[nabs-l] Learning to learn faster

Tue Feb 25 13:28:04 UTC 2014

I am not a braille reader but use large print, cctv, and electronic text
with screen magnifier. I tried recoded books. They were on tape when i was
first in college. I could not do it. I would just zone out if listening to
texts.

I have considered learning JAWs and voiceover to add an option particularly
for reading on the bus.

On Tuesday, February 25, 2014, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Screen reader; I have my jaws up to more than sixty usually.  I may slow it
> down to 55 or so when I am reading; I hae pretty good comprehention because
> I read before class.  Also, I use learning ally; I speed it up as much as I
> can.  Reading your emails I have my jaws on 65 or so.  If I am really
> searching for something on the internet, I may speed it up to 70 or even 80
> for greater speed.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org <javascript:;>] On Behalf
> Of Jamie
> Principato
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:02 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Learning to learn faster
>
> How many hours a night must you spend reading in order to keep up with and
> be successful in your classes? Are you using Braille or a screen reader?
> I'd
> love to hear everyone weigh in on this. If you don't read for class every
> night, how many hours a week?
>
> Jamie
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I find it easier to skim in Braille than in audio or E-text. You can
> > skim in Braille by looking for indented text, sliding your fingers
> > down the leftmost edge of the page looking for spaces where the text
> > is indented or centered to indicate a new paragraph or section
> > heading, or of course, flip to the next physical page.
> > Also, I'm not sure speed is  the end goal, at least not all the time.
> > I think a better goal is to achieve a good speed-to-accuracy ratio.
> > That is, you want to understand as much  as possible in as little time
> > as possible. Anyone can put their screen reader on 500 words a minute
> > and just breeze through, but if you comprehended less than half what
> > was spoken, that's not useful at all. Similarly, carefully reading in
> > Braille at 100 words per minute but understanding everything you read,
> > and remembering it later so you don't have to re-read right before the
> > test, is valuable.
> > I'm one of those Braille readers who reads very quickly, and I've
> > often found, especially as an adult reading denser material and having
> > less practice with Braille, that I have to force myself to slow down
> > or I start missing stuff.
> >
> > Arielle
> >
> >> On 2/24/14, Carly Mihalakis <carlymih at comcast.net> wrote:
> >> Good afternoon, Sophie,
> >>
> >>         Growing up,I admit, I took braille very much for granted,
> >> couldn't fathom those blinks I heard about who, didn't read braille.
> >> Served the Federation's summer program as the braille instructor, was
> >> a devotee of this page slate I have. Was beginning to learn Grade 3,
> >> the whole bit. I forgot, in studying Japanese language, I, with the
> >> help of a key my Dad found for me On-line, began teaching myself
> >> nihongo tenji (Japanese braille) Then, at age 19, I was hit by a car
> >> which caused severe brain damage, a symptom of which has been acute
> >> tactile appraxia which for me, refers to an inability of hand to
> >> perceive that which is sent to it via the brain. thus reducing
> >> braille reading pretty much to a very rich and stimulating  pipe
> >> dream. And, It isn't about the spacing of the dots, like you see with
> >> neuropathy people, as if anything was produced in jumbo braille,
> >> anyway. I just don't perceive what my finger feels!
> >> But, I say aoll this to make the point of my also not retaining,
> >> during the time i did use hard copy braille as well as a Braille
> >> Light 40 purchased by the school district and, having no alternative,
> >> I have forced myself to learn audotorally on the comput as well as
> >> talking books.... so, it can be possible in case, got help you, you
> >> find yourself in this way.
> >> for today, Car
> >> 408-209-3239
> >>
> >> Courtney, I have to disagree with you on braille textbooks. I
> >> actually find them more useful than audio textbooks. Granted, I'm in
> >> high school, so I'm probably not moving at as fast a pace as college
> >> students, but still. If you read a braille book in an electric format
> >> with a notetaker (I use a braillenote apex), you can use the Find
> >> command to search for important keywords if you're trying to look up
> >> something quickly. You can also move by paragraph and by page if you
> >> wish to skip irrelevant material. For me at least, I comprehend more
> >> when I read braille. I do okay with audio, but when I read it with my
> >> fingers, I tend to absorb more of the information, whereas when I'm
> >> listening to it, I occasionally zone out and miss something. This is
> >> more important for some classes than others, but reading braille
> >> tells us how to spell things. Braille also allows us to see what's
> >> underlined or italicized, which may be important for some lessons.
> >> These are just my thoughts. Have a great day!
> >>
> >>> Sincer>>
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