[nabs-l] Special Ed Certification

Fri Jan 31 13:19:20 UTC 2014

Yeah, it si tough; it's good to have more than one option, or be okya to
moving to another location or some such like that.  You can spend years
banging your head against a brick wall and waist valuable career time in the
wrong location.  

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 7:45 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list; jsoro620 at gmail.com;
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Special Ed Certification

Good morning, Beth,

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  At 04:14 AM 1/31/2014, Beth Taurasi wrote:
>Speaking of people that do one thing and end up in another thing, I 
>tried social work, but was discouraged by doctors, psychologists who 
>were low quality, and Rehab.  They said it was because of a mental 
>health issue.  But here's the catch: the mental health counselor said I 
>was "pretending to be Arab" at the time when I was wearing a Muslim 
>veil in his office.  What a discriminatory person I say.  As far as 
>special ed certification, such a question should not be asked can the 
>blind student avoid a student who's going to punch them. If they are 
>injured, so whawt?  Everybody gets injured.  Give that certification to 
>my boyfriend, who has a black belt in tai kwon do, and he'd do what he 
>could to avoid his "opponent."  I don't know how to help this person, 
>but it seems everybody doesn't want blind people to pursue their dreams 
>and they'll find any weakness or excuse not to do so.
>Beth
>
>On 1/30/2014 8:08 PM, Joe wrote:
>>Hi, what makes this difficult is that the information I'm getting is 
>>secondhand. The observations, as far as I understand them, are things 
>>like being able to correct an academic error as it is happening. How 
>>would a blind student avoid a child who is about to punch them? How 
>>would a blind person be able to assist if the child, for example, has a
medical emergency?
>>It's not vocational rehab that is suggesting this person teach other 
>>blind students. It's the certification programs at two separate
universities.
>>Apparently blind students in Texas have tried to gain certification 
>>but have been unsuccessful and have instead wound up in other career 
>>paths. I hope this provides a little more background. Thanks for the 
>>feedback. I think you're right that the individual needs to engage in 
>>a little more self-advocacy, but this is a case where that is easier 
>>recommended than carried out. If I were down there, I'd raise a little 
>>hell, but barring that, I'm hoping to either recommend a good advocate 
>>or make some specific suggestions to try to help the individual. Thanks
again.
>>
>>--
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>>
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>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Bridget Walker [mailto:bridgetawalker13 at aol.com]
>>Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 9:34 PM
>>To: jsoro620 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing 
>>list
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Special Ed Certification
>>
>>Hi Joe,
>>
>>I'm working on my certification in adolescent special ed and English 
>>Ed right now. I am specializing in working with students with multiple 
>>and severe disabilities. I can tell you I am still at the undergrad 
>>level but, will be graduating next spring.
>>When I complete my field hours it is tough. I am just about to start a 
>>new placement in a public high school in a mainstream English class 
>>but, there has been debate if I can really handle working with sighted 
>>students with mixed abilities.
>>I can't say there is much needed in regards to observation 
>>accommodations in a field placement. Perhaps I am misunderstanding 
>>you. Can you give me an example of what might be needed?
>>Is the school concerned this individual will not know what will be 
>>going on in the classroom? There are all kinds of classroom management 
>>techniques out there. This is again another place where an explanation may
be needed.
>>Your friend has to go in strong not coke and show she has the education.
>>Sometimes it helps to explain some techniques you use as a teacher 
>>without vision. After all you are a teacher your job is to educate and 
>>believe it or not sometimes that includes your superiors.
>>I think it is ironic the state vocational rehab agency is saying for 
>>her to go to a school for the blind to teach or become a councilor.
>>I did some field placements at a school for the blind and it is no 
>>different then regular education. Do they really think blind kids are 
>>not going to act out and pull stuff over on there teachers especially 
>>if they know they are blind? I really think it is easier to teach sighted
kids but that's just me.
>>
>>Vocational rehab can not tell her what to do clearly she knows what 
>>she is doing with a 4.0 GPA. Keep fighting.
>>I hope this helps.
>>Please feel free to contact me if you have any more questions.
>>Regards,
>>Bridget
>>
>>Sent from my iPad
>>
>>>On Jan 30, 2014, at 8:49 PM, "Joe" <jsoro620 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>There's a student in Texas who is having difficulty obtaining a 
>>>certification in special education. The student has been told they 
>>>would be better off pursuing a second Master's to become a vision 
>>>itinerant teacher or using the credentials they have to be a 
>>>counselor in the state's vocational rehabilitation agency. The 
>>>student would rather work with general special ed, specifically 
>>>elementary-age students
>>with behavioral disorders.
>>>Unfortunately, there are a lot of concerns about making special 
>>>accommodations and the student's independent ability to make certain 
>>>observations. Now, I have zero experience in education, special or 
>>>otherwise. Are there people here who have, or are, pursuing this type 
>>>of career path who could pass along some tips for success? The 
>>>student is a hard-working 4.0 GPA achiever. It seems generally and 
>>>legally incorrect that placements in general special education 
>>>classes suddenly disappear when the student informs the coordinators 
>>>they are blind. Further, the student should not be sent to a state 
>>>school for the blind by default just because the student is blind. 
>>>Any thoughts,
>>advice and referrals would be welcomed.
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>http://joeorozco.com/blog
>>>
>>>
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