[nabs-l] Music forBandwasRE:adjustingtohighschool(was:Re:[]newyear)

Mon Jan 6 04:10:14 UTC 2014

The Apex converts it.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 18:38:49 -0500
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music 
forBandwasRE:adjustingtohighschool(was:Re:[]newyear)

Hi Marissa,

Which files are you trying to convert to brf?  Music is not like 
other
print stuff that can just be scanned and converted to a different
format.  Music in print, as well as music in braille, are 
different
codes and follow different rules, and you need different software 
than
Duxberry or Openbook to edit and make the conversions.  If you 
need a
brf file you will have to get a transcriber to edit the music and
email it to you.

On 1/5/14, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Lucky you.
 I only have the Apex.

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Mikayla Gephart <mikgephart at icloud.com
 To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 10:27:10 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for
 BandwasRE:adjustingtohighschool(was:Re:[]newyear)

 In New Jersey, we have the Comission for the Blind, and they get
 me all of my equiptment.  Plus, my TVI works for them.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Jan 5, 2014, at 6:20 AM, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com
 wrote:

  If I had a display that worked, I know how to convert files to
 brf on the Apex.  We do not have an embosser, no, but I'm trying
 to get them to get me the small desktop one from Humanware.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 02:21:00 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for
 BandwasRE:adjustingtohighschool(was:Re:[]new year)

  Marissa,

  I know how you feel, but it is the law that all teachers, even
 band
  directors, have to provide an equal education to ALL students.
 I know
  that blind students are not common in most band programs, and
 most of
  us who do join band are the first blind students our directors
 have
  met, but I know I was the first blind student for a majority of
 my
  teachers in other subjects and they had to follow the rules.
 The
  problem is that school districts and band directors do not 
think
 these
  standards apply to the music classes, and the result is that
 students
  with needs that are out of the norm fall through the cracks.

  If you're going to use a braille display to read music you will
 still
  need a transcriber to edit the print music file and turn it 
into
 a brf
  or gf format.  What is really helpful if you don't have a
 display but
  have an embosser at school is to get the transcriber to email
 you the
  completed brf or gf file and emboss them using Duxberry or a
 similar
  software.

  I couldn't find that list for some reason when I looked 
earlier,
 but
  I'll keep looking for it.  :)

  On 1/4/14, marissa <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:

  If I send it in, I won't be able to do much because the only
  thing I have is the Braille Writer, I can't use that in some
  classes because I do not have a braille writer in them.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net
  To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 21:44:37 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for Band
  wasRE:adjustingtohighschool(was:Re:[]new year)

  Marisa,
  have the apex fixed; humanware can fix the braille display; 
that
  must suck
  to have
  trouble with the display because that is a major benefit of the
  apex.

  If I were you, I'd press to have it fixed.  Since the display
  isn't an
  option, just emboss the braille music.  Your TVI or aid should
 be
  able to
  emboss it for you.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: marissa
  Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 9:34 PM
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for Band was
  RE:adjustingtohighschool(was:Re:[]new year)

  No, All I have is the Apex, and it is getting on my last nerve
  anyway.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Mikayla Gephart <mikgephart at icloud.com
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 21:03:47 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for Band was RE:
  adjustingtohighschool(was:Re:[]new year)

  Hmmm! Do you have an I'phone or I'pad with a braille display?

  Sent from my iPad

  On Jan 4, 2014, at 8:59 PM, marissa 
<pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com
  wrote:

  I am Mr Sanders' first blind student.  I feel bad for him
  sometimes, because he is so new to this.  The
  really cool thing is this: he never smiles (according to
  friends), never laughs or anything, just has a straight face 
all
  the time.  Whenever I give him something, (like a braille
  picture), or tell him something, he'll laugh or smile.  My
  friends think it's a miracle and I can't help, but laugh too.

  We are having a new thing at our school, starting Monday, bring
  your own device.  I have my braille note Apex, which would be
  able to read the music, if only the display worked.  The thing
  is, if Sanders sent it to me, which I'm sure he wouldn't mind 
if
  I explained the machine to him, I would be able to read it off
 of
  the display, just like everyone else reading their phones,
  tablets, etc.  But because of the display, this does not seem
  very effective.
  I have tried recording the band to see if I can learn by ear,
  didn't help, although I did get some sweet recordings.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kaiti Shelton <crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 20:24:31 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for Band was RE:
  adjustingtohighschool(was:Re:[] new year)

  Hi Marissa,

  Here is a suggestion I have posted to a couple of other lists 
on
  this
  topic.  I had similar issues in high school; my band was really
  large
  like your's, and the director chose to not devote the time to
  providing me an equal music education to my sighted peers.  
This
  is
  exactly what your director is doing, and if it did not work in
  the IEP
  meeting the best thing you can do is take him as far out of the
  braille music situation as possible.  This means that you will
  simply
  ask him to give you the print copies of your music as far in
  advance
  as possible and then send them to a transcriber from NLS
  yourself.
  Giving you the music is all he will have to do, he won't have 
to
  edit
  things, work with Goodfeel, or do anything beyond have an open
  line of
  communication with you and have an idea of which pieces the 
band
  will
  be playing for their next concert.

  It is sad that this seems like the solution to your problem, 
and
  what
  your director is doing really isn't fair, but sometimes when we
  can't
  get our instructors to do their part we need to take matters
  into our
  own hands.

  The NLS site has a list online which shows all their certified
  braille
  music transcribers along with email addresses for each person.
  You
  can email one in your state about getting your band music
  brailled.  I
  would have never gotten a single piece of braille music in high
  school
  had I waited for my band director to tow the line.

  I will find the link to the list of transcribers and post it to
  this
  thread.  I hope it will be of help.  Also, I have talked to
  other
  student's instructors about accomodations in music before, so 
if
  you
  would like someone who has gone through high school music
  classes and
  is now majoring in music in college to speak to someone I would
  be
  glad to.  I have found that most often when a director says, "I
  don't
  have time," they know that isn't an acceptable excuse, but
  they're
  scared of the commitment that they think will be required of
  them to
  produce braille music.  Really, it isn't that big of a
  commitment at
  all, especially if you out source the transcription.

  On 1/4/14, Koby Cox <kobycox at gmail.com> wrote:
  Would you be interested In exchangeing phone numbers and or
  contact
  details?
  Right back soon,
  Koby.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
  Mikayla
  Gephart
  Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 6:59 PM
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for Band was RE: adjustingto
  highschool(was:Re:[] new year)

  Yes, but I primarily use it for calls and texts.

  Sent from my iPad

  On Jan 4, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Koby Cox <kobycox at gmail.com> wrote:

  That's cool.  I see that you have a iPad do you also have a
  iPhone?
  Right back soon,
  Koby.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
  Mikayla
  Gephart
  Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 6:52 PM
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for Band was RE: adjustingto
  highschool(was:Re:[] new year)

  some vision, but not enough to rely on large print.

  Sent from my iPad

  On Jan 4, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Koby Cox <kobycox at gmail.com> wrote:

  Are you totally blind or do you have some vision?
  Right back soon,
  Koby.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
  Mikayla
  Gephart
  Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 6:11 PM
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for Band was RE: adjustingto
  highschool(was:Re:[] new year)

  No, I am in Choir and Student Council.  My favorite hobby is
  swimming.

  Sent from my iPad

  On Jan 4, 2014, at 7:09 PM, Koby Cox <kobycox at gmail.com> wrote:

  Are you In band? Also, what do you like to do for fun?
  Right back soon,
  Koby
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 4, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Mikayla Gephart
  <mikgephart at icloud.com
  wrote:

  Thirteen.  Please excuse the M in my previous message, I was
  typing
  a
  little to fast.

  Sent from my iPad

  On Jan 4, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Koby Cox <kobycox at gmail.com> wrote:

  How old are you?
  Right back soon,
  Koby
  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 4, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Mikayla Gephart
  <mikgephart at icloud.com
  wrote:

  Moo, but she has been with me for six years, read the chart, 
and
  figured it out.

  Sent from my iPad

  On Jan 4, 2014, at 6:28 PM, marissa
  <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com
  wrote:

  Does she know braille music?
  If so, you are very lucky.  As I said before, no one knows it
  it,
  which means that I'm sitting in my band class doing nothing, 
but
  listening, which isn't very helpful when the teacher isn't
  there.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Mikayla Gephart <mikgephart at icloud.com
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 17:51:14 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for Band was RE: adjustingto
  highschool(was:Re:[] new year)

  My aide brailles my choir music, but just this year, she wanted
  me
  to learn it.

  Sent from my iPad

  On Jan 4, 2014, at 5:39 PM, Ashley Bramlett
  <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:

  Hi Marissa,
  All states are different; if nls needs someone over 18 in your
  state to do it, then just keep politely reminding your aunt or
  whomever
  needs to call.
  Some libraries have an email address to send your request to.  
I
  think that question is best answered by a librarian in your
  cooperating
  library.
  We are fortunate here to have our talking book program part of
  the
  library branch system of the county; they are county employees.
  They also do outreach to other disabled people, not just blind
  people.
  I was able to order my own books as a high school student.  But
  perhaps your area is different.

  I would also recommend trying the distance education program,
  hadley school for the blind, to learn braille music.

  I've heard braille music is quite different than regular
  braille;
  I never learned it, but was not in band.  I did do choir a few
  years.
  but it was easy to catch on the music and rhythym by listening.
  in
  fact, learning braille music never crossed my mind; I simply
  went to
  class and sang like everyone else; sometimes they brailled the
  lyrics
  for me though.

  That's too bad no one in your area is available to teach you
  braille music, if you want to learn it.  There are camps for
  blind
  musicians, and perhaps this may be an option to learn the code
  and
  meet
  other blind musicians.

  Ashley

  -----Original Message----- From: marissa
  Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2014 1:17 PM
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for Band was RE: adjusting to
  highschool(was:Re:[] new year)

  You can request it online?
  How?

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Lillie Pennington <lilliepennington at fuse.net
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 12:26:07 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for Band was RE: adjusting to high
  school(was:Re:[] new year)

  You should be able to call yourself or be able to request it
  online.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Jan 4, 2014, at 10:49 AM, marissa
  <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:

  I'm working on it, the basics with a chart that someone gave 
me.
  No one has time to teach me, so I have to teach myself.  They
  would teach me if they could, but noone knows braille music.
  I'm
  trying to get the book from NLS, but my aunt keeps forgeting to
  call, so that one's out.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Mikayla Gephart <mikgephart at icloud.com
  To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 10:40:28 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Music for Band was RE: adjusting to high
  school (was:Re:[] new year)

  Do you know Braille Music?

  Sent from my iPad

  On Jan 4, 2014, at 12:28 AM, marissa
  <pianogirlforlife7 at gmail.com> wrote:

  They do not know braille music.  I have asked repeatedly.  I
  brought it up at my i.EddP a few weeks ago.  Didn't help.  I
  told
  my casecarrier about Dancing Dots  and she told me to tell Mr
  Sanders, my band director.  I emailed him, because he never has
  time during class for much because it is a band of 90 students.
  Hasn't replied.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
  To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 00:13:06 -0500
  Subject: [nabs-l] Music for Band was RE: adjusting to high
  school (was: Re:[] new year)

  Marissa,

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