[nabs-l] French books?

[Dan Burke]

No, that's critical.

The codes referred to are language codes in Microsoft Word.  One of the earlier posters referred to it.   Our MS Word docs are set to English by default.  Ensuring that the portions of your textbook that appear in French are identified by Word with French language codes means that JAWS identifies them as being in French and can switch to a French voice to read them with correct pronunciation.  It further means that the Duxbury translation translates to French Braille code, not using English contractions.

The latter perhaps is not as critical if you are sticking to Grade one, but the two accents and circumflex may have different symbols in French Braille? ... that's a question.  I know that it's true in Spanish and Irish Braille.

HTH
Dan


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-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Keith Biggs
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:40 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] French books?

Hello,
What do you mean by coding the French parts as French? I have stressed 
to them over and over that I must have the acute and Grave symbols 
(Although there is circumflex in french isn't there as well)... So if I 
should tell them to do something else please let me know.
I read French Braille quite a bit (Grade 1 that is) but because it looks 
so complex, I haven't really focused on learning all the details of the 
language. But I have reference tables and I know the sounds (Kind of) of 
what each sound makes. I read German and Italian Braille fluently so I 
know about no contractions in those two languages. But I know French is 
more complex because it is the place where French began, I have to make 
sure I'm not reading French in Grade 2 because I would really die if I 
had to learn both of those symbols at once.
Thanks,

Brandon Keith Biggs

On 9/17/2013 2:35 PM, Mauricio Almeida wrote:
> on that note:
> I am interested on learning french.
> Is there any online material that is also accessible available as far
> as you all know?
> I am looking for a book, a website, a combination of the two, etc.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Mauricio
>
> On 9/17/13, Sophie Trist <sweetpeareader at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jewel, if I were you, I would let them give you the clean doc and
>> read it on your apex. That's what I do with nearly all of my
>> textbooks. French is no different. The braillenote can read
>> French. If you need to know how to get it to do that, feel free
>> to email me offlist.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Sophie
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:58:13 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] French books?
>>
>> I got my French book in Word documents. The AT specialist scanned
>> the text, then went through and set the French portions to read
>> with the JAWS French voice. Anyone can do this, but I don't
>> remember how it is done. It is also very time consuming. But it
>> allowed me to read and spell the text in French, and helped me
>> with pronunciation. I don't know how it would be done in Braille,
>> or if that would even be helpful, unless you happen to know
>> French Braille, which is different from American Braille. I would
>> suggest doing it the way I did, with the French portions of the
>> text read with the French voice. Once you have a general grasp of
>> the language, then you can work on learning French Braille, when
>> all the accents will make sense. This is just my opinion, though,
>> so you don't have to listen to me. *grins*
>> -Jewel
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2013, at 4:16 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs
>> <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   Hello,
>>   I am taking a french class this Fall quarter and my school is
>> trying to figure out how they can get me my French book. I have
>> told them that I wanted it in Braille, but they don't know what
>> the best way to get it to me is.
>>   They refused to get a French Braille transcriber because it
>> would cost $17000 and that is the whole budget of the department.
>> I asked them if they could do sections, but they were really put
>> off by that quote, so are asking for other ways to get the
>> Braille to me.
>>   I am wondering if anyone knows if:
>>   1. Putting the clean doc through DBT on the french setting and
>> giving it to me
>>   2. giving me the clean doc and I read it on my APEX
>>
>>   is the better option for me?
>>   I've never delbt with a huge French text all on its own before,
>> so don't know how my technology will interact with it.
>>   If anyone has used any of the above options please let me know.
>>   Thank you,
>>
>>   --
>>   Brandon Keith Biggs
>>
>>
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