[nabs-l] marketing class

Sat Jan 11 00:11:55 UTC 2014

Personally I would speak to disabled students services and have them let
the professor know that their classes need to be accessible.

Also, even if you don't take the class I believe Disabled Student Services
needs to let this person know that they do need to spend the time to make
sure things are set up.  If that means making a phone call or coming up to
campus to meet a student then they need to do it.

I email all my professors before a class starts and introduce myself and
let them know my accommodations. So far most have gone out of thier way to
provide the info I need before class starts.

Suzanne

On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Ashley Bramlett
<bookwormahb at earthlink.net>wrote:

> Hi Emily,
> Thanks. So where are you at school? what is your major?
> What are some of the major things you learned? There is one more professor
> I can try for next semester. Maybe he will be understanding.
>
> As I said, I just want to take it for the business and consumer knowledge.
> I'm a bit sad and frustrated because I tried last semester to take it only
> to learn two professors required a marketing computer simulation; I would
> not be able to see this, so opted not to take it. I may have gotten an
> alternate assignment, but I did not want to pay for a class knowing I could
> not do a major part of the course because its inherriently inaccessible.
>
> I don't think the professor will work with me.
> I wrote only three emails. Today, I asked her this. I understand the
> videos are a critical component to class. Will you provide the material
> another way such as describing it to me or giving me copies to watch
> outside class?
> End question.
>
> I'm glad to hear the blackboard discussion is working; last time it was
> not but that was a few years back.
> The professor wrote back reiterating she is Not on campus, will not call
> students, will not give out her number to discuss anything,
> and feels her spontaneous teaching style is not good for me; I would not
> see her white board notes either. I would not see the powerpoints, but I
> could get copies I know.
>
> I don't think I should work with someone like this.
> I'm glad you had a good experience but your professor seemed more open.
>
> Here is just an excerpt of her hurtful email. and keep in mind I only
> wrote three times which btw is not much if you are having a discussion.
> also, I waited for her responses! I did not! email and email same stuff and
> bother her.
> Some students do that; I know because professors complain about that;
> students do that and fail to wait for a response.
>
> Here is the excerpt.
> Thank you for your phone number. However, I do not call students, nor do I
> provide my phone number. I've also written that, as an adjunct, I am not on
> campus except when I have classes. That said and based on the frequency of
> your recent emails, I may not be as accessible as you might require.
>
> I am concerned that the spontaneity of my classes may not be appropriate
> for the best learning experience for you. I often decide at the last minute
> if and what video I will use. The sources are not predictable. It's
> wherever I find the most appropriate video. I do not have prepared notes
> for the White Board, as they are often based on the classroom discussions,
> as I've mentioned before.
>
> I have indicated there is much Team work, including the Final Project.
> There are Powerpoints and presentations involved in all the Team work. I
> have concern for you and your Teammates in preparing this work, since there
> is often not a great deal of lead time.
>
> end note.
>
> Isn't this bad? Oh, why oh why do schools hire such closed minded people.
> Okay, she is not required to call me, and not required to give out her
> number. but she should be willing to dialogue with students even if it
> means emails or heaven forbid, staying on campus to be accessible.
>
> Okay done ranting.
> Ashley
> -----Original Message----- From: Emily Pennington
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 4:02 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] marketing class
>
> Hi, Ashley.
> Last spring, I took a Principles of Marketing class, and it wasn't bad at
> all in terms of accessibility. Like your professor, mine lectured with
> PowerPoints and showed several videos in class. While the dialogue in the
> videos was helpful (depending on the commercial or advertisement), there
> were some visual things I often missed. However, my professor would briefly
> discuss the video afterword, asking the class what they observed and
> reiterating what they had seen. It helped me fill in most of the missing
> pieces. If your professor shows the videos in class, you could ask her to
> reiterate and discuss what went on -- namely, what she wanted the class to
> see in particular.
> My Marketing class didn't have a Blackboard discussion component, although
> I've been in several other classes in which it has played a major role. The
> discussion forums on Blackboard are very accessible; I used JAWS and never
> had any difficulty once I familiarized myself with the page. It's easy to
> upload file assignments, too; there is usually a submit assignments link,
> and you either upload the file by browsing your computer or cut and paste
> the text of your assignment, depending on what your teacher prefers.
> Feel free to write me off-list if you have any more questions. I hope this
> helped, to an extent. Marketing is a great business class to take.
>
> Take care,
> Emily
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ashley Bramlett" <
> bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:07 PM
> Subject: [nabs-l] marketing class
>
>
>  Hi all,
>>
>> I am debating whether to take intro to marketing or another business
>> class. I’m taking a class more for the knowledge, as a resume builder, and
>> something to do as I look for work. My goals are to learn something for the
>> work world; I may want to go into marketing or communications; I have a
>> liberal studies degree.
>> I also want to learn about the office environment and how it functions.
>>
>> I’m hesitant though as I wonder just how accessible the class will be. In
>> the past, group work using case studies, videos, and blackboard discussions
>> has posed a big problem.
>>
>> The professor says she lectures from powerpoint. This is typical as many
>> teachers do it; she also uses class discussion, group activities, case
>> studies, and videos.
>> I could benefit from lectures and discussion as everyone else does.
>>
>> But she indicates we use ocasional group blackboard discussion and videos
>> are critical.
>>
>> So my questions. Have you taken marketing? If so, what was your
>> experience? Did you run into these challenges and how did you deal with
>> them?
>>
>> Is the blackboard submission link accessible? How about discussions?
>> I may have issues with group projects, but that would be the same with
>> the business organization development class too.
>>
>> How did you get access to video content? I would ask the professor
>> questions, but she is adjunct and does not have an office on campus. she
>> already told me in her email that she is only on campus to teach, and
>> furthermore, the best communication channel is email. This eliminates the
>> idea of discussing stuff either on phone, skype, or in person in her
>> office. Often, face to face is best, because emails you can go round and
>> round and not be helped. Now, with a discussion, you can have more of an
>> understanding, in my opinion.
>>
>> So, I’m just thinking aloud. My last professor for religion showed videos
>> extensively, but we worked it out. she spoke to me after class to answer my
>> questions or if there was some action she felt I needed, she told me after
>> class.
>> Additionally, any concerns we discussed in office hours; she was full
>> time, and had office on campus.
>>
>> I’ll check online and see if there are any ratings for the marketing
>> professor.
>>
>> Look forward to ideas.
>> Ashley
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