[nabs-l] One can live without disability services and others

Kirt kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
Tue Dec 16 19:46:10 UTC 2014


Hi all,
I'm kind of a hypocrite, because I agree with Michael and Lily on this one… however one of my professors, with whom I have a fantastic relationship, just emailed me her final and told me to take it at home on proctored out of convenience. I'm not going to cheat, and I feel kind of weird about it… but I'm doing it, so what does that say about me? Haha
Best,
Kirt

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> On Dec 16, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good morning, Michael, and everyone,
> 
>        Why does it sound like not making use of the DSS is like a sort of badge of honor? Admittedly, some people may want to put forth even more exertion additional to their required schoolwork to secure their own test accomodations and other materials but remember, probably some disenfranchised somebodies from the pages of history had to fight to create such a DSS for us. Claiming in what I perceive to be self righteous tones that you do everything without support of the DSS, after handicapped students that came before us, most likely, had to struggle, and struggle hard for the creation of the DSS? What I'm saying, is the DSS is a need of some students, therefore it needs to, must, exist to serve.
> 
> 
> to do away from my disability center. In my case, it was either because the professor did not want to deal with the Disability services office or they did not trust the disability services office (professors are interesting creatures). In either case, if a professor gives you the exam like this, they have to trust that you will not cheat in some way shape or form. Many students, if they do not advocate well, never reach this level of trust with their instructors.
>> 3)      Technology rocks, that is, if you manage to get your hands on technology which can help you succeed, then you may not need a disability center; however, most students don’t have the technology, which you stated, so most need the DSS in order to succeed in this case.
>> Of course, there are other ways for individuals to do things without the disability services getting involved; for instance, I always request my books from bookshare, so I don’t have to worry about the disability center not getting them to me on time. I think though, the key fact is that the disability center provides students with a safety blanket. You don’t have to advocate as much nor do you have to stress as much. If you go through a disability services center, then nine times out of ten they assist you in shouldering your burden. This, for a lot of people, can and probably does, act as relief.
>>        I hope I addressed your concerns adequately.
>> Respectfully,
>> Michael
>> 
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>> From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Gerardo Corripio via nabs-l [nabs-l at nfbnet.org]
>> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 1:57 PM
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>> Subject: [nabs-l] One can live without disability services and others
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>>  HI guys
>> It's interesting how you've guys talked about how the world comes
>> crashing down when the Disability service in the college doesn't Braille
>> out tests, make books available etc., so I wonder how do you think I
>> managed in a country where disability services aren't heard of or known?
>> By talking with the teachers, suggesting techniques for instance at
>> first, they allowed me to take the tests home, and have my parents read
>> me the tests and i'd answer on the computer and print them out, turning
>> them to the teachers the next day as if it were homework; as the
>> semesters wore on, the teachers graduated to seeing them in the
>> classroom in a time when my classmates were out eating lunch or other
>> activities, and orally test me; another time, I installed Jaws on the
>> college's computer and I'd go and take the test there with the teacher
>> in that she'd read me the questions, and I'd type in the answers,
>> printing it out afterwards, generally before my classmates took the test
>> in the classroom, but can you believe when the tech guys did computer
>> maintainance, they erased my copy of Jaws?
>> Books and other written assignments? During the first semester or so, my
>> parents mostly, but also from time to time other family members,
>> recorded the chapters on cassettes, to which I'd listen, and take notes
>> on an old Toshiba Laptop running Keysoft my parents had bought while in
>> the States; as the second semester ended, however, I guess I was lucky
>> because the university donated for my use, a PC with kurzweil1000 and a
>> scanner, to which I afterwards put on Jaws and did all my assignments on
>> there; they also donated me a NoteTaker, the Braille Lite 2000 for
>> taking notes etc; as I say again, maybe it was luck, because I've
>> contacted other college students, and they only dream of having these
>> technologies! I guess it's one of the advantages of having gone to a
>> private college, and not a public university? So there you have it;
>> perseverance/determination, wins! Also support from family mostly, and
>> teachers, except for those who dinde'didn't believe in my abilities and
>> made the semester a nightmare! So what do you guys think? are these
>> experiences worthwhile?
>> 
>> --
>> Enviado desde mi lap
>> Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
>> Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
>> RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!
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