[nabs-l] Questions About Using Vocational Rehab's Services

Wed Aug 13 02:53:47 UTC 2014

RJ,
excuse me. now we were just talking about manners. this was very rude.
Who are you to tell Beth what she needs to do. Its very hard to get a job or 
go to school with debt behind you.
I hate when people say just go get a job and blame any person for 
unemployment. it  is not often their fault because many factors have to fall 
into place to get a job.
then, to hear someone blind say this on list really illustrates a lack of 
empathy.
If you were out of work, and someone said this to you, think of how it 
feels.

It may be inappropriate to dress that way, I agree. But to go through  a 
psychologist and be misdiagnosed is a bad experience.

So please don't say that kind of stuff again. Also, can we all please
spell check and write appropriately? I have seen better writing than this 
from you.

Thanks.
Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:33 PM
To: Beth Taurasi ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Questions About Using Vocational Rehab's Services

Beth, The way you were dressing was inapproaprate it's just that simpple!
This wasn't Lets pick on Beth, because she's muslam! You Obay rules as they
are given, and you refeused, so you have to deal like everybody else! Quit
wining, and make yourself productive! Get back in school, or Get a job! Dr.
RJ Sandefur
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth Taurasi via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "Kerri Kosten" <kerrik2006 at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind
Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Questions About Using Vocational Rehab's Services

> Hey Kerri,
> Please feel free to call me if you want.  I can explain my Rehab 
> situation.  Getting a job through Colorado rehab is supposed to be good. 
> However, because of religious factions I was a part of for a short tijme, 
> I was evaluated psychologically for wearing a veil.  Ok, I was Muslim, and 
> the Rehab counselor sent me to a biased psychologist who labeled me as 
> pretending to be Arab.  I wasn't.  I'm Caucasian, so he got it all wrong. 
> He also said that my college major was inappropriate.  I wasn't gonna back 
> down, but after dropping my third major in college, I collected a debt of 
> over $2000.  I can't even go back to school with debt.  I can't pay for 
> schools with loans because ... well, you have to pay them back.  I am not 
> motivated whatsoever to do well for a person myself, but I know the 
> feelings you've gone through.  Hey,
> you are welcome to call me.  I will put my number at the bottom of this 
> email.  Or you can email me your number off list and I'll call you on my 
> cell.  Any things you want to talk about are fine.  Besides, I think my 
> boyfriend's watching baseball and his Arizona baseball team got rain 
> delayed ... major that they're suposed to play in Ohio.  It's getting 
> weird.
> Anyway, here's my number.
> Love,
> Beth Taurasi
> thebluesisloose at gmail.com (personal email)
> 720-435-7407 (cell)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kerri Kosten via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 22:04:28 -0400
> Subject: [nabs-l] Questions About Using Vocational Rehab's Services
>
> Hey Everyone:
>
> Since I can't go back to school, I have to find a job or something to do.
> What is it like using Rehab to help you find a job?
> I'm afraid they will just place me into one of those sheltered
> workshops doing something simple like for example shredding paper or
> something like that and then when I want to go back to school my
> family and my counselor will say something like "This is your job now.
> You get paid doing this," or something like that and will mess with my
> head and they will convince me I can't go back to school or anything.
> How does using Rehab to help you find a job work?
> How do blind people end up in those sheltered workshops, particularly
> the ones that pay sub-minimum wages that the NFB has been trying so
> hard to fight?
> Does Rehab just place you in a job they want/think you should have
> just to give you a job?
> Does Rehab encourage you to do research and look for jobs on your own
> or do they just dictate to you which ones they feel you should apply
> for?
> I have to make an appointment with my rehab counselor and I am really
> really scared. The counselor I have now is one I really respect. He is
> a former football player, who actually lost his eyesight playing
> football for the team/school I am a huge fan of. Because of things
> that have happened in my past (I won't go into it here, if you want to
> know more email me off-list) I really look up to, and respect males
> like my counselor who are really really into sports. Ever since I got
> this counselor back in 2011, I have always tried to do my best for
> him. Even though I was absolutely scared to death about going to
> training at LCB, I pushed myself because I wanted to do well for him
> and for him to see me as a motivated individual. After completing
> training, when I would speak to him on the phone, he was always so
> proud of me. He really thinks I am this motivated individual.
> Now, the problem is I'm really not like that. I tried going back to
> school last semester and unintentionally failed out. My counselor does
> not know this yet, and when I have this meeting I will have to tell
> him. I myself am very ashamed and embarrassed about what happened in
> school, and don't really like talking about it with anyone,
> particularly those I really look up to such as him.
> I also really know nothing when it comes to just getting a random job
> when you have no college degree. I'm not sure what I as a blind person
> I could realistically do. This again really embarrasses me, because I
> want my counselor to see me as confident, independent, and motivated.
> Would it be best to maybe apply for a couple of jobs before I go into
> the meeting so I can tell my counselor I have done a couple of things
> on my own first? I could apply to our grocery store, or maybe Walmart
> might be looking for a greeter or something like that...
> I am just so so afraid I am going into this and will end up totally
> depending on Rehab for everything and I don't want to do that.
> Because of my lack of knologe of what I want to do and such, I'm
> afraid my counselor is just going to place me in some kind of
> sheltered workshop or something like that and since I can't go back to
> school for a year, I will get comfortable in said job and then when I
> want to go back to school or something everyone will convince me
> otherwise.
> I guess I just don't want my counselor realizing how much I have
> slipped since coming back from training. He spent a lot of money to
> send me to training, and I want to be confident and such the way we
> were taught at training. But, I'm really really afraid as the meeting
> progresses he will see through me and figure things out. I just really
> struggle horribly with self-esteem issues, and when someone says to me
> "I am so proud of you I sent you to training and now your setting the
> world on fire," that makes me feel so good and I really want to
> continue to do well for that person.
> Any answers/experiences regarding rehab and your counselor you could
> share would be great!
> Thanks,
> Kerri
>
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