[nabs-l] Finding seats VI that does not use cane or dog

justin williams justin.williams2 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 20 13:48:57 UTC 2013


We're also hoping to find some tactics for not talking to an empty table, or
to an empty chair.  My method is to ask if there is a free chair at this
table?  Sometimes, a seat could be being saved for another person.   The
other method is to gently and slowly feel with the cane to see fi it is
empot, or like I said before, if the chair is pushed in, to move the chair.
You can also use your hip to test as if you are brushing by, or carry a book
in your hand or something which extends over the back of the seat.  Of
course, you can still go right back to asking.  For you susan, whip out the
binocular.  Soemtimes, I will ask the people behind the counter in star
bucks if there si an empty chair or table.   Just whatever works. . 

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of christopher
nusbaum
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:11 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Finding seats VI that does not use cane or dog

That works well, as does simply approaching a seat and asking if there is
someone in it. This works especially well in a café or school cafeteria. In
my high school's cafeteria, I will usually approach a table and ask if there
are any seats there. It's slow going sometimes, but I think it's a good way
to find a seat if help isn't readily available.

Chris Nusbaum

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On Sep 20, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:

> Good morning, In my experience as a total, there's nothing wrong with
simply using the back of your hand to brush a seet back to see if it's
occupied.
>
> Also works well for finding empty seats, on a bus or rain.
> Good luck, with thaat load you carry!
> for today, CarAt 01:29 PM 9/19/2013, you wrote:
>> Not sure. I already have a lunch box on it. I can't bring smaller 
>> than half gallon because I am gone for 12 hours on Tuesday and 
>> thursday and really don't want to pay for water. I swear I need an 
>> assistant to help carry all my stuff lol.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Anjelina Cruz
<anjelinac26 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > Could a bigger thermos attach to your bag so you'd have a hand free 
>> > for a lightweight id cane?
>> >
>> > On 9/19/13, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu> wrote:
>> > > It would be very difficult I use a roller bag because I carry 
>> > > 30lbs of equipment with me portable cctv, laptop etc and then I 
>> > > have to bring 1/2 gallon of water in the other hand since I am on 
>> > > the surface of the sun in phoenix. I tried a backback but there 
>> > > is not one big enough for all the crap I bring.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:38 AM, justin williams < 
>> > > justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Carry a cane would be my answer. Without it, it is diffidult to
>> > indentify
>> > >> you as visually impaired.
>> > >>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> > >> Suzanne Germano
>> > >> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 2:12 PM
>> > >> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> > >> Subject: [nabs-l] Finding seats VI that does not use cane or dog
>> > >>
>> > >> I don't use a cane or dog but when I walk into a room like the 
>> > >> engineering tutoring center, I find it very hard to know where 
>> > >> an empty seat is.
>> > >> these
>> > >> are tables that hold 6-8 people.
>> > >>
>> > >> Being someone use does not use a cane I find people difficult if 
>> > >> you say for example "I am visually impaired would you mind 
>> > >> showing me where an empty seat is" It seems they have to go 
>> > >> through the song and dance of "you don't look blind" "why don't 
>> > >> you get glasses" but rarely answer the question.
>> > >>
>> > >> Because I am not obviously visually impaired I feel very 
>> > >> uncomfortable just walking up and down between all the tables 
>> > >> looking for a spot when just off to the side I may have missed 
>> > >> one. I feel like everyone is wondering
>> > what
>> > >> the hell I am doing and thinking I look stupid.
>> > >>
>> > >> I know this comes from years and years and years of being teased 
>> > >> and no one understanding legally blind and I should just get 
>> > >> over feeling like they think I look stupid. But in the meantime 
>> > >> does anyone have any good techniques?
>> > >>
>> > >> I did use a cane in high school. Partially for identification 
>> > >> and partly for mobility but I still had issues with people 
>> > >> because I would ALWAYS get the comment "Your not blind" They 
>> > >> could never just answer my question like what bus is this
>> > >>
>> > >> Suzanne
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