[nabs-l] Braille music

Ryan Silveira ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
Fri Feb 7 12:52:07 UTC 2014


Wow.  I did not know web braille merged with Bard.  Just shows you how
infrequently I use the service.  I used NLS a lot in high school, but
since college, I almost never use them.  I rarely ever read music,
prefering to learn everything by ear since I have perfect pitch and
can learn a piece in, at most, 30 minutes, and as far as regular audio
books go, I prefer to buy them because the readers are usually better.
 I'm very picky about my readers.

Ryan

On 2/7/14, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I do not know if I'm signed up.  I think I am, since I received a
> digital talking book player.
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joshua Hendrickson <louvins at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 05:56:15 -0600
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>
> Hi Marissa.  I don't know why you wouldn't want to be signed up
> with
> NLS as you can get so many books from them.  What you can do, is
> contact your local talking book library and just ask for either
> talking books, or braille materials from them.  But first, you
> need to
> be signed up with NLS first.  I've been getting books from NLS
> since I
> was probably about four or five.
>
> On 2/7/14, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  i do play piano as well as clarinet, (self taught), so I might
>  look in to the clasical music.  I have emailed the Special Ed
>  Director a very long email, telling him how I need music ASAP
>  because I have a band festival that my band teacher wants me to
>  go to.  I see no point if I have no music.  I cannot play by ear
>  because the students will not hush when the director is trying
> to
>  explain something, and they will not hush when playing,
>  (percussion really).
>  I basically told him I need a transcriber, a music book to get
>  started, and a braille music tutor.  He never replied, but told
>  me that they need to find the money to get these things.  Ugh.
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
>  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 23:48:26 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>
>  Hi,
>
>  While Web Braille did merge with bard, the concept of it is
> still
>  the
>  same.  A lot of the music there is classical stuff, songs for
>  voice,
>  piano pieces, a few scores of string pieces and chamber group
>  stuff,
>  but not much in the way of clarinet stuff at all, or at least
> the
>  last
>  time I checked there wasn't.  For high school band pieces you'll
>  definitely need to use a transcriber.  The only pieces I've been
>  able
>  to get through NLS have been pieces of standard clarinet
>  repertoire
>  like works from Webber, Mozart, etc.  NLS is great for getting
>  these
>  things because you can often get them in the mail faster than a
>  transcriber  can go through them, and it's already embossed into
>  nice
>  hard copy braille for you.
>
>  As per calling the library, I used to be terrified of calling
>  anywhere
>  to ask for help, but frankly it's a life skill that I'm glad I
>  developed.  You will need to call and be professional on the
>  phone
>  many times when you're an adult, so it's best to start forming
>  good
>  habits when you're young.  The library is a good place to start
>  with
>  this because as Ryan said the librarians are very nice, helpful
>  people
>  who already know you're a visually impaired person, so there
>  aren't
>  any awkward explanations required while you're still getting
> your
>  feet
>  wet.  It's much easier than calling and having to start by
>  talking to
>  a shady customer service rep who works for the metro like my O
>  and M
>  instructor made me do to develop this skill.  :)
>
>  Good luck,
>
>  On 2/6/14, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>   ryan,
>   nope.  web braille merged with bard a year ago.  so now you go
>  to the bard
>   site to download all media.
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Ryan Silveira
>   Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:15 PM
>   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>
>
>   Yes.  The other option, for some books, is to download them
> from
>  their site.
>   It's called Web braille.  I don't know how to use it because I
>  never have
>   done, but basically, if you're registered, you search what you
>  want and then
>   download the file.  You can then import it into Duxbury,
> already
>  in Braille
>   format and emboss it.  I don't know how many books they have in
>  that format.
>   Mostly, I think, it's just individual pieces (Beethoven's Ninth
>  Simphony,
>   for instance), but they may have some full books on there.  I
>  don't know.
>   Mostly, though, you will need to call them.  Don't be shy.
>  They're wicked
>   nice and very helpful.
>
>   Ryan
>
>   On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:49 PM, marissa
>  <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>   So every time I want a braille book, I have to call NLS?
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
>   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>   Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:20:15 -0600
>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>
>   I know.  Sadly, they don EURO (tm)t.
>
>   Ryan
>
>   On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:15 PM, marissa
>  <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>   Wow.  They really should make it accessable to just put in a
>  form to send
>   the book.  Make it a lot easer on people.
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
>   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>   Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:07:50 -0600
>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>
>   I don
>    EURO (tm)t think so.  I think you will have to call them.  I
>  mean, if you
>   really, really didn
>    EURO (tm)t want to call them, I wouldn
>    EURO (tm)t mind shipping you my copy since I haven
>    EURO (tm)t used it in years.  While Richard Tesh
>    EURO (tm)s book is very good, I think the Primer is the best
>  one to use.  If
>   you think back to elementary school and those very basic
> grammar
>  books
>   that everyone uses in first and second grade
>    EURO "that
>    EURO (tm)s pretty much what the Primer of Braille Music is.
> It
>    EURO (tm)s the book most every blind musician I know uses
>  first.  I wouldn
>    EURO (tm)t say no to getting both, though.  Then you could
> take
>  what you choose
>
>   from both sources.
>
>   Ryan
>
>
>   On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:00 PM, marissa
>  <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>   Ok, so now I've heard of three different books for starting
>  braille music.
>
>   So confusing.
>   "An Introduction to Braille Music" by Richard Tesh.
>   the one you listed
>   and a third, which I cannot place the name of right now, but I
>  know what
>   it is called.  It was on another topic, "reading  braille
> music"
>  on this
>   list.
>
>   Yes, I have never used the library.  Is there a way to contact
>  them by
>   email, and have the book sent to me by mail, instead of having
>  to call
>   them?
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
>   To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>   Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 17:55:03 -0600
>   Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>
>   Hi Marissa,
>
>   It would be a bit difficult to actually send you an attachment
>  with the
>   braille music code.  I could send you something that lists the
>  code (e.g.
>   8th note C = dots 1 4 5), but even if I listed all the notes,
>  that
>    's just the very tip of the iceberg.  In order to read high
>  school band
>   music reasonably well, you
>    'd need a whole lot more than just the very basics.  What you
>  need is the
>
>   Primer of Braille Music.  That
>    's the best book there is for learning braille music.  You can
>  get it
>   from NLS (National Library Service) at the Library of Congress.
>  I can
>    't remember if it was you who said you never use them, but if
>  it was, you
>
>   should.  They
>    're a great resource.  If you contact their music division and
>  ask for
>   the Primer of Braille Music, that would be your best source for
>  starting
>   to learn braille music.  Then, if you
>    're serious, there are two summer programs into which you
> could
>  look.
>   There is Braille Beats in Michigan, which is a very good
> program
>  for
>   fairly serious blind musicians.  If you are really, really
>  serious, to the
>
>   point where you are seriously considering studying music in
>  college, there
>
>   is the Summer Braille Music Institute, run by the National
>  Resource Center
>
>   for Blind Musicians which is held in July in Philladelphia.
> The
>  National
>   Resource Center for Blind Musicians is excellent.  I know the
>  director
>   really well and I can put you in touch with him if you like.
>  Feel free to
>
>   e-mail me off-list if you want to discuss further.
>
>
>   Ryan
>
>
>   On Feb 6, 2014, at 5:40 PM, marissa
>  <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>   Allright, so here's the deal.
>   I got my music from my band director and gave it to the Special
>  Ed
>   Director, who then gave a coppy to one of my TVIS, who is
>  sending it to
>   the braille institute to have it brailled apparently.
>   That is great, yes, but I cannot read it.
>
>   Could someone please find an index of all music notes and
> either
>  send me a
>
>   link, or send me an attatchment? I can send it to my brailleest
>  and she
>   can braille it for me.
>
>   Also, is there a way to get books from the nabs library without
>  having to
>   call them?
>
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