a regular basis. I
>
> also do not appreciate being scolded for doing my best to answer a question
>
> from another member on this email list despite the fact that I could not
> provide an adequate answer as a general member. I simply did my best to
> provide her with the information I knew as a general member, and then
> pointed her in the direction of someone who could provide her with more
> accurate information. I fail to see how this qualifies as some sort of
> complaint.
>
> I agree that patience is definitely the key when corresponding with the NABS
>
> board. I believe Roanna displayed this kind of patience considering the fact
>
> that she first posted her question to this list about a month ago. Please
> forgive me for not displaying this same kind of patience. I simply felt as
> though she deserved an answer to her question.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Arielle Silverman" <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:05 PM
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Subscribing to The Student Slate
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> For whatever it's worth, when I was president I think I always sent
>> the Slate out to this NABS-L list, and I'm pretty sure Sean does the
>> same. So if you are on this list you should get every issue as soon as
>> it is released.
>>
>> I would also suggest having a little patience with the NABS board
>> members. Roanna sent her inquiry early this morning and a complaint
>> about the lack of board response was sent merely an hour and a half
>> later. Even the most attentive board members may not be able to
>> respond within an hour and a half on a busy Wednesday morning at the
>> start of the semester. I would suggest waiting at least 24 hours and
>> if you still don't get a satisfactory response, you can think about
>> re-posting  your query or writing to the relevant committee chair
>> off-list. I sincerely believe the board members are trying as hard as
>> they can to be responsive.
>>
>> Best,
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 9/4/13, I. C. Bray <i.c.bray at win.net> wrote:
>>> Tony,
>>>
>>> I'm not doing RSS Feeds, but perhaps I should look into it.
>>> Will you let us know when the email module is fixed?
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tony Olivero" <anthony at olivero.us>
>>> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 4:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Subscribing to The Student Slate
>>>
>>>
>>> : Roanna,
>>> :
>>> : I have added your e-mail to the NABS mailing list.
>>> :
>>> : For everyone's information,and to clarify, the subscribe link you
>>> : clicked on brings you to what's called an RSS feed. You can add the
>>> : slate pages to a feed reader like you would a blog or news site.
>>> : Whenever a new issue is posted you would automatically see it in your
>>> : reader. I realize the language is confusing, and this week I will do
>>> : the following two things:
>>> :
>>> : 1. Change the language of that button to be a little more clear; and
>>> : 2. Get the module fixed that allows you to add yourself to that
>>> mailing
>>> list.
>>> :
>>> : Sorry for any confusion. Thanks for asking the question so we can make
>>> : it easy for everyone.
>>> :
>>> : Have a great day.
>>> :
>>> : Tony Olivero, Webmaster
>>> : National Association of Blind Students
>>> :
>>> :
>>> : On 9/4/13, Cindy Bennett <clb5590 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> : > Hi all,
>>> : >
>>> : > I hope that you are all doing well.
>>> : >
>>> : > I want to clear up any questions that anyone has about the student
>>> : > Slate and subscribing to it.
>>> : >
>>> : > First of all, I will look into the website and talk to our
>>> webmaster.
>>> : >
>>> : > I did not take the time to look through the NABS archives, but I
>>> would
>>> : > find it very surprising if we did not post the Slate to it.
>>> Currently,
>>> : > we have a database of members whose information is gathered at our
>>> : > in-person meetings (national convention and Washington Seminar) that
>>> : > we send the Slate to directly. And then, we post it to NABS and on
>>> the
>>> : > website.
>>> : >
>>> : > Roanna, I apologize that this issue has not been resolved for you,
>>> and
>>> : > I am emailing our webmaster now asking him to make sure your email
>>> : > address is on the recipient list.
>>> : >
>>> : > If anyone else is not receiving the Slate and would like their email
>>> : > address added, please feel free to respond to me offlist. Keep in
>>> mind
>>> : > that the Slate comes once a quarter. The last edition released was
>>> : > just before the national convention so that could have been cause
>>> for
>>> : > some people to miss it; I know that that time of year is usually
>>> crazy
>>> : > for me and I am not always on top of my emails.
>>> : >
>>> : > Again, on behalf of the board, I apologize for anyone's
>>> inconveniences
>>> : > in attempting to read the Slate or reach us. We appreciate the
>>> : > interest and are always looking for ideas of new articles and for
>>> more
>>> : > readers. Similarly, we want to hear from you about all of your ideas
>>> : > for NABS and questions and concerns about being a student, so please
>>> : > feel free to contact us. We do strive to stay on top of our emails,
>>> : > but I know that from personal experience, sometimes I am not as
>>> : > responsive as I should be. I know this is not ideal, but I hope that
>>> : > it does not detour you from reaching out to us again.
>>> : >
>>> : > Cindy
>>> : >
>>> : > On 9/4/13, Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> : >> Hello Roanna,
>>> : >>
>>> : >> I am sorry to hear no one from the NABS Board or the NABS Slate
>>> Committee
>>> : >> has taken the time to answer your question. Since the last issue of
>>> the
>>> : >> Student Slate was only sent out to individual NABS members and was
>>> not
>>> : >> posted on any email lists, you would think there would be some kind
>>>
>>> of
>>> : >> form
>>> : >>
>>> : >> on the website to either subscribe to the Student Slate or become a
>>> : >> member
>>> : >> so you could receive a copy of the Student Slate.
>>> : >>
>>> : >> Since you have not received an answer to your question on this
>>> email
>>> list,
>>> : >> I
>>> : >>
>>> : >> would encourage you to contact Sean Whalen off list by sending an
>>> email
>>> : >> to
>>> : >> nabs.president at gmail.com. Perhaps he might be more inclined to
>>> answer
>>> : >> your
>>> : >> question if you contact him directly. In addition, I believe you
>>> can
>>> also
>>> : >> contact the Slate Committee directly by sending an email to
>>> : >> slate at nabslink.com.
>>> : >>
>>> : >>  I hope this email points you in the right direction in receiving
>>> an
>>> : >> answer
>>> : >>
>>> : >> to your question.
>>> : >>
>>> : >> Elizabeth
>>> : >>
>>> : >> --------------------------------------------------
>>> : >> From: "Roanna Baccchus" <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>
>>> : >> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 8:26 AM
>>> : >> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> : >> Subject: [nabs-l] Subscribing to The Student Slate
>>> : >>
>>> : >>> Dear Nabs Members,
>>> : >>>
>>> : >>> I have a question for you.  Yesterday I went to the Student Slate
>>> web
>>> : >>> page.  I clicked the link that says subscribe to the Student
>>> Slate.
>>> : >>> Nothing came up that let me put in an email address or password.
>>> Is
>>> : >>> there
>>> : >>>
>>> : >>> any way to subscribe to the Student Slate.  Please respond as soon
>>>
>>> as
>>> : >>> possible.
>>> : >>>
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>>> : > Secretary: National Association of Blind Students
>>> : >
>>> : > B.A. Psychology, UNC Wilmington
>>> : > clb5590 at gmail.com
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