[nabs-l] grade 3 braille

marissa pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 5 01:40:22 UTC 2014 

Not really.  I get my books from Bookshare.  I get my school 
books brailled for me.


 ----- Original Message -----
From: Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] grade 3 braille

Sounds like this is a source of a misguided pride? You're missing 
out
on literature.  Are ya happy?
for today, Car04:05 PM 2/4/2014, you wrote:

I never used NLS.  I never have.


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Date sent: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 17:54:36 -0600
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] grade 3 braille

Hi Marissa,

You can get a grade three code manual from NLS (National Library
Service) at the Library of Congress.  You know, the place where 
you
usually order novels and things.  They have a fairly good grade 
three manual.


Ryan

On Feb 4, 2014, at 5:18 PM, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> 
wrote:


Where can I learn about this grade three braille and read it? My 
TVI
is interested to know there is a grade three braille.


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Date sent: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 08:53:21 -0600
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I will echo what has already been said here--it is a more 
contracted
version of grade 2.  I learned a little of it in 7th grade, but 
never
used it.  I honestly wonder if anyone does use it.  I don't know
anyone who does.  Lillie, it's not exactly like texting in 
braille.
It's more like shorthand.  Before computers were as easily 
available
as they are now, secretaries and court stenographers learned a 
system
of writing called shorthand.  Basically, it was a system of 
symbols,
like grade two braille, that would be substituted for letters.
For
example, if you were sighted and taking minutes for a meeting, as 
you
do for OABS, you might use shorthand.  It's different than 
texting
shorthand because it actually uses symbols like grade two braille 
uses
contractions.  Grade three braille is basically contracted
contractions.  I believe I still have a book at my mother's house
somewhere that has the grade three code.  If your really curious, 
I
can get it and give it to you.

Ryan

On 2/4/14, Loren Wakefield <theweird1 at mediacombb.net> wrote:
T does come in handy.  I know some of it, and my wife knows quite 
a bit.
There use to be a course from Hadley that you could take and 
learn grade
III.

Loren



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Carly
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Hi, Sami,

         Grade 3 is even more deeply contracted than is Grade 2
and is
used
primarily for personal correspondence and notetaking purposes.
Learn it if
you can!
for today, Car
408-209-3239

as far as I know is used for personal correspondence and 
notetaking  a syAt
06:23 PM 2/3/2014, David Andrews wrote:
Grade 3 Braille has lots of abbreviations.  It is basically a 
Braille
shorthand.  There aren't a lot of teaching materials, and nothing
regularly printed in it.  It was never widely used.

Dave

At 07:45 PM 2/3/2014, you wrote:
Hi All.

I am creating this topic further to Dave's post about NFB 
training
centers, who said that he learned Grade 3 Braille in those
centers.
I didn't want to post this in that topic so as not to go 
off-topic.
So I would like to know, could someone try to explain how this 
works?
Because to be honest, this is the first time that I'm hereing 
about
it.  Was this only discovered recently? Does it have, say, more
contractions then grade 2 braille uses?
I'm sure that I'll be able to understand your explanations about 
it,
because I have been using braille for quite a long time (since I 
was
in kindergarten, and now I'm in 11th grade).  I don't think I've
learned grade 2 braille when I first sttted to learn braille, but 
I
have been using grade 2 braille for as long as I can remember, 
and am
therefore very good at it, if I say so myself.
Not only that, but I just finished the course on Braille music at 
my
music school.
I hope you'll be able to explain how Grade 3 Braille works.
Thanks.

Sami.


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