[nabs-l] Braille music
Ryan Silveira
ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
Fri Feb 7 19:15:59 UTC 2014
If you don't mind publicizing, Marissa, what state are you in? You
should be able to call NLS, especially because, if you're ordering
music, you would be calling the music division in D.C. At least,
that's what I did when I was in high school. they may have changed,
but I don't know. There is no reason why you can't call if you're a
minor. I did it all the time.
Ryan
On 2/7/14, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> I believe marissa is already signed up; but she told us she cannot call
> herself to order books as a minor. I have no clue why; I did so; but maybe
> rules differ from state to state.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 6:56 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>
> Hi Marissa. I don't know why you wouldn't want to be signed up with
> NLS as you can get so many books from them. What you can do, is
> contact your local talking book library and just ask for either
> talking books, or braille materials from them. But first, you need to
> be signed up with NLS first. I've been getting books from NLS since I
> was probably about four or five.
>
> On 2/7/14, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> i do play piano as well as clarinet, (self taught), so I might
>> look in to the clasical music. I have emailed the Special Ed
>> Director a very long email, telling him how I need music ASAP
>> because I have a band festival that my band teacher wants me to
>> go to. I see no point if I have no music. I cannot play by ear
>> because the students will not hush when the director is trying to
>> explain something, and they will not hush when playing,
>> (percussion really).
>> I basically told him I need a transcriber, a music book to get
>> started, and a braille music tutor. He never replied, but told
>> me that they need to find the money to get these things. Ugh.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 23:48:26 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> While Web Braille did merge with bard, the concept of it is still
>> the
>> same. A lot of the music there is classical stuff, songs for
>> voice,
>> piano pieces, a few scores of string pieces and chamber group
>> stuff,
>> but not much in the way of clarinet stuff at all, or at least the
>> last
>> time I checked there wasn't. For high school band pieces you'll
>> definitely need to use a transcriber. The only pieces I've been
>> able
>> to get through NLS have been pieces of standard clarinet
>> repertoire
>> like works from Webber, Mozart, etc. NLS is great for getting
>> these
>> things because you can often get them in the mail faster than a
>> transcriber can go through them, and it's already embossed into
>> nice
>> hard copy braille for you.
>>
>> As per calling the library, I used to be terrified of calling
>> anywhere
>> to ask for help, but frankly it's a life skill that I'm glad I
>> developed. You will need to call and be professional on the
>> phone
>> many times when you're an adult, so it's best to start forming
>> good
>> habits when you're young. The library is a good place to start
>> with
>> this because as Ryan said the librarians are very nice, helpful
>> people
>> who already know you're a visually impaired person, so there
>> aren't
>> any awkward explanations required while you're still getting your
>> feet
>> wet. It's much easier than calling and having to start by
>> talking to
>> a shady customer service rep who works for the metro like my O
>> and M
>> instructor made me do to develop this skill. :)
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> On 2/6/14, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> ryan,
>> nope. web braille merged with bard a year ago. so now you go
>> to the bard
>> site to download all media.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ryan Silveira
>> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:15 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>>
>>
>> Yes. The other option, for some books, is to download them from
>> their site.
>> It's called Web braille. I don't know how to use it because I
>> never have
>> done, but basically, if you're registered, you search what you
>> want and then
>> download the file. You can then import it into Duxbury, already
>> in Braille
>> format and emboss it. I don't know how many books they have in
>> that format.
>> Mostly, I think, it's just individual pieces (Beethoven's Ninth
>> Simphony,
>> for instance), but they may have some full books on there. I
>> don't know.
>> Mostly, though, you will need to call them. Don't be shy.
>> They're wicked
>> nice and very helpful.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:49 PM, marissa
>> <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> So every time I want a braille book, I have to call NLS?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:20:15 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>>
>> I know. Sadly, they don EURO (tm)t.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:15 PM, marissa
>> <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wow. They really should make it accessable to just put in a
>> form to send
>> the book. Make it a lot easer on people.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:07:50 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>>
>> I don
>> EURO (tm)t think so. I think you will have to call them. I
>> mean, if you
>> really, really didn
>> EURO (tm)t want to call them, I wouldn
>> EURO (tm)t mind shipping you my copy since I haven
>> EURO (tm)t used it in years. While Richard Tesh
>> EURO (tm)s book is very good, I think the Primer is the best
>> one to use. If
>> you think back to elementary school and those very basic grammar
>> books
>> that everyone uses in first and second grade
>> EURO "that
>> EURO (tm)s pretty much what the Primer of Braille Music is. It
>> EURO (tm)s the book most every blind musician I know uses
>> first. I wouldn
>> EURO (tm)t say no to getting both, though. Then you could take
>> what you choose
>>
>> from both sources.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:00 PM, marissa
>> <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ok, so now I've heard of three different books for starting
>> braille music.
>>
>> So confusing.
>> "An Introduction to Braille Music" by Richard Tesh.
>> the one you listed
>> and a third, which I cannot place the name of right now, but I
>> know what
>> it is called. It was on another topic, "reading braille music"
>> on this
>> list.
>>
>> Yes, I have never used the library. Is there a way to contact
>> them by
>> email, and have the book sent to me by mail, instead of having
>> to call
>> them?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 17:55:03 -0600
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music
>>
>> Hi Marissa,
>>
>> It would be a bit difficult to actually send you an attachment
>> with the
>> braille music code. I could send you something that lists the
>> code (e.g.
>> 8th note C = dots 1 4 5), but even if I listed all the notes,
>> that
>> 's just the very tip of the iceberg. In order to read high
>> school band
>> music reasonably well, you
>> 'd need a whole lot more than just the very basics. What you
>> need is the
>>
>> Primer of Braille Music. That
>> 's the best book there is for learning braille music. You can
>> get it
>> from NLS (National Library Service) at the Library of Congress.
>> I can
>> 't remember if it was you who said you never use them, but if
>> it was, you
>>
>> should. They
>> 're a great resource. If you contact their music division and
>> ask for
>> the Primer of Braille Music, that would be your best source for
>> starting
>> to learn braille music. Then, if you
>> 're serious, there are two summer programs into which you could
>> look.
>> There is Braille Beats in Michigan, which is a very good program
>> for
>> fairly serious blind musicians. If you are really, really
>> serious, to the
>>
>> point where you are seriously considering studying music in
>> college, there
>>
>> is the Summer Braille Music Institute, run by the National
>> Resource Center
>>
>> for Blind Musicians which is held in July in Philladelphia. The
>> National
>> Resource Center for Blind Musicians is excellent. I know the
>> director
>> really well and I can put you in touch with him if you like.
>> Feel free to
>>
>> e-mail me off-list if you want to discuss further.
>>
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 5:40 PM, marissa
>> <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Allright, so here's the deal.
>> I got my music from my band director and gave it to the Special
>> Ed
>> Director, who then gave a coppy to one of my TVIS, who is
>> sending it to
>> the braille institute to have it brailled apparently.
>> That is great, yes, but I cannot read it.
>>
>> Could someone please find an index of all music notes and either
>> send me a
>>
>> link, or send me an attatchment? I can send it to my brailleest
>> and she
>> can braille it for me.
>>
>> Also, is there a way to get books from the nabs library without
>> having to
>> call them?
>>
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