[nabs-l] Braille music

marissa pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 7 23:22:40 UTC 2014


I live in California.


 ----- Original Message -----
From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:15:59 -0600
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music

If you don't mind publicizing, Marissa, what state are you in?  
You
should be able to call NLS, especially because, if you're 
ordering
music, you would be calling the music division in D.C.  At least,
that's what I did when I was in high school.  they may have 
changed,
but I don't know.  There is no reason why you can't call if 
you're a
minor.  I did it all the time.

Ryan

On 2/7/14, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
 I believe marissa is already signed up; but she told us she 
cannot call
 herself to order books as a minor.  I have no clue why; I did 
so; but maybe
 rules differ from state to state.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: Joshua Hendrickson
 Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 6:56 AM
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music

 Hi Marissa.  I don't know why you wouldn't want to be signed up 
with
 NLS as you can get so many books from them.  What you can do, is
 contact your local talking book library and just ask for either
 talking books, or braille materials from them.  But first, you 
need to
 be signed up with NLS first.  I've been getting books from NLS 
since I
 was probably about four or five.

 On 2/7/14, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:


 i do play piano as well as clarinet, (self taught), so I might
 look in to the clasical music.  I have emailed the Special Ed
 Director a very long email, telling him how I need music ASAP
 because I have a band festival that my band teacher wants me to
 go to.  I see no point if I have no music.  I cannot play by ear
 because the students will not hush when the director is trying 
to
 explain something, and they will not hush when playing,
 (percussion really).
 I basically told him I need a transcriber, a music book to get
 started, and a braille music tutor.  He never replied, but told
 me that they need to find the money to get these things.  Ugh.

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 23:48:26 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music

 Hi,

 While Web Braille did merge with bard, the concept of it is 
still
 the
 same.  A lot of the music there is classical stuff, songs for
 voice,
 piano pieces, a few scores of string pieces and chamber group
 stuff,
 but not much in the way of clarinet stuff at all, or at least 
the
 last
 time I checked there wasn't.  For high school band pieces you'll
 definitely need to use a transcriber.  The only pieces I've been
 able
 to get through NLS have been pieces of standard clarinet
 repertoire
 like works from Webber, Mozart, etc.  NLS is great for getting
 these
 things because you can often get them in the mail faster than a
 transcriber  can go through them, and it's already embossed into
 nice
 hard copy braille for you.

 As per calling the library, I used to be terrified of calling
 anywhere
 to ask for help, but frankly it's a life skill that I'm glad I
 developed.  You will need to call and be professional on the
 phone
 many times when you're an adult, so it's best to start forming
 good
 habits when you're young.  The library is a good place to start
 with
 this because as Ryan said the librarians are very nice, helpful
 people
 who already know you're a visually impaired person, so there
 aren't
 any awkward explanations required while you're still getting 
your
 feet
 wet.  It's much easier than calling and having to start by
 talking to
 a shady customer service rep who works for the metro like my O
 and M
 instructor made me do to develop this skill.  :)

 Good luck,

 On 2/6/14, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
  ryan,
  nope.  web braille merged with bard a year ago.  so now you go
 to the bard
  site to download all media.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Ryan Silveira
  Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 8:15 PM
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music


  Yes.  The other option, for some books, is to download them 
from
 their site.
  It's called Web braille.  I don't know how to use it because I
 never have
  done, but basically, if you're registered, you search what you
 want and then
  download the file.  You can then import it into Duxbury, 
already
 in Braille
  format and emboss it.  I don't know how many books they have in
 that format.
  Mostly, I think, it's just individual pieces (Beethoven's Ninth
 Simphony,
  for instance), but they may have some full books on there.  I
 don't know.
  Mostly, though, you will need to call them.  Don't be shy.
 They're wicked
  nice and very helpful.

  Ryan

  On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:49 PM, marissa
 <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:


  So every time I want a braille book, I have to call NLS?


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:20:15 -0600
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music

  I know.  Sadly, they don EURO (tm)t.

  Ryan

  On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:15 PM, marissa
 <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:


  Wow.  They really should make it accessable to just put in a
 form to send
  the book.  Make it a lot easer on people.


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 18:07:50 -0600
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music

  I don
   EURO (tm)t think so.  I think you will have to call them.  I
 mean, if you
  really, really didn
   EURO (tm)t want to call them, I wouldn
   EURO (tm)t mind shipping you my copy since I haven
   EURO (tm)t used it in years.  While Richard Tesh
   EURO (tm)s book is very good, I think the Primer is the best
 one to use.  If
  you think back to elementary school and those very basic 
grammar
 books
  that everyone uses in first and second grade
   EURO "that
   EURO (tm)s pretty much what the Primer of Braille Music is.  
It
   EURO (tm)s the book most every blind musician I know uses
 first.  I wouldn
   EURO (tm)t say no to getting both, though.  Then you could 
take
 what you choose

  from both sources.

  Ryan


  On Feb 6, 2014, at 6:00 PM, marissa
 <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:


  Ok, so now I've heard of three different books for starting
 braille music.

  So confusing.
  "An Introduction to Braille Music" by Richard Tesh.
  the one you listed
  and a third, which I cannot place the name of right now, but I
 know what
  it is called.  It was on another topic, "reading  braille 
music"
 on this
  list.

  Yes, I have never used the library.  Is there a way to contact
 them by
  email, and have the book sent to me by mail, instead of having
 to call
  them?


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Ryan Silveira <ryan.l.silveira at gmail.com
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 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 17:55:03 -0600
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Braille music

  Hi Marissa,

  It would be a bit difficult to actually send you an attachment
 with the
  braille music code.  I could send you something that lists the
 code (e.g.
  8th note C = dots 1 4 5), but even if I listed all the notes,
 that
   's just the very tip of the iceberg.  In order to read high
 school band
  music reasonably well, you
   'd need a whole lot more than just the very basics.  What you
 need is the

  Primer of Braille Music.  That
   's the best book there is for learning braille music.  You can
 get it
  from NLS (National Library Service) at the Library of Congress.
 I can
   't remember if it was you who said you never use them, but if
 it was, you

  should.  They
   're a great resource.  If you contact their music division and
 ask for
  the Primer of Braille Music, that would be your best source for
 starting
  to learn braille music.  Then, if you
   're serious, there are two summer programs into which you 
could
 look.
  There is Braille Beats in Michigan, which is a very good 
program
 for
  fairly serious blind musicians.  If you are really, really
 serious, to the

  point where you are seriously considering studying music in
 college, there

  is the Summer Braille Music Institute, run by the National
 Resource Center

  for Blind Musicians which is held in July in Philladelphia.  
The
 National
  Resource Center for Blind Musicians is excellent.  I know the
 director
  really well and I can put you in touch with him if you like.
 Feel free to

  e-mail me off-list if you want to discuss further.


  Ryan


  On Feb 6, 2014, at 5:40 PM, marissa
 <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:


  Allright, so here's the deal.
  I got my music from my band director and gave it to the Special
 Ed
  Director, who then gave a coppy to one of my TVIS, who is
 sending it to
  the braille institute to have it brailled apparently.
  That is great, yes, but I cannot read it.

  Could someone please find an index of all music notes and 
either
 send me a

  link, or send me an attatchment? I can send it to my brailleest
 and she
  can braille it for me.

  Also, is there a way to get books from the nabs library without
 having to
  call them?

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