[nabs-l] marketing class

Sat Jan 11 00:03:53 UTC 2014

Hi Emily,
Thanks. So where are you at school? what is your major?
What are some of the major things you learned? There is one more professor I 
can try for next semester. Maybe he will be understanding.

As I said, I just want to take it for the business and consumer knowledge. 
I'm a bit sad and frustrated because I tried last semester to take it only 
to learn two professors required a marketing computer simulation; I would 
not be able to see this, so opted not to take it. I may have gotten an 
alternate assignment, but I did not want to pay for a class knowing I could 
not do a major part of the course because its inherriently inaccessible.

I don't think the professor will work with me.
I wrote only three emails. Today, I asked her this. I understand the videos 
are a critical component to class. Will you provide the material another way 
such as describing it to me or giving me copies to watch outside class?
End question.

I'm glad to hear the blackboard discussion is working; last time it was not 
but that was a few years back.
The professor wrote back reiterating she is Not on campus, will not call 
students, will not give out her number to discuss anything,
and feels her spontaneous teaching style is not good for me; I would not see 
her white board notes either. I would not see the powerpoints, but I could 
get copies I know.

I don't think I should work with someone like this.
I'm glad you had a good experience but your professor seemed more open.

Here is just an excerpt of her hurtful email. and keep in mind I only wrote 
three times which btw is not much if you are having a discussion. also, I 
waited for her responses! I did not! email and email same stuff and bother 
her.
Some students do that; I know because professors complain about that; 
students do that and fail to wait for a response.

Here is the excerpt.
Thank you for your phone number. However, I do not call students, nor do I 
provide my phone number. I've also written that, as an adjunct, I am not on 
campus except when I have classes. That said and based on the frequency of 
your recent emails, I may not be as accessible as you might require.

I am concerned that the spontaneity of my classes may not be appropriate for 
the best learning experience for you. I often decide at the last minute if 
and what video I will use. The sources are not predictable. It's wherever I 
find the most appropriate video. I do not have prepared notes for the White 
Board, as they are often based on the classroom discussions, as I've 
mentioned before.

I have indicated there is much Team work, including the Final Project. There 
are Powerpoints and presentations involved in all the Team work. I have 
concern for you and your Teammates in preparing this work, since there is 
often not a great deal of lead time.

end note.

Isn't this bad? Oh, why oh why do schools hire such closed minded people. 
Okay, she is not required to call me, and not required to give out her 
number. but she should be willing to dialogue with students even if it means 
emails or heaven forbid, staying on campus to be accessible.

Okay done ranting.
Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: Emily Pennington
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 4:02 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] marketing class

Hi, Ashley.
Last spring, I took a Principles of Marketing class, and it wasn't bad at
all in terms of accessibility. Like your professor, mine lectured with
PowerPoints and showed several videos in class. While the dialogue in the
videos was helpful (depending on the commercial or advertisement), there
were some visual things I often missed. However, my professor would briefly
discuss the video afterword, asking the class what they observed and
reiterating what they had seen. It helped me fill in most of the missing
pieces. If your professor shows the videos in class, you could ask her to
reiterate and discuss what went on -- namely, what she wanted the class to
see in particular.
My Marketing class didn't have a Blackboard discussion component, although
I've been in several other classes in which it has played a major role. The
discussion forums on Blackboard are very accessible; I used JAWS and never
had any difficulty once I familiarized myself with the page. It's easy to
upload file assignments, too; there is usually a submit assignments link,
and you either upload the file by browsing your computer or cut and paste
the text of your assignment, depending on what your teacher prefers.
Feel free to write me off-list if you have any more questions. I hope this
helped, to an extent. Marketing is a great business class to take.

Take care,
Emily
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:07 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] marketing class

> Hi all,
>
> I am debating whether to take intro to marketing or another business 
> class. I’m taking a class more for the knowledge, as a resume builder, and 
> something to do as I look for work. My goals are to learn something for 
> the work world; I may want to go into marketing or communications; I have 
> a liberal studies degree.
> I also want to learn about the office environment and how it functions.
>
> I’m hesitant though as I wonder just how accessible the class will be. In 
> the past, group work using case studies, videos, and blackboard 
> discussions has posed a big problem.
>
> The professor says she lectures from powerpoint. This is typical as many 
> teachers do it; she also uses class discussion, group activities, case 
> studies, and videos.
> I could benefit from lectures and discussion as everyone else does.
>
> But she indicates we use ocasional group blackboard discussion and videos 
> are critical.
>
> So my questions. Have you taken marketing? If so, what was your 
> experience? Did you run into these challenges and how did you deal with 
> them?
>
> Is the blackboard submission link accessible? How about discussions?
> I may have issues with group projects, but that would be the same with the 
> business organization development class too.
>
> How did you get access to video content? I would ask the professor 
> questions, but she is adjunct and does not have an office on campus. she 
> already told me in her email that she is only on campus to teach, and 
> furthermore, the best communication channel is email. This eliminates the 
> idea of discussing stuff either on phone, skype, or in person in her 
> office. Often, face to face is best, because emails you can go round and 
> round and not be helped. Now, with a discussion, you can have more of an 
> understanding, in my opinion.
>
> So, I’m just thinking aloud. My last professor for religion showed videos 
> extensively, but we worked it out. she spoke to me after class to answer 
> my questions or if there was some action she felt I needed, she told me 
> after class.
> Additionally, any concerns we discussed in office hours; she was full 
> time, and had office on campus.
>
> I’ll check online and see if there are any ratings for the marketing 
> professor.
>
> Look forward to ideas.
> Ashley
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