[nabs-l] Fwd: research techniques and assistance

Mon Aug 25 18:17:37 UTC 2014

That=20index=20problem=20is=20one=20of=20the=20many=20reasons=20I=20always=
=20use=20
publisher=20files=20or=20scanned=20books=20not=20audio.=20=20Another=20plac=
e=20you=20
could=20go,=20at=20least=20in=20the=20humanities=20where=20a=20lot=20of=20s=
cholarly=20
work=20is=20published=20in=20books=20not=20journal=20articles,=20is=20books=
hare.=20=20
They=20actually=20have=20a=20very=20good=20selection=20of=20academic=20book=
s=20these=20
days=20often=20including=20edited=20collections=20of=20relevant=20articles.=
=20=20If=20
your=20looking=20at=20websites,=20what=20you=20really=20want=20are=20pages=
=20with=20
.edu=20domains--they=20typically=20are=20written=20by=20professors=20
specializing=20in=20the=20area=20of=20the=20content.=20=20Also=20for=20stat=
istical=20
information=20there=20are=20many=20(usually=20relatively=20accessible)=20
government=20websites--.gov=20domains.

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Ashley=20Bramlett=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20"Derek=20Manners"=20<dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu>,"National=20
Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Mon,=2025=20Aug=202014=2013:54:50=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Fwd:=20=20research=20techniques=20and=20assista=
nce

Derek,

I=20use=20my=20textbook=20too=20for=20general=20info=20and=20an=20overview=
=20of=20
something.=20I
usually=20need=20a=20reader=20=20for=20that=20though=20because=20I=20need=20=
to=20look=20up=20
that=20in=20the
index=20and=20cannot=20do=20so=20with=20a=20audio=20version=20of=20the=20te=
xt.
Most=20of=20the=20time=20though=20its=20not=20in=20the=20text=20or=20it=E2=
=80=99s=20a=20paragraph=20
so=20its=20not
helpful.

Do=20you=20use=20the=20internet=20for=20sources=20or=20just=20to=20get=20st=
arted?=20My=20
concern=20with
internet=20is=20sites=20are=20not=20always=20authentic
but=20I've=20found=20some=20with=20.org=20domains=20to=20be=20okay=20at=20l=
east=20to=20get=20
started.

Thanks=20for=20the=20advice.

Ashley

-----Original=20Message-----
From:=20Derek=20Manners=20via=20nabs-l
Sent:=20Monday,=20August=2025,=202014=2011:11=20AM
To:=20justin=20williams=20;=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Student=
s=20
mailing=20list
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Fwd:=20research=20techniques=20and=20assistance=

I=20can't=20speak=20to=20the=20accessibility=20options=20but=20just=20gener=
ally,=20
your=20research
librarians=20are=20bored=20and=20would=20love=20to=20help=20you=20out.=20I=
=20rely=20on=20
mine=20all=20the
time.=20Also,=20I=20also=20tend=20to=20read=20a=20lot=20of=20articles=20tha=
t=20don't=20pan=20
out=20so=20I
also=20think=20this=20is=20pretty=20common.

I'd=20also=20agree=20with=20the=20comment=20about=20needing=20to=20know=20s=
omething=20
about=20the
topic.=20My=20approach=20is=20to=20google/Wikipedia=20the=20topic=20or=20to=
pics=20
first.=20Then
check=20my=20textbook=20if=20the=20topic=20is=20in=20there.=20Then=20I=20do=
=20a=20little=20
searching.
But=20if=20I=20get=20stuck,=20I=20turn=20to=20the=20research=20librarian=20=
pretty=20
quickly=20to=20get
moving.

Best
Derek

PS
I=20use=20zoom=20text=20so=20that=20is=20why=20I=20can't=20speak=20to=20the=
=20accessibility=20
options.

Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone

=20On=20Aug=2025,=202014,=20at=2010:00=20AM,=20justin=20williams=20via=20na=
bs-l
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>=20wrote:

=20Oops,=20How=20did=20that=20not=20go=20to=20the=20list?

=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20nabs-l=20[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On=20Behalf=20Of=20=

Mary
=20Fernandez
=20via=20nabs-l
=20Sent:=20Monday,=20August=2025,=202014=209:56=20AM
=20To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20Fwd:=20research=20techniques=20and=20assistance

=20I=20think=20Justin=20meant=20to=20send=20this=20to=20the=20whole=20list

=20----------=20Forwarded=20message=20----------
=20From:=20justin=20williams=20<justin.williams2 at gmail.com
=20Date:=20Mon,=2025=20Aug=202014=2009:53:05=20-0400
=20Subject:=20RE:=20[nabs-l]=20research=20techniques=20and=20assistance
=20To:=20Mary=20Fernandez=20<trillian551 at gmail.com

=20I=20take=20each=20paper=20as=20a=20separate=20entity=20as=20far=20as=20a=
ccessibility=20
is
=20concerned.
=20I=20take=20a=20day=20of=20two=20and=20just=20do=20the=20research.=20=20I=
n=20other=20words,=20I=20
have=20no
=20intent=20to=20write=20the=20paper,=20but=20to=20simply=20get=20the=20art=
icles=20I=20want=20
and
=20figure
=20out=20my=20base=20for=20the=20paper.=20=20Folks,=20I=20spend=206=20to=20=
8=20hours,=20but=20I=20
get=206=20to=207
=20articles=20and=20sometimes=20more,=20though=20I=20have=20found=20any=20m=
ore=20than=20
about=209=20or
=2010
=20more=20cumbersome=20=20then=20helpful.=20=20I=20work=20=20out=20all=20th=
e=20
accessibility=20issues
=20before=20I=20do=20anything=20with=20writing=20the=20paper.=20=20Don't=20=
forget=20your=20
nls=20books,
=20or=20books=20on=20the=20blio.=20=20Sometimes=20the=20articles=20are=20pd=
fs,=20and=20
other=20times
=20they
=20are=20web=20based;=20I=20try=20to=20stick=20to=20web=20based,=20but=20th=
at=20is=20not=20
always
=20possible.
=20Pdfs=20can=20be=20made=20accessible=20in=20a=20variety=20of=20ways,=20bu=
t=20sometimes,=20
none=20of
=20those=20ways=20are=20adequate;=20the=20article=20can=20still=20become=20=
unusable.=20=20
I=20have
=20found=20google=20scholar=20inaccessible=20for=20obtaining=20the=20articl=
es,=20If=20
someone
=20has
=20a=20tip=20for=20this,=20please=20share.=20=20I=20write=20down=20my=20cit=
ations=20for=20
each=20articles
=20and=20save=20them=20in=20a=20separate=20file.

=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20Mary=20Fernandez=20[mailto:trillian551 at gmail.com]
=20Sent:=20Monday,=20August=2025,=202014=209:44=20AM
=20To:=20justin=20williams;=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Student=
s=20
mailing=20list
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20research=20techniques=20and=20assistance

=20All,
=20I=20think=20this=20is=20a=20fabulous=20topic!=20First,=20research=20skil=
ls=20are=20
ones=20which
=20are
=20not=20necessarily=20intuitive,=20and=20which=20all=20successful=20colleg=
e=20
students=20learn
=20to=20refine=20and=20perfect=20throughout=20their=20college=20career.
=20Unfortunately,=20there=20are=20numerous=20accessibility=20barriers=20wit=
h=20
databases
=20and
=20eBooks,=20which=20others=20have=20access=20too=20readily.=20Part=20of=20=
the=20
answer,=20and
=20Ashley,=20you=20are=20on=20the=20right=20track,=20is=20to=20learn=20how=
=20to=20most=20
effectively
=20use
=20databases,=20and=20search=20tools=20like=20Google=20Scholar.
=20Most=20universities=20have=20workshops=20that=20students=20can=20attend,=
=20and=20
which=20focus
=20specifically=20on=20research,=20many=20times=20even=20by=20topic.=20Thro=
ugh=20my=20
senior=20year
=20in=20college,=20it=20wasn't=20strange=20for=20a=20class,=20which=20had=20=
a=20major=20
research
=20paper
=20do=20at=20the=20end=20of=20the=20semester,=20to=20have=20a=20class=20sch=
eduled=20at=20the=20
library,
=20and
=20have=20a=20reference=20librarian=20show=20us=20the=20tips=20and=20tricks=
.=20The=20
other=20half=20of
=20the=20equation,=20is=20to=20be=20creative=20with=20using=20your=20assist=
ive=20
software,=20a=20lot
=20of
=20times=20websites=20are=20inaccessible=20enough=20to=20be=20a=20nightmare=
,=20but=20
sometimes
=20there=20is=20a=20hidden=20work=20around,=20like=20using=20the=20differen=
t=20cursor=20
modes=20in
=20Jaws,=20right=20clicking=20instead=20of=20pressing=20enter,=20etc.=20Thi=
s=20makes=20
things
=20more
=20time=20consuming=20than=20they=20ought=20to=20be,=20but=20unfortunately,=
=20until=20
we=20can=20get
=20this=20trend=20of=20technology=20being=20developed=20inaccessibly=20reve=
rsed,=20
we=20must
=20live
=20with=20that=20reality.
=20As=20far=20as=20articles,=20that's=20part=20of=20research.=20You=20do=20=
your=20best=20to=20
narrow
=20down
=20the=20material=20you=20get=20back=20by=20using=20good=20search=20termino=
logy,=20by
=20categorizing,
=20by=20reading=20the=20abstract,=20but=20at=20one=20point=20you=20have=20t=
o=20just=20read=20
the
=20articles.=20No=20one=20article=20is=20going=20to=20give=20you=20all=20th=
e=20
information=20your
=20need,
=20that's=20why=20you=20use=20so=20many=20citations=20at=20the=20end=20of=20=
the=20day,=20
because=20one
=20part
=20of=20one=20paper=20may=20be=20of=20relevance,=20but=20the=20other=20twen=
ty=20pages=20
aren't.=20Good
=20research=20takes=20time,=20and=20the=20better=20you=20get=20at=20it,=20t=
he=20better=20
you=20become
=20at
=20using=20that=20time=20more=20efficiently.
=20As=20far=20as=20PDFs,=20I've=20been=20suggesting=20to=20students=20to=20=
ask=20for=20
Adobe=20Pro=20from
=20VR=20or=20to=20purchase=20it=20if=20possible.=20If=20you=20take=20the=20=
time=20to=20learn=20
some
=20accessibility=20remediation=20techniques=20with=20Adobe,=20many=20tutori=
als=20
are
=20available=20online,=20you=20can=20tag=20your=20own=20pdfs=20and=20fix=20=
reading=20
order=20and
=20navigation.=20It=20won't=20be=20perfect,=20but=20at=20least=20it'll=20ma=
ke=20them=20
legible.
=20Kurzweil=201000=20is=20also=20incredibly=20useful.=20If=20it's=202=20AM=
=20and=20the=20
paper=20is=20due
=20in=20six=20hours,=20not=20that=20I've=20ever=20been=20there,=20you=20can=
=20save=20pdfs=20
to=20your=20pc,
=20run=20them=20through=20Kurzweil=20and=20that=20way=20the=20articles=20be=
come=20
legible=20if=20not
=20perfect.
=20Last,=20not=20all=20databases=20are=20created=20equal.=20Depending=20on=
=20your=20
subject,=20you
=20may=20want=20to=20filter=20through=20subjects=20when=20choosing=20databa=
ses,=20for=20
the
=20humanities=20I=20=20found=20EPSCO=20databases=20to=20be=20really=20acces=
sible,=20
Jstor,
=20PsychInfo,=20the=20Oxford=20databases,=20and=20quite=20a=20few=20others=
=20were=20
very=20good.
=20And
=20some=20won't=20be.=20There=20are=20so=20many=20tips=20and=20tricks=20to=
=20conducting=20
research,
=20so
=20I=20strongly=20suggest=20seeing=20if=20a=20college=20does=20those=20rese=
arch=20
workshops,=20and
=20just=20taking=20the=20time=20to=20figure=20out=20what=20works=20for=20yo=
u=20and=20what=20
doesn't.
=20Unfortunately,=20there=20isn't=20a=20universal=20answer=20when=20it=20co=
mes=20to
=20accessibility.=20We=20must=20advocate=20for=20manufacturers=20and=20
universities=20to
=20become
=20responsible=20for=20only=20procuring=20and=20implementing=20accessible=20=

learning=20tools,
=20but=20that's=20a=20battle=20that=20has=20to=20be=20fought=20outside=20th=
e=20research=20
library!
=20Thanks.
=20Mary

=20On=208/25/14,=20justin=20williams=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>=20=

wrote:
=20It=20just=20depends=20on=20what=20I=20am=20looking=20for;=20I=20take=20p=
ieces=20parts=20of
=20several=20articles,=20and=20just=20put=20them=20together=20into=20a=20re=
search=20
paper.
=20It=20helps=20to=20no=20something=20about=20your=20topic.=20=20If=20you=20=
have=20no=20
knowledge
=20about=20a=20topic,=20get=20a=20book=20from=20nls=20to=20start=20you=20of=
f,=20then=20fine=20
your
=20articles.

=20-----Original=20Message-----
=20From:=20nabs-l=20[mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org]=20On=20Behalf=20Of=20=

Sofia
=20Gallo=20via=20nabs-l
=20Sent:=20Monday,=20August=2025,=202014=207:33=20AM
=20To:=20Helga=20Schreiber;=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Student=
s=20
mailing
=20list
=20Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20research=20techniques=20and=20assistance

=20I=20also=20have=20to=20read=20a=20lot=20of=20the=20article=20to=20see=20=
if=20it's=20relevant=20
but=20I
=20thought=20this=20was=20true=20for=20everyone?

=20Sofia

=20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone

=20On=20Aug=2025,=202014,=20at=204:10=20AM,=20Helga=20Schreiber=20via=20nab=
s-l
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>=20wrote:

=20Hi=20all!=20I=20have=20the=20same=20questions=20as=20Ashley.=20For=20me,=
=20research=20is=20
not
=20so=20easy=20as=20well!!=20Hope=20to=20hear=20from=20you=20soon.=20Thanks=
=20=20so=20much=20
and=20God
=20bless!!=20=20:-)

=20Helga=20Schreiber

=20Fundraiser=20Coordinator=20for=20Phi=20Theta=20Kappa,=20Alpha=20Delta=20=
Iota=20
chapter.
=20Member=20of=20National=20Federation=20of=20the=20Blind=20and=20Florida=20=

Association=20of
=20Blind=20Students.
=20Member=20of=20the=20International=20Networkers=20Team=20(INT).
=20Independent=20Entrepreneur=20of=20the=20Company=204Life=20Research.
=20Phone:=20=20(561)=20706-5950
=20Email:=20helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
=20Skype:=20helga.schreiber26
=204Life=20Website:=20http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
=20INT=20Website:=20http://int4life.com/

=20"For=20God=20so=20loved=20the=20world=20that=20he=20gave=20his=20one=20a=
nd=20only=20Son,=20
that
=20whoever=20believes=20in=20him=20shall=20not=20perish=20but=20have=20eter=
nal=20life."=20
John
=203:16=20Sent=20from=20my=20iPhone

=20On=20Aug=2025,=202014,=20at=203:17=20AM,=20Ashley=20Bramlett=20via=20nab=
s-l
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>=20wrote:

=20Hi=20all,

=20Its=20been=20my=20experience=20that=20research=20is=20very=20challenging=
.=20Have=20
you
=20run=20into=20these=20issues?

=20Not=20all=20databases=20are=20fully=20accessible,=20although=20that=20ha=
s=20been
=20better=20in=20the=20past=20couple=20years.
=20For=20instance,=20academic=20search=20complete=20and=20other=20Search=20=
complete
=20databases=20do=20not=20let=20you=20change=20the=20combo=20box=20from=20t=
he=20default=20
and
=20to=20read=20"or".=20This=20means=20it=20would=20look=20for=20search=20te=
rms=20A=20and=20B=20
or
=20search=20term=20C.

=20Other=20challenges=20I've=20had=20are=20evaluating=20if=20the=20article=
=20is=20
relevant.
=20I=20do=20read=20abstracts=20first=20and=20think=20through=20it.=20It=20s=
eems=20like=20I=20
read
=20most=20of=20an=20article=20only=20to=20realize=20its=20not=20relevant.
=20Also,=20some=20articlesare=20pdfs=20with=20words=20smashed=20together;=20=
I=20end=20
up
=20asking=20a=20reader=20to=20read=20them.

=20What=20assistance=20have=20you=20had=20with=20research?=20All=20school=20=
libraries
=20have=20reference=20librarians=20at=20a=20certain=20desk.=20Do=20you=20ju=
st=20ask=20
them
=20where=20to=20look?=20Have=20you=20needed=20or=20wanted=20more=20help=20l=
earning=20the
=20databases=20and=20electronic=20references?=20Has=20the=20librarians=20wo=
rked=20=20
1=20on
=201=20with=20you?=20At=20the=20community=20college=20and=20my=20university=
,=20
Marymount,
=20they=20did=20assist=20me=20a=20little=20privately=20to=20get=20me=20star=
ted.=20They=20
gave
=20me=20specific=20instructions=20on=20what=20to=20click=20on=20and=20which=
=20boxes=20to
=20check=20to=20get=20what=20I=20needed.=20I=20needed=20to=20limit=20to=20f=
ull=20text,=20for
=20instance;=20also=20if=20I=20needed=20recent=20articles,=20I=20was=20taug=
ht=20how=20to
=20write=20in
=20the=20date=20range.

=20These=20references=20seem=20inaccessible.=20Was=20that=20your=20experien=
ce?

=20a..=20Encyclopedia=20Britanica
=20b..=20Credo=20reference
=20c..=20Gale=20biography=20in=20context

=20Also,=20books=20are=20not=20accessible=20and=20libraries=20have=20lots=20=
of=20them.
=20How=20do=20you=20direct=20readers=20to=20find=20what=20you=20need?=20I'v=
e=20tried=20
asking
=20for=20headings=20and=20table=20of=20contents.=20This=20does=20not=20alwa=
ys=20work.=20
Is
=20skimming=20relevant=20chapters=20the=20best=20thing?

=20Thanks.
=20Ashley
=20_______________________________________________
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=20--
=20Mary=20Fernandez
=20"I've=20learned=20that=20people=20will=20forget=20what=20you=20said,=20p=
eople=20will=20
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