From desai1shikha at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 03:37:49 2014
From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 23:37:49 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
Message-ID: <FCBCE45D-9CCD-4E77-94C2-52004F8CC6C7@gmail.com>



Hey david 
Are you going to record the NABS meeting 
Shikha. 


From desai1shikha at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 04:30:33 2014
From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 00:30:33 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A Message For Macy McClain
In-Reply-To: <53b1b2ac.87263c0a.1ae9.3607@mx.google.com>
References: <53b1b2ac.87263c0a.1ae9.3607@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <8A96874F-93AB-4A36-B43A-EEB8EA9E2EE7@gmail.com>

Macy is not going to national convention this year 


Shikha. 

> On Jun 30, 2014, at 2:54 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Nabs Members,
> 
> I hope everyone is having a great time at this year's national convention.  I was wccndering if any of you have heard from Macy McClain.  My friend Joshua Lester from Arkansas is concerned about her.  I have also been wondering where she has been.  If you know anything about her please respond as soon as possible.
> 
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From internetradioentertainer at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 13:12:17 2014
From: internetradioentertainer at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 09:12:17 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
In-Reply-To: <FCBCE45D-9CCD-4E77-94C2-52004F8CC6C7@gmail.com>
References: <FCBCE45D-9CCD-4E77-94C2-52004F8CC6C7@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53B2B3B1.7010007@gmail.com>

Yes, the nabs meeting will be streamed and recorded, this way, if the 
streaam breaks, the meeting can be uploaded. You will get it all, btw, 
if you're going to convention Shika, look me up.
On 6/30/2014 11:37 PM, Shikha via nabs-l wrote:
>
> Hey david
> Are you going to record the NABS meeting
> Shikha.
>
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From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 13:31:27 2014
From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:31:27 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
In-Reply-To: <53B2B3B1.7010007@gmail.com>
References: <FCBCE45D-9CCD-4E77-94C2-52004F8CC6C7@gmail.com>
	<53B2B3B1.7010007@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2A7D3A7D-BC8B-499E-BF17-9A3629196B3D@gmail.com>

David,

I'd love to hang out with you sometime this week as well. I'll look you up at the front desk.

Chris Nusbaum

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:12 AM, David Dunphy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the nabs meeting will be streamed and recorded, this way, if the streaam breaks, the meeting can be uploaded. You will get it all, btw, if you're going to convention Shika, look me up.
>> On 6/30/2014 11:37 PM, Shikha via nabs-l wrote:
>> 
>> Hey david
>> Are you going to record the NABS meeting
>> Shikha.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
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From desai1shikha at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 13:41:34 2014
From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:41:34 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
In-Reply-To: <53B2B3B1.7010007@gmail.com>
References: <FCBCE45D-9CCD-4E77-94C2-52004F8CC6C7@gmail.com>
	<53B2B3B1.7010007@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3431ACC4-DABE-43C9-B822-E15ED6CE9DF0@gmail.com>

Ok 
I am in the hotel 

Shikha. 

> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:12 AM, David Dunphy <internetradioentertainer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the nabs meeting will be streamed and recorded, this way, if the streaam breaks, the meeting can be uploaded. You will get it all, btw, if you're going to convention Shika, look me up.
>> On 6/30/2014 11:37 PM, Shikha via nabs-l wrote:
>> 
>> Hey david
>> Are you going to record the NABS meeting
>> Shikha.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
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> 


From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 15:01:10 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:01:10 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
In-Reply-To: <2A7D3A7D-BC8B-499E-BF17-9A3629196B3D@gmail.com>
References: <FCBCE45D-9CCD-4E77-94C2-52004F8CC6C7@gmail.com>
	<53B2B3B1.7010007@gmail.com>
	<2A7D3A7D-BC8B-499E-BF17-9A3629196B3D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BDDDF556-3447-4525-9E28-9BC3A7B891C5@gmail.com>

Hi All! I would like to meet some of you at Convention as well! In Fact, Chris I would like to meet you over there! What's your cell phone number again? I'm just wondering! since I can't find it in my phone in order to reach you! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks And God bless!! :) 
P.S. If anyone wants to reach me in order to meet! my cell phone number is below in my email signature! And if I don't answer, you can text me, but tell me who you are, and your name! and last name! Thanks again! And hope to hear from you all! ;) 

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT) 


Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> I'd love to hang out with you sometime this week as well. I'll look you up at the front desk.
> 
> Chris Nusbaum
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:12 AM, David Dunphy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, the nabs meeting will be streamed and recorded, this way, if the streaam breaks, the meeting can be uploaded. You will get it all, btw, if you're going to convention Shika, look me up.
>>> On 6/30/2014 11:37 PM, Shikha via nabs-l wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey david
>>> Are you going to record the NABS meeting
>>> Shikha.
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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>> 
>> 
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  1 15:52:51 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:52:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS33872BA9D1723BD12D4866CBA070@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

I think it is really great that everyone wants to reconnect with old friends
at national convention, and perhaps make a new friend from someone who
subscribes to this email list. However, the purpose of this email list is to
share tips, tricks, and insights on living our lives as blind students. It
should not be used to send personal messages to someone you wish to connect
with at national convention. 

If there is a particular individual you wish to meet while attending
national convention, I respectfully ask that you contact them directly
rather than contacting them through the email list. If you use an email
client such as Outlook, this is rather simple to do. When replying to a
message on the email list, simply tab up to the address field, and delete
the email address to the email list. The email address of the person who
sent the message will then be the only email address in the address line,
and your message will be sent to this individual rather than the entire
email list.

And generally, national convention is a rather busy place, so the chances of
the individual you are trying to contact will actually take the time to read
the emails sent to this email list during convention is rather slim. If the
person is registered with the hotel, you could always try contacting their
room by providing the hotel operator with their name. And if all else fails,
you can always look for a fellow blind student at tonight's NABS social or
the NABS business meeting tomorrow night. Both of these events are great
places to meet up with fellow NABS members.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth



From haleysumner at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul  1 17:41:20 2014
From: haleysumner at sbcglobal.net (Haley Sumnerr)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 13:41:20 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
Message-ID: <73594144-B6A8-4257-92AD-A024A06B24A1@sbcglobal.net>

Hey all, 
I will not be attending convention this year, so where can I go to access the stream tommorrow night during the nabs meeting? 
Thanks, 
Haley sumner 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 1, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Helga Schreiber via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All! I would like to meet some of you at Convention as well! In Fact, Chris I would like to meet you over there! What's your cell phone number again? I'm just wondering! since I can't find it in my phone in order to reach you! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks And God bless!! :) 
> P.S. If anyone wants to reach me in order to meet! my cell phone number is below in my email signature! And if I don't answer, you can text me, but tell me who you are, and your name! and last name! Thanks again! And hope to hear from you all! ;) 
> 
> Helga Schreiber
> 
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
> 
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT) 
> 
> 
> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> David,
>> 
>> I'd love to hang out with you sometime this week as well. I'll look you up at the front desk.
>> 
>> Chris Nusbaum
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:12 AM, David Dunphy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, the nabs meeting will be streamed and recorded, this way, if the streaam breaks, the meeting can be uploaded. You will get it all, btw, if you're going to convention Shika, look me up.
>>>> On 6/30/2014 11:37 PM, Shikha via nabs-l wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey david
>>>> Are you going to record the NABS meeting
>>>> Shikha.
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/internetradioentertainer%40gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 18:16:18 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 14:16:18 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
References: <73594144-B6A8-4257-92AD-A024A06B24A1@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <8705E016CFF64A128958B8A55F1D833C@robert9999b7cf>

Haley, I'm not eather, and I'd like to know this information as well. Dr. RJ 
Sandefur
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Haley Sumnerr via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention


> Hey all,
> I will not be attending convention this year, so where can I go to access 
> the stream tommorrow night during the nabs meeting?
> Thanks,
> Haley sumner
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Helga Schreiber via nabs-l 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All! I would like to meet some of you at Convention as well! In Fact, 
>> Chris I would like to meet you over there! What's your cell phone number 
>> again? I'm just wondering! since I can't find it in my phone in order to 
>> reach you! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks And God bless!! :)
>> P.S. If anyone wants to reach me in order to meet! my cell phone number 
>> is below in my email signature! And if I don't answer, you can text me, 
>> but tell me who you are, and your name! and last name! Thanks again! And 
>> hope to hear from you all! ;)
>>
>> Helga Schreiber
>>
>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>>
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
>> Blind Students
>> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>>
>>
>> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 
>> 3:16
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I'd love to hang out with you sometime this week as well. I'll look you 
>>> up at the front desk.
>>>
>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:12 AM, David Dunphy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the nabs meeting will be streamed and recorded, this way, if the 
>>>> streaam breaks, the meeting can be uploaded. You will get it all, btw, 
>>>> if you're going to convention Shika, look me up.
>>>>> On 6/30/2014 11:37 PM, Shikha via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey david
>>>>> Are you going to record the NABS meeting
>>>>> Shikha.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/internetradioentertainer%40gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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>>
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From jim.hulme at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 18:20:46 2014
From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 14:20:46 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
In-Reply-To: <8705E016CFF64A128958B8A55F1D833C@robert9999b7cf>
References: <73594144-B6A8-4257-92AD-A024A06B24A1@sbcglobal.net>
	<8705E016CFF64A128958B8A55F1D833C@robert9999b7cf>
Message-ID: <CAKMC2e7QmhF=O1D7OqtyT=sgaL3Ft5WL19QZEjCX7YVwMPHzrQ@mail.gmail.com>

follow this link and please click on the player of your choice.


Please stay in touch with David Dunphy as he provides us with the stream of
the NABS meeting.

Convention Stream <http://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule>

Hope that helps.


Jimmy Hulme
jim.hulme at gmail.com


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Haley, I'm not eather, and I'd like to know this information as well. Dr.
> RJ Sandefur
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haley Sumnerr via nabs-l" <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National
> Convention
>
>
>  Hey all,
>> I will not be attending convention this year, so where can I go to access
>> the stream tommorrow night during the nabs meeting?
>> Thanks,
>> Haley sumner
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>  On Jul 1, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Helga Schreiber via nabs-l <
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All! I would like to meet some of you at Convention as well! In Fact,
>>> Chris I would like to meet you over there! What's your cell phone number
>>> again? I'm just wondering! since I can't find it in my phone in order to
>>> reach you! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks And God bless!! :)
>>> P.S. If anyone wants to reach me in order to meet! my cell phone number
>>> is below in my email signature! And if I don't answer, you can text me, but
>>> tell me who you are, and your name! and last name! Thanks again! And hope
>>> to hear from you all! ;)
>>>
>>> Helga Schreiber
>>>
>>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>>>
>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
>>> Blind Students
>>> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>>>
>>>
>>> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>>
>>>
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
>>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>  On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to hang out with you sometime this week as well. I'll look you
>>>> up at the front desk.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>  On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:12 AM, David Dunphy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, the nabs meeting will be streamed and recorded, this way, if the
>>>>> streaam breaks, the meeting can be uploaded. You will get it all, btw, if
>>>>> you're going to convention Shika, look me up.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/30/2014 11:37 PM, Shikha via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey david
>>>>>> Are you going to record the NABS meeting
>>>>>> Shikha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/
>>>>>> internetradioentertainer%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
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>>>>> dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 18:26:02 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 14:26:02 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
In-Reply-To: <8705E016CFF64A128958B8A55F1D833C@robert9999b7cf>
References: <73594144-B6A8-4257-92AD-A024A06B24A1@sbcglobal.net>
	<8705E016CFF64A128958B8A55F1D833C@robert9999b7cf>
Message-ID: <FBE5AE676AA44F30A0A4D754A7DC076E@Helga>

Hi All, I would like to know this information as well! Also, is the meeting 
wil be recorded as well? And RJ can you write me off list? Something happen 
with the call! Hope to hear from you soon. Thannks and God bless! :)
P.S. And I forgot to ask you all, do you know where at the National 
Convention, do I need to go in order to make an appointment so that I can 
meet with President Maurer? And If I spell his name wrong! I apologize! 
Thanks again! ;)



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students
And member of The International Networkers Team (INT)


Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26


"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16

-----Original Message----- 
From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 2:16 PM
To: Haley Sumnerr ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention

Haley, I'm not eather, and I'd like to know this information as well. Dr. RJ
Sandefur
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Haley Sumnerr via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention


> Hey all,
> I will not be attending convention this year, so where can I go to access 
> the stream tommorrow night during the nabs meeting?
> Thanks,
> Haley sumner
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Helga Schreiber via nabs-l 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All! I would like to meet some of you at Convention as well! In Fact, 
>> Chris I would like to meet you over there! What's your cell phone number 
>> again? I'm just wondering! since I can't find it in my phone in order to 
>> reach you! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks And God bless!! :)
>> P.S. If anyone wants to reach me in order to meet! my cell phone number 
>> is below in my email signature! And if I don't answer, you can text me, 
>> but tell me who you are, and your name! and last name! Thanks again! And 
>> hope to hear from you all! ;)
>>
>> Helga Schreiber
>>
>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>>
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
>> Blind Students
>> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>>
>>
>> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 
>> 3:16
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I'd love to hang out with you sometime this week as well. I'll look you 
>>> up at the front desk.
>>>
>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:12 AM, David Dunphy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the nabs meeting will be streamed and recorded, this way, if the 
>>>> streaam breaks, the meeting can be uploaded. You will get it all, btw, 
>>>> if you're going to convention Shika, look me up.
>>>>> On 6/30/2014 11:37 PM, Shikha via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey david
>>>>> Are you going to record the NABS meeting
>>>>> Shikha.
>>>>>
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  1 19:32:56 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 15:32:56 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS33872BA9D1723BD12D4866CBA070@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS33872BA9D1723BD12D4866CBA070@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D557B6C0656A47A89BA9B68283BA1766@OwnerPC>

hi,
but not everyone has that individual's email address.
I suspect this is why someone posted such a message. Since its not excessive 
and the subject line said what it was, it didn't bother me.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:52 AM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List

Hello All,

I think it is really great that everyone wants to reconnect with old friends
at national convention, and perhaps make a new friend from someone who
subscribes to this email list. However, the purpose of this email list is to
share tips, tricks, and insights on living our lives as blind students. It
should not be used to send personal messages to someone you wish to connect
with at national convention.

If there is a particular individual you wish to meet while attending
national convention, I respectfully ask that you contact them directly
rather than contacting them through the email list. If you use an email
client such as Outlook, this is rather simple to do. When replying to a
message on the email list, simply tab up to the address field, and delete
the email address to the email list. The email address of the person who
sent the message will then be the only email address in the address line,
and your message will be sent to this individual rather than the entire
email list.

And generally, national convention is a rather busy place, so the chances of
the individual you are trying to contact will actually take the time to read
the emails sent to this email list during convention is rather slim. If the
person is registered with the hotel, you could always try contacting their
room by providing the hotel operator with their name. And if all else fails,
you can always look for a fellow blind student at tonight's NABS social or
the NABS business meeting tomorrow night. Both of these events are great
places to meet up with fellow NABS members.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth


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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Tue Jul  1 19:59:56 2014
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 15:59:56 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
In-Reply-To: <D557B6C0656A47A89BA9B68283BA1766@OwnerPC>
References: <COL402-EAS33872BA9D1723BD12D4866CBA070@phx.gbl>
	<D557B6C0656A47A89BA9B68283BA1766@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <53B3133C.3080602@tysdomain.com>

It doesn't take to much for arguments about why this happened to 
overflow the number of personal emails. This is the point I've been 
making a few different times, first with the radio show with more lives 
than a cat and now with "omg guys look someone's on skype can I have 
your skype too?" Asking for an email address creates more spam, but it 
can be taken care of.  Solutions:
Search the archives or just look through your trash. Most email systems 
make this pretty easy.
Send out a message that says "for Tyler," so that everyone else doesn't 
open it, read it then get irritated when it asks if they can contact 
you. This is probably more likely to get said person's attention.

On 7/1/2014 3:32 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote:
> hi,
> but not everyone has that individual's email address.
> I suspect this is why someone posted such a message. Since its not 
> excessive and the subject line said what it was, it didn't bother me.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:52 AM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
>
> Hello All,
>
> I think it is really great that everyone wants to reconnect with old 
> friends
> at national convention, and perhaps make a new friend from someone who
> subscribes to this email list. However, the purpose of this email list 
> is to
> share tips, tricks, and insights on living our lives as blind 
> students. It
> should not be used to send personal messages to someone you wish to 
> connect
> with at national convention.
>
> If there is a particular individual you wish to meet while attending
> national convention, I respectfully ask that you contact them directly
> rather than contacting them through the email list. If you use an email
> client such as Outlook, this is rather simple to do. When replying to a
> message on the email list, simply tab up to the address field, and delete
> the email address to the email list. The email address of the person who
> sent the message will then be the only email address in the address line,
> and your message will be sent to this individual rather than the entire
> email list.
>
> And generally, national convention is a rather busy place, so the 
> chances of
> the individual you are trying to contact will actually take the time 
> to read
> the emails sent to this email list during convention is rather slim. 
> If the
> person is registered with the hotel, you could always try contacting 
> their
> room by providing the hotel operator with their name. And if all else 
> fails,
> you can always look for a fellow blind student at tonight's NABS 
> social or
> the NABS business meeting tomorrow night. Both of these events are great
> places to meet up with fellow NABS members.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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>
>
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-- 
Take care,
Ty
http://tds-solutions.net
He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.



From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 20:13:30 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 16:13:30 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
References: <COL402-EAS33872BA9D1723BD12D4866CBA070@phx.gbl><D557B6C0656A47A89BA9B68283BA1766@OwnerPC>
	<53B3133C.3080602@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <CACE80902A744032BD23EB65BADFAAB7@robert9999b7cf>

I personally do not see an issue with it if you're all attending convention. 
It's always nice to be able to hear someones voice and be like, "Oh you're 
from the nabs list." I think you should allow this, but if the Nabs 
leadership see's an issue with it, then they can adress it. Respectfully, 
Dr. RJ Sandefur
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>; "National Association of 
Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List


> It doesn't take to much for arguments about why this happened to overflow 
> the number of personal emails. This is the point I've been making a few 
> different times, first with the radio show with more lives than a cat and 
> now with "omg guys look someone's on skype can I have your skype too?" 
> Asking for an email address creates more spam, but it can be taken care 
> of.  Solutions:
> Search the archives or just look through your trash. Most email systems 
> make this pretty easy.
> Send out a message that says "for Tyler," so that everyone else doesn't 
> open it, read it then get irritated when it asks if they can contact you. 
> This is probably more likely to get said person's attention.
>
> On 7/1/2014 3:32 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote:
>> hi,
>> but not everyone has that individual's email address.
>> I suspect this is why someone posted such a message. Since its not 
>> excessive and the subject line said what it was, it didn't bother me.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:52 AM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I think it is really great that everyone wants to reconnect with old 
>> friends
>> at national convention, and perhaps make a new friend from someone who
>> subscribes to this email list. However, the purpose of this email list is 
>> to
>> share tips, tricks, and insights on living our lives as blind students. 
>> It
>> should not be used to send personal messages to someone you wish to 
>> connect
>> with at national convention.
>>
>> If there is a particular individual you wish to meet while attending
>> national convention, I respectfully ask that you contact them directly
>> rather than contacting them through the email list. If you use an email
>> client such as Outlook, this is rather simple to do. When replying to a
>> message on the email list, simply tab up to the address field, and delete
>> the email address to the email list. The email address of the person who
>> sent the message will then be the only email address in the address line,
>> and your message will be sent to this individual rather than the entire
>> email list.
>>
>> And generally, national convention is a rather busy place, so the chances 
>> of
>> the individual you are trying to contact will actually take the time to 
>> read
>> the emails sent to this email list during convention is rather slim. If 
>> the
>> person is registered with the hotel, you could always try contacting 
>> their
>> room by providing the hotel operator with their name. And if all else 
>> fails,
>> you can always look for a fellow blind student at tonight's NABS social 
>> or
>> the NABS business meeting tomorrow night. Both of these events are great
>> places to meet up with fellow NABS members.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> nabs-l:
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> nabs-l:
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>
>
> -- 
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he 
> that dares not reason is a slave.
>
>
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From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 20:24:46 2014
From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 16:24:46 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
In-Reply-To: <FBE5AE676AA44F30A0A4D754A7DC076E@Helga>
References: <73594144-B6A8-4257-92AD-A024A06B24A1@sbcglobal.net>
	<8705E016CFF64A128958B8A55F1D833C@robert9999b7cf>
	<FBE5AE676AA44F30A0A4D754A7DC076E@Helga>
Message-ID: <43CC67FE-62F9-42F5-8260-27DC54AC8F8E@gmail.com>

To make an appointment with Dr. Maurer, sign up at the Presidential Suite (2455.) However, he's very busy at convention so you may not want to do that unless you have some kind of important business to take up with him.

Chris Nusbaum

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 1, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Helga  via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All, I would like to know this information as well! Also, is the meeting wil be recorded as well? And RJ can you write me off list? Something happen with the call! Hope to hear from you soon. Thannks and God bless! :)
> P.S. And I forgot to ask you all, do you know where at the National Convention, do I need to go in order to make an appointment so that I can meet with President Maurer? And If I spell his name wrong! I apologize! Thanks again! ;)
> 
> 
> 
> Helga Schreiber
> 
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
> 
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students
> And member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
> 
> 
> Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l
> Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 2:16 PM
> To: Haley Sumnerr ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
> 
> Haley, I'm not eather, and I'd like to know this information as well. Dr. RJ
> Sandefur
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haley Sumnerr via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
> 
> 
>> Hey all,
>> I will not be attending convention this year, so where can I go to access the stream tommorrow night during the nabs meeting?
>> Thanks,
>> Haley sumner
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Helga Schreiber via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All! I would like to meet some of you at Convention as well! In Fact, Chris I would like to meet you over there! What's your cell phone number again? I'm just wondering! since I can't find it in my phone in order to reach you! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks And God bless!! :)
>>> P.S. If anyone wants to reach me in order to meet! my cell phone number is below in my email signature! And if I don't answer, you can text me, but tell me who you are, and your name! and last name! Thanks again! And hope to hear from you all! ;)
>>> 
>>> Helga Schreiber
>>> 
>>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>>> 
>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students
>>> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> David,
>>>> 
>>>> I'd love to hang out with you sometime this week as well. I'll look you up at the front desk.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:12 AM, David Dunphy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, the nabs meeting will be streamed and recorded, this way, if the streaam breaks, the meeting can be uploaded. You will get it all, btw, if you're going to convention Shika, look me up.
>>>>>> On 6/30/2014 11:37 PM, Shikha via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey david
>>>>>> Are you going to record the NABS meeting
>>>>>> Shikha.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/internetradioentertainer%40gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com
>>>> 
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 20:44:37 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 16:44:37 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
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References: <73594144-B6A8-4257-92AD-A024A06B24A1@sbcglobal.net>
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Hey! Chris! What do you mean when you say that the only way to talk to him is if I have some important business to talk to him? Just wondering! And do you know at what time and day is he available to talk? I just would like to meet him and talk to him about something important that will definitely  benefit the blind! and all disabled individuals! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks and God bless! :) 

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT) 


Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jul 1, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Chris Nusbaum <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> To make an appointment with Dr. Maurer, sign up at the Presidential Suite (2455.) However, he's very busy at convention so you may not want to do that unless you have some kind of important business to take up with him.
> 
> Chris Nusbaum
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Helga  via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All, I would like to know this information as well! Also, is the meeting wil be recorded as well? And RJ can you write me off list? Something happen with the call! Hope to hear from you soon. Thannks and God bless! :)
>> P.S. And I forgot to ask you all, do you know where at the National Convention, do I need to go in order to make an appointment so that I can meet with President Maurer? And If I spell his name wrong! I apologize! Thanks again! ;)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Helga Schreiber
>> 
>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>> 
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students
>> And member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>> 
>> 
>> Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>> 
>> 
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 2:16 PM
>> To: Haley Sumnerr ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
>> 
>> Haley, I'm not eather, and I'd like to know this information as well. Dr. RJ
>> Sandefur
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haley Sumnerr via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
>> 
>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> I will not be attending convention this year, so where can I go to access the stream tommorrow night during the nabs meeting?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Haley sumner
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Helga Schreiber via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All! I would like to meet some of you at Convention as well! In Fact, Chris I would like to meet you over there! What's your cell phone number again? I'm just wondering! since I can't find it in my phone in order to reach you! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks And God bless!! :)
>>>> P.S. If anyone wants to reach me in order to meet! my cell phone number is below in my email signature! And if I don't answer, you can text me, but tell me who you are, and your name! and last name! Thanks again! And hope to hear from you all! ;)
>>>> 
>>>> Helga Schreiber
>>>> 
>>>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>>>> 
>>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students
>>>> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> David,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd love to hang out with you sometime this week as well. I'll look you up at the front desk.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:12 AM, David Dunphy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, the nabs meeting will be streamed and recorded, this way, if the streaam breaks, the meeting can be uploaded. You will get it all, btw, if you're going to convention Shika, look me up.
>>>>>>> On 6/30/2014 11:37 PM, Shikha via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey david
>>>>>>> Are you going to record the NABS meeting
>>>>>>> Shikha.
>>>>>>> 
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From matt.dierckens at me.com  Tue Jul  1 20:50:33 2014
From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens)
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 16:50:33 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
In-Reply-To: <CACE80902A744032BD23EB65BADFAAB7@robert9999b7cf>
References: <COL402-EAS33872BA9D1723BD12D4866CBA070@phx.gbl>
	<D557B6C0656A47A89BA9B68283BA1766@OwnerPC>
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Message-ID: <4C8E8036-B23C-4912-A4A8-2943D2268831@me.com>

I think also, if you're on an I device, at least mine, it just says National association of blind students mailing list.So unless they sign their name with an email address, it goes to the list. Thank you mail man for changing that around.

Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 1, 2014, at 4:13 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> I personally do not see an issue with it if you're all attending convention. It's always nice to be able to hear someones voice and be like, "Oh you're from the nabs list." I think you should allow this, but if the Nabs leadership see's an issue with it, then they can adress it. Respectfully, Dr. RJ Sandefur
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>; "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
> 
> 
>> It doesn't take to much for arguments about why this happened to overflow the number of personal emails. This is the point I've been making a few different times, first with the radio show with more lives than a cat and now with "omg guys look someone's on skype can I have your skype too?" Asking for an email address creates more spam, but it can be taken care of.  Solutions:
>> Search the archives or just look through your trash. Most email systems make this pretty easy.
>> Send out a message that says "for Tyler," so that everyone else doesn't open it, read it then get irritated when it asks if they can contact you. This is probably more likely to get said person's attention.
>> 
>> On 7/1/2014 3:32 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> but not everyone has that individual's email address.
>>> I suspect this is why someone posted such a message. Since its not excessive and the subject line said what it was, it didn't bother me.
>>> 
>>> Ashley
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:52 AM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I think it is really great that everyone wants to reconnect with old friends
>>> at national convention, and perhaps make a new friend from someone who
>>> subscribes to this email list. However, the purpose of this email list is to
>>> share tips, tricks, and insights on living our lives as blind students. It
>>> should not be used to send personal messages to someone you wish to connect
>>> with at national convention.
>>> 
>>> If there is a particular individual you wish to meet while attending
>>> national convention, I respectfully ask that you contact them directly
>>> rather than contacting them through the email list. If you use an email
>>> client such as Outlook, this is rather simple to do. When replying to a
>>> message on the email list, simply tab up to the address field, and delete
>>> the email address to the email list. The email address of the person who
>>> sent the message will then be the only email address in the address line,
>>> and your message will be sent to this individual rather than the entire
>>> email list.
>>> 
>>> And generally, national convention is a rather busy place, so the chances of
>>> the individual you are trying to contact will actually take the time to read
>>> the emails sent to this email list during convention is rather slim. If the
>>> person is registered with the hotel, you could always try contacting their
>>> room by providing the hotel operator with their name. And if all else fails,
>>> you can always look for a fellow blind student at tonight's NABS social or
>>> the NABS business meeting tomorrow night. Both of these events are great
>>> places to meet up with fellow NABS members.
>>> 
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Take care,
>> Ty
>> http://tds-solutions.net
>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 21:04:29 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 17:04:29 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
In-Reply-To: <4C8E8036-B23C-4912-A4A8-2943D2268831@me.com>
References: <COL402-EAS33872BA9D1723BD12D4866CBA070@phx.gbl>
	<D557B6C0656A47A89BA9B68283BA1766@OwnerPC>
	<53B3133C.3080602@tysdomain.com>
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	<4C8E8036-B23C-4912-A4A8-2943D2268831@me.com>
Message-ID: <D6FE926E-CDC9-4CE8-8E77-B0E42E6B83B8@gmail.com>

Hi all! Yeah, I agree with Mathiew! Mathew! I also have an IPhone and the only thing it says is National Association of Blind Students. And I think on that way, I'm not able to get an email of someone if I would like to contact them! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks and God bless!! ::) 

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT) 


Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jul 1, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I think also, if you're on an I device, at least mine, it just says National association of blind students mailing list.So unless they sign their name with an email address, it goes to the list. Thank you mail man for changing that around.
> 
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
> 
>> On Jul 1, 2014, at 4:13 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I personally do not see an issue with it if you're all attending convention. It's always nice to be able to hear someones voice and be like, "Oh you're from the nabs list." I think you should allow this, but if the Nabs leadership see's an issue with it, then they can adress it. Respectfully, Dr. RJ Sandefur
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>; "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
>> 
>> 
>>> It doesn't take to much for arguments about why this happened to overflow the number of personal emails. This is the point I've been making a few different times, first with the radio show with more lives than a cat and now with "omg guys look someone's on skype can I have your skype too?" Asking for an email address creates more spam, but it can be taken care of.  Solutions:
>>> Search the archives or just look through your trash. Most email systems make this pretty easy.
>>> Send out a message that says "for Tyler," so that everyone else doesn't open it, read it then get irritated when it asks if they can contact you. This is probably more likely to get said person's attention.
>>> 
>>>> On 7/1/2014 3:32 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote:
>>>> hi,
>>>> but not everyone has that individual's email address.
>>>> I suspect this is why someone posted such a message. Since its not excessive and the subject line said what it was, it didn't bother me.
>>>> 
>>>> Ashley
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:52 AM
>>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> 
>>>> I think it is really great that everyone wants to reconnect with old friends
>>>> at national convention, and perhaps make a new friend from someone who
>>>> subscribes to this email list. However, the purpose of this email list is to
>>>> share tips, tricks, and insights on living our lives as blind students. It
>>>> should not be used to send personal messages to someone you wish to connect
>>>> with at national convention.
>>>> 
>>>> If there is a particular individual you wish to meet while attending
>>>> national convention, I respectfully ask that you contact them directly
>>>> rather than contacting them through the email list. If you use an email
>>>> client such as Outlook, this is rather simple to do. When replying to a
>>>> message on the email list, simply tab up to the address field, and delete
>>>> the email address to the email list. The email address of the person who
>>>> sent the message will then be the only email address in the address line,
>>>> and your message will be sent to this individual rather than the entire
>>>> email list.
>>>> 
>>>> And generally, national convention is a rather busy place, so the chances of
>>>> the individual you are trying to contact will actually take the time to read
>>>> the emails sent to this email list during convention is rather slim. If the
>>>> person is registered with the hotel, you could always try contacting their
>>>> room by providing the hotel operator with their name. And if all else fails,
>>>> you can always look for a fellow blind student at tonight's NABS social or
>>>> the NABS business meeting tomorrow night. Both of these events are great
>>>> places to meet up with fellow NABS members.
>>>> 
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Take care,
>>> Ty
>>> http://tds-solutions.net
>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksandefur%40gmail.com
>> 
>> 
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
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> 
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  1 21:19:40 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 17:19:40 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
In-Reply-To: <CACE80902A744032BD23EB65BADFAAB7@robert9999b7cf>
References: <COL402-EAS33872BA9D1723BD12D4866CBA070@phx.gbl><D557B6C0656A47A89BA9B68283BA1766@OwnerPC>	<53B3133C.3080602@tysdomain.com>
	<CACE80902A744032BD23EB65BADFAAB7@robert9999b7cf>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS12675A260156B33D879523CBA070@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

The NABS leadership has posted two prior emails regarding this issue. Mary
Fernandez posted one as the list moderator, and Darian Smith posted one as
the Second-Vice President. So please do your best to deep the short personal
messages off list. Your cooperation in this manner would be greatly
appreciated.

Unfortunately, I do not know anything about using Apple devices, so I cannot
help you respond to individuals in the same manner as with Outlook. However,
perhaps choosing the respond to all command will show the email address for
the individual who sent the message to the email list. This email list
should not be used for personal contact with other individuals, so please
make use of other forms of communication to find those you wish to meet up
with at national convention.

Again, your cooperation in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Elizabeth
-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur via
nabs-l
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 4:14 PM
To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List

I personally do not see an issue with it if you're all attending convention.

It's always nice to be able to hear someones voice and be like, "Oh you're
from the nabs list." I think you should allow this, but if the Nabs
leadership see's an issue with it, then they can adress it. Respectfully,
Dr. RJ Sandefur
----- Original Message -----
From: "Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>; "National Association of
Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List


> It doesn't take to much for arguments about why this happened to 
> overflow the number of personal emails. This is the point I've been 
> making a few different times, first with the radio show with more 
> lives than a cat and now with "omg guys look someone's on skype can I have
your skype too?"
> Asking for an email address creates more spam, but it can be taken 
> care of.  Solutions:
> Search the archives or just look through your trash. Most email 
> systems make this pretty easy.
> Send out a message that says "for Tyler," so that everyone else 
> doesn't open it, read it then get irritated when it asks if they can
contact you.
> This is probably more likely to get said person's attention.
>
> On 7/1/2014 3:32 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote:
>> hi,
>> but not everyone has that individual's email address.
>> I suspect this is why someone posted such a message. Since its not 
>> excessive and the subject line said what it was, it didn't bother me.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:52 AM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I think it is really great that everyone wants to reconnect with old 
>> friends at national convention, and perhaps make a new friend from 
>> someone who subscribes to this email list. However, the purpose of 
>> this email list is to share tips, tricks, and insights on living our 
>> lives as blind students.
>> It
>> should not be used to send personal messages to someone you wish to 
>> connect with at national convention.
>>
>> If there is a particular individual you wish to meet while attending 
>> national convention, I respectfully ask that you contact them 
>> directly rather than contacting them through the email list. If you 
>> use an email client such as Outlook, this is rather simple to do. 
>> When replying to a message on the email list, simply tab up to the 
>> address field, and delete the email address to the email list. The 
>> email address of the person who sent the message will then be the 
>> only email address in the address line, and your message will be sent 
>> to this individual rather than the entire email list.
>>
>> And generally, national convention is a rather busy place, so the 
>> chances of the individual you are trying to contact will actually 
>> take the time to read the emails sent to this email list during 
>> convention is rather slim. If the person is registered with the 
>> hotel, you could always try contacting their room by providing the 
>> hotel operator with their name. And if all else fails, you can always 
>> look for a fellow blind student at tonight's NABS social or the NABS 
>> business meeting tomorrow night. Both of these events are great 
>> places to meet up with fellow NABS members.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; 
> he that dares not reason is a slave.
>
>
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From mcapelle at charter.net  Tue Jul  1 21:20:28 2014
From: mcapelle at charter.net (Michael Capelle)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 16:20:28 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
In-Reply-To: <4C8E8036-B23C-4912-A4A8-2943D2268831@me.com>
References: <COL402-EAS33872BA9D1723BD12D4866CBA070@phx.gbl><D557B6C0656A47A89BA9B68283BA1766@OwnerPC><53B3133C.3080602@tysdomain.com><CACE80902A744032BD23EB65BADFAAB7@robert9999b7cf>
	<4C8E8036-B23C-4912-A4A8-2943D2268831@me.com>
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this was necessary to deal with because DMARC, as a list owner of over 10 
lists, we had this issue, unfortunately, if we changed it back to the old 
format, yahoo and others would have issues.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:50 PM
To: RJ Sandefur ; National Association Of Blind Students Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List

I think also, if you're on an I device, at least mine, it just says National 
association of blind students mailing list.So unless they sign their name 
with an email address, it goes to the list. Thank you mail man for changing 
that around.

Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 1, 2014, at 4:13 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
wrote:

> I personally do not see an issue with it if you're all attending 
> convention. It's always nice to be able to hear someones voice and be 
> like, "Oh you're from the nabs list." I think you should allow this, but 
> if the Nabs leadership see's an issue with it, then they can adress it. 
> Respectfully, Dr. RJ Sandefur
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>; "National Association 
> of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
>
>
>> It doesn't take to much for arguments about why this happened to overflow 
>> the number of personal emails. This is the point I've been making a few 
>> different times, first with the radio show with more lives than a cat and 
>> now with "omg guys look someone's on skype can I have your skype too?" 
>> Asking for an email address creates more spam, but it can be taken care 
>> of.  Solutions:
>> Search the archives or just look through your trash. Most email systems 
>> make this pretty easy.
>> Send out a message that says "for Tyler," so that everyone else doesn't 
>> open it, read it then get irritated when it asks if they can contact you. 
>> This is probably more likely to get said person's attention.
>>
>> On 7/1/2014 3:32 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> but not everyone has that individual's email address.
>>> I suspect this is why someone posted such a message. Since its not 
>>> excessive and the subject line said what it was, it didn't bother me.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:52 AM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I think it is really great that everyone wants to reconnect with old 
>>> friends
>>> at national convention, and perhaps make a new friend from someone who
>>> subscribes to this email list. However, the purpose of this email list 
>>> is to
>>> share tips, tricks, and insights on living our lives as blind students. 
>>> It
>>> should not be used to send personal messages to someone you wish to 
>>> connect
>>> with at national convention.
>>>
>>> If there is a particular individual you wish to meet while attending
>>> national convention, I respectfully ask that you contact them directly
>>> rather than contacting them through the email list. If you use an email
>>> client such as Outlook, this is rather simple to do. When replying to a
>>> message on the email list, simply tab up to the address field, and 
>>> delete
>>> the email address to the email list. The email address of the person who
>>> sent the message will then be the only email address in the address 
>>> line,
>>> and your message will be sent to this individual rather than the entire
>>> email list.
>>>
>>> And generally, national convention is a rather busy place, so the 
>>> chances of
>>> the individual you are trying to contact will actually take the time to 
>>> read
>>> the emails sent to this email list during convention is rather slim. If 
>>> the
>>> person is registered with the hotel, you could always try contacting 
>>> their
>>> room by providing the hotel operator with their name. And if all else 
>>> fails,
>>> you can always look for a fellow blind student at tonight's NABS social 
>>> or
>>> the NABS business meeting tomorrow night. Both of these events are great
>>> places to meet up with fellow NABS members.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bookwormahb%40earthlink.net
>>>
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>>> nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/tyler%40tysdomain.com
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Take care,
>> Ty
>> http://tds-solutions.net
>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he 
>> that dares not reason is a slave.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
>> nabs-l:
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>
>
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Tue Jul  1 21:45:36 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 17:45:36 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
In-Reply-To: <CAKMC2e7QmhF=O1D7OqtyT=sgaL3Ft5WL19QZEjCX7YVwMPHzrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73594144-B6A8-4257-92AD-A024A06B24A1@sbcglobal.net>	<8705E016CFF64A128958B8A55F1D833C@robert9999b7cf>
	<CAKMC2e7QmhF=O1D7OqtyT=sgaL3Ft5WL19QZEjCX7YVwMPHzrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS3990319FEFFB3E3E1CC92CCBA070@phx.gbl>

Hello James and All,

This is definitely a great link for those who want to listen to the general
sessions of the convention. The NABS business meeting starts tomorrow night
at 7:00 pm eastern time. If you would like to listen to the online stream of
this meeting, I suggest that you look for either an announcement or a link
shortly before the meeting is set to begin. I imagine David will post
information regarding the online stream of the NABS business meeting as it
becomes available.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth



-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Hulme via
nabs-l
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:21 PM
To: RJ Sandefur; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention

follow this link and please click on the player of your choice.


Please stay in touch with David Dunphy as he provides us with the stream of
the NABS meeting.

Convention Stream <http://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule>

Hope that helps.


Jimmy Hulme
jim.hulme at gmail.com


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Haley, I'm not eather, and I'd like to know this information as well. Dr.
> RJ Sandefur
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haley Sumnerr via nabs-l" < 
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National 
> Convention
>
>
>  Hey all,
>> I will not be attending convention this year, so where can I go to 
>> access the stream tommorrow night during the nabs meeting?
>> Thanks,
>> Haley sumner
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>  On Jul 1, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Helga Schreiber via nabs-l <
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All! I would like to meet some of you at Convention as well! In 
>>> Fact, Chris I would like to meet you over there! What's your cell 
>>> phone number again? I'm just wondering! since I can't find it in my 
>>> phone in order to reach you! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks And 
>>> God bless!! :) P.S. If anyone wants to reach me in order to meet! my 
>>> cell phone number is below in my email signature! And if I don't 
>>> answer, you can text me, but tell me who you are, and your name! and 
>>> last name! Thanks again! And hope to hear from you all! ;)
>>>
>>> Helga Schreiber
>>>
>>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>>>
>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association 
>>> of Blind Students
>>> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>>>
>>>
>>> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>>
>>>
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
>>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." 
>>> John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>  On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to hang out with you sometime this week as well. I'll look 
>>>> you up at the front desk.
>>>>
>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>  On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:12 AM, David Dunphy via nabs-l 
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, the nabs meeting will be streamed and recorded, this way, if 
>>>>> the streaam breaks, the meeting can be uploaded. You will get it 
>>>>> all, btw, if you're going to convention Shika, look me up.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/30/2014 11:37 PM, Shikha via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey david
>>>>>> Are you going to record the NABS meeting Shikha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> internetradioentertainer%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>
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From: member at linkedin.com (Richard Atchison via LinkedIn)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 23:17:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [nabs-l] Eric, please add me to your LinkedIn network
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From internetradioentertainer at gmail.com  Wed Jul  2 12:58:35 2014
From: internetradioentertainer at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 08:58:35 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
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	<COL402-EAS3990319FEFFB3E3E1CC92CCBA070@phx.gbl>
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Yes an announcement is comin this afternoon, so look out for it smile
On 7/1/2014 5:45 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
> Hello James and All,
>
> This is definitely a great link for those who want to listen to the general
> sessions of the convention. The NABS business meeting starts tomorrow night
> at 7:00 pm eastern time. If you would like to listen to the online stream of
> this meeting, I suggest that you look for either an announcement or a link
> shortly before the meeting is set to begin. I imagine David will post
> information regarding the online stream of the NABS business meeting as it
> becomes available.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Hulme via
> nabs-l
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 2:21 PM
> To: RJ Sandefur; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National Convention
>
> follow this link and please click on the player of your choice.
>
>
> Please stay in touch with David Dunphy as he provides us with the stream of
> the NABS meeting.
>
> Convention Stream <http://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule>
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
> Jimmy Hulme
> jim.hulme at gmail.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:16 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Haley, I'm not eather, and I'd like to know this information as well. Dr.
>> RJ Sandefur
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haley Sumnerr via nabs-l" <
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 1:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Question About Streaming Times for National
>> Convention
>>
>>
>>   Hey all,
>>> I will not be attending convention this year, so where can I go to
>>> access the stream tommorrow night during the nabs meeting?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Haley sumner
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>   On Jul 1, 2014, at 11:01 AM, Helga Schreiber via nabs-l <
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All! I would like to meet some of you at Convention as well! In
>>>> Fact, Chris I would like to meet you over there! What's your cell
>>>> phone number again? I'm just wondering! since I can't find it in my
>>>> phone in order to reach you! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks And
>>>> God bless!! :) P.S. If anyone wants to reach me in order to meet! my
>>>> cell phone number is below in my email signature! And if I don't
>>>> answer, you can text me, but tell me who you are, and your name! and
>>>> last name! Thanks again! And hope to hear from you all! ;)
>>>>
>>>> Helga Schreiber
>>>>
>>>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>>>>
>>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association
>>>> of Blind Students
>>>> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
>>>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
>>>> John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>   On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> David,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd love to hang out with you sometime this week as well. I'll look
>>>>> you up at the front desk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Jul 1, 2014, at 9:12 AM, David Dunphy via nabs-l
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, the nabs meeting will be streamed and recorded, this way, if
>>>>>> the streaam breaks, the meeting can be uploaded. You will get it
>>>>>> all, btw, if you're going to convention Shika, look me up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/30/2014 11:37 PM, Shikha via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey david
>>>>>>> Are you going to record the NABS meeting Shikha.
>>>>>>>
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From ligne14 at verizon.net  Wed Jul  2 13:21:14 2014
From: ligne14 at verizon.net (sami osborne)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 09:21:14 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List
Message-ID: <0N830007E6G1JXA0@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net>

Helga, Matt and all,

I believe you can find someone's email address by going 
nfbnet'org, find the NABS list, going to the archives, and then 
either searching for the different threads for the month by 
searching by either date, thread, subject or author.  The 
person's email should be right under his or her name when the 
posts to the list are displayed in the archives, at least for me.

And yes, Michael is right, the email address is no longer 
displayed in my personal email either.  Personally on my Apex, it 
says that it is from someone via NABSL.  But as I said, finding 
the email address of someone  you want to contact should not be 
an issue.

Thanks,

Sami.


 ----- Original Message -----
From: Helga Schreiber via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: Matthew Dierckens <matt.dierckens at me.com>,National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 01 Jul 2014 17:04:29 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List

Hi all! Yeah, I agree with Mathiew! Mathew! I also have an IPhone 
and the only thing it says is National Association of Blind 
Students.  And I think on that way, I'm not able to get an email 
of someone if I would like to contact them! Hope to hear from you 
soon! Thanks and God bless!! ::)

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota 
chapter

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida 
Association of Blind Students
And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)


Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26


"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, 
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal 
life." John 3:16
Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 1, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 I think also, if you're on an I device, at least mine, it just 
says National association of blind students mailing list.So 
unless they sign their name with an email address, it goes to the 
list.  Thank you mail man for changing that around.

 Matthew Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
 Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover 
course available now.  Spots are limited, sign up here
 http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

 On Jul 1, 2014, at 4:13 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 I personally do not see an issue with it if you're all attending 
convention.  It's always nice to be able to hear someones voice 
and be like, "Oh you're from the nabs list." I think you should 
allow this, but if the Nabs leadership see's an issue with it, 
then they can adress it.  Respectfully, Dr.  RJ Sandefur
 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Littlefield, Tyler via 
nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 To: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>; "National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 3:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List


 It doesn't take to much for arguments about why this happened to 
overflow the number of personal emails.  This is the point I've 
been making a few different times, first with the radio show with 
more lives than a cat and now with "omg guys look someone's on 
skype can I have your skype too?" Asking for an email address 
creates more spam, but it can be taken care of.  Solutions:
 Search the archives or just look through your trash.  Most email 
systems make this pretty easy.
 Send out a message that says "for Tyler," so that everyone else 
doesn't open it, read it then get irritated when it asks if they 
can contact you.  This is probably more likely to get said 
person's attention.

 On 7/1/2014 3:32 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote:
 hi,
 but not everyone has that individual's email address.
 I suspect this is why someone posted such a message.  Since its 
not excessive and the subject line said what it was, it didn't 
bother me.

 Ashley

 -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 11:52 AM
 To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
 Subject: [nabs-l] Personal Emails on the Email List

 Hello All,

 I think it is really great that everyone wants to reconnect with 
old friends
 at national convention, and perhaps make a new friend from 
someone who
 subscribes to this email list.  However, the purpose of this 
email list is to
 share tips, tricks, and insights on living our lives as blind 
students.  It
 should not be used to send personal messages to someone you wish 
to connect
 with at national convention.

 If there is a particular individual you wish to meet while 
attending
 national convention, I respectfully ask that you contact them 
directly
 rather than contacting them through the email list.  If you use 
an email
 client such as Outlook, this is rather simple to do.  When 
replying to a
 message on the email list, simply tab up to the address field, 
and delete
 the email address to the email list.  The email address of the 
person who
 sent the message will then be the only email address in the 
address line,
 and your message will be sent to this individual rather than the 
entire
 email list.

 And generally, national convention is a rather busy place, so 
the chances of
 the individual you are trying to contact will actually take the 
time to read
 the emails sent to this email list during convention is rather 
slim.  If the
 person is registered with the hotel, you could always try 
contacting their
 room by providing the hotel operator with their name.  And if 
all else fails,
 you can always look for a fellow blind student at tonight's NABS 
social or
 the NABS business meeting tomorrow night.  Both of these events 
are great
 places to meet up with fellow NABS members.

 Warm regards,
 Elizabeth


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From matt.dierckens at me.com  Wed Jul  2 14:50:49 2014
From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 10:50:49 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] 2014 NFB HeyTell Public relay
Message-ID: <D879AE31-9623-4EE2-9C20-702E1CCED28E@me.com>

Hi all.
I thought I would let you all know that the NFB 2014 HeyTell public relay is active.
To join, go to www.heytell.com/nfb on your phone.
There will be a "Join the group" option, double tap.
HeyTell will open asking to confirm your location. Choose yes.
You will be added into the group. The nice feature is that you don't have to be in Orlando to join the group.
Hope to see you there. :)

Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/


From robin-melvin at comcast.net  Wed Jul  2 21:06:13 2014
From: robin-melvin at comcast.net (Robin)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 14:06:13 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Mobile: Microsoft WindowsPhone
In-Reply-To: <B52F5162-430E-4D90-83D8-821CF345E35E@gmail.com>
References: <8484CF2F-B975-4C3D-ACFA-2E577B57BFE6@gmail.com>
	<F42A21C70ED04392B4AD584A87FB60A6@OwnerPC>
	<B52F5162-430E-4D90-83D8-821CF345E35E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20140702140011.05248c20@comcast.net>

Does anyone know whether Microsoft will be demonstrating at This 
Year's NFB 2014 National convention? I hear through the grapevine 
that Microsoft will be demonstrating at This year's ACB 2014 National 
Convention, and I am wondering whether or not they will be at the 
NFB's Convention as well .

I am very much intrested in the Demonstrations of Microsoft 
Accessibility as it pertains to Narrator on Windows 8.1 & WindowsPhone 8.1.

Is there anyone else on this list interested? Just Curious. 



From rloew at ETS.ORG  Wed Jul  2 21:45:51 2014
From: rloew at ETS.ORG (Loew, Ruth C)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 21:45:51 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] ETS at Convention
Message-ID: <1404337512628.18600@ETS.ORG>

Hi -- As many of you know, I lurk on this list and post occasionally. As usual, I'm at Convention this year and would be happy to meet with anyone here who has a question about ETS tests (GRE, TOEFL, Praxis, TExES, GACE, and HiSET) or accommodations. My cell phone # is 215-527-7442. I'm staying through Monday morning.
Enjoy Convention!

Ruth Loew
Assistant Director
Office of Disability Policy
ETS
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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Wed Jul  2 22:57:19 2014
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 18:57:19 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
Message-ID: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com>

Hey all,
I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing 
the time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced a 
tunein link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know if I 
missed anything.

-- 
Take care,
Ty
http://tds-solutions.net
He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.



From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Wed Jul  2 23:01:25 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:01:25 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS146CEC8BB3CB2AB2AA1A6CBA060@phx.gbl>

Hi Tyler,

I saw a link was posted on Twitter a while ago, but whenever I click on it,
all I get are the microphone tests. I sent a private email to David about
this, and I have not heard anything back from him yet. The meeting is set to
begin at 7:00 pm eastern time, and I was going to check the link again to
see if it works. It I thought it would be best to only post something if the
link is indeed working.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
Tyler via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast

Hey all,
I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing the
time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced a tunein
link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know if I missed
anything.

--
Take care,
Ty
http://tds-solutions.net
He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that
dares not reason is a slave.


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From jsoro620 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  2 23:05:43 2014
From: jsoro620 at gmail.com (Joe)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:05:43 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS146CEC8BB3CB2AB2AA1A6CBA060@phx.gbl>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com>
	<COL402-EAS146CEC8BB3CB2AB2AA1A6CBA060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00b401cf964a$26e23920$74a6ab60$@gmail.com>

Here it is, playing now:

http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-for-nfb14
?autoplay=1

--
Twitter: @ScribblingJoe

Visit my blog:
http://joeorozco.com/blog

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
Mohnke via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:01 PM
To: tyler at tysdomain.com; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing
list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast

Hi Tyler,

I saw a link was posted on Twitter a while ago, but whenever I click on it,
all I get are the microphone tests. I sent a private email to David about
this, and I have not heard anything back from him yet. The meeting is set to
begin at 7:00 pm eastern time, and I was going to check the link again to
see if it works. It I thought it would be best to only post something if the
link is indeed working.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
Tyler via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast

Hey all,
I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing the
time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced a tunein
link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know if I missed
anything.

--
Take care,
Ty
http://tds-solutions.net
He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that
dares not reason is a slave.


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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Wed Jul  2 23:06:26 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:06:26 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS2679335ECDC10F2C2FC3A2BBA060@phx.gbl>

Hi Tyler and All,

The link to listen to the NABS business meeting is:
http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo
r-nfb14?autoplay=1

Hoep you enjoy listening to the meeting. Thanks to all who made this
possible.

Warm Regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
Tyler via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast

Hey all,
I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing the
time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced a tunein
link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know if I missed
anything.

--
Take care,
Ty
http://tds-solutions.net
He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that
dares not reason is a slave.


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From haleysumner at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul  2 23:20:01 2014
From: haleysumner at sbcglobal.net (Haley sumner)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:20:01 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS2679335ECDC10F2C2FC3A2BBA060@phx.gbl>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com>
	<COL402-EAS2679335ECDC10F2C2FC3A2BBA060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <19139C68-32A7-456E-B415-5325FEDFC446@sbcglobal.net>

I just tried that link, and couldn't get it to work either... Help???!!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tyler and All,
> 
> The link to listen to the NABS business meeting is:
> http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo
> r-nfb14?autoplay=1
> 
> Hoep you enjoy listening to the meeting. Thanks to all who made this
> possible.
> 
> Warm Regards,
> Elizabeth
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
> Tyler via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
> 
> Hey all,
> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing the
> time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced a tunein
> link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know if I missed
> anything.
> 
> --
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that
> dares not reason is a slave.
> 
> 
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Wed Jul  2 23:23:41 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:23:41 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com><COL402-EAS146CEC8BB3CB2AB2AA1A6CBA060@phx.gbl>
	<00b401cf964a$26e23920$74a6ab60$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86D0E795A7D940C1A2DEE1E57C74EEDD@robert9999b7cf>

It's not playing. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Elizabeth Mohnke'" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>; "'National Association of 
Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast


> Here it is, playing now:
>
> http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-for-nfb14
> ?autoplay=1
>
> --
> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>
> Visit my blog:
> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
> Mohnke via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:01 PM
> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing
> list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> Hi Tyler,
>
> I saw a link was posted on Twitter a while ago, but whenever I click on 
> it,
> all I get are the microphone tests. I sent a private email to David about
> this, and I have not heard anything back from him yet. The meeting is set 
> to
> begin at 7:00 pm eastern time, and I was going to check the link again to
> see if it works. It I thought it would be best to only post something if 
> the
> link is indeed working.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
> Tyler via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> Hey all,
> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing the
> time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced a 
> tunein
> link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know if I missed
> anything.
>
> --
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he 
> that
> dares not reason is a slave.
>
>
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From mcapelle at charter.net  Wed Jul  2 23:24:43 2014
From: mcapelle at charter.net (Michael Capelle)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:24:43 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <19139C68-32A7-456E-B415-5325FEDFC446@sbcglobal.net>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com><COL402-EAS2679335ECDC10F2C2FC3A2BBA060@phx.gbl>
	<19139C68-32A7-456E-B415-5325FEDFC446@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <24AA3AC1A6984604886B88BA32595975@MikePC>

Same here.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Haley sumner via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:20 PM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast

I just tried that link, and couldn't get it to work either... Help???!!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Tyler and All,
>
> The link to listen to the NABS business meeting is:
> http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo
> r-nfb14?autoplay=1
>
> Hoep you enjoy listening to the meeting. Thanks to all who made this
> possible.
>
> Warm Regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
> Tyler via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> Hey all,
> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing the
> time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced a 
> tunein
> link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know if I missed
> anything.
>
> --
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he 
> that
> dares not reason is a slave.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From ryan.bishop96 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  2 23:25:52 2014
From: ryan.bishop96 at gmail.com (Ryan Bishop)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:25:52 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <86D0E795A7D940C1A2DEE1E57C74EEDD@robert9999b7cf>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com><COL402-EAS146CEC8BB3CB2AB2AA1A6CBA060@phx.gbl>	<00b401cf964a$26e23920$74a6ab60$@gmail.com>
	<86D0E795A7D940C1A2DEE1E57C74EEDD@robert9999b7cf>
Message-ID: <003501cf964c$f7ccd1b0$e7667510$@gmail.com>

Try this
http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo
r-nfb14?autoplay=1

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur via
nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:24 PM
To: jsoro620 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast

It's not playing. RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Elizabeth Mohnke'" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>; "'National Association of
Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast


> Here it is, playing now:
>
> http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-for
> -nfb14
> ?autoplay=1
>
> --
> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>
> Visit my blog:
> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth 
> Mohnke via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:01 PM
> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; 'National Association of Blind Students 
> mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> Hi Tyler,
>
> I saw a link was posted on Twitter a while ago, but whenever I click 
> on it, all I get are the microphone tests. I sent a private email to 
> David about this, and I have not heard anything back from him yet. The 
> meeting is set to begin at 7:00 pm eastern time, and I was going to 
> check the link again to see if it works. It I thought it would be best 
> to only post something if the link is indeed working.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> Hey all,
> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing 
> the time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced 
> a tunein link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know 
> if I missed anything.
>
> --
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; 
> he that dares not reason is a slave.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From mcapelle at charter.net  Wed Jul  2 23:28:22 2014
From: mcapelle at charter.net (Michael Capelle)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:28:22 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <003501cf964c$f7ccd1b0$e7667510$@gmail.com>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com><COL402-EAS146CEC8BB3CB2AB2AA1A6CBA060@phx.gbl>	<00b401cf964a$26e23920$74a6ab60$@gmail.com><86D0E795A7D940C1A2DEE1E57C74EEDD@robert9999b7cf>
	<003501cf964c$f7ccd1b0$e7667510$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CCABA043A5D04737BC7B90866CCCA52C@MikePC>

hello, this also is not working what so ever.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ryan Bishop via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:25 PM
To: 'RJ Sandefur' ; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast

Try this
http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo
r-nfb14?autoplay=1

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur via
nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:24 PM
To: jsoro620 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast

It's not playing. RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Elizabeth Mohnke'" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>; "'National Association of
Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast


> Here it is, playing now:
>
> http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-for
> -nfb14
> ?autoplay=1
>
> --
> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>
> Visit my blog:
> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
> Mohnke via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:01 PM
> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; 'National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> Hi Tyler,
>
> I saw a link was posted on Twitter a while ago, but whenever I click
> on it, all I get are the microphone tests. I sent a private email to
> David about this, and I have not heard anything back from him yet. The
> meeting is set to begin at 7:00 pm eastern time, and I was going to
> check the link again to see if it works. It I thought it would be best
> to only post something if the link is indeed working.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> Hey all,
> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing
> the time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced
> a tunein link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know
> if I missed anything.
>
> --
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool;
> he that dares not reason is a slave.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
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From matt.dierckens at me.com  Wed Jul  2 23:28:25 2014
From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:28:25 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS2679335ECDC10F2C2FC3A2BBA060@phx.gbl>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com>
	<COL402-EAS2679335ECDC10F2C2FC3A2BBA060@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AD78E76A-815F-4477-9CA9-2CFC7B3ED450@me.com>

Neither of those links work. I get a page not found.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi Tyler and All,
> 
> The link to listen to the NABS business meeting is:
> http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo
> r-nfb14?autoplay=1
> 
> Hoep you enjoy listening to the meeting. Thanks to all who made this
> possible.
> 
> Warm Regards,
> Elizabeth
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
> Tyler via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
> 
> Hey all,
> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing the
> time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced a tunein
> link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know if I missed
> anything.
> 
> --
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that
> dares not reason is a slave.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From mcapelle at charter.net  Wed Jul  2 23:30:13 2014
From: mcapelle at charter.net (Michael Capelle)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:30:13 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <AD78E76A-815F-4477-9CA9-2CFC7B3ED450@me.com>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com><COL402-EAS2679335ECDC10F2C2FC3A2BBA060@phx.gbl>
	<AD78E76A-815F-4477-9CA9-2CFC7B3ED450@me.com>
Message-ID: <9C0DB504EEF04CFF9FF2863F8257EE27@MikePC>

I even tryed to post this link into winamp, and no go.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:28 PM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast

Neither of those links work. I get a page not found.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
wrote:

> Hi Tyler and All,
>
> The link to listen to the NABS business meeting is:
> http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo
> r-nfb14?autoplay=1
>
> Hoep you enjoy listening to the meeting. Thanks to all who made this
> possible.
>
> Warm Regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
> Tyler via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> Hey all,
> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing the
> time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced a 
> tunein
> link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know if I missed
> anything.
>
> --
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he 
> that
> dares not reason is a slave.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Wed Jul  2 23:34:24 2014
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:34:24 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <CCABA043A5D04737BC7B90866CCCA52C@MikePC>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com><COL402-EAS146CEC8BB3CB2AB2AA1A6CBA060@phx.gbl>	<00b401cf964a$26e23920$74a6ab60$@gmail.com><86D0E795A7D940C1A2DEE1E57C74EEDD@robert9999b7cf>	<003501cf964c$f7ccd1b0$e7667510$@gmail.com>
	<CCABA043A5D04737BC7B90866CCCA52C@MikePC>
Message-ID: <53B49700.8040907@tysdomain.com>

I think the problem is that it's wrapping. try this:
http://bit.ly/TPXgGh
HTH,
On 7/2/2014 7:28 PM, Michael Capelle via nabs-l wrote:
> hello, this also is not working what so ever.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Bishop via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:25 PM
> To: 'RJ Sandefur' ; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> Try this
> http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo 
>
> r-nfb14?autoplay=1
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ 
> Sandefur via
> nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:24 PM
> To: jsoro620 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing 
> list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> It's not playing. RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Elizabeth Mohnke'" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>; "'National 
> Association of
> Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
>
>> Here it is, playing now:
>>
>> http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-for
>> -nfb14
>> ?autoplay=1
>>
>> -- 
>> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>>
>> Visit my blog:
>> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
>> Mohnke via nabs-l
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:01 PM
>> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; 'National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>
>> Hi Tyler,
>>
>> I saw a link was posted on Twitter a while ago, but whenever I click
>> on it, all I get are the microphone tests. I sent a private email to
>> David about this, and I have not heard anything back from him yet. The
>> meeting is set to begin at 7:00 pm eastern time, and I was going to
>> check the link again to see if it works. It I thought it would be best
>> to only post something if the link is indeed working.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>
>> Hey all,
>> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing
>> the time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced
>> a tunein link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know
>> if I missed anything.
>>
>> -- 
>> Take care,
>> Ty
>> http://tds-solutions.net
>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool;
>> he that dares not reason is a slave.
>>
>>
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He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.



From tyler at tysdomain.com  Wed Jul  2 23:34:59 2014
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:34:59 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <9C0DB504EEF04CFF9FF2863F8257EE27@MikePC>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com><COL402-EAS2679335ECDC10F2C2FC3A2BBA060@phx.gbl>	<AD78E76A-815F-4477-9CA9-2CFC7B3ED450@me.com>
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It doesn't work in winamp. You have to use a browser. I used Chrome, I 
think Minh used Firefox.
On 7/2/2014 7:30 PM, Michael Capelle via nabs-l wrote:
> I even tryed to post this link into winamp, and no go.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:28 PM
> To: Elizabeth Mohnke ; National Association of Blind Students mailing 
> list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> Neither of those links work. I get a page not found.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>
> On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tyler and All,
>>
>> The link to listen to the NABS business meeting is:
>> http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo 
>>
>> r-nfb14?autoplay=1
>>
>> Hoep you enjoy listening to the meeting. Thanks to all who made this
>> possible.
>>
>> Warm Regards,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Littlefield,
>> Tyler via nabs-l
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>
>> Hey all,
>> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing 
>> the
>> time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced a 
>> tunein
>> link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know if I missed
>> anything.
>>
>> -- 
>> Take care,
>> Ty
>> http://tds-solutions.net
>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; 
>> he that
>> dares not reason is a slave.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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-- 
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Ty
http://tds-solutions.net
He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.



From matt.dierckens at me.com  Wed Jul  2 23:37:53 2014
From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens)
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:37:53 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <53B49723.6080006@tysdomain.com>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com>
	<COL402-EAS2679335ECDC10F2C2FC3A2BBA060@phx.gbl>
	<AD78E76A-815F-4477-9CA9-2CFC7B3ED450@me.com>
	<9C0DB504EEF04CFF9FF2863F8257EE27@MikePC>
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well it didn't work in safari. I'll try in chrome, thanks Tyler.

Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> It doesn't work in winamp. You have to use a browser. I used Chrome, I think Minh used Firefox.
> On 7/2/2014 7:30 PM, Michael Capelle via nabs-l wrote:
>> I even tryed to post this link into winamp, and no go.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:28 PM
>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>> 
>> Neither of those links work. I get a page not found.
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>> 
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Tyler and All,
>>> 
>>> The link to listen to the NABS business meeting is:
>>> http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo 
>>> r-nfb14?autoplay=1
>>> 
>>> Hoep you enjoy listening to the meeting. Thanks to all who made this
>>> possible.
>>> 
>>> Warm Regards,
>>> Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
>>> Tyler via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing the
>>> time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced a tunein
>>> link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know if I missed
>>> anything.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Take care,
>>> Ty
>>> http://tds-solutions.net
>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that
>>> dares not reason is a slave.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Take care,
> Ty
> http://tds-solutions.net
> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.
> 
> 
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From minh.ha927 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  2 23:41:31 2014
From: minh.ha927 at gmail.com (minh ha)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:41:31 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <4AD3FA76-A9A8-4EB0-97DE-0BA8AA85031A@me.com>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com>
	<COL402-EAS2679335ECDC10F2C2FC3A2BBA060@phx.gbl>
	<AD78E76A-815F-4477-9CA9-2CFC7B3ED450@me.com>
	<9C0DB504EEF04CFF9FF2863F8257EE27@MikePC>
	<53B49723.6080006@tysdomain.com>
	<4AD3FA76-A9A8-4EB0-97DE-0BA8AA85031A@me.com>
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yeah, firefox worked with the link.

On 7/2/14, Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> well it didn't work in safari. I'll try in chrome, thanks Tyler.
>
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>
> On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> It doesn't work in winamp. You have to use a browser. I used Chrome, I
>> think Minh used Firefox.
>> On 7/2/2014 7:30 PM, Michael Capelle via nabs-l wrote:
>>> I even tryed to post this link into winamp, and no go.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:28 PM
>>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke ; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>>
>>> Neither of those links work. I get a page not found.
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>>
>>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Tyler and All,
>>>>
>>>> The link to listen to the NABS business meeting is:
>>>> http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo
>>>>
>>>> r-nfb14?autoplay=1
>>>>
>>>> Hoep you enjoy listening to the meeting. Thanks to all who made this
>>>> possible.
>>>>
>>>> Warm Regards,
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Littlefield,
>>>> Tyler via nabs-l
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing
>>>> the
>>>> time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced a
>>>> tunein
>>>> link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know if I
>>>> missed
>>>> anything.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Take care,
>>>> Ty
>>>> http://tds-solutions.net
>>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he
>>>> that
>>>> dares not reason is a slave.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> nabs-l:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lizmohnke%40hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Take care,
>> Ty
>> http://tds-solutions.net
>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he
>> that dares not reason is a slave.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From mcapelle at charter.net  Wed Jul  2 23:44:21 2014
From: mcapelle at charter.net (Michael Capelle)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:44:21 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <53B49700.8040907@tysdomain.com>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com><COL402-EAS146CEC8BB3CB2AB2AA1A6CBA060@phx.gbl>	<00b401cf964a$26e23920$74a6ab60$@gmail.com><86D0E795A7D940C1A2DEE1E57C74EEDD@robert9999b7cf>	<003501cf964c$f7ccd1b0$e7667510$@gmail.com>
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	<53B49700.8040907@tysdomain.com>
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Tyler, you are awesome, it is working in IE 11.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Littlefield, Tyler
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:34 PM
To: Michael Capelle ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast

I think the problem is that it's wrapping. try this:
http://bit.ly/TPXgGh
HTH,
On 7/2/2014 7:28 PM, Michael Capelle via nabs-l wrote:
> hello, this also is not working what so ever.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Bishop via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:25 PM
> To: 'RJ Sandefur' ; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> Try this
> http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo
> r-nfb14?autoplay=1
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur 
> via
> nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:24 PM
> To: jsoro620 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing 
> list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> It's not playing. RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Elizabeth Mohnke'" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>; "'National Association 
> of
> Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
>
>> Here it is, playing now:
>>
>> http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-for
>> -nfb14
>> ?autoplay=1
>>
>> -- 
>> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>>
>> Visit my blog:
>> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
>> Mohnke via nabs-l
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:01 PM
>> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; 'National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>
>> Hi Tyler,
>>
>> I saw a link was posted on Twitter a while ago, but whenever I click
>> on it, all I get are the microphone tests. I sent a private email to
>> David about this, and I have not heard anything back from him yet. The
>> meeting is set to begin at 7:00 pm eastern time, and I was going to
>> check the link again to see if it works. It I thought it would be best
>> to only post something if the link is indeed working.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>
>> Hey all,
>> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing
>> the time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced
>> a tunein link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know
>> if I missed anything.
>>
>> -- 
>> Take care,
>> Ty
>> http://tds-solutions.net
>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool;
>> he that dares not reason is a slave.
>>
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Wed Jul  2 23:48:44 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:48:44 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <CAAJqG9goxrwh=vrKbu9A4qdtP2ZkDvfCXm9bVPdX5g4fHO2=4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com>	<COL402-EAS2679335ECDC10F2C2FC3A2BBA060@phx.gbl>	<AD78E76A-815F-4477-9CA9-2CFC7B3ED450@me.com>	<9C0DB504EEF04CFF9FF2863F8257EE27@MikePC>	<53B49723.6080006@tysdomain.com>	<4AD3FA76-A9A8-4EB0-97DE-0BA8AA85031A@me.com>
	<CAAJqG9goxrwh=vrKbu9A4qdtP2ZkDvfCXm9bVPdX5g4fHO2=4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS1276EAD5708001DD5925DF7BA060@phx.gbl>

I clicked on the link from Davids Twitter page. It opened up and played
automatically with Internet Explorer. If you cannot get the lick to work
from the email list, perhaps you could try going to David's Twitter page at
www.twitter.com/ CrazyYetFun2014. 

Warm regards,
Elizabeth


-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of minh ha via
nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:42 PM
To: Matthew Dierckens; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast

yeah, firefox worked with the link.

On 7/2/14, Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> well it didn't work in safari. I'll try in chrome, thanks Tyler.
>
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here 
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>
> On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> It doesn't work in winamp. You have to use a browser. I used Chrome, 
>> I think Minh used Firefox.
>> On 7/2/2014 7:30 PM, Michael Capelle via nabs-l wrote:
>>> I even tryed to post this link into winamp, and no go.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:28 PM
>>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke ; National Association of Blind Students 
>>> mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>>
>>> Neither of those links work. I get a page not found.
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here 
>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>>
>>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Tyler and All,
>>>>
>>>> The link to listen to the NABS business meeting is:
>>>> http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-m
>>>> eeting-fo
>>>>
>>>> r-nfb14?autoplay=1
>>>>
>>>> Hoep you enjoy listening to the meeting. Thanks to all who made 
>>>> this possible.
>>>>
>>>> Warm Regards,
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>> Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember 
>>>> seeing the time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone 
>>>> announced a tunein link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but 
>>>> I don't know if I missed anything.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Take care,
>>>> Ty
>>>> http://tds-solutions.net
>>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a 
>>>> fool; he that dares not reason is a slave.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>> --
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>> Ty
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>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; 
>> he that dares not reason is a slave.
>>
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  3 00:51:26 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 20:51:26 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <53B49700.8040907@tysdomain.com>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com><COL402-EAS146CEC8BB3CB2AB2AA1A6CBA060@phx.gbl>	<00b401cf964a$26e23920$74a6ab60$@gmail.com><86D0E795A7D940C1A2DEE1E57C74EEDD@robert9999b7cf>	<003501cf964c$f7ccd1b0$e7667510$@gmail.com><CCABA043A5D04737BC7B90866CCCA52C@MikePC>
	<53B49700.8040907@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <5DA287816758466F9E73E8D6BB366E5F@OwnerPC>

thanks, this works in internet explorer! also very good sound quality.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:34 PM
To: Michael Capelle ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast

I think the problem is that it's wrapping. try this:
http://bit.ly/TPXgGh
HTH,
On 7/2/2014 7:28 PM, Michael Capelle via nabs-l wrote:
> hello, this also is not working what so ever.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Bishop via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:25 PM
> To: 'RJ Sandefur' ; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> Try this
> http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo
> r-nfb14?autoplay=1
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur 
> via
> nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:24 PM
> To: jsoro620 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing 
> list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> It's not playing. RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Elizabeth Mohnke'" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>; "'National Association 
> of
> Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
>
>> Here it is, playing now:
>>
>> http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-for
>> -nfb14
>> ?autoplay=1
>>
>> -- 
>> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>>
>> Visit my blog:
>> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
>> Mohnke via nabs-l
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:01 PM
>> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; 'National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>
>> Hi Tyler,
>>
>> I saw a link was posted on Twitter a while ago, but whenever I click
>> on it, all I get are the microphone tests. I sent a private email to
>> David about this, and I have not heard anything back from him yet. The
>> meeting is set to begin at 7:00 pm eastern time, and I was going to
>> check the link again to see if it works. It I thought it would be best
>> to only post something if the link is indeed working.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>
>> Hey all,
>> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing
>> the time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced
>> a tunein link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know
>> if I missed anything.
>>
>> -- 
>> Take care,
>> Ty
>> http://tds-solutions.net
>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool;
>> he that dares not reason is a slave.
>>
>>
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  3 13:23:02 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 09:23:02 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else experiencing this
issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the online
stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if anyone else
was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve
this issue.

Thanks,
Elizabeth


From amc05111 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 13:25:28 2014
From: amc05111 at gmail.com (Ashley and Landon Coleman)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 09:25:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <53B559C8.1000102@gmail.com>

Elizabeth, what program are you trying to listen in with?
Ashley
On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
> meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
> stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else experiencing this
> issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the online
> stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if anyone else
> was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve
> this issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>
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From ryan.bishop96 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 13:26:13 2014
From: ryan.bishop96 at gmail.com (Ryan Bishop)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 06:26:13 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <006601cf96c2$5d5a1400$180e3c00$@gmail.com>

Hi,
Put this link directly into the media player of your choice:
http://nfbstreaming.serverroom.net:6894
Thanks,
Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
Mohnke via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 6:23 AM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'; 'NFB of Michigan
Internet Mailing List'
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Hello All,

Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else experiencing this
issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the online
stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if anyone else
was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve
this issue.

Thanks,
Elizabeth

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From amc05111 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 13:30:09 2014
From: amc05111 at gmail.com (Ashley and Landon Coleman)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 09:30:09 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>

Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct link 
for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.

https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule



On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
> meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
> stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else experiencing this
> issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the online
> stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if anyone else
> was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve
> this issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>
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From matt.dierckens at me.com  Thu Jul  3 14:08:40 2014
From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:08:40 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>

Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and in iTunes, and they're all dead.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct link for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
> 
> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
>> meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
>> stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else experiencing this
>> issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the online
>> stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if anyone else
>> was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve
>> this issue.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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From amc05111 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 14:12:41 2014
From: amc05111 at gmail.com (Ashley and Landon Coleman)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:12:41 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>
	<8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
Message-ID: <53B564D9.1080201@gmail.com>

The stream keeps breaking in and out. Keep trying. That's what I'm 
having to do.
Ashley


On 7/3/2014 10:08 AM, Matthew Dierckens wrote:
> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and 
> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com <http://www.blindaccesstraining.com>
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>
> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org <mailto:nabs-l at nfbnet.org>> wrote:
>
>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct 
>> link for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>
>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
>>> meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
>>> stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else 
>>> experiencing this
>>> issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with 
>>> the online
>>> stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if 
>>> anyone else
>>> was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could 
>>> resolve
>>> this issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.com
>>
>> -- 
>> Thank you
>> Ashley Coleman
>>
>> Blinkie Chicks
>> Social Media Manager
>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nabs-l:
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>

-- 
Thank you
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Blinkie Chicks
Social Media Manager
http://www.blinkiechicks.com/


From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 14:13:55 2014
From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:13:55 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>
	<8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
Message-ID: <1B9F166C-A3CA-4518-A95E-6E76A7F1F4C2@gmail.com>

We have very spotty wifi here, so it is likely that the stream is going out when we lose our Internet connection.

Chris Nusbaum

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and in iTunes, and they're all dead.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
> 
>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct link for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>> 
>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
>>> meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
>>> stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else experiencing this
>>> issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the online
>>> stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if anyone else
>>> was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve
>>> this issue.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.com
>> 
>> -- 
>> Thank you
>> Ashley Coleman
>> 
>> Blinkie Chicks
>> Social Media Manager
>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matt.dierckens%40me.com
> 
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  3 14:21:57 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:21:57 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>
	<8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl>

Hi Mathew,

I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out I was
trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed. However, this
was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to reconnect to the
stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that it cannot open the file.
Not sure what is going on though.

Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
Dierckens via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and in
iTunes, and they're all dead.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct link
for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
> 
> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of 
>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to 
>> the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else 
>> experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information for any 
>> problems with the online stream, so thought I would post this on the 
>> email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this problem, and 
>> perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
nabs-l:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.
>> com
> 
> --
> Thank you
> Ashley Coleman
> 
> Blinkie Chicks
> Social Media Manager
> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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> e.com

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From amc05111 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 14:26:02 2014
From: amc05111 at gmail.com (Ashley and Landon Coleman)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:26:02 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>	<8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
	<COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <53B567FA.3070304@gmail.com>

Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?

On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
> Hi Mathew,
>
> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out I was
> trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed. However, this
> was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to reconnect to the
> stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that it cannot open the file.
> Not sure what is going on though.
>
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
> Dierckens via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and in
> iTunes, and they're all dead.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>
> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct link
> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to
>>> the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else
>>> experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information for any
>>> problems with the online stream, so thought I would post this on the
>>> email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this problem, and
>>> perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.
>>> com
>> --
>> Thank you
>> Ashley Coleman
>>
>> Blinkie Chicks
>> Social Media Manager
>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nabs-l:
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>> e.com
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-- 
Thank you
Ashley Coleman

Blinkie Chicks
Social Media Manager
http://www.blinkiechicks.com/



From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  3 14:31:13 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:31:13 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <53B567FA.3070304@gmail.com>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>	<8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
	<COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl>
	<53B567FA.3070304@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS149188ABE8EFC4C296C9F96BA010@phx.gbl>

Hi Ashley,

As I stated in my previous email, I am using Windows Media Player as I lost
WinAmp when I got my new computer. I find it really interesting that there
are so many problems with the online stream this year. I do not recall
experiencing all these problems last year.

Thanks,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?

On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
> Hi Mathew,
>
> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out I 
> was trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed. 
> However, this was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to 
> reconnect to the stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that it
cannot open the file.
> Not sure what is going on though.
>
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew 
> Dierckens via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students 
> mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and 
> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here 
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>
> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct 
>> link
> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of 
>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen 
>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone 
>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information 
>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post 
>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this 
>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
> nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.
>>> com
>> --
>> Thank you
>> Ashley Coleman
>>
>> Blinkie Chicks
>> Social Media Manager
>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nabs-l:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matt.dierckens%40
>> m
>> e.com
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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> om

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Thank you
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Blinkie Chicks
Social Media Manager
http://www.blinkiechicks.com/



From amc05111 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 14:43:12 2014
From: amc05111 at gmail.com (Ashley and Landon Coleman)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:43:12 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS149188ABE8EFC4C296C9F96BA010@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>	<8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
	<COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl>
	<53B567FA.3070304@gmail.com>
	<COL402-EAS149188ABE8EFC4C296C9F96BA010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <53B56C00.5030206@gmail.com>

I know that iBlink Radio on IOS devices is streaming it. If you have an 
iPhone or iPod. It might be a little easier for you.
Ashley


On 7/3/2014 10:31 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke wrote:
> Hi Ashley,
>
> As I stated in my previous email, I am using Windows Media Player as I lost
> WinAmp when I got my new computer. I find it really interesting that there
> are so many problems with the online stream this year. I do not recall
> experiencing all these problems last year.
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM
> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?
>
> On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>> Hi Mathew,
>>
>> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out I
>> was trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed.
>> However, this was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to
>> reconnect to the stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that it
> cannot open the file.
>> Not sure what is going on though.
>>
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
>> Dierckens via nabs-l
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
>> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>
>> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and
>> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct
>>> link
>> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen
>>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone
>>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information
>>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post
>>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this
>>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>> for
>> nabs-l:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.
>>>> com
>>> --
>>> Thank you
>>> Ashley Coleman
>>>
>>> Blinkie Chicks
>>> Social Media Manager
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  3 14:49:01 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:49:01 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <53B56C00.5030206@gmail.com>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>	<8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
	<COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl>
	<53B567FA.3070304@gmail.com>
	<COL402-EAS149188ABE8EFC4C296C9F96BA010@phx.gbl>
	<53B56C00.5030206@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS128EFE4E8A250D7ECAEB354BA010@phx.gbl>

Hi Ashley,

If I had one of those devices, I would have surely tried listening to the
stream on one of them. However, I currently do not have any of these
devices, and thus, I cannot use them. The stream seems to be more steady
now. It seems as though at the beginning of every convention it always takes
them a bit of time to get the stream working properly. But it seems to be
working good now, and hopefully it will remain this way for the rest of the
convention.

Thanks,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:43 AM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

I know that iBlink Radio on IOS devices is streaming it. If you have an
iPhone or iPod. It might be a little easier for you.
Ashley


On 7/3/2014 10:31 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke wrote:
> Hi Ashley,
>
> As I stated in my previous email, I am using Windows Media Player as I
lost
> WinAmp when I got my new computer. I find it really interesting that there
> are so many problems with the online stream this year. I do not recall
> experiencing all these problems last year.
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM
> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?
>
> On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>> Hi Mathew,
>>
>> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out I
>> was trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed.
>> However, this was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to
>> reconnect to the stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that it
> cannot open the file.
>> Not sure what is going on though.
>>
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
>> Dierckens via nabs-l
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
>> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>
>> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and
>> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct
>>> link
>> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen
>>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone
>>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information
>>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post
>>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this
>>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>> for
>> nabs-l:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.
>>>> com
>>> --
>>> Thank you
>>> Ashley Coleman
>>>
>>> Blinkie Chicks
>>> Social Media Manager
>>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>>
>>>
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> Thank you
> Ashley Coleman
>
> Blinkie Chicks
> Social Media Manager
> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>

-- 
Thank you
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Blinkie Chicks
Social Media Manager
http://www.blinkiechicks.com/



From mcapelle at charter.net  Thu Jul  3 14:48:34 2014
From: mcapelle at charter.net (Michael Capelle)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 09:48:34 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS149188ABE8EFC4C296C9F96BA010@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>	<8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com><COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl><53B567FA.3070304@gmail.com>
	<COL402-EAS149188ABE8EFC4C296C9F96BA010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <6F11E9EA84F5475581EA38BD99B3EFC3@MikePC>

no kidding, talk about disorganization, oh well, figures.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:31 AM
To: 'Ashley and Landon Coleman' ; 'National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Hi Ashley,

As I stated in my previous email, I am using Windows Media Player as I lost
WinAmp when I got my new computer. I find it really interesting that there
are so many problems with the online stream this year. I do not recall
experiencing all these problems last year.

Thanks,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?

On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
> Hi Mathew,
>
> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out I
> was trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed.
> However, this was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to
> reconnect to the stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that it
cannot open the file.
> Not sure what is going on though.
>
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
> Dierckens via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and
> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>
> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct
>> link
> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen
>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone
>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information
>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post
>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this
>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>> for
> nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.
>>> com
>> --
>> Thank you
>> Ashley Coleman
>>
>> Blinkie Chicks
>> Social Media Manager
>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nabs-l:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matt.dierckens%40
>> m
>> e.com
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From mcapelle at charter.net  Thu Jul  3 14:49:24 2014
From: mcapelle at charter.net (Michael Capelle)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 09:49:24 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com><8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
	<COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7AE7FAD0BA534974921767D035AA2D65@MikePC>

You will need to use ie if it is the spreaker cast as was used in the nabs 
business meeting.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:21 AM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Hi Mathew,

I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out I was
trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed. However, this
was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to reconnect to the
stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that it cannot open the file.
Not sure what is going on though.

Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
Dierckens via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and in
iTunes, and they're all dead.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct link
for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>
> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>
>
>
> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to
>> the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else
>> experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information for any
>> problems with the online stream, so thought I would post this on the
>> email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this problem, and
>> perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
nabs-l:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.
>> com
>
> --
> Thank you
> Ashley Coleman
>
> Blinkie Chicks
> Social Media Manager
> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>
>
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> e.com

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From amc05111 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 14:51:56 2014
From: amc05111 at gmail.com (Ashley and Landon Coleman)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:51:56 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS128EFE4E8A250D7ECAEB354BA010@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>	<8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
	<COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl>
	<53B567FA.3070304@gmail.com>
	<COL402-EAS149188ABE8EFC4C296C9F96BA010@phx.gbl>
	<53B56C00.5030206@gmail.com>
	<COL402-EAS128EFE4E8A250D7ECAEB354BA010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <53B56E0C.5030402@gmail.com>

I hope so. This is the first time I've really listened in for most of 
the convention.
Ashley

On 7/3/2014 10:49 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke wrote:
> Hi Ashley,
>
> If I had one of those devices, I would have surely tried listening to the
> stream on one of them. However, I currently do not have any of these
> devices, and thus, I cannot use them. The stream seems to be more steady
> now. It seems as though at the beginning of every convention it always takes
> them a bit of time to get the stream working properly. But it seems to be
> working good now, and hopefully it will remain this way for the rest of the
> convention.
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:43 AM
> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> I know that iBlink Radio on IOS devices is streaming it. If you have an
> iPhone or iPod. It might be a little easier for you.
> Ashley
>
>
> On 7/3/2014 10:31 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke wrote:
>> Hi Ashley,
>>
>> As I stated in my previous email, I am using Windows Media Player as I
> lost
>> WinAmp when I got my new computer. I find it really interesting that there
>> are so many problems with the online stream this year. I do not recall
>> experiencing all these problems last year.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM
>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>
>> Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?
>>
>> On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>> Hi Mathew,
>>>
>>> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out I
>>> was trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed.
>>> However, this was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to
>>> reconnect to the stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that it
>> cannot open the file.
>>> Not sure what is going on though.
>>>
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
>>> Dierckens via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
>>> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>>
>>> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and
>>> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct
>>>> link
>>> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen
>>>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone
>>>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information
>>>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post
>>>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this
>>>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>> for
>>> nabs-l:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.
>>>>> com
>>>> --
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Ashley Coleman
>>>>
>>>> Blinkie Chicks
>>>> Social Media Manager
>>>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nabs-l:
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>>>> m
>>>> e.com
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>>> om
>> --
>> Thank you
>> Ashley Coleman
>>
>> Blinkie Chicks
>> Social Media Manager
>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>

-- 
Thank you
Ashley Coleman

Blinkie Chicks
Social Media Manager
http://www.blinkiechicks.com/



From amc05111 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 14:52:45 2014
From: amc05111 at gmail.com (Ashley and Landon Coleman)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 10:52:45 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <7AE7FAD0BA534974921767D035AA2D65@MikePC>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com><8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>	<COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl>
	<7AE7FAD0BA534974921767D035AA2D65@MikePC>
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No, this is a different stream.
Ashley

On 7/3/2014 10:49 AM, Michael Capelle via nabs-l wrote:
> You will need to use ie if it is the spreaker cast as was used in the 
> nabs business meeting.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 9:21 AM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Hi Mathew,
>
> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out I was
> trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed. 
> However, this
> was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to reconnect to the
> stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that it cannot open the 
> file.
> Not sure what is going on though.
>
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
> Dierckens via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and in
> iTunes, and they're all dead.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>
> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct link
> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>
>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to
>>> the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else
>>> experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information for any
>>> problems with the online stream, so thought I would post this on the
>>> email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this problem, and
>>> perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  3 14:57:18 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:57:18 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl><53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>
	<8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
Message-ID: <20457C3BFCD74372953E0029D353D7DA@OwnerPC>

hi all,
I attempted this stream with windows media player.
Like Elizabeth, all times have been unsuccessful.
Windows media player opens and tells me that it cannot play that file.

I'll also try on my laptop and let you know if its  successful.

Last year it worked okay; yes a few breakups when the wifi was likely not 
strong or unconnected.
But it worked well overall.
Some of you say you can play it on your ios device. That's good and glad you 
can get it.
But they really should ensure you can play it via your windows device like 
laptop, pc or tablet if you do not have an apple device that connects to the 
internet.


Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:08 AM
To: Ashley and Landon Coleman ; National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and in 
iTunes, and they're all dead.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
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On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct link 
> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>
> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>
>
>
> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
>> meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
>> stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else experiencing 
>> this
>> issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the 
>> online
>> stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if anyone 
>> else
>> was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve
>> this issue.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>
> -- 
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> Ashley Coleman
>
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From pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com  Thu Jul  3 15:05:57 2014
From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com (Peter Donahue)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:05:57 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2E7E8E5C80D94D5DBF258FFC2CC0FAAC@peted2AB964BD1>

Good morning everyone,

    This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in to insure 
a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen every year. 
I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its Internet broadcasts. If 
this organization believed in doing things first-class it would invest more 
in to its ability to broadcast various events and would empower its members 
to create income sources to enable them to increase their contributions to 
the NFB and other causes to among other things improve the quality and 
reliability of it's Internet broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone Church 
can do this so can the NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. We're 
glad we're not wasting our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" 
<nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems


> Hello All,
>
> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
> meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
> stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else experiencing 
> this
> issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the 
> online
> stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if anyone 
> else
> was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve
> this issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From amc05111 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 15:05:37 2014
From: amc05111 at gmail.com (Ashley and Landon Coleman)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 11:05:37 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <20457C3BFCD74372953E0029D353D7DA@OwnerPC>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl><53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>	<8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>
	<20457C3BFCD74372953E0029D353D7DA@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <53B57141.4020406@gmail.com>

I'm using Foobar, and it's working fine for me. I have also tested it 
with Winamp, and this also works.

It could be the file extention that is being used.

Ashley
On 7/3/2014 10:57 AM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote:
> hi all,
> I attempted this stream with windows media player.
> Like Elizabeth, all times have been unsuccessful.
> Windows media player opens and tells me that it cannot play that file.
>
> I'll also try on my laptop and let you know if its  successful.
>
> Last year it worked okay; yes a few breakups when the wifi was likely 
> not strong or unconnected.
> But it worked well overall.
> Some of you say you can play it on your ios device. That's good and 
> glad you can get it.
> But they really should ensure you can play it via your windows device 
> like laptop, pc or tablet if you do not have an apple device that 
> connects to the internet.
>
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:08 AM
> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman ; National Association of Blind Students 
> mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and 
> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>
> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct 
>> link for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>
>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
>>> meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
>>> stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else 
>>> experiencing this
>>> issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with 
>>> the online
>>> stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if 
>>> anyone else
>>> was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could 
>>> resolve
>>> this issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.com 
>>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> Ashley Coleman
>>
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>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>
>>
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  3 16:02:05 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:02:05 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <2E7E8E5C80D94D5DBF258FFC2CC0FAAC@peted2AB964BD1>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
	<2E7E8E5C80D94D5DBF258FFC2CC0FAAC@peted2AB964BD1>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS4226235F83E47C6394CEC75BA010@phx.gbl>

Hello Peter,

I most definitely agree with you. The poor quality of the online stream was
really getting on my nerves this morning. If it remains this way throughout
the rest of the convention, I am not quite sure if it is really worth the
time and effort. With all the computer gurus and engineers within the NFB, I
am rather surprised we cannot produce a quality online stream for the
convention. In my opinion, they should either put the resources necessary to
provide a quality online stream, or simply not provide the online stream in
the first place.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Donahue [mailto:pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:06 AM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Good morning everyone,

    This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in to insure
a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen every year. 
I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its Internet broadcasts. If
this organization believed in doing things first-class it would invest more
in to its ability to broadcast various events and would empower its members
to create income sources to enable them to increase their contributions to
the NFB and other causes to among other things improve the quality and
reliability of it's Internet broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone Church
can do this so can the NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. We're
glad we're not wasting our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" 
<nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems


> Hello All,
>
> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
> meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
> stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else experiencing 
> this
> issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the 
> online
> stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if anyone 
> else
> was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve
> this issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Thu Jul  3 16:06:40 2014
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 12:06:40 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS4226235F83E47C6394CEC75BA010@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<2E7E8E5C80D94D5DBF258FFC2CC0FAAC@peted2AB964BD1>
	<COL402-EAS4226235F83E47C6394CEC75BA010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <53B57F90.6030100@tysdomain.com>

The stream does keep going up and down, which is quite sad. The 
recording was much much better than the NABS recording last night 
though. Whoever was doing it kept clearing his throat and you could hear 
him touching the laptop, where the internal mic would pick it up. If 
they could keep the stream up it sounded pretty good, at least for the 5 
minutes of scholarship speeches I was able to tune in for.
On 7/3/2014 12:02 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> I most definitely agree with you. The poor quality of the online stream was
> really getting on my nerves this morning. If it remains this way throughout
> the rest of the convention, I am not quite sure if it is really worth the
> time and effort. With all the computer gurus and engineers within the NFB, I
> am rather surprised we cannot produce a quality online stream for the
> convention. In my opinion, they should either put the resources necessary to
> provide a quality online stream, or simply not provide the online stream in
> the first place.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Donahue [mailto:pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:06 AM
> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
>      This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in to insure
> a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen every year.
> I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its Internet broadcasts. If
> this organization believed in doing things first-class it would invest more
> in to its ability to broadcast various events and would empower its members
> to create income sources to enable them to increase their contributions to
> the NFB and other causes to among other things improve the quality and
> reliability of it's Internet broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone Church
> can do this so can the NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. We're
> glad we're not wasting our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'"
> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
>> meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
>> stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else experiencing
>> this
>> issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the
>> online
>> stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if anyone
>> else
>> was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve
>> this issue.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From amc05111 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 16:14:48 2014
From: amc05111 at gmail.com (Ashley and Landon Coleman)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 12:14:48 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <53B57F90.6030100@tysdomain.com>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<2E7E8E5C80D94D5DBF258FFC2CC0FAAC@peted2AB964BD1>	<COL402-EAS4226235F83E47C6394CEC75BA010@phx.gbl>
	<53B57F90.6030100@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <53B58178.3070001@gmail.com>

I think that the stream that David Dunphy did last night for NABS was 
much better than the one this morning. IMO. I hope they can figure out a 
better way of streaming that is reliable.
Ashley





On 7/3/2014 12:06 PM, Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l wrote:
> The stream does keep going up and down, which is quite sad. The 
> recording was much much better than the NABS recording last night 
> though. Whoever was doing it kept clearing his throat and you could 
> hear him touching the laptop, where the internal mic would pick it up. 
> If they could keep the stream up it sounded pretty good, at least for 
> the 5 minutes of scholarship speeches I was able to tune in for.
> On 7/3/2014 12:02 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> I most definitely agree with you. The poor quality of the online 
>> stream was
>> really getting on my nerves this morning. If it remains this way 
>> throughout
>> the rest of the convention, I am not quite sure if it is really worth 
>> the
>> time and effort. With all the computer gurus and engineers within the 
>> NFB, I
>> am rather surprised we cannot produce a quality online stream for the
>> convention. In my opinion, they should either put the resources 
>> necessary to
>> provide a quality online stream, or simply not provide the online 
>> stream in
>> the first place.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Donahue [mailto:pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:06 AM
>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing 
>> list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>>      This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in 
>> to insure
>> a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen every 
>> year.
>> I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its Internet 
>> broadcasts. If
>> this organization believed in doing things first-class it would 
>> invest more
>> in to its ability to broadcast various events and would empower its 
>> members
>> to create income sources to enable them to increase their 
>> contributions to
>> the NFB and other causes to among other things improve the quality and
>> reliability of it's Internet broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone 
>> Church
>> can do this so can the NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. 
>> We're
>> glad we're not wasting our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'"
>> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
>>> meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
>>> stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else experiencing
>>> this
>>> issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the
>>> online
>>> stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if anyone
>>> else
>>> was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could 
>>> resolve
>>> this issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  3 16:16:48 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:16:48 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <53B57F90.6030100@tysdomain.com>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<2E7E8E5C80D94D5DBF258FFC2CC0FAAC@peted2AB964BD1>
	<COL402-EAS4226235F83E47C6394CEC75BA010@phx.gbl>
	<53B57F90.6030100@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS390B2E55E3C90ED2288C070BA010@phx.gbl>

Hello Tyler,

I agree with you. However, on my end at least, I was never really able to
get a constant connection, and I was constantly trying to reconnect in with
the hopes that I could reconnect to the online stream. However, since I am
able to connect at times, I believe the problem is on their side of things
and not mine. I know someone made a comment about the access to the internet
service in the hotel, but I do not understand why this would be an issue
this year when it was not an issue last year. It would seem to me that if we
are in the same hotel as last year that we should be able to get the same
quality online stream we received last year. I honestly do not know what the
problem might be.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: Littlefield, Tyler [mailto:tyler at tysdomain.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:07 PM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

The stream does keep going up and down, which is quite sad. The recording
was much much better than the NABS recording last night though. Whoever was
doing it kept clearing his throat and you could hear him touching the
laptop, where the internal mic would pick it up. If they could keep the
stream up it sounded pretty good, at least for the 5 minutes of scholarship
speeches I was able to tune in for.
On 7/3/2014 12:02 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> I most definitely agree with you. The poor quality of the online 
> stream was really getting on my nerves this morning. If it remains 
> this way throughout the rest of the convention, I am not quite sure if 
> it is really worth the time and effort. With all the computer gurus 
> and engineers within the NFB, I am rather surprised we cannot produce 
> a quality online stream for the convention. In my opinion, they should 
> either put the resources necessary to provide a quality online stream, 
> or simply not provide the online stream in the first place.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Donahue [mailto:pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:06 AM
> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing 
> list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
>      This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in to 
> insure a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen
every year.
> I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its Internet 
> broadcasts. If this organization believed in doing things first-class 
> it would invest more in to its ability to broadcast various events and 
> would empower its members to create income sources to enable them to 
> increase their contributions to the NFB and other causes to among 
> other things improve the quality and reliability of it's Internet 
> broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone Church can do this so can the 
> NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. We're glad we're not wasting
our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'"
> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of 
>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to 
>> the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else 
>> experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information for any 
>> problems with the online stream, so thought I would post this on the 
>> email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this problem, and 
>> perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>>
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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Thu Jul  3 16:20:53 2014
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 12:20:53 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <2E7E8E5C80D94D5DBF258FFC2CC0FAAC@peted2AB964BD1>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
	<2E7E8E5C80D94D5DBF258FFC2CC0FAAC@peted2AB964BD1>
Message-ID: <53B582E5.6080307@tysdomain.com>

Firstly, I always have to laugh at the royal we used here.
Second, perhaps your church could go start a soup kitchen rather than 
being first-class. Just a thought, since you're bragging about them.
Third and probably most important: I'm not sure what your problem is 
right now or how the quality of an online stream (possibly due to the 
hotel's internet at the moment) is related to people's empowerment and 
employment. perhaps you could enlighten us?

On 7/3/2014 11:05 AM, Peter Donahue via nabs-l wrote:
> Good morning everyone,
>
>    This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in to 
> insure a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen 
> every year. I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its 
> Internet broadcasts. If this organization believed in doing things 
> first-class it would invest more in to its ability to broadcast 
> various events and would empower its members to create income sources 
> to enable them to increase their contributions to the NFB and other 
> causes to among other things improve the quality and reliability of 
> it's Internet broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone Church can do 
> this so can the NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. We're 
> glad we're not wasting our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" 
> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
>> meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
>> stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else 
>> experiencing this
>> issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the 
>> online
>> stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if 
>> anyone else
>> was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could 
>> resolve
>> this issue.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>>
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  3 16:35:03 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:35:03 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS390B2E55E3C90ED2288C070BA010@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<2E7E8E5C80D94D5DBF258FFC2CC0FAAC@peted2AB964BD1><COL402-EAS4226235F83E47C6394CEC75BA010@phx.gbl><53B57F90.6030100@tysdomain.com>
	<COL402-EAS390B2E55E3C90ED2288C070BA010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F4AA1EEC1D814B4F8D7981A0E8F6A2D9@OwnerPC>

hi,
I tried several times, and never got a connection at all.
Windows media player says it cannot play the file type.
Therefore, my thinking is that the file stream is not compatible with 
windows media player and real player.

I think it’s the device and media player we use. Others reported it works 
fine with winamp and ios devices.

As for last year, it was decent quality for many parts. The worst was the 
first day, but after that, I don't recall having much issues. I heard 
several speeches with no hick ups in connection.

As for the nabs stream yesterday, I heard half of it, the other part I was 
eating and other things.
The stream was constant, no misconnections once I began. The quality IMO was 
medium, I mean not the worst but not the best I've heard. Yes, I did hear 
background noise such as the recording person touching the laptop and people 
in the background talking and him clearing his throat.
However, there was no connection issues so the constant stream was what I 
wanted.
I commend David for his efforts. Remember he is a volunteer doing this and 
found a spot close to the speakers to capture it for us.
I'm sure he did the best he could.

I'd like to hear convention live. If I cannot, I know we will see recordings 
online later.

Some of you reported winamp is fine. I thought that service was dead.
Please explain what winamp is and how I might use that.

Thanks.
Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:16 PM
To: tyler at tysdomain.com ; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing 
list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Hello Tyler,

I agree with you. However, on my end at least, I was never really able to
get a constant connection, and I was constantly trying to reconnect in with
the hopes that I could reconnect to the online stream. However, since I am
able to connect at times, I believe the problem is on their side of things
and not mine. I know someone made a comment about the access to the internet
service in the hotel, but I do not understand why this would be an issue
this year when it was not an issue last year. It would seem to me that if we
are in the same hotel as last year that we should be able to get the same
quality online stream we received last year. I honestly do not know what the
problem might be.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: Littlefield, Tyler [mailto:tyler at tysdomain.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:07 PM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

The stream does keep going up and down, which is quite sad. The recording
was much much better than the NABS recording last night though. Whoever was
doing it kept clearing his throat and you could hear him touching the
laptop, where the internal mic would pick it up. If they could keep the
stream up it sounded pretty good, at least for the 5 minutes of scholarship
speeches I was able to tune in for.
On 7/3/2014 12:02 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
> Hello Peter,
>
> I most definitely agree with you. The poor quality of the online
> stream was really getting on my nerves this morning. If it remains
> this way throughout the rest of the convention, I am not quite sure if
> it is really worth the time and effort. With all the computer gurus
> and engineers within the NFB, I am rather surprised we cannot produce
> a quality online stream for the convention. In my opinion, they should
> either put the resources necessary to provide a quality online stream,
> or simply not provide the online stream in the first place.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Donahue [mailto:pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:06 AM
> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing
> list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Good morning everyone,
>
>      This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in to
> insure a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen
every year.
> I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its Internet
> broadcasts. If this organization believed in doing things first-class
> it would invest more in to its ability to broadcast various events and
> would empower its members to create income sources to enable them to
> increase their contributions to the NFB and other causes to among
> other things improve the quality and reliability of it's Internet
> broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone Church can do this so can the
> NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. We're glad we're not wasting
our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'"
> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to
>> the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else
>> experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information for any
>> problems with the online stream, so thought I would post this on the
>> email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this problem, and
>> perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>>
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  3 16:35:54 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:35:54 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <53B582E5.6080307@tysdomain.com>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<2E7E8E5C80D94D5DBF258FFC2CC0FAAC@peted2AB964BD1>
	<53B582E5.6080307@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS133452A64EAF69E3615D0C2BA010@phx.gbl>

Hello Tyler,

I think all Peter is trying to say is that if a little church can provide a
quality online stream, then a larger organization like the NFB could also
provide a quality online stream as well. I also think he acknowledges the
fact that providing a quality online stream takes money, but if that is all
that is needed, then perhaps the organization could do more to encourage
members to contribute to this cause financially. 

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
Tyler via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:21 PM
To: Peter Donahue; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Firstly, I always have to laugh at the royal we used here.
Second, perhaps your church could go start a soup kitchen rather than being
first-class. Just a thought, since you're bragging about them.
Third and probably most important: I'm not sure what your problem is right
now or how the quality of an online stream (possibly due to the hotel's
internet at the moment) is related to people's empowerment and employment.
perhaps you could enlighten us?

On 7/3/2014 11:05 AM, Peter Donahue via nabs-l wrote:
> Good morning everyone,
>
>    This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in to 
> insure a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen 
> every year. I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its 
> Internet broadcasts. If this organization believed in doing things 
> first-class it would invest more in to its ability to broadcast 
> various events and would empower its members to create income sources 
> to enable them to increase their contributions to the NFB and other 
> causes to among other things improve the quality and reliability of 
> it's Internet broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone Church can do 
> this so can the NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. We're 
> glad we're not wasting our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'" 
> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of 
>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to 
>> the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else 
>> experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information for any 
>> problems with the online stream, so thought I would post this on the 
>> email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this problem, and 
>> perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>>
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From dandrews at visi.com  Thu Jul  3 17:02:34 2014
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 12:02:34 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <auto-000159822353@mailfront4.g2host.com>

There is a set of links for english, and a set for Spanish.  Make 
sure you choose from the right group.  Also, my stream was up and down.

Dave

At 08:23 AM 7/3/2014, you wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of Directors
>meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to the online
>stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else experiencing this
>issue? There is not any contact information for any problems with the online
>stream, so thought I would post this on the email list to see if anyone else
>was experiencing this problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve
>this issue.



From pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com  Thu Jul  3 17:02:56 2014
From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com (Peter Donahue)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:02:56 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
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Hello Elizabeth and everyone,

    And promote the notion that one must create life-time sources of income 
not just one to last them 40 or 50 years if that; a job. The more blind 
entrepreneurs we have in the NFB the better our chances of increased 
employment among the blind and obtaining the financial resources to invest 
in improving our capability to host Internet broadcasts.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <tyler at tysdomain.com>; "'National Association of Blind Students mailing 
list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems


> Hello Tyler,
>
> I think all Peter is trying to say is that if a little church can provide 
> a
> quality online stream, then a larger organization like the NFB could also
> provide a quality online stream as well. I also think he acknowledges the
> fact that providing a quality online stream takes money, but if that is 
> all
> that is needed, then perhaps the organization could do more to encourage
> members to contribute to this cause financially.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
> Tyler via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:21 PM
> To: Peter Donahue; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Firstly, I always have to laugh at the royal we used here.
> Second, perhaps your church could go start a soup kitchen rather than 
> being
> first-class. Just a thought, since you're bragging about them.
> Third and probably most important: I'm not sure what your problem is right
> now or how the quality of an online stream (possibly due to the hotel's
> internet at the moment) is related to people's empowerment and employment.
> perhaps you could enlighten us?
>
> On 7/3/2014 11:05 AM, Peter Donahue via nabs-l wrote:
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>>    This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in to
>> insure a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen
>> every year. I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its
>> Internet broadcasts. If this organization believed in doing things
>> first-class it would invest more in to its ability to broadcast
>> various events and would empower its members to create income sources
>> to enable them to increase their contributions to the NFB and other
>> causes to among other things improve the quality and reliability of
>> it's Internet broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone Church can do
>> this so can the NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. We're
>> glad we're not wasting our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'"
>> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to
>>> the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else
>>> experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information for any
>>> problems with the online stream, so thought I would post this on the
>>> email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this problem, and
>>> perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
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> Ty
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> that
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From jsoro620 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 18:07:21 2014
From: jsoro620 at gmail.com (Joe)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:07:21 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <6E44375F23694F05BB35E4ABC604B66F@peted2AB964BD1>
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For whatever it's worth, there was a presentation on the KNFB Reader iOS
app. One of the documents they demonstrated appeared to be a notice from the
hotel apologizing for wi-fi infrastructure issues, so it may very well be a
hotel problem. I'm just saying the eradic behavior may have nothing to do
with the organization's audio engineers.

Big thanks to David last night for streaming what he could via his phone. I
was bummed that it ended before the infamous election. Does anyone know who
wound up winning what positions? I've never known Dr. Maurer to express such
a blatant interest in student government. But, if the general elections can
be predetermined... LOL I kid I kid.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:03 PM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Hello Elizabeth and everyone,

    And promote the notion that one must create life-time sources of income
not just one to last them 40 or 50 years if that; a job. The more blind
entrepreneurs we have in the NFB the better our chances of increased
employment among the blind and obtaining the financial resources to invest
in improving our capability to host Internet broadcasts.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <tyler at tysdomain.com>; "'National Association of Blind Students mailing
list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems


> Hello Tyler,
>
> I think all Peter is trying to say is that if a little church can 
> provide a quality online stream, then a larger organization like the 
> NFB could also provide a quality online stream as well. I also think 
> he acknowledges the fact that providing a quality online stream takes 
> money, but if that is all that is needed, then perhaps the 
> organization could do more to encourage members to contribute to this 
> cause financially.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:21 PM
> To: Peter Donahue; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Firstly, I always have to laugh at the royal we used here.
> Second, perhaps your church could go start a soup kitchen rather than 
> being first-class. Just a thought, since you're bragging about them.
> Third and probably most important: I'm not sure what your problem is 
> right now or how the quality of an online stream (possibly due to the 
> hotel's internet at the moment) is related to people's empowerment and
employment.
> perhaps you could enlighten us?
>
> On 7/3/2014 11:05 AM, Peter Donahue via nabs-l wrote:
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>>    This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in to 
>> insure a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen 
>> every year. I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its 
>> Internet broadcasts. If this organization believed in doing things 
>> first-class it would invest more in to its ability to broadcast 
>> various events and would empower its members to create income sources 
>> to enable them to increase their contributions to the NFB and other 
>> causes to among other things improve the quality and reliability of 
>> it's Internet broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone Church can do 
>> this so can the NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. We're 
>> glad we're not wasting our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'"
>> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of 
>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen 
>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone 
>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information 
>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post 
>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this 
>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>> for
>>> nabs-l:
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>>> rr.com
>>
>>
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>
> --
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From jhud7789 at outlook.com  Thu Jul  3 18:09:24 2014
From: jhud7789 at outlook.com (Joeph Hudson)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 13:09:24 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
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Hi Ashley and all, I just tried to listen to it the iBlink Radio and I got an air something about the audio could not be found. In some time at home I have not tried any of the links are you off submitted to the list.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:44 AM, "Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I know that iBlink Radio on IOS devices is streaming it. If you have an iPhone or iPod. It might be a little easier for you.
> Ashley
> 
> 
>> On 7/3/2014 10:31 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke wrote:
>> Hi Ashley,
>> 
>> As I stated in my previous email, I am using Windows Media Player as I lost
>> WinAmp when I got my new computer. I find it really interesting that there
>> are so many problems with the online stream this year. I do not recall
>> experiencing all these problems last year.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM
>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>> 
>> Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?
>> 
>>> On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>> Hi Mathew,
>>> 
>>> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out I
>>> was trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed.
>>> However, this was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to
>>> reconnect to the stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that it
>> cannot open the file.
>>> Not sure what is going on though.
>>> 
>>> Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
>>> Dierckens via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
>>> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and
>>> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>> 
>>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct
>>>> link
>>> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen
>>>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone
>>>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information
>>>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post
>>>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this
>>>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>> for
>>> nabs-l:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.
>>>>> com
>>>> --
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Ashley Coleman
>>>> 
>>>> Blinkie Chicks
>>>> Social Media Manager
>>>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>> Ashley Coleman
>> 
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>> Social Media Manager
>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>> 
> 
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From jsoro620 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 18:15:56 2014
From: jsoro620 at gmail.com (Joe)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:15:56 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <BLU405-EAS361599BF8A4EB74961827B1CE010@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl>	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>	<8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com>	<COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl>	<53B567FA.3070304@gmail.com>	<COL402-EAS149188ABE8EFC4C296C9F96BA010@phx.gbl>	<53B56C00.5030206@gmail.com>
	<BLU405-EAS361599BF8A4EB74961827B1CE010@phx.gbl>
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Hi, iBlink Radio will stream exhibit hall interviews, but not the general
sessions. Coverage of interviews should start tomorrow. I could be wrong but
think that's the memo.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joeph Hudson
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:09 PM
To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Hi Ashley and all, I just tried to listen to it the iBlink Radio and I got
an air something about the audio could not be found. In some time at home I
have not tried any of the links are you off submitted to the list.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:44 AM, "Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I know that iBlink Radio on IOS devices is streaming it. If you have an
iPhone or iPod. It might be a little easier for you.
> Ashley
> 
> 
>> On 7/3/2014 10:31 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke wrote:
>> Hi Ashley,
>> 
>> As I stated in my previous email, I am using Windows Media Player as 
>> I lost WinAmp when I got my new computer. I find it really 
>> interesting that there are so many problems with the online stream 
>> this year. I do not recall experiencing all these problems last year.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM
>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing 
>> list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>> 
>> Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?
>> 
>>> On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>> Hi Mathew,
>>> 
>>> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out 
>>> I was trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed.
>>> However, this was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to 
>>> reconnect to the stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that 
>>> it
>> cannot open the file.
>>> Not sure what is going on though.
>>> 
>>> Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew 
>>> Dierckens via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
>>> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind 
>>> Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and 
>>> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here 
>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>> 
>>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct 
>>>> link
>>> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of 
>>>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen 
>>>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone 
>>>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information 
>>>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post 
>>>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this 
>>>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info 
>>>>> for
>>> nabs-l:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.
>>>>> com
>>>> --
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Ashley Coleman
>>>> 
>>>> Blinkie Chicks
>>>> Social Media Manager
>>>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 18:23:07 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:23:07 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
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Will this stuff be archived? Who is the president of NABS? RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "'Joeph Hudson'" <jhud7789 at outlook.com>; "'National Association of Blind 
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Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems


> Hi, iBlink Radio will stream exhibit hall interviews, but not the general
> sessions. Coverage of interviews should start tomorrow. I could be wrong 
> but
> think that's the memo.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joeph Hudson
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:09 PM
> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Hi Ashley and all, I just tried to listen to it the iBlink Radio and I got
> an air something about the audio could not be found. In some time at home 
> I
> have not tried any of the links are you off submitted to the list.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:44 AM, "Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I know that iBlink Radio on IOS devices is streaming it. If you have an
> iPhone or iPod. It might be a little easier for you.
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>>> On 7/3/2014 10:31 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke wrote:
>>> Hi Ashley,
>>>
>>> As I stated in my previous email, I am using Windows Media Player as
>>> I lost WinAmp when I got my new computer. I find it really
>>> interesting that there are so many problems with the online stream
>>> this year. I do not recall experiencing all these problems last year.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM
>>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>>
>>> Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?
>>>
>>>> On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>> Hi Mathew,
>>>>
>>>> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out
>>>> I was trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed.
>>>> However, this was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to
>>>> reconnect to the stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that
>>>> it
>>> cannot open the file.
>>>> Not sure what is going on though.
>>>>
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
>>>> Dierckens via nabs-l
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
>>>> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind
>>>> Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and
>>>> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
>>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>>> Blind Access Training
>>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
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>>>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct
>>>>> link
>>>> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>>>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>>>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen
>>>>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone
>>>>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information
>>>>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post
>>>>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this
>>>>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>>
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From jhud7789 at outlook.com  Thu Jul  3 18:25:48 2014
From: jhud7789 at outlook.com (Joeph Hudson)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 13:25:48 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
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Hi, the reason why and that it is like that is because there may be a lot of people using the Internet with inside the hotel. After doing something, with large files or uploading videos of that nature then back in constant have problems with streaming.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2014, at 11:17 AM, "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Tyler,
> 
> I agree with you. However, on my end at least, I was never really able to
> get a constant connection, and I was constantly trying to reconnect in with
> the hopes that I could reconnect to the online stream. However, since I am
> able to connect at times, I believe the problem is on their side of things
> and not mine. I know someone made a comment about the access to the internet
> service in the hotel, but I do not understand why this would be an issue
> this year when it was not an issue last year. It would seem to me that if we
> are in the same hotel as last year that we should be able to get the same
> quality online stream we received last year. I honestly do not know what the
> problem might be.
> 
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Littlefield, Tyler [mailto:tyler at tysdomain.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:07 PM
> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
> 
> The stream does keep going up and down, which is quite sad. The recording
> was much much better than the NABS recording last night though. Whoever was
> doing it kept clearing his throat and you could hear him touching the
> laptop, where the internal mic would pick it up. If they could keep the
> stream up it sounded pretty good, at least for the 5 minutes of scholarship
> speeches I was able to tune in for.
>> On 7/3/2014 12:02 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>> Hello Peter,
>> 
>> I most definitely agree with you. The poor quality of the online 
>> stream was really getting on my nerves this morning. If it remains 
>> this way throughout the rest of the convention, I am not quite sure if 
>> it is really worth the time and effort. With all the computer gurus 
>> and engineers within the NFB, I am rather surprised we cannot produce 
>> a quality online stream for the convention. In my opinion, they should 
>> either put the resources necessary to provide a quality online stream, 
>> or simply not provide the online stream in the first place.
>> 
>> Warm regards,
>> Elizabeth
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Donahue [mailto:pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:06 AM
>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing 
>> list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>> 
>> Good morning everyone,
>> 
>>     This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in to 
>> insure a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen
> every year.
>> I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its Internet 
>> broadcasts. If this organization believed in doing things first-class 
>> it would invest more in to its ability to broadcast various events and 
>> would empower its members to create income sources to enable them to 
>> increase their contributions to the NFB and other causes to among 
>> other things improve the quality and reliability of it's Internet 
>> broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone Church can do this so can the 
>> NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. We're glad we're not wasting
> our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.
>> 
>> Peter Donahue
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'"
>> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>> 
>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of 
>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen to 
>>> the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone else 
>>> experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information for any 
>>> problems with the online stream, so thought I would post this on the 
>>> email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this problem, and 
>>> perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>> 
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Thu Jul  3 18:26:39 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:26:39 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
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Hello Joe,

Thank you for your post. I have never seen the online stream this bad
before. While I was able to hear some of this morning's business meeting, I
did not hear the demonstration you mention in your post.

As for the elections, I will give the new board a chance to post an official
announcement on the list. However, if you search for the hashtag #nabs14,
you should be able to find the results of the elections. Chris Nusbaum did
an exhalent job live tweeting the NABS business meeting. However, based on
the timing of his last election tweet, it looks as though his phone died
during the NABS business meeting as well.

Again, thank you to everyone who has played a part in making those of us who
are not able to attend the convention feel as though we are still a part of
things even though we are not there.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth




-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joe via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:07 PM
To: 'Peter Donahue'; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

For whatever it's worth, there was a presentation on the KNFB Reader iOS
app. One of the documents they demonstrated appeared to be a notice from the
hotel apologizing for wi-fi infrastructure issues, so it may very well be a
hotel problem. I'm just saying the eradic behavior may have nothing to do
with the organization's audio engineers.

Big thanks to David last night for streaming what he could via his phone. I
was bummed that it ended before the infamous election. Does anyone know who
wound up winning what positions? I've never known Dr. Maurer to express such
a blatant interest in student government. But, if the general elections can
be predetermined... LOL I kid I kid.

Joe

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-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:03 PM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Hello Elizabeth and everyone,

    And promote the notion that one must create life-time sources of income
not just one to last them 40 or 50 years if that; a job. The more blind
entrepreneurs we have in the NFB the better our chances of increased
employment among the blind and obtaining the financial resources to invest
in improving our capability to host Internet broadcasts.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message -----
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To: <tyler at tysdomain.com>; "'National Association of Blind Students mailing
list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems


> Hello Tyler,
>
> I think all Peter is trying to say is that if a little church can 
> provide a quality online stream, then a larger organization like the 
> NFB could also provide a quality online stream as well. I also think 
> he acknowledges the fact that providing a quality online stream takes 
> money, but if that is all that is needed, then perhaps the 
> organization could do more to encourage members to contribute to this 
> cause financially.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:21 PM
> To: Peter Donahue; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Firstly, I always have to laugh at the royal we used here.
> Second, perhaps your church could go start a soup kitchen rather than 
> being first-class. Just a thought, since you're bragging about them.
> Third and probably most important: I'm not sure what your problem is 
> right now or how the quality of an online stream (possibly due to the 
> hotel's internet at the moment) is related to people's empowerment and
employment.
> perhaps you could enlighten us?
>
> On 7/3/2014 11:05 AM, Peter Donahue via nabs-l wrote:
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>>    This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in to 
>> insure a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen 
>> every year. I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its 
>> Internet broadcasts. If this organization believed in doing things 
>> first-class it would invest more in to its ability to broadcast 
>> various events and would empower its members to create income sources 
>> to enable them to increase their contributions to the NFB and other 
>> causes to among other things improve the quality and reliability of 
>> it's Internet broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone Church can do 
>> this so can the NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. We're 
>> glad we're not wasting our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'"
>> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of 
>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen 
>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone 
>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information 
>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post 
>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this 
>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  3 18:35:55 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:35:55 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
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good question Joe.
I wanted to hear the elections, but his phone was running out.
I really commend his efforts on a volunteer basis. It enabled me to hear the 
science presentation and the rep from Pearson and that very much interested 
me.

Looking forward to election results.
Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joe via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:07 PM
To: 'Peter Donahue' ; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

For whatever it's worth, there was a presentation on the KNFB Reader iOS
app. One of the documents they demonstrated appeared to be a notice from the
hotel apologizing for wi-fi infrastructure issues, so it may very well be a
hotel problem. I'm just saying the eradic behavior may have nothing to do
with the organization's audio engineers.

Big thanks to David last night for streaming what he could via his phone. I
was bummed that it ended before the infamous election. Does anyone know who
wound up winning what positions? I've never known Dr. Maurer to express such
a blatant interest in student government. But, if the general elections can
be predetermined... LOL I kid I kid.

Joe

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-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 1:03 PM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Hello Elizabeth and everyone,

    And promote the notion that one must create life-time sources of income
not just one to last them 40 or 50 years if that; a job. The more blind
entrepreneurs we have in the NFB the better our chances of increased
employment among the blind and obtaining the financial resources to invest
in improving our capability to host Internet broadcasts.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message -----
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To: <tyler at tysdomain.com>; "'National Association of Blind Students mailing
list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems


> Hello Tyler,
>
> I think all Peter is trying to say is that if a little church can
> provide a quality online stream, then a larger organization like the
> NFB could also provide a quality online stream as well. I also think
> he acknowledges the fact that providing a quality online stream takes
> money, but if that is all that is needed, then perhaps the
> organization could do more to encourage members to contribute to this
> cause financially.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 12:21 PM
> To: Peter Donahue; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Firstly, I always have to laugh at the royal we used here.
> Second, perhaps your church could go start a soup kitchen rather than
> being first-class. Just a thought, since you're bragging about them.
> Third and probably most important: I'm not sure what your problem is
> right now or how the quality of an online stream (possibly due to the
> hotel's internet at the moment) is related to people's empowerment and
employment.
> perhaps you could enlighten us?
>
> On 7/3/2014 11:05 AM, Peter Donahue via nabs-l wrote:
>> Good morning everyone,
>>
>>    This problem occurs every year. If they put as much funding in to
>> insure a high-quality stream that works properly this wouldn't happen
>> every year. I'm sure glad our church doesn't try to "Cheap" its
>> Internet broadcasts. If this organization believed in doing things
>> first-class it would invest more in to its ability to broadcast
>> various events and would empower its members to create income sources
>> to enable them to increase their contributions to the NFB and other
>> causes to among other things improve the quality and reliability of
>> it's Internet broadcast capabilities. If Cornerstone Church can do
>> this so can the NFB. Sorry you are having so much difficulty. We're
>> glad we're not wasting our time. Thanks for saving us the hassle.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; "'NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List'"
>> <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:23 AM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen
>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone
>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information
>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post
>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this
>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  3 18:36:30 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:36:30 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
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iblink radio? what is that and where might I hear the coverage?

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joe via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:15 PM
To: 'Joeph Hudson' ; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Hi, iBlink Radio will stream exhibit hall interviews, but not the general
sessions. Coverage of interviews should start tomorrow. I could be wrong but
think that's the memo.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joeph Hudson
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:09 PM
To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Hi Ashley and all, I just tried to listen to it the iBlink Radio and I got
an air something about the audio could not be found. In some time at home I
have not tried any of the links are you off submitted to the list.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:44 AM, "Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l"
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I know that iBlink Radio on IOS devices is streaming it. If you have an
iPhone or iPod. It might be a little easier for you.
> Ashley
>
>
>> On 7/3/2014 10:31 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke wrote:
>> Hi Ashley,
>>
>> As I stated in my previous email, I am using Windows Media Player as
>> I lost WinAmp when I got my new computer. I find it really
>> interesting that there are so many problems with the online stream
>> this year. I do not recall experiencing all these problems last year.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM
>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>> list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>
>> Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?
>>
>>> On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>> Hi Mathew,
>>>
>>> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out
>>> I was trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed.
>>> However, this was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to
>>> reconnect to the stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that
>>> it
>> cannot open the file.
>>> Not sure what is going on though.
>>>
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
>>> Dierckens via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
>>> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind
>>> Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>>
>>> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and
>>> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct
>>>> link
>>> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen
>>>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone
>>>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information
>>>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post
>>>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this
>>>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>
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>>>>> com
>>>> --
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>>>> Ashley Coleman
>>>>
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  3 18:37:26 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:37:26 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
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References: <COL402-EAS34489468FDEC7490393E442BA010@phx.gbl><53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com><8E631F29-B23B-4882-9EB9-9F0D5C756594@me.com><COL402-EAS41938DC8CB27B5C56113439BA010@phx.gbl><53B567FA.3070304@gmail.com><COL402-EAS149188ABE8EFC4C296C9F96BA010@phx.gbl><53B56C00.5030206@gmail.com>
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but its streamed by nfb and you click on the link from their website, not 
iblink radio.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joeph Hudson via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:09 PM
To: Ashley and Landon Coleman ; National Association ofBlind Students 
mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Hi Ashley and all, I just tried to listen to it the iBlink Radio and I got 
an air something about the audio could not be found. In some time at home I 
have not tried any of the links are you off submitted to the list.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:44 AM, "Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> I know that iBlink Radio on IOS devices is streaming it. If you have an 
> iPhone or iPod. It might be a little easier for you.
> Ashley
>
>
>> On 7/3/2014 10:31 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke wrote:
>> Hi Ashley,
>>
>> As I stated in my previous email, I am using Windows Media Player as I 
>> lost
>> WinAmp when I got my new computer. I find it really interesting that 
>> there
>> are so many problems with the online stream this year. I do not recall
>> experiencing all these problems last year.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM
>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>
>> Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?
>>
>>> On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>> Hi Mathew,
>>>
>>> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out I
>>> was trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed.
>>> However, this was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to
>>> reconnect to the stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that it
>> cannot open the file.
>>> Not sure what is going on though.
>>>
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
>>> Dierckens via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
>>> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>>
>>> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and
>>> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>>
>>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct
>>>> link
>>> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen
>>>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone
>>>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information
>>>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post
>>>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this
>>>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
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>>>> Ashley Coleman
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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From jhud7789 at outlook.com  Thu Jul  3 18:38:12 2014
From: jhud7789 at outlook.com (Joeph Hudson)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 13:38:12 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <2ADB5C0F39CA40B4922DDBFAB21C9CDE@OwnerPC>
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	<53B55AE1.9090207@gmail.com>
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IBlink Radio is an app to your iPhone iPad or iPod.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 3, 2014, at 1:37 PM, "Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> iblink radio? what is that and where might I hear the coverage?
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Joe via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:15 PM
> To: 'Joeph Hudson' ; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
> 
> Hi, iBlink Radio will stream exhibit hall interviews, but not the general
> sessions. Coverage of interviews should start tomorrow. I could be wrong but
> think that's the memo.
> 
> --
> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
> 
> Visit my blog:
> http://joeorozco.com/blog
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joeph Hudson
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:09 PM
> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
> 
> Hi Ashley and all, I just tried to listen to it the iBlink Radio and I got
> an air something about the audio could not be found. In some time at home I
> have not tried any of the links are you off submitted to the list.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:44 AM, "Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I know that iBlink Radio on IOS devices is streaming it. If you have an
> iPhone or iPod. It might be a little easier for you.
>> Ashley
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/3/2014 10:31 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke wrote:
>>> Hi Ashley,
>>> 
>>> As I stated in my previous email, I am using Windows Media Player as
>>> I lost WinAmp when I got my new computer. I find it really
>>> interesting that there are so many problems with the online stream
>>> this year. I do not recall experiencing all these problems last year.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM
>>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>> 
>>> Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?
>>> 
>>>> On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>> Hi Mathew,
>>>> 
>>>> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out
>>>> I was trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed.
>>>> However, this was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to
>>>> reconnect to the stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that
>>>> it
>>> cannot open the file.
>>>> Not sure what is going on though.
>>>> 
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
>>>> Dierckens via nabs-l
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
>>>> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind
>>>> Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>>> 
>>>> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and
>>>> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
>>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>>> Blind Access Training
>>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct
>>>>> link
>>>> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>>>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>>>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen
>>>>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone
>>>>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information
>>>>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post
>>>>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this
>>>>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>> for
>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.
>>>>>> com
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> Ashley Coleman
>>>>> 
>>>>> Blinkie Chicks
>>>>> Social Media Manager
>>>>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>> nabs-l:
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>>>>> 40
>>>>> m
>>>>> e.com
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>>>> .c
>>>> om
>>> --
>>> Thank you
>>> Ashley Coleman
>>> 
>>> Blinkie Chicks
>>> Social Media Manager
>>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Thank you
>> Ashley Coleman
>> 
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>> Social Media Manager
>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>> 
>> 
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Thu Jul  3 18:38:29 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 14:38:29 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
In-Reply-To: <CE66A8ED164B4DCD86011D69EA58497A@robert9999b7cf>
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rj,
nabs seminar is recorded and you can download it later. David could not 
stream the elections and anything afterward due to phone battery issues.
But  it is recorded. no its not archived on the nfb site.

-----Original Message----- 
From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:23 PM
To: jsoro620 at gmail.com ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems

Will this stuff be archived? Who is the president of NABS? RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Joeph Hudson'" <jhud7789 at outlook.com>; "'National Association of Blind
Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems


> Hi, iBlink Radio will stream exhibit hall interviews, but not the general
> sessions. Coverage of interviews should start tomorrow. I could be wrong 
> but
> think that's the memo.
>
> --
> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>
> Visit my blog:
> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Joeph Hudson
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:09 PM
> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>
> Hi Ashley and all, I just tried to listen to it the iBlink Radio and I got
> an air something about the audio could not be found. In some time at home 
> I
> have not tried any of the links are you off submitted to the list.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:44 AM, "Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l"
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> I know that iBlink Radio on IOS devices is streaming it. If you have an
> iPhone or iPod. It might be a little easier for you.
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>>> On 7/3/2014 10:31 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke wrote:
>>> Hi Ashley,
>>>
>>> As I stated in my previous email, I am using Windows Media Player as
>>> I lost WinAmp when I got my new computer. I find it really
>>> interesting that there are so many problems with the online stream
>>> this year. I do not recall experiencing all these problems last year.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ashley and Landon Coleman [mailto:amc05111 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:26 AM
>>> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>>
>>> Elizabeth, what program are you trying to use?
>>>
>>>> On 7/3/2014 10:21 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>> Hi Mathew,
>>>>
>>>> I have been able to listen to only a few minutes once I figured out
>>>> I was trying to listen to the Spanish feed and not the English feed.
>>>> However, this was quite some time ago, and I have not been able to
>>>> reconnect to the stream. Windows Media Player keeps telling me that
>>>> it
>>> cannot open the file.
>>>> Not sure what is going on though.
>>>>
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
>>>> Dierckens via nabs-l
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 10:09 AM
>>>> To: Ashley and Landon Coleman; National Association of Blind
>>>> Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] NFB Online Streaming Problems
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone else getting a dead stream? I've tried links in safari and
>>>> in iTunes, and they're all dead.
>>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>>> Blind Access Training
>>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Ashley and Landon Coleman via nabs-l
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Elizabeth, here is the link to the main page. Look for the correct
>>>>> link
>>>> for you. There is spanish translation is below the English links.
>>>>> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/3/2014 9:23 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is anyone else besides me trying to listen in on the Board of
>>>>>> Directors meeting this morning? When I click on the link to listen
>>>>>> to the online stream, all I get is the Spanish translation. Anyone
>>>>>> else experiencing this issue? There is not any contact information
>>>>>> for any problems with the online stream, so thought I would post
>>>>>> this on the email list to see if anyone else was experiencing this
>>>>>> problem, and perhaps find someone who could resolve this issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>> for
>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/amc05111%40gmail.
>>>>>> com
>>>>> --
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> Ashley Coleman
>>>>>
>>>>> Blinkie Chicks
>>>>> Social Media Manager
>>>>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>> for
>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matt.dierckens%
>>>>> 40
>>>>> m
>>>>> e.com
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>>>> for
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>>>> ai
>>>> l.com
>>>>
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>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>> for
>>> nabs-l:
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>>>> .c
>>>> om
>>> --
>>> Thank you
>>> Ashley Coleman
>>>
>>> Blinkie Chicks
>>> Social Media Manager
>>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Thank you
>> Ashley Coleman
>>
>> Blinkie Chicks
>> Social Media Manager
>> http://www.blinkiechicks.com/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>> .com
>
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From dandrews at visi.com  Fri Jul  4 00:44:28 2014
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 19:44:28 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] [nfb-talk] stream having trouble
In-Reply-To: <D8E38293-32F5-4529-9E49-89EEFC401114@comcast.net>
References: <D8E38293-32F5-4529-9E49-89EEFC401114@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000160366978@mailfront3.g2host.com>

You, and Peter, and most others automatically seem to assume that it 
is the NFB's fault.  This isn't necessarily so, and I don't think it 
does anyone any good to speculate in the absence of information.

I too wish the Stream was better, but will not use it as an 
opportunity to throw rocks or take cheap shots at the NFB.  They are 
trying to do it right -- and I don't know why they seem to have such 
bad luck at it!

Dave

At 09:07 AM 7/3/2014, you wrote:
>It appears the NFB convention stream is down or having issues.  This 
>happens almost every year.  Seems they underestimated the number of 
>machines they would need to support or else they don't have enough 
>band width.  CAn anybody tell me, (even if it is a guess) why they 
>seem never able to get it right?
>
>
>Sincerely,
>the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
>Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>blind built-in!
>

         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org



From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Fri Jul  4 01:03:46 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 21:03:46 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] [nfb-talk] stream having trouble
In-Reply-To: <auto-000160366978@mailfront3.g2host.com>
References: <D8E38293-32F5-4529-9E49-89EEFC401114@comcast.net>
	<auto-000160366978@mailfront3.g2host.com>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS332FF9A05B727308725D343BA000@phx.gbl>

Hello David,

I apologize if any of my messages to the email list regarding the online
stream of the convention came across this way. Even though I can only
speculate what may have gone wrong, I definitely see some areas which could
be improved, and plan to do my best to offer my opinions as well as any
other assistance that could help improve things for next year. In year's
past, it seems like they have always been able to resolve any issues related
to the online stream, so perhaps they may have been trouble shooting after
the meeting to find a solution to today's problems.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:44 PM
To: Ray Foret Jr; NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [nfb-talk] stream having trouble

You, and Peter, and most others automatically seem to assume that it is the
NFB's fault.  This isn't necessarily so, and I don't think it does anyone
any good to speculate in the absence of information.

I too wish the Stream was better, but will not use it as an opportunity to
throw rocks or take cheap shots at the NFB.  They are trying to do it right
-- and I don't know why they seem to have such bad luck at it!

Dave

At 09:07 AM 7/3/2014, you wrote:
>It appears the NFB convention stream is down or having issues.  This 
>happens almost every year.  Seems they underestimated the number of 
>machines they would need to support or else they don't have enough band 
>width.  CAn anybody tell me, (even if it is a guess) why they seem 
>never able to get it right?
>
>
>Sincerely,
>the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
>Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>blind built-in!
>

         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org


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From donovan303503 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  4 05:06:48 2014
From: donovan303503 at gmail.com (Donovan Osborn)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 22:06:48 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Mobile: Microsoft WindowsPhone
In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20140702140011.05248c20@comcast.net>
References: <8484CF2F-B975-4C3D-ACFA-2E577B57BFE6@gmail.com>
	<F42A21C70ED04392B4AD584A87FB60A6@OwnerPC>
	<B52F5162-430E-4D90-83D8-821CF345E35E@gmail.com>
	<7.0.1.0.2.20140702140011.05248c20@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <028201cf9745$c37de8a0$4a79b9e0$@gmail.com>

I was in the Computer Science meeting tonight and they had mentioned that
Microsoft will be speaking in one of the general sessions. However, I don't
remember what they will be talking about. I suggest emailing the president
of that group. 

Anyways, that's what I know.
Goodnight

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Robin via
nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:06 PM
To: Mary Fernandez; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] Mobile: Microsoft WindowsPhone

Does anyone know whether Microsoft will be demonstrating at This Year's NFB
2014 National convention? I hear through the grapevine that Microsoft will
be demonstrating at This year's ACB 2014 National Convention, and I am
wondering whether or not they will be at the NFB's Convention as well .

I am very much intrested in the Demonstrations of Microsoft Accessibility as
it pertains to Narrator on Windows 8.1 & WindowsPhone 8.1.

Is there anyone else on this list interested? Just Curious. 


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From jim.hulme at gmail.com  Fri Jul  4 16:14:05 2014
From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 12:14:05 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] [nfb-talk] stream having trouble continues on iBlink
 Radio on Android
Message-ID: <CAKMC2e5S04J9j8vjHPskr69vK04QNjNRxKA0m3NtPoaNOADkAQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,


While David Dunphy works diligently on this Fourth of July to get the
stream back up and working, throughout the weekend, you can listen to thes
tream and convention coverage courtesy of SeroTalk by downloading iBlink
Radio and other apps on your Android Smartphone and listening to the stream
in that manner. You can hit either "pause" or "play" at anytime to either
pause or play the convention stream. Please enjoy the rest of the weekend
coverage and start listening Android users. The last part was Mr. John
Bergren with an iPhone app demonstration and his presentation on technology
if you happen to e following via the agenda. Please enjoy the convention. I
know I will just by listening at home. Have a Happy Fourth of July 2014!!!


Please find David Dunphy on Twitter: @CrazyYetFun2014 or on Twitter:
@NFB_Voice or follow with the hashtag #nfb14

Follow me on Twitter @JimHulmeLookout



James Hulme
908-868-2836 (Mobile)
jim.hulme at gmail.com

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hello David,
>
> I apologize if any of my messages to the email list regarding the online
> stream of the convention came across this way. Even though I can only
> speculate what may have gone wrong, I definitely see some areas which could
> be improved, and plan to do my best to offer my opinions as well as any
> other assistance that could help improve things for next year. In year's
> past, it seems like they have always been able to resolve any issues
> related
> to the online stream, so perhaps they may have been trouble shooting after
> the meeting to find a solution to today's problems.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:44 PM
> To: Ray Foret Jr; NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [nfb-talk] stream having trouble
>
> You, and Peter, and most others automatically seem to assume that it is the
> NFB's fault.  This isn't necessarily so, and I don't think it does anyone
> any good to speculate in the absence of information.
>
> I too wish the Stream was better, but will not use it as an opportunity to
> throw rocks or take cheap shots at the NFB.  They are trying to do it right
> -- and I don't know why they seem to have such bad luck at it!
>
> Dave
>
> At 09:07 AM 7/3/2014, you wrote:
> >It appears the NFB convention stream is down or having issues.  This
> >happens almost every year.  Seems they underestimated the number of
> >machines they would need to support or else they don't have enough band
> >width.  CAn anybody tell me, (even if it is a guess) why they seem
> >never able to get it right?
> >
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> >Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> >blind built-in!
> >
>
>          David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
> E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Fri Jul  4 16:19:27 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 12:19:27 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Thank You for the Online Convention Stream
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

Yesterday it seems as though I started a thread on the email list regarding
the problems with the online convention stream. However, it appears as
though the problems everyone experienced yesterday during the business
meeting have been resolved as I was able to listen to this morning's general
session with absolutely no problem. Since there does not appear to be a way
to contact the people providing the online stream directly, I just wanted to
post a message thanking them for all of their hard work and dedication in
providing this online stream of the national convention. Thank you so much
for working hard to resolve the problems from yesterday to provide a higher
quality online stream for today. I understand things do not always go
according to plan, so thank you very much for providing this service for
those of us who are not able to attend national convention this year.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth


From jim.hulme at gmail.com  Fri Jul  4 16:24:25 2014
From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 12:24:25 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Thank You for the Online Convention Stream
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAKMC2e4DZ-p0de7DJxmmoBpuRWHje5QT3iqm_7OpzNtWUvBnxA@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for the excellent message from Liz Mohnke. You have clarified
some of my mistakes evidently. I just thought if in the meantime there
could be an alternate way of listening to the convention stream. I would
like to thank those who have provided the online stream for people who
cannot afford to attend national convention in Orlando, Florida this year.

Please enjoy the rest of the day!!

Happy Fourth of July!!!!


James Hulme
908-868-2836 (Mobile)
jim.hulme at gmail.com


On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Yesterday it seems as though I started a thread on the email list regarding
> the problems with the online convention stream. However, it appears as
> though the problems everyone experienced yesterday during the business
> meeting have been resolved as I was able to listen to this morning's
> general
> session with absolutely no problem. Since there does not appear to be a way
> to contact the people providing the online stream directly, I just wanted
> to
> post a message thanking them for all of their hard work and dedication in
> providing this online stream of the national convention. Thank you so much
> for working hard to resolve the problems from yesterday to provide a higher
> quality online stream for today. I understand things do not always go
> according to plan, so thank you very much for providing this service for
> those of us who are not able to attend national convention this year.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nabs-l:
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>

From dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com  Fri Jul  4 19:31:29 2014
From: dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com (Chris Nusbaum)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 15:31:29 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Thank You for the Online Convention Stream
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <969B5DB7-313E-4009-A099-6D2E9E6733BF@gmail.com>

Elizabeth,

Thank you very much for this message. I have forwarded it to John Bergren at the national office who is managing the stream.

Chris Nusbaum

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Yesterday it seems as though I started a thread on the email list regarding
> the problems with the online convention stream. However, it appears as
> though the problems everyone experienced yesterday during the business
> meeting have been resolved as I was able to listen to this morning's general
> session with absolutely no problem. Since there does not appear to be a way
> to contact the people providing the online stream directly, I just wanted to
> post a message thanking them for all of their hard work and dedication in
> providing this online stream of the national convention. Thank you so much
> for working hard to resolve the problems from yesterday to provide a higher
> quality online stream for today. I understand things do not always go
> according to plan, so thank you very much for providing this service for
> those of us who are not able to attend national convention this year.
> 
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dotkid.nusbaum%40gmail.com


From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Fri Jul  4 19:36:53 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 15:36:53 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] [nfb-talk] stream having trouble continues on iBlink
	Radio on Android
In-Reply-To: <CAKMC2e5S04J9j8vjHPskr69vK04QNjNRxKA0m3NtPoaNOADkAQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKMC2e5S04J9j8vjHPskr69vK04QNjNRxKA0m3NtPoaNOADkAQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3FD12268910F417DAB18234256C80F07@OwnerPC>

Hello,
The stream works much better today! I heard it loud and clear this morning 
and will start again now.
Took a break for a holiday lunch.

Enjoy. For those not with a smart phone, the serotek podcasts can be heard 
with coverage. I cannot figure out wether its streamed live, but on the 
website, I saw there's eight interviews at the convention exhibit hall.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: James Hulme via nabs-l
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 12:14 PM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [nfb-talk] stream having trouble continues on iBlink 
Radio on Android

Hello All,


While David Dunphy works diligently on this Fourth of July to get the
stream back up and working, throughout the weekend, you can listen to thes
tream and convention coverage courtesy of SeroTalk by downloading iBlink
Radio and other apps on your Android Smartphone and listening to the stream
in that manner. You can hit either "pause" or "play" at anytime to either
pause or play the convention stream. Please enjoy the rest of the weekend
coverage and start listening Android users. The last part was Mr. John
Bergren with an iPhone app demonstration and his presentation on technology
if you happen to e following via the agenda. Please enjoy the convention. I
know I will just by listening at home. Have a Happy Fourth of July 2014!!!


Please find David Dunphy on Twitter: @CrazyYetFun2014 or on Twitter:
@NFB_Voice or follow with the hashtag #nfb14

Follow me on Twitter @JimHulmeLookout



James Hulme
908-868-2836 (Mobile)
jim.hulme at gmail.com

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hello David,
>
> I apologize if any of my messages to the email list regarding the online
> stream of the convention came across this way. Even though I can only
> speculate what may have gone wrong, I definitely see some areas which 
> could
> be improved, and plan to do my best to offer my opinions as well as any
> other assistance that could help improve things for next year. In year's
> past, it seems like they have always been able to resolve any issues
> related
> to the online stream, so perhaps they may have been trouble shooting after
> the meeting to find a solution to today's problems.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Andrews
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 8:44 PM
> To: Ray Foret Jr; NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] [nfb-talk] stream having trouble
>
> You, and Peter, and most others automatically seem to assume that it is 
> the
> NFB's fault.  This isn't necessarily so, and I don't think it does anyone
> any good to speculate in the absence of information.
>
> I too wish the Stream was better, but will not use it as an opportunity to
> throw rocks or take cheap shots at the NFB.  They are trying to do it 
> right
> -- and I don't know why they seem to have such bad luck at it!
>
> Dave
>
> At 09:07 AM 7/3/2014, you wrote:
> >It appears the NFB convention stream is down or having issues.  This
> >happens almost every year.  Seems they underestimated the number of
> >machines they would need to support or else they don't have enough band
> >width.  CAn anybody tell me, (even if it is a guess) why they seem
> >never able to get it right?
> >
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user!
> >Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the
> >blind built-in!
> >
>
>          David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
> E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Fri Jul  4 19:38:47 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 15:38:47 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Thank You for the Online Convention Stream
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <887C0590D28547FB8EFDBB5271B0BB6B@OwnerPC>

hello,
I second that! I had a wonderful experience this moring with the stream.
I felt like I was there from hearing the cheering crowd to Diane announcing 
the door prizes. the morning concluded with a presentation about the new nfb 
ap.
Do listen to the archives on the website if you missed todays presentations.
Great info out there.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 12:19 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list' ; 'NFB of Michigan 
Internet Mailing List'
Subject: [nabs-l] Thank You for the Online Convention Stream

Hello All,

Yesterday it seems as though I started a thread on the email list regarding
the problems with the online convention stream. However, it appears as
though the problems everyone experienced yesterday during the business
meeting have been resolved as I was able to listen to this morning's general
session with absolutely no problem. Since there does not appear to be a way
to contact the people providing the online stream directly, I just wanted to
post a message thanking them for all of their hard work and dedication in
providing this online stream of the national convention. Thank you so much
for working hard to resolve the problems from yesterday to provide a higher
quality online stream for today. I understand things do not always go
according to plan, so thank you very much for providing this service for
those of us who are not able to attend national convention this year.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

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From internetradioentertainer at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 18:43:11 2014
From: internetradioentertainer at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 14:43:11 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Check Out The Performing Arts Division's Showcase Of
 Talent Competition Tonight Live
In-Reply-To: <969B5DB7-313E-4009-A099-6D2E9E6733BF@gmail.com>
References: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl>
	<969B5DB7-313E-4009-A099-6D2E9E6733BF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <53B8473F.2000709@gmail.com>

Hi All!
I wanted to advise those who are interested that the Performing Arts 
Division's showcase of talent will be streamed using spreaker starting 
tonight at 6:50PM eastern, with the actual talent show starting at 7 PM 
eastern.
To listen, go to
http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195
Going to the latest track heading, and you'll see a link for the live 
program once it launches.
It will be aired/streamed again at a date to be announced for those who 
can't make it tonight.
Enjoy!
 From David Dunphy


From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 19:02:19 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 15:02:19 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Check Out The Performing Arts Division's Showcase Of
	Talent Competition Tonight Live
References: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl><969B5DB7-313E-4009-A099-6D2E9E6733BF@gmail.com>
	<53B8473F.2000709@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CC000738743A4EA8A380339A73EB7A96@robert9999b7cf>

When will the bankquate begin? RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Dunphy via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>; "National Association of 
Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:43 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Check Out The Performing Arts Division's Showcase Of 
Talent Competition Tonight Live


> Hi All!
> I wanted to advise those who are interested that the Performing Arts 
> Division's showcase of talent will be streamed using spreaker starting 
> tonight at 6:50PM eastern, with the actual talent show starting at 7 PM 
> eastern.
> To listen, go to
> http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195
> Going to the latest track heading, and you'll see a link for the live 
> program once it launches.
> It will be aired/streamed again at a date to be announced for those who 
> can't make it tonight.
> Enjoy!
> From David Dunphy
>
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From internetradioentertainer at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 19:15:31 2014
From: internetradioentertainer at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 15:15:31 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
In-Reply-To: <5DA287816758466F9E73E8D6BB366E5F@OwnerPC>
References: <53B48E4F.6080804@tysdomain.com><COL402-EAS146CEC8BB3CB2AB2AA1A6CBA060@phx.gbl>	<00b401cf964a$26e23920$74a6ab60$@gmail.com><86D0E795A7D940C1A2DEE1E57C74EEDD@robert9999b7cf>	<003501cf964c$f7ccd1b0$e7667510$@gmail.com><CCABA043A5D04737BC7B90866CCCA52C@MikePC>	<53B49700.8040907@tysdomain.com>
	<5DA287816758466F9E73E8D6BB366E5F@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <53B84ED3.8060606@gmail.com>

Glad you enjoyed it smile
On 7/2/2014 8:51 PM, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l wrote:
> thanks, this works in internet explorer! also very good sound quality.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:34 PM
> To: Michael Capelle ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>
> I think the problem is that it's wrapping. try this:
> http://bit.ly/TPXgGh
> HTH,
> On 7/2/2014 7:28 PM, Michael Capelle via nabs-l wrote:
>> hello, this also is not working what so ever.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Ryan Bishop via nabs-l
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:25 PM
>> To: 'RJ Sandefur' ; 'National Association of Blind Students mailing 
>> list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>
>> Try this
>> http://www.spreaker.com/page#!/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-fo 
>>
>> r-nfb14?autoplay=1
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ 
>> Sandefur via
>> nabs-l
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:24 PM
>> To: jsoro620 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students 
>> mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>
>> It's not playing. RJ
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joe via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'Elizabeth Mohnke'" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>; "'National 
>> Association of
>> Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>
>>
>>> Here it is, playing now:
>>>
>>> http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195/the-nabs-business-meeting-for
>>> -nfb14
>>> ?autoplay=1
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>>>
>>> Visit my blog:
>>> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
>>> Mohnke via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:01 PM
>>> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; 'National Association of Blind Students
>>> mailing list'
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>>
>>> Hi Tyler,
>>>
>>> I saw a link was posted on Twitter a while ago, but whenever I click
>>> on it, all I get are the microphone tests. I sent a private email to
>>> David about this, and I have not heard anything back from him yet. The
>>> meeting is set to begin at 7:00 pm eastern time, and I was going to
>>> check the link again to see if it works. It I thought it would be best
>>> to only post something if the link is indeed working.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Littlefield, Tyler via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 6:57 PM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] nabs broadcast
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>> I'm sorry for beating the dead horse on this topic. I remember seeing
>>> the time was at 7:30 for the broadcast (I think): has anyone announced
>>> a tunein link? I was sort of intrested in tuning in, but I don't know
>>> if I missed anything.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Take care,
>>> Ty
>>> http://tds-solutions.net
>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool;
>>> he that dares not reason is a slave.
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksandefur%40gm 
>>
>> ail.com
>>
>>
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>>
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From oliver.doug1 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  5 21:40:32 2014
From: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com (Doug Oliver)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 16:40:32 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Check Out The Performing Arts Division's Showcase Of
	Talent Competition Tonight Live
In-Reply-To: <53B8473F.2000709@gmail.com>
References: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl><969B5DB7-313E-4009-A099-6D2E9E6733BF@gmail.com>
	<53B8473F.2000709@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <344F0FE5211E441896F8B9539E1A55F0@Doliver>

I'll check it out.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Dunphy via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>; "National Association of 
Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 1:43 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Check Out The Performing Arts Division's Showcase Of 
Talent Competition Tonight Live


> Hi All!
> I wanted to advise those who are interested that the Performing Arts 
> Division's showcase of talent will be streamed using spreaker starting 
> tonight at 6:50PM eastern, with the actual talent show starting at 7 PM 
> eastern.
> To listen, go to
> http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195
> Going to the latest track heading, and you'll see a link for the live 
> program once it launches.
> It will be aired/streamed again at a date to be announced for those who 
> can't make it tonight.
> Enjoy!
> From David Dunphy
>
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Sat Jul  5 23:21:19 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:21:19 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Check Out The Performing Arts Division's Showcase
	OfTalent Competition Tonight Live
In-Reply-To: <CC000738743A4EA8A380339A73EB7A96@robert9999b7cf>
References: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl><969B5DB7-313E-4009-A099-6D2E9E6733BF@gmail.com><53B8473F.2000709@gmail.com>
	<CC000738743A4EA8A380339A73EB7A96@robert9999b7cf>
Message-ID: <535597AE2C5144E4A16DFC40860E68A9@OwnerPC>

that info is on the website. banquet is tomorrow 7pm.

-----Original Message----- 
From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 3:02 PM
To: David Dunphy ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Check Out The Performing Arts Division's Showcase 
OfTalent Competition Tonight Live

When will the bankquate begin? RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Dunphy via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com>; "National Association of
Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:43 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Check Out The Performing Arts Division's Showcase Of
Talent Competition Tonight Live


> Hi All!
> I wanted to advise those who are interested that the Performing Arts 
> Division's showcase of talent will be streamed using spreaker starting 
> tonight at 6:50PM eastern, with the actual talent show starting at 7 PM 
> eastern.
> To listen, go to
> http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195
> Going to the latest track heading, and you'll see a link for the live 
> program once it launches.
> It will be aired/streamed again at a date to be announced for those who 
> can't make it tonight.
> Enjoy!
> From David Dunphy
>
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Sat Jul  5 23:26:41 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:26:41 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Check Out The Performing Arts Division's Showcase Of
	Talent Competition Tonight Live
In-Reply-To: <53B8473F.2000709@gmail.com>
References: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl><969B5DB7-313E-4009-A099-6D2E9E6733BF@gmail.com>
	<53B8473F.2000709@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <212D2C3A1C8D48A4A74226268DB4EA1E@OwnerPC>

thanks David, I'll have a listen.

-----Original Message----- 
From: David Dunphy via nabs-l
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:43 PM
To: Chris Nusbaum ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] Check Out The Performing Arts Division's Showcase Of 
Talent Competition Tonight Live

Hi All!
I wanted to advise those who are interested that the Performing Arts
Division's showcase of talent will be streamed using spreaker starting
tonight at 6:50PM eastern, with the actual talent show starting at 7 PM
eastern.
To listen, go to
http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195
Going to the latest track heading, and you'll see a link for the live
program once it launches.
It will be aired/streamed again at a date to be announced for those who
can't make it tonight.
Enjoy!
>From David Dunphy

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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Sat Jul  5 23:35:15 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:35:15 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Check Out The Performing Arts Division's Showcase Of
	Talent Competition Tonight Live
In-Reply-To: <53B8473F.2000709@gmail.com>
References: <COL402-EAS98D4DCCA09714B4F8BF987BA000@phx.gbl><969B5DB7-313E-4009-A099-6D2E9E6733BF@gmail.com>
	<53B8473F.2000709@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4988D494984641FC9F38488B194CD018@OwnerPC>

hi,
I clicked on  the performing arts meeting link after the heading.
Nothing played. Is there anything else I need to click on? I use internet 
explorer.
I tried clicking on a few links below that and nothing happened but it took 
me to other pages of the website.

Thanks for any help.

-----Original Message----- 
From: David Dunphy via nabs-l
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 2:43 PM
To: Chris Nusbaum ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] Check Out The Performing Arts Division's Showcase Of 
Talent Competition Tonight Live

Hi All!
I wanted to advise those who are interested that the Performing Arts
Division's showcase of talent will be streamed using spreaker starting
tonight at 6:50PM eastern, with the actual talent show starting at 7 PM
eastern.
To listen, go to
http://www.spreaker.com/user/theglobe195
Going to the latest track heading, and you'll see a link for the live
program once it launches.
It will be aired/streamed again at a date to be announced for those who
can't make it tonight.
Enjoy!
>From David Dunphy

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From jty727 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  6 20:25:40 2014
From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 16:25:40 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
Message-ID: <CA+3U9s5dg+o0=prUDhT+tsGMRw0yNB5apCzSM-0uUOXUprgUoA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello:

I have tried listening to the stream of the National Convention a few
times and have found it is in Spanish.  I appreciate this feature for
those speak that language, but I don't speak it.  Therefore, I was
wondering if there was a way to listen to the stream in English?

Thanks,

Justin


From jty727 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  6 20:43:36 2014
From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 16:43:36 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Question Answered
Message-ID: <CA+3U9s61nhPaGbjE+iSgQV+xg7YNnzLir-XV-5PA+O7sJzuatg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Again,

I answered the question by looking closer.  Thanks & happy 2014 Convention!


From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  6 20:47:02 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 16:47:02 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
In-Reply-To: <CA+3U9s5dg+o0=prUDhT+tsGMRw0yNB5apCzSM-0uUOXUprgUoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+3U9s5dg+o0=prUDhT+tsGMRw0yNB5apCzSM-0uUOXUprgUoA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6080CC87-53D5-49C7-B8EF-446FC3BC141D@gmail.com>

Hi Justin! How are you?  I just wanted to ask you, can you send me the link in Spanish of the stream of the National Convention? I'm just wondering since I speak spanish and I would like to listen to it in Spanish! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!! :) 

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT) 


Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jul 6, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Justin Young via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> I have tried listening to the stream of the National Convention a few
> times and have found it is in Spanish.  I appreciate this feature for
> those speak that language, but I don't speak it.  Therefore, I was
> wondering if there was a way to listen to the stream in English?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Justin
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Sun Jul  6 20:56:46 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 16:56:46 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
References: <CA+3U9s5dg+o0=prUDhT+tsGMRw0yNB5apCzSM-0uUOXUprgUoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6080CC87-53D5-49C7-B8EF-446FC3BC141D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AEE7AC92C8D84169BC37327319CB4950@robert9999b7cf>

I thought you were at convention Helga. RJs
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "Justin Young" <jty727 at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind 
Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?


> Hi Justin! How are you?  I just wanted to ask you, can you send me the 
> link in Spanish of the stream of the National Convention? I'm just 
> wondering since I speak spanish and I would like to listen to it in 
> Spanish! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!! :)
>
> Helga Schreiber
>
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
> Blind Students
> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>
>
> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Justin Young via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello:
>>
>> I have tried listening to the stream of the National Convention a few
>> times and have found it is in Spanish.  I appreciate this feature for
>> those speak that language, but I don't speak it.  Therefore, I was
>> wondering if there was a way to listen to the stream in English?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>
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From jty727 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  6 21:06:25 2014
From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 17:06:25 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
In-Reply-To: <AEE7AC92C8D84169BC37327319CB4950@robert9999b7cf>
References: <CA+3U9s5dg+o0=prUDhT+tsGMRw0yNB5apCzSM-0uUOXUprgUoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6080CC87-53D5-49C7-B8EF-446FC3BC141D@gmail.com>
	<AEE7AC92C8D84169BC37327319CB4950@robert9999b7cf>
Message-ID: <CA+3U9s55CUJ5zZmd5RnVGOn-mKenwY8gLW09yHL9Nr1dM-Udvg@mail.gmail.com>

Its the following link:

https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule

The English version of the stream is accessed via the links directly
above the Spanish ones which I didn't realize, haha!

You won't hear anything again until about 7pm when the banquet begins.

Enjoy!

Justin

On 7/6/14, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I thought you were at convention Helga. RJs
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Justin Young" <jty727 at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind
> Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
>
>
>> Hi Justin! How are you?  I just wanted to ask you, can you send me the
>> link in Spanish of the stream of the National Convention? I'm just
>> wondering since I speak spanish and I would like to listen to it in
>> Spanish! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!! :)
>>
>> Helga Schreiber
>>
>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>>
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
>> Blind Students
>> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>>
>>
>> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John
>> 3:16
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Justin Young via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> I have tried listening to the stream of the National Convention a few
>>> times and have found it is in Spanish.  I appreciate this feature for
>>> those speak that language, but I don't speak it.  Therefore, I was
>>> wondering if there was a way to listen to the stream in English?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
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>>
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>
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Sun Jul  6 21:38:00 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 17:38:00 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
In-Reply-To: <CA+3U9s5dg+o0=prUDhT+tsGMRw0yNB5apCzSM-0uUOXUprgUoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+3U9s5dg+o0=prUDhT+tsGMRw0yNB5apCzSM-0uUOXUprgUoA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7B534A8F72994385A07888D417F40F9A@OwnerPC>

yes, click the media player link of your choice above the spanish links. you 
simply clicked the wrong one.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Justin Young via nabs-l
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:25 PM
To: National list
Subject: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?

Hello:

I have tried listening to the stream of the National Convention a few
times and have found it is in Spanish.  I appreciate this feature for
those speak that language, but I don't speak it.  Therefore, I was
wondering if there was a way to listen to the stream in English?

Thanks,

Justin

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From lilrichie411 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  6 22:29:59 2014
From: lilrichie411 at gmail.com (Jordan Richardson)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 17:29:59 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Election
Message-ID: <F49C1930-DC6C-4153-8E2A-466A77AC2720@gmail.com>

Hey,

What were the results of the NABS election?

Thanks,
Jordan

Jordan Richardson 
Community Corps Member
Minnesota Reading Corps. |. AmeriCorps State & National 
Sent from my iPad


From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  6 23:56:22 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 19:56:22 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
In-Reply-To: <CA+3U9s55CUJ5zZmd5RnVGOn-mKenwY8gLW09yHL9Nr1dM-Udvg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+3U9s5dg+o0=prUDhT+tsGMRw0yNB5apCzSM-0uUOXUprgUoA@mail.gmail.com><6080CC87-53D5-49C7-B8EF-446FC3BC141D@gmail.com><AEE7AC92C8D84169BC37327319CB4950@robert9999b7cf>
	<CA+3U9s55CUJ5zZmd5RnVGOn-mKenwY8gLW09yHL9Nr1dM-Udvg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B911A291656A4D5FBA21930D8F5F9996@Helga>

Hi Justin and all! I just wanted to ask you, is the streaming of the banquet 
playing right now? I'm just wondring since I can't hear any of the 
sppeeches! yet. In fact, I actually listened to the for 15 minutes the 
banquet stream, and then they say that enjoy your dinner, and we will back 
to you later, but after that I haven't heard anything else yet! I just 
wanted to ask you, do you know at what time it will start again? Just 
wondering! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks and God bless! :)



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students
And member of The International Networkers Team (INT)

Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26


"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16

-----Original Message----- 
From: Justin Young
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 5:06 PM
To: RJ Sandefur ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Cc: Helga Schreiber
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?

Its the following link:

https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule

The English version of the stream is accessed via the links directly
above the Spanish ones which I didn't realize, haha!

You won't hear anything again until about 7pm when the banquet begins.

Enjoy!

Justin

On 7/6/14, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I thought you were at convention Helga. RJs
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Justin Young" <jty727 at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind
> Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
>
>
>> Hi Justin! How are you?  I just wanted to ask you, can you send me the
>> link in Spanish of the stream of the National Convention? I'm just
>> wondering since I speak spanish and I would like to listen to it in
>> Spanish! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!! :)
>>
>> Helga Schreiber
>>
>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>>
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
>> Blind Students
>> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>>
>>
>> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John
>> 3:16
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Justin Young via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> I have tried listening to the stream of the National Convention a few
>>> times and have found it is in Spanish.  I appreciate this feature for
>>> those speak that language, but I don't speak it.  Therefore, I was
>>> wondering if there was a way to listen to the stream in English?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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From jty727 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 00:07:42 2014
From: jty727 at gmail.com (Justin Young)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 20:07:42 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
In-Reply-To: <B911A291656A4D5FBA21930D8F5F9996@Helga>
References: <CA+3U9s5dg+o0=prUDhT+tsGMRw0yNB5apCzSM-0uUOXUprgUoA@mail.gmail.com>
	<6080CC87-53D5-49C7-B8EF-446FC3BC141D@gmail.com>
	<AEE7AC92C8D84169BC37327319CB4950@robert9999b7cf>
	<CA+3U9s55CUJ5zZmd5RnVGOn-mKenwY8gLW09yHL9Nr1dM-Udvg@mail.gmail.com>
	<B911A291656A4D5FBA21930D8F5F9996@Helga>
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No its not working as far as I know.  It just came on, but then went
out again.  I'm sure it will be back soon.

Justin

On 7/6/14, helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Justin and all! I just wanted to ask you, is the streaming of the banquet
>
> playing right now? I'm just wondring since I can't hear any of the
> sppeeches! yet. In fact, I actually listened to the for 15 minutes the
> banquet stream, and then they say that enjoy your dinner, and we will back
> to you later, but after that I haven't heard anything else yet! I just
> wanted to ask you, do you know at what time it will start again? Just
> wondering! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks and God bless! :)
>
>
>
> Helga Schreiber
>
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind
>
> Students
> And member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>
> Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever
>
> believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Young
> Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 5:06 PM
> To: RJ Sandefur ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Cc: Helga Schreiber
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
>
> Its the following link:
>
> https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule
>
> The English version of the stream is accessed via the links directly
> above the Spanish ones which I didn't realize, haha!
>
> You won't hear anything again until about 7pm when the banquet begins.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Justin
>
> On 7/6/14, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I thought you were at convention Helga. RJs
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Justin Young" <jty727 at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind
>> Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
>>
>>
>>> Hi Justin! How are you?  I just wanted to ask you, can you send me the
>>> link in Spanish of the stream of the National Convention? I'm just
>>> wondering since I speak spanish and I would like to listen to it in
>>> Spanish! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!! :)
>>>
>>> Helga Schreiber
>>>
>>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>>>
>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
>>> Blind Students
>>> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>>>
>>>
>>> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>>
>>>
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
>>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John
>>> 3:16
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Justin Young via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello:
>>>>
>>>> I have tried listening to the stream of the National Convention a few
>>>> times and have found it is in Spanish.  I appreciate this feature for
>>>> those speak that language, but I don't speak it.  Therefore, I was
>>>> wondering if there was a way to listen to the stream in English?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Mon Jul  7 03:59:17 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 23:59:17 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
In-Reply-To: <B911A291656A4D5FBA21930D8F5F9996@Helga>
References: <CA+3U9s5dg+o0=prUDhT+tsGMRw0yNB5apCzSM-0uUOXUprgUoA@mail.gmail.com><6080CC87-53D5-49C7-B8EF-446FC3BC141D@gmail.com><AEE7AC92C8D84169BC37327319CB4950@robert9999b7cf><CA+3U9s55CUJ5zZmd5RnVGOn-mKenwY8gLW09yHL9Nr1dM-Udvg@mail.gmail.com>
	<B911A291656A4D5FBA21930D8F5F9996@Helga>
Message-ID: <7D7AADB35DB745958C74DD7CD826A3F4@OwnerPC>

the banquet nearly lasted till 11:00 so perhaps your connection went down. 
as I was out tonight, I only heard the end but what I heard was good.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Helga via nabs-l
Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 7:56 PM
To: Justin Young ; RJ Sandefur ; National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?

Hi Justin and all! I just wanted to ask you, is the streaming of the banquet
playing right now? I'm just wondring since I can't hear any of the
sppeeches! yet. In fact, I actually listened to the for 15 minutes the
banquet stream, and then they say that enjoy your dinner, and we will back
to you later, but after that I haven't heard anything else yet! I just
wanted to ask you, do you know at what time it will start again? Just
wondering! Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks and God bless! :)



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind
Students
And member of The International Networkers Team (INT)

Phone: (561) 706-5950 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26


"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16

-----Original Message----- 
From: Justin Young
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 5:06 PM
To: RJ Sandefur ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Cc: Helga Schreiber
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?

Its the following link:

https://nfb.org/convention-streaming-schedule

The English version of the stream is accessed via the links directly
above the Spanish ones which I didn't realize, haha!

You won't hear anything again until about 7pm when the banquet begins.

Enjoy!

Justin

On 7/6/14, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I thought you were at convention Helga. RJs
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Justin Young" <jty727 at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind
> Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2014 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Stream for National Convention in English?
>
>
>> Hi Justin! How are you?  I just wanted to ask you, can you send me the
>> link in Spanish of the stream of the National Convention? I'm just
>> wondering since I speak spanish and I would like to listen to it in
>> Spanish! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!! :)
>>
>> Helga Schreiber
>>
>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>>
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
>> Blind Students
>> And member   of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>>
>>
>> Phone: (561) 706-5950     Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that
>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John
>> 3:16
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Justin Young via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> I have tried listening to the stream of the National Convention a few
>>> times and have found it is in Spanish.  I appreciate this feature for
>>> those speak that language, but I don't speak it.  Therefore, I was
>>> wondering if there was a way to listen to the stream in English?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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From ligne14 at verizon.net  Mon Jul  7 11:53:52 2014
From: ligne14 at verizon.net (sami osborne)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 07:53:52 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] The banquet at Convention last night
Message-ID: <0N8C00AMVBQNDMA0@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net>

Hi all,

I listened to the banquet stream last night on IBlink Radio and 
enjoyed it alot.

I especially enjoyed the speeches of Dr.  Maurer and Ray 
Kurzweil, as they motivate us blind people to be and accept who 
we are.
Also, congratulations to the scholarship winners, as some of 
them: Justin, Cindy, Rebecca and Candice I believe, oare on this 
list.  So congratulations to the 4 of you!

By the way, I had to go to bed right after the scholarship 
awards, what happened afterword? And do you know if it will be 
available to listen or download as an archive? I'm just 
wondering.

Also, what did you guys think of the banquet, whether you 
attended convention or listened to the stream?

Thanks,

Sami.


From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 12:02:28 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 08:02:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Independent Living Skills
Message-ID: <53ba8c89.c504ec0a.2fd8.ffffd5d5@mx.google.com>

Dear Students,

I hope everyone had a wonderful time at this year's national 
convention.  I'd like to discuss the topic of independent living 
skills.  As students we are sometimes not expected to perform as 
people think we should.  Last week my dad and I went to Subway so 
I could get some lunch before my exam.  I independently ordered 
my own sandwich which was turkey with mustard American cheese and 
tomatoes on Italian bread.  In the past I have been heating up my 
own food in the microwave.  Why do you think learning independent 
living skills is important? Hope to hear from you soon.


From louvins at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 12:17:41 2014
From: louvins at gmail.com (Joshua Hendrickson)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 07:17:41 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Independent Living Skills
In-Reply-To: <53ba8c89.c504ec0a.2fd8.ffffd5d5@mx.google.com>
References: <53ba8c89.c504ec0a.2fd8.ffffd5d5@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CADUoy9sWpojMeZyz91+L2jwb08L=zC7=1CtRw5q-acCDZB5k8w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, learning any kind of independent living skill is important because
you can do things yourself, and don't have to rely on other people for
help.  A good example is cutting my fingernails.  Since I am a guitar
player, I have to make sure my fingernails are relatively short.  I've
been cutting my own nails lately, since when my nails get to short, I
just want to do it myself.  My mom still does them for me sometimes,
but only because she can get them a little more even then I can, but I
can now cut my nails, and I don't keep cutting them to short.  Also,
,my mom is quicker than I am, but I know with practice, I'll get
better.  I can use the microwave myself, since I have braille labels
on it, and my mom and dad get soup in cans with those very nice pull
tops, you don't have to worry about using the can opener.  Hope
everyone had a great time at convention.

On 7/7/14, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Dear Students,
>
> I hope everyone had a wonderful time at this year's national
> convention.  I'd like to discuss the topic of independent living
> skills.  As students we are sometimes not expected to perform as
> people think we should.  Last week my dad and I went to Subway so
> I could get some lunch before my exam.  I independently ordered
> my own sandwich which was turkey with mustard American cheese and
> tomatoes on Italian bread.  In the past I have been heating up my
> own food in the microwave.  Why do you think learning independent
> living skills is important? Hope to hear from you soon.
>
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 13:53:20 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 09:53:20 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Independent Living Skills
References: <53ba8c89.c504ec0a.2fd8.ffffd5d5@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <30449779F99F4A2586F7800BC6841FFD@robert9999b7cf>

First, and formost,  you'd have a better chance of gaining and maintaining 
employment. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; <fabs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 8:02 AM
Subject: [nabs-l] Independent Living Skills


> Dear Students,
>
> I hope everyone had a wonderful time at this year's national convention. 
> I'd like to discuss the topic of independent living skills.  As students 
> we are sometimes not expected to perform as people think we should.  Last 
> week my dad and I went to Subway so I could get some lunch before my exam. 
> I independently ordered my own sandwich which was turkey with mustard 
> American cheese and tomatoes on Italian bread.  In the past I have been 
> heating up my own food in the microwave.  Why do you think learning 
> independent living skills is important? Hope to hear from you soon.
>
> _______________________________________________
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From alana.leonhardy at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 18:25:59 2014
From: alana.leonhardy at gmail.com (Alana Leonhardy)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:25:59 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] The banquet at Convention last night
In-Reply-To: <0N8C00AMVBQNDMA0@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0N8C00AMVBQNDMA0@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <433F4662-3703-42C2-B227-80B60278A121@gmail.com>

There were some more drawings and awards, then it was over. Getting to hear Dr. Maurer's last banquet address was an emotional experience for certain. 
Best, Alana 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2014, at 6:53, sami osborne via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I listened to the banquet stream last night on IBlink Radio and enjoyed it alot.
> 
> I especially enjoyed the speeches of Dr.  Maurer and Ray Kurzweil, as they motivate us blind people to be and accept who we are.
> Also, congratulations to the scholarship winners, as some of them: Justin, Cindy, Rebecca and Candice I believe, oare on this list.  So congratulations to the 4 of you!
> 
> By the way, I had to go to bed right after the scholarship awards, what happened afterword? And do you know if it will be available to listen or download as an archive? I'm just wondering.
> 
> Also, what did you guys think of the banquet, whether you attended convention or listened to the stream?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sami.
> 
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From jahmallovato at me.com  Mon Jul  7 19:11:19 2014
From: jahmallovato at me.com (Jahmal Lovato)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 14:11:19 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] The banquet at Convention last night
In-Reply-To: <433F4662-3703-42C2-B227-80B60278A121@gmail.com>
References: <0N8C00AMVBQNDMA0@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net>
	<433F4662-3703-42C2-B227-80B60278A121@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A0F79708-C56A-4CC5-AC9D-9FA73A192F00@me.com>

I actually cried when him and Rickobono brought the gavel down the way they did it together.  
I am glad, but never expected my first convention to be this historical   

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Alana Leonhardy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> There were some more drawings and awards, then it was over. Getting to hear Dr. Maurer's last banquet address was an emotional experience for certain. 
> Best, Alana 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 6:53, sami osborne via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I listened to the banquet stream last night on IBlink Radio and enjoyed it alot.
>> 
>> I especially enjoyed the speeches of Dr.  Maurer and Ray Kurzweil, as they motivate us blind people to be and accept who we are.
>> Also, congratulations to the scholarship winners, as some of them: Justin, Cindy, Rebecca and Candice I believe, oare on this list.  So congratulations to the 4 of you!
>> 
>> By the way, I had to go to bed right after the scholarship awards, what happened afterword? And do you know if it will be available to listen or download as an archive? I'm just wondering.
>> 
>> Also, what did you guys think of the banquet, whether you attended convention or listened to the stream?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Sami.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
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> 
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From djdan567 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 19:18:48 2014
From: djdan567 at gmail.com (Daniel Romero)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 15:18:48 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] After Convention
Message-ID: <4897E4DB-405B-46A7-A9D9-D2DB6527AD5D@gmail.com>

I honestly can't begin to tell you all how much fun I had at convention this year. I got to meet so many of you and that's fantastic in itself. Congrats to the NABS board winners of our most recent elections. I honestly feel this group has a great deal of leaders who are going to push this organization further than it's ever been before. It was such a good time, and I look forward to meeting lots more of you next year.
Don't do anything I wouldn't do, and remember, what happened in Orlando, never happened!

Sent from my iPhone

From rebeccajoyleon at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 21:27:15 2014
From: rebeccajoyleon at gmail.com (Rebecca Leon)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 17:27:15 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Election
In-Reply-To: <F49C1930-DC6C-4153-8E2A-466A77AC2720@gmail.com>
References: <F49C1930-DC6C-4153-8E2A-466A77AC2720@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DCEE5E16-A795-4535-BB46-F2856941154A@gmail.com>

The results were as follows:
Sean Whalen: Pres.
Gabe Cazares: second VP
Bre Brown: Sec.
Garrett Mooney: board member 2
Rebecca Leon: board member 3
Derek manners: board member 4
Briefly, thank you to all the student membership for your support in ellecting me. I am really thrilled and honored to hold this position.
Hope this helps,
Rebecca –


"The drop of rain maketh a hole in the stone, not by violence, but by oft falling."
-Hugh Latimer

> On 06/07/2014, at 18:29, Jordan Richardson via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> What were the results of the NABS election?
> 
> Thanks,
> Jordan
> 
> Jordan Richardson 
> Community Corps Member
> Minnesota Reading Corps. |. AmeriCorps State & National 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
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From sweetpeareader at gmail.com  Mon Jul  7 21:39:31 2014
From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (Sophie Trist)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 16:39:31 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Independent Living Skills
Message-ID: <53bb1399.2e1dec0a.2b32.3fa2@mx.google.com>

Hi Roanna and all,

The reason why blind people place so much emphasis on independent 
living skills is because we often lack them. I know this is true 
for me, and probably for others as well. I've lived a relatively 
sheltered life. My parents had done a lot for me, such as 
cooking, cleaning, washing clothes, etc. Sighted children can 
learn to do these things by watching their parents, but that 
doesn't work for us. Besides, some techniques that work great for 
sighties don't work for us. That's why it's important that we go 
to train centers like LCB and CCB to learn nonvisual independent 
living skills. And like RJ said, having these skills can lead to 
more positive college and employment experiences.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "Roanna Bacchus" <rbacchus228 at gmail.com>,"National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 09:53:20 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Independent Living Skills

First, and formost,  you'd have a better chance of gaining and 
maintaining
employment. RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>; <fabs at nfbnet.org
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 8:02 AM
Subject: [nabs-l] Independent Living Skills


 Dear Students,

 I hope everyone had a wonderful time at this year's national 
convention.
 I'd like to discuss the topic of independent living skills.  As 
students
 we are sometimes not expected to perform as people think we 
should.  Last
 week my dad and I went to Subway so I could get some lunch 
before my exam.
 I independently ordered my own sandwich which was turkey with 
mustard
 American cheese and tomatoes on Italian bread.  In the past I 
have been
 heating up my own food in the microwave.  Why do you think 
learning
 independent living skills is important? Hope to hear from you 
soon.

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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Tue Jul  8 02:15:20 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:15:20 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction
Message-ID: <EB24E7C2-431B-434D-81E1-599F0A834600@jd16.law.harvard.edu>

My name is Derek Manners and I was elected to the Board at the national convention. I'm a 26 year old second year law student at Harvard. I'm originally from Texas and Oklahoma. 

I have two goals for the next two years. The first is to increase our budget by reaching out to the private sector. 

The second is to figure out how to better reach blind college students. Despite being in Austin Texas, home to one of the most vibrant chapters, I had no idea the NFB or NABS existed. Granted some of this is my fault for not doing research and some of it is because Vocational Rehabilitation Services didn't bother telling me despite knowing about our organization.  Nevertheless, we have a lot to offer students so we need to figure out how to overcome these obstacles. 

If any of you have ideas about how to achieve our goals, make NABS better, or just want to talk about Law School, Public Service, politics or anything else feel free to shoot me an email privately. 

Best

Derek Manners

From theweird1 at mediacombb.net  Tue Jul  8 02:24:11 2014
From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 21:24:11 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction
In-Reply-To: <EB24E7C2-431B-434D-81E1-599F0A834600@jd16.law.harvard.edu>
References: <EB24E7C2-431B-434D-81E1-599F0A834600@jd16.law.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <000001cf9a53$b489da50$1d9d8ef0$@mediacombb.net>

Hi,  

Sorry, I don't see your email.  I am an older student a year more than twice
your age.  To my knowledge, there is no nabs chapter here in the state.
Anyway, If you like, you can email offlist as well.  

My email address is:  theweird1 at mediacombb.net  

Loren 



-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Derek Manners
via nabs-l
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 9:15 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction

My name is Derek Manners and I was elected to the Board at the national
convention. I'm a 26 year old second year law student at Harvard. I'm
originally from Texas and Oklahoma. 

I have two goals for the next two years. The first is to increase our budget
by reaching out to the private sector. 

The second is to figure out how to better reach blind college students.
Despite being in Austin Texas, home to one of the most vibrant chapters, I
had no idea the NFB or NABS existed. Granted some of this is my fault for
not doing research and some of it is because Vocational Rehabilitation
Services didn't bother telling me despite knowing about our organization.
Nevertheless, we have a lot to offer students so we need to figure out how
to overcome these obstacles. 

If any of you have ideas about how to achieve our goals, make NABS better,
or just want to talk about Law School, Public Service, politics or anything
else feel free to shoot me an email privately. 

Best

Derek Manners
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Tue Jul  8 02:29:15 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:29:15 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction
In-Reply-To: <EB24E7C2-431B-434D-81E1-599F0A834600@jd16.law.harvard.edu>
References: <EB24E7C2-431B-434D-81E1-599F0A834600@jd16.law.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <266F9F21C1B4472AB9C2064FA5EC5DA4@OwnerPC>

Derek,
welcome. I'm not a student but may go back to take an elective or two at 
community college; I say community college because its cheaper. I have a 
liberal arts degree already and am career exploring.

Tell us your email address so we can write off list; its not in the from 
field because our list had settings changed so email would not look like 
spam.

Enjoy the list.
Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Derek Manners via nabs-l
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:15 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction

My name is Derek Manners and I was elected to the Board at the national 
convention. I'm a 26 year old second year law student at Harvard. I'm 
originally from Texas and Oklahoma.

I have two goals for the next two years. The first is to increase our budget 
by reaching out to the private sector.

The second is to figure out how to better reach blind college students. 
Despite being in Austin Texas, home to one of the most vibrant chapters, I 
had no idea the NFB or NABS existed. Granted some of this is my fault for 
not doing research and some of it is because Vocational Rehabilitation 
Services didn't bother telling me despite knowing about our organization. 
Nevertheless, we have a lot to offer students so we need to figure out how 
to overcome these obstacles.

If any of you have ideas about how to achieve our goals, make NABS better, 
or just want to talk about Law School, Public Service, politics or anything 
else feel free to shoot me an email privately.

Best

Derek Manners
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From joy.misto at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 02:29:34 2014
From: joy.misto at gmail.com (Jpy Mistovich)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:29:34 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Considering bism
Message-ID: <CC15F5FE-A740-4688-B315-40603000105F@gmail.com>

Hi everyone, I've been considering going to bism for training  in the core program. Can any of you who have participated in the program  tell me about  your experiences? 
Thanks, joy

Sent from my iPad

From arielle71 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 02:54:33 2014
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 19:54:33 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction
In-Reply-To: <266F9F21C1B4472AB9C2064FA5EC5DA4@OwnerPC>
References: <EB24E7C2-431B-434D-81E1-599F0A834600@jd16.law.harvard.edu>
	<266F9F21C1B4472AB9C2064FA5EC5DA4@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <CALAYQJBg55f8nPuw9kMQASzUO0rTYAvxtcM9CmWDPRxRP=iUWQ@mail.gmail.com>

Derek's email address appears in the "reply-to" field, which in Gmail
is just below the From field. It is:
dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu

Best,
Arielle

On 7/7/14, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Derek,
> welcome. I'm not a student but may go back to take an elective or two at
> community college; I say community college because its cheaper. I have a
> liberal arts degree already and am career exploring.
>
> Tell us your email address so we can write off list; its not in the from
> field because our list had settings changed so email would not look like
> spam.
>
> Enjoy the list.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Derek Manners via nabs-l
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2014 10:15 PM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction
>
> My name is Derek Manners and I was elected to the Board at the national
> convention. I'm a 26 year old second year law student at Harvard. I'm
> originally from Texas and Oklahoma.
>
> I have two goals for the next two years. The first is to increase our budget
>
> by reaching out to the private sector.
>
> The second is to figure out how to better reach blind college students.
> Despite being in Austin Texas, home to one of the most vibrant chapters, I
> had no idea the NFB or NABS existed. Granted some of this is my fault for
> not doing research and some of it is because Vocational Rehabilitation
> Services didn't bother telling me despite knowing about our organization.
> Nevertheless, we have a lot to offer students so we need to figure out how
> to overcome these obstacles.
>
> If any of you have ideas about how to achieve our goals, make NABS better,
> or just want to talk about Law School, Public Service, politics or anything
>
> else feel free to shoot me an email privately.
>
> Best
>
> Derek Manners
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From arielle71 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 03:36:48 2014
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 20:36:48 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] NABS Election
In-Reply-To: <DCEE5E16-A795-4535-BB46-F2856941154A@gmail.com>
References: <F49C1930-DC6C-4153-8E2A-466A77AC2720@gmail.com>
	<DCEE5E16-A795-4535-BB46-F2856941154A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALAYQJC_VX-TVdO6f_N1sqex8d2kFXo1MpS=1mPLNk1U_WNdJw@mail.gmail.com>

... And Karen Anderson (first VP), Candice Chapman (treasurer), and
Cody Bair (board #1) are holding over from last year's election.
Congratulations to the board!
Arielle

On 7/7/14, Rebecca Leon via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> The results were as follows:
> Sean Whalen: Pres.
> Gabe Cazares: second VP
> Bre Brown: Sec.
> Garrett Mooney: board member 2
> Rebecca Leon: board member 3
> Derek manners: board member 4
> Briefly, thank you to all the student membership for your support in
> ellecting me. I am really thrilled and honored to hold this position.
> Hope this helps,
> Rebecca –
>
>
> "The drop of rain maketh a hole in the stone, not by violence, but by oft
> falling."
> -Hugh Latimer
>
>> On 06/07/2014, at 18:29, Jordan Richardson via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey,
>>
>> What were the results of the NABS election?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jordan
>>
>> Jordan Richardson
>> Community Corps Member
>> Minnesota Reading Corps. |. AmeriCorps State & National
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Tue Jul  8 03:37:51 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 23:37:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] My email
Message-ID: <7FBA9448-1DEC-451D-9592-183B44D73384@jd16.law.harvard.edu>

I've been informed that my email doesn't appear when I use the list serve. I can be reached at Derekmanners at gmail.com

Best
Derek

Sent from my iPhone

From arielle71 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 03:53:36 2014
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 20:53:36 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] The banquet at Convention last night
In-Reply-To: <A0F79708-C56A-4CC5-AC9D-9FA73A192F00@me.com>
References: <0N8C00AMVBQNDMA0@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net>
	<433F4662-3703-42C2-B227-80B60278A121@gmail.com>
	<A0F79708-C56A-4CC5-AC9D-9FA73A192F00@me.com>
Message-ID: <CALAYQJBXPG5uDd=xx5QbNFWYbkXwSnpNgR1+9aC1qC9oEif97A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I left the convention on Saturday evening so I would have some time to
rest and prepare for my new job that started today. It was a bit
strange listening to the banquet address in my kitchen at home while
preparing dinner for my husband and myself. In fact, it was a little
ironic to be navigating the kitchen and cooking with ease while Dr.
Maurer discussed the "how to feed a blind person" article on EHow. Yet
it helped me realize that I was able to cook independently,
efficiently and safely because of the training I received at LCB and
the mentorship I have gotten from fellow NFB members. Having been an
active NFB member for eleven years now, I can tend to forget or take
for granted how much I have been empowered by being a part of the NFB.
Another time I reflected on that was when I first got to the Orlando
airport and independently picked up my luggage from baggage claim. It
was such a mundane activity but one that my parents didn't expect me
to do as a blind person and something I had thought was not possible
to do efficiently until I joined the NFB. For some of us the NFB has a
huge momentous impact; for others of us it  impacts our lives in a lot
of small ways we sometimes don't even think about as we go through our
daily lives. I enjoy coming to convention every year to be reminded of
the vast network we have in the NFB and how much hope we can take from
it.
Best,
Arielle

On 7/7/14, Jahmal Lovato via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I actually cried when him and Rickobono brought the gavel down the way they
> did it together.
> I am glad, but never expected my first convention to be this historical
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Alana Leonhardy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> There were some more drawings and awards, then it was over. Getting to
>> hear Dr. Maurer's last banquet address was an emotional experience for
>> certain.
>> Best, Alana
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 6:53, sami osborne via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I listened to the banquet stream last night on IBlink Radio and enjoyed
>>> it alot.
>>>
>>> I especially enjoyed the speeches of Dr.  Maurer and Ray Kurzweil, as
>>> they motivate us blind people to be and accept who we are.
>>> Also, congratulations to the scholarship winners, as some of them:
>>> Justin, Cindy, Rebecca and Candice I believe, oare on this list.  So
>>> congratulations to the 4 of you!
>>>
>>> By the way, I had to go to bed right after the scholarship awards, what
>>> happened afterword? And do you know if it will be available to listen or
>>> download as an archive? I'm just wondering.
>>>
>>> Also, what did you guys think of the banquet, whether you attended
>>> convention or listened to the stream?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sami.
>>>
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From jahmallovato at me.com  Tue Jul  8 04:59:39 2014
From: jahmallovato at me.com (Jahmal Lovato)
Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2014 22:59:39 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
Message-ID: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com>

Hello list,
I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the discussion list.
I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class, and I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary education.
I won’t write my bio here, but I just thought I’d give a small intro and say hello.
Best,
Jahmal
—Musician
Voice coach. Recording artist.



From zdreicer at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 05:47:37 2014
From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 23:47:37 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
In-Reply-To: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com>
References: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com>
Message-ID: <AFEFEE82-83ED-4887-BEEE-5F52C163871E@gmail.com>

Good seeing u at convention dude call me

Sent from my iPhone 5S Using VoiceOver

> On Jul 7, 2014, at 22:59, Jahmal Lovato via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the discussion list.
> I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
> I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class, and I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary education.
> I won’t write my bio here, but I just thought I’d give a small intro and say hello.
> Best,
> Jahmal
> —Musician
> Voice coach. Recording artist.
> 
> 
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From johnniejduran at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 05:51:24 2014
From: johnniejduran at gmail.com (Johnnie Jean Duran)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 23:51:24 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
In-Reply-To: <AFEFEE82-83ED-4887-BEEE-5F52C163871E@gmail.com>
References: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com>
	<AFEFEE82-83ED-4887-BEEE-5F52C163871E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D8BF1D71-FD68-483B-92BB-4691DA117183@gmail.com>

Welcome to the nabs list. Good to see you here!
JJ

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2014, at 11:47 PM, "Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good seeing u at convention dude call me
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5S Using VoiceOver
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 22:59, Jahmal Lovato via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello list,
>> I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the discussion list.
>> I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
>> I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class, and I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary education.
>> I won’t write my bio here, but I just thought I’d give a small intro and say hello.
>> Best,
>> Jahmal
>> —Musician
>> Voice coach. Recording artist.
>> 
>> 
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From johnniejduran at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 05:54:14 2014
From: johnniejduran at gmail.com (Johnnie Jean Duran)
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 23:54:14 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction
In-Reply-To: <EB24E7C2-431B-434D-81E1-599F0A834600@jd16.law.harvard.edu>
References: <EB24E7C2-431B-434D-81E1-599F0A834600@jd16.law.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <38ADB58F-8E44-420F-BB5B-1EAB38D724CC@gmail.com>

Welcome! 
JJ

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Derek Manners via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> My name is Derek Manners and I was elected to the Board at the national convention. I'm a 26 year old second year law student at Harvard. I'm originally from Texas and Oklahoma. 
> 
> I have two goals for the next two years. The first is to increase our budget by reaching out to the private sector. 
> 
> The second is to figure out how to better reach blind college students. Despite being in Austin Texas, home to one of the most vibrant chapters, I had no idea the NFB or NABS existed. Granted some of this is my fault for not doing research and some of it is because Vocational Rehabilitation Services didn't bother telling me despite knowing about our organization.  Nevertheless, we have a lot to offer students so we need to figure out how to overcome these obstacles. 
> 
> If any of you have ideas about how to achieve our goals, make NABS better, or just want to talk about Law School, Public Service, politics or anything else feel free to shoot me an email privately. 
> 
> Best
> 
> Derek Manners
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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 13:38:47 2014
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 09:38:47 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
In-Reply-To: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com>
References: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com>
Message-ID: <022e01cf9ab1$f2773020$d7659060$@gmail.com>

Welcome, good to have you.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jahmal Lovato
via nabs-l
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:00 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
Importance: High

Hello list,
I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the discussion
list.
I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class, and
I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary
education.
I won't write my bio here, but I just thought I'd give a small intro and say
hello.
Best,
Jahmal
-Musician
Voice coach. Recording artist.


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From blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 14:13:28 2014
From: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com (blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:13:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
In-Reply-To: <022e01cf9ab1$f2773020$d7659060$@gmail.com>
References: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com>
	<022e01cf9ab1$f2773020$d7659060$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E78679D8-A70B-4724-BD20-A803D87E3BE2@gmail.com>

Welcome to the list, Jamal. I am Aleeha Dudley,, a zoology major at Miami University in Ohio. I hope you find this list useful.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:38 AM, justin williams via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Welcome, good to have you.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jahmal Lovato
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:00 AM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
> Importance: High
> 
> Hello list,
> I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the discussion
> list.
> I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
> I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class, and
> I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary
> education.
> I won't write my bio here, but I just thought I'd give a small intro and say
> hello.
> Best,
> Jahmal
> -Musician
> Voice coach. Recording artist.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From sasilviab at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 14:16:54 2014
From: sasilviab at gmail.com (Silvia)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:16:54 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
References: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com><022e01cf9ab1$f2773020$d7659060$@gmail.com>
	<E78679D8-A70B-4724-BD20-A803D87E3BE2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <86ACBE6BC1154800AB8F58CECC47B93A@user8473c41586>

hello list, my name is Silvia Buzzanco I am 22, and I just wanted to say 
that I am glad to be part of this list. I am going to be an undergrad 
student at the Porreco Center in Erie pa and then going to college at 
Edinboro Univercity studdieing Apply of Technology.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>; "National Association of 
Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello and intro


> Welcome to the list, Jamal. I am Aleeha Dudley,, a zoology major at Miami 
> University in Ohio. I hope you find this list useful.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:38 AM, justin williams via nabs-l 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Welcome, good to have you.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jahmal 
>> Lovato
>> via nabs-l
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:00 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
>> Importance: High
>>
>> Hello list,
>> I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the discussion
>> list.
>> I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
>> I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class, 
>> and
>> I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary
>> education.
>> I won't write my bio here, but I just thought I'd give a small intro and 
>> say
>> hello.
>> Best,
>> Jahmal
>> -Musician
>> Voice coach. Recording artist.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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>> .com
>>
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From chris.omeally at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 14:36:01 2014
From: chris.omeally at gmail.com (Christopher O'Meally)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:36:01 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
In-Reply-To: <E78679D8-A70B-4724-BD20-A803D87E3BE2@gmail.com>
References: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com>
	<022e01cf9ab1$f2773020$d7659060$@gmail.com>
	<E78679D8-A70B-4724-BD20-A803D87E3BE2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DE94D27F-3250-45F0-A6FF-6E67FA1026BC@gmail.com>

	welcome to the list.

My name is Christopher O'Meally, but people call me chris.

I graduated highschool in 2009 and am still in college working on computer related degrees.  

Christopher O'Meally
VABS Board member.
Founder of Access Tech Media.
Part time computer Instructer.

8046586668

chris.omeally at gmail.com
accesstechmedia at gmail.com
Personal twitter
@christopher2236
VABS twitter
@vabs_students
access tech media's twitter
@accesstechmedia.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Welcome to the list, Jamal. I am Aleeha Dudley,, a zoology major at Miami University in Ohio. I hope you find this list useful.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:38 AM, justin williams via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Welcome, good to have you.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jahmal Lovato
>> via nabs-l
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:00 AM
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
>> Importance: High
>> 
>> Hello list,
>> I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the discussion
>> list.
>> I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
>> I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class, and
>> I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary
>> education.
>> I won't write my bio here, but I just thought I'd give a small intro and say
>> hello.
>> Best,
>> Jahmal
>> -Musician
>> Voice coach. Recording artist.
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nabs-l:
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>> .com
>> 
>> 
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From sasilviab at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 14:40:03 2014
From: sasilviab at gmail.com (Silvia)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:40:03 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
References: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com><022e01cf9ab1$f2773020$d7659060$@gmail.com><E78679D8-A70B-4724-BD20-A803D87E3BE2@gmail.com>
	<DE94D27F-3250-45F0-A6FF-6E67FA1026BC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CDFF36F99973453480CF20C26099C1C7@user8473c41586>

Hello, My name is Silvia Buzzanco I am 22 and I am going to be an undergrad 
student at the porreco center in Erie PA and then going to Edinboro 
Univercity for my major of Apply of Technology.

phone: 814-860-4922

E mail: sasilviab at gmail.com

twitter: silbuzz
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher O'Meally via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello and intro


> welcome to the list.
>
> My name is Christopher O'Meally, but people call me chris.
>
> I graduated highschool in 2009 and am still in college working on computer 
> related degrees.
>
> Christopher O'Meally
> VABS Board member.
> Founder of Access Tech Media.
> Part time computer Instructer.
>
> 8046586668
>
> chris.omeally at gmail.com
> accesstechmedia at gmail.com
> Personal twitter
> @christopher2236
> VABS twitter
> @vabs_students
> access tech media's twitter
> @accesstechmedia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Welcome to the list, Jamal. I am Aleeha Dudley,, a zoology major at Miami 
>> University in Ohio. I hope you find this list useful.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:38 AM, justin williams via nabs-l 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome, good to have you.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jahmal 
>>> Lovato
>>> via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:00 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
>>> Importance: High
>>>
>>> Hello list,
>>> I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the 
>>> discussion
>>> list.
>>> I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
>>> I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class, 
>>> and
>>> I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary
>>> education.
>>> I won't write my bio here, but I just thought I'd give a small intro and 
>>> say
>>> hello.
>>> Best,
>>> Jahmal
>>> -Musician
>>> Voice coach. Recording artist.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail
>>> .com
>>>
>>>
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From blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 14:40:42 2014
From: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com (blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:40:42 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Introduction
In-Reply-To: <38ADB58F-8E44-420F-BB5B-1EAB38D724CC@gmail.com>
References: <EB24E7C2-431B-434D-81E1-599F0A834600@jd16.law.harvard.edu>
	<38ADB58F-8E44-420F-BB5B-1EAB38D724CC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A2ADB484-869C-4FA6-8A26-4EC58BEC4FFF@gmail.com>

Welcome to the list Derek. I am Aleeha Dudley, a zoology student at Miami University in Ohio. I am the Vice President of the Ohio Association of Blind Students. Congrats on your scholarship and election to the board.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 8, 2014, at 1:54 AM, Johnnie Jean Duran via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Welcome! 
> JJ
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Derek Manners via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> My name is Derek Manners and I was elected to the Board at the national convention. I'm a 26 year old second year law student at Harvard. I'm originally from Texas and Oklahoma. 
>> 
>> I have two goals for the next two years. The first is to increase our budget by reaching out to the private sector. 
>> 
>> The second is to figure out how to better reach blind college students. Despite being in Austin Texas, home to one of the most vibrant chapters, I had no idea the NFB or NABS existed. Granted some of this is my fault for not doing research and some of it is because Vocational Rehabilitation Services didn't bother telling me despite knowing about our organization.  Nevertheless, we have a lot to offer students so we need to figure out how to overcome these obstacles. 
>> 
>> If any of you have ideas about how to achieve our goals, make NABS better, or just want to talk about Law School, Public Service, politics or anything else feel free to shoot me an email privately. 
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Derek Manners
>> _______________________________________________
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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 16:02:19 2014
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:02:19 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] workshops
Message-ID: <005f01cf9ac5$ffceee20$ff6cca60$@gmail.com>

Are any of the workshops most notably the hims, knfb and ssi and ssdi
available? 

Thanks, 

Justin


From kcj21 at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul  8 16:23:07 2014
From: kcj21 at bellsouth.net (kcj21)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 09:23:07 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
In-Reply-To: <CDFF36F99973453480CF20C26099C1C7@user8473c41586>
References: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com><022e01cf9ab1$f2773020$d7659060$@gmail.com><E78679D8-A70B-4724-BD20-A803D87E3BE2@gmail.com>	<DE94D27F-3250-45F0-A6FF-6E67FA1026BC@gmail.com>
	<CDFF36F99973453480CF20C26099C1C7@user8473c41586>
Message-ID: <1404836587.11393.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi, My name is Kaley Jemison. I graduated from high school in 2012 and am a junior at The Harriet L. Wilkes Honors College of Florida Atlantic University where I am majoring in English Literature. Feel free to contact me off list at kcj21 at bellsouth.net 


On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 10:40 AM, Silvia via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
  


Hello, My name is Silvia Buzzanco I am 22 and I am going to be an undergrad 
student at the porreco center in Erie PA and then going to Edinboro 
Univercity for my major of Apply of Technology.

phone: 814-860-4922

E mail: sasilviab at gmail.com

twitter: silbuzz
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher O'Meally via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello and intro


> welcome to the list.
>
> My name is Christopher O'Meally, but people call me chris.
>
> I graduated highschool in 2009 and am still in college working on computer 
> related degrees.
>
> Christopher O'Meally
> VABS Board member.
> Founder of Access Tech Media.
> Part time computer Instructer.
>
> 8046586668
>
> chris.omeally at gmail.com
> accesstechmedia at gmail.com
> Personal twitter
> @christopher2236
> VABS twitter
> @vabs_students
> access tech media's twitter
> @accesstechmedia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Welcome to the list, Jamal. I am Aleeha Dudley,, a zoology major at Miami 
>> University in Ohio. I hope you find this list useful.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:38 AM, justin williams via nabs-l 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome, good to have you.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jahmal 
>>> Lovato
>>> via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:00 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
>>> Importance: High
>>>
>>> Hello list,
>>> I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the 
>>> discussion
>>> list.
>>> I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
>>> I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class, 
>>> and
>>> I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary
>>> education.
>>> I won't write my bio here, but I just thought I'd give a small intro and 
>>> say
>>> hello.
>>> Best,
>>> Jahmal
>>> -Musician
>>> Voice coach. Recording artist.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/justin.williams2%40gmail
>>> .com
>>>
>>>
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>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>>
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From kcj21 at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul  8 16:23:07 2014
From: kcj21 at bellsouth.net (kcj21)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 09:23:07 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
In-Reply-To: <CDFF36F99973453480CF20C26099C1C7@user8473c41586>
References: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com><022e01cf9ab1$f2773020$d7659060$@gmail.com><E78679D8-A70B-4724-BD20-A803D87E3BE2@gmail.com>	<DE94D27F-3250-45F0-A6FF-6E67FA1026BC@gmail.com>
	<CDFF36F99973453480CF20C26099C1C7@user8473c41586>
Message-ID: <1404836587.11393.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi, My name is Kaley Jemison. I graduated from high school in 2012 and am a junior at The Harriet L. Wilkes Honors College of Florida Atlantic University where I am majoring in English Literature. Feel free to contact me off list at kcj21 at bellsouth.net 


On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 10:40 AM, Silvia via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
  


Hello, My name is Silvia Buzzanco I am 22 and I am going to be an undergrad 
student at the porreco center in Erie PA and then going to Edinboro 
Univercity for my major of Apply of Technology.

phone: 814-860-4922

E mail: sasilviab at gmail.com

twitter: silbuzz
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher O'Meally via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello and intro


> welcome to the list.
>
> My name is Christopher O'Meally, but people call me chris.
>
> I graduated highschool in 2009 and am still in college working on computer 
> related degrees.
>
> Christopher O'Meally
> VABS Board member.
> Founder of Access Tech Media.
> Part time computer Instructer.
>
> 8046586668
>
> chris.omeally at gmail.com
> accesstechmedia at gmail.com
> Personal twitter
> @christopher2236
> VABS twitter
> @vabs_students
> access tech media's twitter
> @accesstechmedia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Welcome to the list, Jamal. I am Aleeha Dudley,, a zoology major at Miami 
>> University in Ohio. I hope you find this list useful.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:38 AM, justin williams via nabs-l 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome, good to have you.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jahmal 
>>> Lovato
>>> via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:00 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
>>> Importance: High
>>>
>>> Hello list,
>>> I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the 
>>> discussion
>>> list.
>>> I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
>>> I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class, 
>>> and
>>> I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary
>>> education.
>>> I won't write my bio here, but I just thought I'd give a small intro and 
>>> say
>>> hello.
>>> Best,
>>> Jahmal
>>> -Musician
>>> Voice coach. Recording artist.
>>>
>>>
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From jhud7789 at outlook.com  Tue Jul  8 16:48:39 2014
From: jhud7789 at outlook.com (Joeph Hudson)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:48:39 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
In-Reply-To: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com>
References: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com>
Message-ID: <BLU405-EAS1820014A563F42E601031BCE0C0@phx.gbl>

Just wanted to say welcome to all new members and congratulations to the new board members. For those that don't know me that are new, my name is Joseph Hudson i'm 24 and I love helping out with different educational things and technology and that can be available via Skype or via phone or even via email.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 8, 2014, at 12:00 AM, "Jahmal Lovato via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello list,
> I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the discussion list.
> I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
> I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class, and I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary education.
> I won’t write my bio here, but I just thought I’d give a small intro and say hello.
> Best,
> Jahmal
> —Musician
> Voice coach. Recording artist.
> 
> 
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From kcj21 at bellsouth.net  Tue Jul  8 19:32:35 2014
From: kcj21 at bellsouth.net (kcj21)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:32:35 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] (no subject)
Message-ID: <1404847955.58147.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi Helga, This is Kaley we went to Eagles Landing Middle School. It's been a while since I've heard from you. What have you been up to ? You can email me at kcj21 at bellsouth.net or call me at (561) 512-9141.
Can't wait to hear from you!

Kaley

From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  8 20:29:37 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:29:37 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
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References: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com><022e01cf9ab1$f2773020$d7659060$@gmail.com><E78679D8-A70B-4724-BD20-A803D87E3BE2@gmail.com>	<DE94D27F-3250-45F0-A6FF-6E67FA1026BC@gmail.com><CDFF36F99973453480CF20C26099C1C7@user8473c41586>
	<1404836587.11393.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0478046DAF7747AB89DCF426D2F421D2@Helga>

Hi Kaley! Welcome to the list! I'm very glad to hear from you! Hope you like 
this list! If you want to reach me my contact information is below in my 
email signature ok? Hope to hear from you soon! Thanks and God bless! :)
P.S. I just wanted to ask you, how did you find out about the NABS list? 
Just curious! You don't have to answer me if you don't want to ok? Thanks 
again! ;)



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

Phone: (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
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INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
-----Original Message----- 
From: kcj21 via nabs-l
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 12:23 PM
To: Silvia ; Christopher O'Meally ; National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello and intro

Hi, My name is Kaley Jemison. I graduated from high school in 2012 and am a 
junior at The Harriet L. Wilkes Honors College of Florida Atlantic 
University where I am majoring in English Literature. Feel free to contact 
me off list at kcj21 at bellsouth.net


On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 10:40 AM, Silvia via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
wrote:



Hello, My name is Silvia Buzzanco I am 22 and I am going to be an undergrad
student at the porreco center in Erie PA and then going to Edinboro
Univercity for my major of Apply of Technology.

phone: 814-860-4922

E mail: sasilviab at gmail.com

twitter: silbuzz
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher O'Meally via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind Students
mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello and intro


> welcome to the list.
>
> My name is Christopher O'Meally, but people call me chris.
>
> I graduated highschool in 2009 and am still in college working on computer
> related degrees.
>
> Christopher O'Meally
> VABS Board member.
> Founder of Access Tech Media.
> Part time computer Instructer.
>
> 8046586668
>
> chris.omeally at gmail.com
> accesstechmedia at gmail.com
> Personal twitter
> @christopher2236
> VABS twitter
> @vabs_students
> access tech media's twitter
> @accesstechmedia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Welcome to the list, Jamal. I am Aleeha Dudley,, a zoology major at Miami
>> University in Ohio. I hope you find this list useful.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:38 AM, justin williams via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome, good to have you.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jahmal
>>> Lovato
>>> via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:00 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
>>> Importance: High
>>>
>>> Hello list,
>>> I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the
>>> discussion
>>> list.
>>> I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
>>> I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class,
>>> and
>>> I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary
>>> education.
>>> I won't write my bio here, but I just thought I'd give a small intro and
>>> say
>>> hello.
>>> Best,
>>> Jahmal
>>> -Musician
>>> Voice coach. Recording artist.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Wed Jul  9 01:20:56 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 21:20:56 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
In-Reply-To: <CDFF36F99973453480CF20C26099C1C7@user8473c41586>
References: <9E596710-3AF1-4F0E-8D16-7847BCB78897@me.com><022e01cf9ab1$f2773020$d7659060$@gmail.com><E78679D8-A70B-4724-BD20-A803D87E3BE2@gmail.com><DE94D27F-3250-45F0-A6FF-6E67FA1026BC@gmail.com>
	<CDFF36F99973453480CF20C26099C1C7@user8473c41586>
Message-ID: <ACE2BFD709534C9B838F789769E43AFA@OwnerPC>

hi,
welcome, I finished college but I may go back some day to grad school and 
still like this list for the resources.
What is the porreco center? It does not sound like a college.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Silvia via nabs-l
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:40 AM
To: Christopher O'Meally ; National Association of Blind Students mailing 
list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello and intro

Hello, My name is Silvia Buzzanco I am 22 and I am going to be an undergrad
student at the porreco center in Erie PA and then going to Edinboro
Univercity for my major of Apply of Technology.

phone: 814-860-4922

E mail: sasilviab at gmail.com

twitter: silbuzz
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher O'Meally via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind Students
mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Hello and intro


> welcome to the list.
>
> My name is Christopher O'Meally, but people call me chris.
>
> I graduated highschool in 2009 and am still in college working on computer 
> related degrees.
>
> Christopher O'Meally
> VABS Board member.
> Founder of Access Tech Media.
> Part time computer Instructer.
>
> 8046586668
>
> chris.omeally at gmail.com
> accesstechmedia at gmail.com
> Personal twitter
> @christopher2236
> VABS twitter
> @vabs_students
> access tech media's twitter
> @accesstechmedia.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Welcome to the list, Jamal. I am Aleeha Dudley,, a zoology major at Miami 
>> University in Ohio. I hope you find this list useful.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:38 AM, justin williams via nabs-l 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Welcome, good to have you.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jahmal 
>>> Lovato
>>> via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:00 AM
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Hello and intro
>>> Importance: High
>>>
>>> Hello list,
>>> I just wanted to introduce myself, as i am a new member to the 
>>> discussion
>>> list.
>>> I am Jahmal, 19, from New Mexico.
>>> I graduated high school in 2013 as valedictorian of my graduating class, 
>>> and
>>> I am going to start college in the spring of 2015 to go in to elementary
>>> education.
>>> I won't write my bio here, but I just thought I'd give a small intro and 
>>> say
>>> hello.
>>> Best,
>>> Jahmal
>>> -Musician
>>> Voice coach. Recording artist.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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From lilliepennington at fuse.net  Wed Jul  9 01:57:41 2014
From: lilliepennington at fuse.net (Lillie Pennington)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 21:57:41 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] help with retrieving my AP Score
Message-ID: <00cc01cf9b19$30541c20$90fc5460$@net>

Hi everyone

 

I hope everyone who attended the NFB convention had a good time. 

 

I am attempting to retrieve my score from the AP US history test I took in
May. The scores are supposedly available for Ohio residents starting July
8th. 

I logged into my college board account and when told they could not locate
any of my scores, I put in the card number I was given at the end of me
taking the test. It could not locate any scores. 

 

I took the test at the same time as the other students, so I do not think a
time delay is the reason that I am not seeing my scores. My sited friend was
able to see her score. 

I am wondering if it is an issue with my accomidations and taking a separate
time to grade them? I know that for other blind students scores came later
in the mail. The scores aren't coming that way this year, and I guess I
assumed that my scores would be available like everyone elses. 

 

I suppose there could be an issue with filling out paperwork, but the person
who was filling in my scantron and other testday stuff seemed like they were
on top of everything. 

 

Has anyone taken any test this year and gotten scores back yet or had
issues? Retrievingg their scores? How do I go about getting my score if this
is the issue? 

 

Thanks


From kathrynwebster at me.com  Wed Jul  9 02:02:07 2014
From: kathrynwebster at me.com (Kathryn Webster)
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 22:02:07 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] help with retrieving my AP Score
In-Reply-To: <00cc01cf9b19$30541c20$90fc5460$@net>
References: <00cc01cf9b19$30541c20$90fc5460$@net>
Message-ID: <CEB2F73C-3A6C-441D-BE5A-ACA0EA82BA5F@me.com>

Lily, my scores came super late my junior and senior years of high school. Sorry :(
Kathryn


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:57 PM, Lillie Pennington via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> 
> 
> I hope everyone who attended the NFB convention had a good time. 
> 
> 
> 
> I am attempting to retrieve my score from the AP US history test I took in
> May. The scores are supposedly available for Ohio residents starting July
> 8th. 
> 
> I logged into my college board account and when told they could not locate
> any of my scores, I put in the card number I was given at the end of me
> taking the test. It could not locate any scores. 
> 
> 
> 
> I took the test at the same time as the other students, so I do not think a
> time delay is the reason that I am not seeing my scores. My sited friend was
> able to see her score. 
> 
> I am wondering if it is an issue with my accomidations and taking a separate
> time to grade them? I know that for other blind students scores came later
> in the mail. The scores aren't coming that way this year, and I guess I
> assumed that my scores would be available like everyone elses. 
> 
> 
> 
> I suppose there could be an issue with filling out paperwork, but the person
> who was filling in my scantron and other testday stuff seemed like they were
> on top of everything. 
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone taken any test this year and gotten scores back yet or had
> issues? Retrievingg their scores? How do I go about getting my score if this
> is the issue? 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Wed Jul  9 02:03:28 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 22:03:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] help with retrieving my AP Score
In-Reply-To: <00cc01cf9b19$30541c20$90fc5460$@net>
References: <00cc01cf9b19$30541c20$90fc5460$@net>
Message-ID: <9DD1F49D74CB49228AF3A72B5F119BAD@OwnerPC>

hi,
it may be a delay. call them and  ask the status and when you might be able 
to expect a score.
have someone sighted check too to ensure you did not overlook something.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Lillie Pennington via nabs-l
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:57 PM
To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
Subject: [nabs-l] help with retrieving my AP Score

Hi everyone



I hope everyone who attended the NFB convention had a good time.



I am attempting to retrieve my score from the AP US history test I took in
May. The scores are supposedly available for Ohio residents starting July
8th.

I logged into my college board account and when told they could not locate
any of my scores, I put in the card number I was given at the end of me
taking the test. It could not locate any scores.



I took the test at the same time as the other students, so I do not think a
time delay is the reason that I am not seeing my scores. My sited friend was
able to see her score.

I am wondering if it is an issue with my accomidations and taking a separate
time to grade them? I know that for other blind students scores came later
in the mail. The scores aren't coming that way this year, and I guess I
assumed that my scores would be available like everyone elses.



I suppose there could be an issue with filling out paperwork, but the person
who was filling in my scantron and other testday stuff seemed like they were
on top of everything.



Has anyone taken any test this year and gotten scores back yet or had
issues? Retrievingg their scores? How do I go about getting my score if this
is the issue?



Thanks

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From minh.ha927 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  9 02:12:35 2014
From: minh.ha927 at gmail.com (minh ha)
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 22:12:35 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] help with retrieving my AP Score
In-Reply-To: <9DD1F49D74CB49228AF3A72B5F119BAD@OwnerPC>
References: <00cc01cf9b19$30541c20$90fc5460$@net>
	<9DD1F49D74CB49228AF3A72B5F119BAD@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <CAAJqG9hZXCiOvsdN0LRZ=N9GLg=0ua7TQkjpAz47UK+YivtwEQ@mail.gmail.com>

Lillie,

A couple of my AP scores came a few weeks later than my classmates',
but in general, my AP scores were released at the same time as
everyone else's. I would give it a week and if you still don't see
your scores, call college board and they can help you retrieve it.
Another option is if you are close with your history teacher, get in
touch with them and ask them what your score is. I know teachers
receive a list of their students' scores from college board. This is
how I found out my scores when they were late. Hop ethis helps.
Minh

On 7/8/14, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> hi,
> it may be a delay. call them and  ask the status and when you might be able
>
> to expect a score.
> have someone sighted check too to ensure you did not overlook something.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lillie Pennington via nabs-l
> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:57 PM
> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
> Subject: [nabs-l] help with retrieving my AP Score
>
> Hi everyone
>
>
>
> I hope everyone who attended the NFB convention had a good time.
>
>
>
> I am attempting to retrieve my score from the AP US history test I took in
> May. The scores are supposedly available for Ohio residents starting July
> 8th.
>
> I logged into my college board account and when told they could not locate
> any of my scores, I put in the card number I was given at the end of me
> taking the test. It could not locate any scores.
>
>
>
> I took the test at the same time as the other students, so I do not think a
> time delay is the reason that I am not seeing my scores. My sited friend
> was
> able to see her score.
>
> I am wondering if it is an issue with my accomidations and taking a
> separate
> time to grade them? I know that for other blind students scores came later
> in the mail. The scores aren't coming that way this year, and I guess I
> assumed that my scores would be available like everyone elses.
>
>
>
> I suppose there could be an issue with filling out paperwork, but the
> person
> who was filling in my scantron and other testday stuff seemed like they
> were
> on top of everything.
>
>
>
> Has anyone taken any test this year and gotten scores back yet or had
> issues? Retrievingg their scores? How do I go about getting my score if
> this
> is the issue?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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-- 
"All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty
recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity:
but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on
their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence


From dsykora29 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  9 13:06:51 2014
From: dsykora29 at gmail.com (Danielle Sykora)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 09:06:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] help with retrieving my AP Score
In-Reply-To: <CAAJqG9hZXCiOvsdN0LRZ=N9GLg=0ua7TQkjpAz47UK+YivtwEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00cc01cf9b19$30541c20$90fc5460$@net>
	<9DD1F49D74CB49228AF3A72B5F119BAD@OwnerPC>
	<CAAJqG9hZXCiOvsdN0LRZ=N9GLg=0ua7TQkjpAz47UK+YivtwEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAdv8frU4pmuRLskLWs3WmnaK-34K9Rv8VPnJukYo=w5Gv6pEQ@mail.gmail.com>

Lillie,

I took two AP exams (bio and Lang and Comp) this year and received my
scores the same day I was scheduled to.

Danielle

On 7/8/14, minh ha via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Lillie,
>
> A couple of my AP scores came a few weeks later than my classmates',
> but in general, my AP scores were released at the same time as
> everyone else's. I would give it a week and if you still don't see
> your scores, call college board and they can help you retrieve it.
> Another option is if you are close with your history teacher, get in
> touch with them and ask them what your score is. I know teachers
> receive a list of their students' scores from college board. This is
> how I found out my scores when they were late. Hop ethis helps.
> Minh
>
> On 7/8/14, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> hi,
>> it may be a delay. call them and  ask the status and when you might be
>> able
>>
>> to expect a score.
>> have someone sighted check too to ensure you did not overlook something.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lillie Pennington via nabs-l
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:57 PM
>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>> Subject: [nabs-l] help with retrieving my AP Score
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope everyone who attended the NFB convention had a good time.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am attempting to retrieve my score from the AP US history test I took
>> in
>> May. The scores are supposedly available for Ohio residents starting July
>> 8th.
>>
>> I logged into my college board account and when told they could not
>> locate
>> any of my scores, I put in the card number I was given at the end of me
>> taking the test. It could not locate any scores.
>>
>>
>>
>> I took the test at the same time as the other students, so I do not think
>> a
>> time delay is the reason that I am not seeing my scores. My sited friend
>> was
>> able to see her score.
>>
>> I am wondering if it is an issue with my accomidations and taking a
>> separate
>> time to grade them? I know that for other blind students scores came
>> later
>> in the mail. The scores aren't coming that way this year, and I guess I
>> assumed that my scores would be available like everyone elses.
>>
>>
>>
>> I suppose there could be an issue with filling out paperwork, but the
>> person
>> who was filling in my scantron and other testday stuff seemed like they
>> were
>> on top of everything.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone taken any test this year and gotten scores back yet or had
>> issues? Retrievingg their scores? How do I go about getting my score if
>> this
>> is the issue?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nabs-l:
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>>
>>
>>
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>
>
>
> --
> "All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty
> recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity:
> but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on
> their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence
>
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From: member at linkedin.com (Carol Hummel via LinkedIn)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:44:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [nabs-l] Eric, please add me to your LinkedIn network
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  9 20:55:05 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:55:05 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Blackboard App
Message-ID: <6132F95BF3B246458D4DC6ADFECE364A@Helga>

Hi everyone! How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, do any of you here use the blackboard ap in your phone? I'm just wondering since I actually downloaded into my iPhone, and I'm actually having some issues wwith it! The issue that I'm having with it is that I am not able to reply to the discussion forum, and I can't create a tread either on it! In fact, I'm able to read the discussions, but when it comes to replying or creating a discussion tread it doesn't work! Just to let you know, I'm taking an online Nutrition class, and I'm actually using blackboard! If you use the blackboard app, I will really appreciate it if you could help me with this. Or in order to reply or create a discussion tread, do you just log in to the blackboard site using Safari? Just wondering! I really would like to  know  how do you do this! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!! :) 


Helga Schreiber 

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research 

Phone: (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 

From jhud7789 at outlook.com  Wed Jul  9 21:09:18 2014
From: jhud7789 at outlook.com (Joeph Hudson)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:09:18 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Blackboard App
In-Reply-To: <6132F95BF3B246458D4DC6ADFECE364A@Helga>
References: <6132F95BF3B246458D4DC6ADFECE364A@Helga>
Message-ID: <BLU405-EAS323FC86FEFE6C7A062890A2CE0F0@phx.gbl>

Hello Helga, I don't know what device you're using to do this I take it you're using your iPhone. So I think that there just might be some options that you're missing possibly in order to reply to thread or create new discussions so I was wondering if you would want somebody to troubleshoot with you maybe via Skype now, I will tell you right now I don't use the app but if we do it via Skype I can provide better assistance knowing what is on your screen and hearing voice over.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2014, at 3:55 PM, "Helga via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone! How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, do any of you here use the blackboard ap in your phone? I'm just wondering since I actually downloaded into my iPhone, and I'm actually having some issues wwith it! The issue that I'm having with it is that I am not able to reply to the discussion forum, and I can't create a tread either on it! In fact, I'm able to read the discussions, but when it comes to replying or creating a discussion tread it doesn't work! Just to let you know, I'm taking an online Nutrition class, and I'm actually using blackboard! If you use the blackboard app, I will really appreciate it if you could help me with this. Or in order to reply or create a discussion tread, do you just log in to the blackboard site using Safari? Just wondering! I really would like to  know  how do you do this! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!! :) 
> 
> 
> Helga Schreiber 
> 
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
> Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research 
> 
> Phone: (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
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From lizzym0827 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  9 21:21:34 2014
From: lizzym0827 at gmail.com (lizzy)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:21:34 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] help with retrieving my AP Score
Message-ID: <53bdb25d.4745e00a.0a44.ffffe9d9@mx.google.com>

Hi Lillie,
No worries, you're scores will come soon.  I didn't receive all 
of my scores until August even though my classmates got them in 
July.  I think the college board grades ours separately, since we 
took exams from previous years (or at least I did).  You should 
see a note when you log in saying that your scores are not ready 
yet and not to worry unless September 1st comes and goes.  Also, 
just as a side note, you have to be in your home state to view 
your scores.
HTH,
Lizzy


From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Wed Jul  9 22:25:04 2014
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:25:04 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] together today we make a better tomorrow.
Message-ID: <237F0D38-79E9-4238-9C0C-CE88B84410CC@gmail.com>

Dear NABs,
 I wanted to take the opportunity to say a few things:
1. Thank you to each and every person who made convention what it was.  In particular  for this post, thank you to each person who stepped up to   Marshal, deal, record, register connect sound, get door   prizes,    count, set up and clean up.. you are the folks that might not serve with an elected title, but we  can’t do the work  without.
 My Thanks to the hard-working Mary Fernandez and her committee for putting  together a fabulous  class of mentors and mentees. As well, my thanks to each of those Mentors who gave of their time,  and experience to make this program the success that it was. The Mentees need to be thanked as  well, as you are the reason why the program  returned for a second year.
 My  whole-hearted  thanks goes to  the     folks who  came off of the board at this year’s elections. In  Particular Justin Salisbury and Cindy Bennett, both of which have served the organization well prior to serving on the NABS board, and who are fast rising leaders in our movement. Look to  see them as  change-makers and driving forces in our affiliates, and wherever else they may be.
 
 
 To our new Board members Derek manners, James Garret Mooney and Rebecca Leon (of Ma, Az and TN, respectively).
 I know I join the rest of our membership when I say that we look forward to working with you on many great collaborations and making a difference along the way.
 to our hold-overs in Karen, Candice and Cody; thank you for your steady and strong leadership as members of the board, you are the  foundation, the glue that holds things in place   amongst the change, and have held down our efforts on the ground during convention week.  Everything from  managing the  Money, to coordinating youth track activities and    being  solid team players.
 
 Congratulations to Sean for his re-election to the presidency, I’m sure I speak for our  membership when I say that I look forward to   
   a great term filled with improved  communication, collaboration and transparency.  I know that the membership will be ever supportive  in whatever manner the situation calls for.
 Gabe and Bre;   congratulations to    both of you for ascending to the offices of 2nd Vice-President  and secretary respectively.
 You have been  key  young leaders  in our movement for quite some time, and I look forward to the wonderful work you will do to  Make NABS better, and the Federation better as a result.
 To the people who ran for offices but didn’t get them; please don’t get disheartened, instead get involved. 
 Find something you want to latch onto and own it.
 if you can’t  find it,   create it, and  by doing so you will make the lives of  countless students better.
 if you are thinking about involving yourself in the work of NABs and the Federation, I say do it! you won’t regret it; I never once did.
  Yesterday is the history  we’ve made , today   come  the  mysteries     that together we solve, and tomorrow is the gift we give our future; the gift   of love, respect and admiration in the Federation. 
 
   yours in the movement,
  Darian 

From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 10 01:53:29 2014
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 21:53:29 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] bluetooth keyboard
Message-ID: <00be01cf9be1$bf7a1670$3e6e4350$@gmail.com>

My Bluetooth keyboard stopped working. I've disconnected and reconnected it.
it is from A T guys.  Is there a battery which has to be changed?  It is
plugged in. What should I do?  It won't work even when plugged in. 


From matt.dierckens at me.com  Thu Jul 10 01:54:37 2014
From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens)
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 21:54:37 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] bluetooth keyboard
In-Reply-To: <00be01cf9be1$bf7a1670$3e6e4350$@gmail.com>
References: <00be01cf9be1$bf7a1670$3e6e4350$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C7C885A9-C812-4B10-896F-214E53373687@me.com>

Hi Justin.
If you're talking the mini keyboard, did you make sure that the switch is turned on? It may take several attempts to pair, but it will work. The battery is run off of USB.

Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 9, 2014, at 9:53 PM, justin williams via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> My Bluetooth keyboard stopped working. I've disconnected and reconnected it.
> it is from A T guys.  Is there a battery which has to be changed?  It is
> plugged in. What should I do?  It won't work even when plugged in. 
> 
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 10 02:16:02 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 22:16:02 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] together today we make a better tomorrow.
In-Reply-To: <237F0D38-79E9-4238-9C0C-CE88B84410CC@gmail.com>
References: <237F0D38-79E9-4238-9C0C-CE88B84410CC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS3137967BD173EDA58C96871BA0E0@phx.gbl>

And finally, thank you Darian for all the hard work you have put into NABS
over the past several years. Thank you for being willing to round all of us
up to volunteer for activities at national convention. Perhaps we are the
ones who make things happen at national convention, but you are the one who
puts it all together so that everything gets covered. 

Thank you for putting together and hosting the NABS conference calls. As an
older member, I always found myself learning something new from attending
these membership conference calls.

Thank you for being willing to serve as a mentor to others. I know you have
a heart for community service, and your passion to serve others is truly
inspiring.

And thank you for the time you spent serving on the NABS board. I would also
consider you to be another fast rising leader in our movement, and I look
forward to seeing you continue to be a  change-maker and a driving force  in
our organization whether it is as serving as a local chapter President or
serving as the new leader of the Community Service division.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth


-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darian Smith
via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 6:25 PM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] together today we make a better tomorrow.

Dear NABs,
 I wanted to take the opportunity to say a few things:
1. Thank you to each and every person who made convention what it was.  In
particular  for this post, thank you to each person who stepped up to
Marshal, deal, record, register connect sound, get door   prizes,    count,
set up and clean up.. you are the folks that might not serve with an elected
title, but we  can't do the work  without.
 My Thanks to the hard-working Mary Fernandez and her committee for putting
together a fabulous  class of mentors and mentees. As well, my thanks to
each of those Mentors who gave of their time,  and experience to make this
program the success that it was. The Mentees need to be thanked as  well, as
you are the reason why the program  returned for a second year.
 My  whole-hearted  thanks goes to  the     folks who  came off of the board
at this year's elections. In  Particular Justin Salisbury and Cindy Bennett,
both of which have served the organization well prior to serving on the NABS
board, and who are fast rising leaders in our movement. Look to  see them as
change-makers and driving forces in our affiliates, and wherever else they
may be.
 
 
 To our new Board members Derek manners, James Garret Mooney and Rebecca
Leon (of Ma, Az and TN, respectively).
 I know I join the rest of our membership when I say that we look forward to
working with you on many great collaborations and making a difference along
the way.
 to our hold-overs in Karen, Candice and Cody; thank you for your steady and
strong leadership as members of the board, you are the  foundation, the glue
that holds things in place   amongst the change, and have held down our
efforts on the ground during convention week.  Everything from  managing the
Money, to coordinating youth track activities and    being  solid team
players.
 
 Congratulations to Sean for his re-election to the presidency, I'm sure I
speak for our  membership when I say that I look forward to   
   a great term filled with improved  communication, collaboration and
transparency.  I know that the membership will be ever supportive  in
whatever manner the situation calls for.
 Gabe and Bre;   congratulations to    both of you for ascending to the
offices of 2nd Vice-President  and secretary respectively.
 You have been  key  young leaders  in our movement for quite some time, and
I look forward to the wonderful work you will do to  Make NABS better, and
the Federation better as a result.
 To the people who ran for offices but didn't get them; please don't get
disheartened, instead get involved. 
 Find something you want to latch onto and own it.
 if you can't  find it,   create it, and  by doing so you will make the
lives of  countless students better.
 if you are thinking about involving yourself in the work of NABs and the
Federation, I say do it! you won't regret it; I never once did.
  Yesterday is the history  we've made , today   come  the  mysteries
that together we solve, and tomorrow is the gift we give our future; the
gift   of love, respect and admiration in the Federation. 
 
   yours in the movement,
  Darian 
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From carlymih at comcast.net  Thu Jul 10 12:22:13 2014
From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 05:22:13 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] neonatal nurse
In-Reply-To: <1da3574aa9e8440aa471bdbabee62752@BLUPR07MB258.namprd07.pro
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References: <CAN2qfC0dWgAf6nOLaOgRcsPug3c=Q3AhpZ2Gw+jRAaNrj3a1eQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJcYH68N+mFeMw6xP1tWHfQhqOLUqrQ1coBj3JHLoZO+E59XZw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<1da3574aa9e8440aa471bdbabee62752@BLUPR07MB258.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20140710052139.01fd60a0@comcast.net>

Good morning, Joshua,

What the hell is a PCA?
for today, CarAt 11:02 PM 10/29/2013, you wrote:
>Keira, I must ask this question.
>Do you have any sight at all?
>If so, you may be able to do some things.
>PCA's may require little to no sight.
>Blessings, Joshua
>________________________________________
>From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Keira Davis 
>[keke.davis91 at gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:57 AM
>To: sandragayer7 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students 
>mailing list
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] neonatal nurse
>
>Thanks to the both of you. Sandra, I haven't tried career connect yet.
>That will be my next look. I talked to Fred, my state president and he
>said that he will help me. If I don't become a neonatal nurse, I would
>take just being a nurse. It's like it's in my blood. My mom's a nurse,
>sisters, aunt, and just everyone. I love going with them to work and
>jus trying to help out as best as I can. or, use to love doing it.
>School has gotten in the way. I go with my aunt if I'm home. Sh'e a
>PCA, Person care assistant. I wonder if that could be something I
>could start off doing?
>
>On 10/30/13, Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello Keira,
> > State your case as well as you can. Give them your reasons for wanting
> > this career and let them know about possible solutions you have come
> > up with for the problems ahead. Before they tell you,
> > "You can't possibly do this or that," tell them how you are able to do
> > this or that.
> >
> > Have you tried Career Connect? There might be someone there who
> > followed the same career path you want and they could give you more
> > case specific help.
> >
> > Very best wishes,
> > Sandra.
> >
> > On 10/30/13, Keira Davis <keke.davis91 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hello. For some time now, I have been thinking of a career. I really
> >> want to become a neonatal nurse. My questions are for all of the
> >> college students. When you had a passion to study something, how did
> >> you deal with college authority telling you that it wouldn't be
> >> possible? How did you show them that it was, in fact possible for you
> >> to do this? This are just some question. I really want to do this, but
> >> these are the things i'm afraid i'm going to run into. Please help. If
> >> anyone knows someone who could give me some guidance, I would  be
> >> thankful
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> nabs-l:
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> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Soprano Singer
> >  www.sandragayer.com
> >
> > Broadcast Presenter
> >
> > www.insightradio.co.uk/music-box.html
> >
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From cape.amanda at gmail.com  Thu Jul 10 12:41:28 2014
From: cape.amanda at gmail.com (cape.amanda at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 08:41:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Brf files written on pacmate read on another device
Message-ID: <8CB9B033-171A-461C-9EEA-CDFC62A72EA0@gmail.com>



Hi guys,
I wonder if anyone could help me. I wrote a Brf file on my pacmate and had to send it to someone with another device. She received the file but could only read the first forty cells, the rest of the document did not display properly. How can I fix this?Amanda

From sweetpeareader at gmail.com  Thu Jul 10 14:05:40 2014
From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (Sophie Trist)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:05:40 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] neonatal nurse
Message-ID: <53be9dbe.096eec0a.1bb8.fffff228@mx.google.com>

Personal care assistant.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 05:22:13 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] neonatal nurse

Good morning, Joshua,

What the hell is a PCA?
for today, CarAt 11:02 PM 10/29/2013, you wrote:
Keira, I must ask this question.
Do you have any sight at all?
If so, you may be able to do some things.
PCA's may require little to no sight.
Blessings, Joshua
________________________________________
From: nabs-l [nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] on behalf of Keira Davis
[keke.davis91 at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:57 AM
To: sandragayer7 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind 
Students
mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] neonatal nurse

Thanks to the both of you. Sandra, I haven't tried career connect 
yet.
That will be my next look. I talked to Fred, my state president 
and he
said that he will help me. If I don't become a neonatal nurse, I 
would
take just being a nurse. It's like it's in my blood. My mom's a 
nurse,
sisters, aunt, and just everyone. I love going with them to work 
and
jus trying to help out as best as I can. or, use to love doing 
it.
School has gotten in the way. I go with my aunt if I'm home. Sh'e 
a
PCA, Person care assistant. I wonder if that could be something I
could start off doing?

On 10/30/13, Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com> wrote:
 Hello Keira,
 State your case as well as you can. Give them your reasons for 
wanting
 this career and let them know about possible solutions you have 
come
 up with for the problems ahead. Before they tell you,
 "You can't possibly do this or that," tell them how you are able 
to do
 this or that.

 Have you tried Career Connect? There might be someone there who
 followed the same career path you want and they could give you 
more
 case specific help.

 Very best wishes,
 Sandra.

 On 10/30/13, Keira Davis <keke.davis91 at gmail.com> wrote:
 Hello. For some time now, I have been thinking of a career. I 
really
 want to become a neonatal nurse. My questions are for all of the
 college students. When you had a passion to study something, how 
did
 you deal with college authority telling you that it wouldn't be
 possible? How did you show them that it was, in fact possible 
for you
 to do this? This are just some question. I really want to do 
this, but
 these are the things i'm afraid i'm going to run into. Please 
help. If
 anyone knows someone who could give me some guidance, I would  
be
 thankful

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From kmaent1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 10 15:18:51 2014
From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:18:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Brf files written on pacmate read on another device
Message-ID: <53beaf08.0220320a.7f19.ffffbea4@mx.google.com>

Hi Amanda,

I don't know what's going on with your particular file, but I 
would suggest saving it as a different file type (txt, doc, rtf, 
etc) and resending it unless it's something that has to be in 
braille like Braille music.

Best,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Amanda via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 08:41:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Brf files written on pacmate read on another 
device



Hi guys,
I wonder if anyone could help me. I wrote a Brf file on my 
pacmate and had to send it to someone with another device. She 
received the file but could only read the first forty cells, the 
rest of the document did not display properly. How can I fix 
this?Amanda
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From cape.amanda at gmail.com  Thu Jul 10 15:34:50 2014
From: cape.amanda at gmail.com (cape.amanda at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:34:50 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Brf files written on pacmate read on another device
In-Reply-To: <53beaf08.0220320a.7f19.ffffbea4@mx.google.com>
References: <53beaf08.0220320a.7f19.ffffbea4@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <533D57C9-0AED-41E5-A6D3-1020142D20FB@gmail.com>

It does have to be in Braille.

Amanda

> On Jul 10, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Karl Martin Adam <kmaent1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Amanda,
> 
> I don't know what's going on with your particular file, but I would suggest saving it as a different file type (txt, doc, rtf, etc) and resending it unless it's something that has to be in braille like Braille music.
> 
> Best,
> Karl
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Amanda via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 08:41:28 -0400
> Subject: [nabs-l] Brf files written on pacmate read on another device
> 
> 
> 
> Hi guys,
> I wonder if anyone could help me. I wrote a Brf file on my pacmate and had to send it to someone with another device. She received the file but could only read the first forty cells, the rest of the document did not display properly. How can I fix this?Amanda
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From lhnews at lighthouse-sf.org  Thu Jul 10 21:55:28 2014
From: lhnews at lighthouse-sf.org (LightHouse for the Blind and Visually Impaired)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:55:28 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] LightHouse Highlights August Special Programs for Youth
Message-ID: <2B462D39CA57B147A4C4B61F9FC1959D4FC202@email.rrlh-sf.local>

1. The Bay Area is Your Oyster - Transit Trek Week for Youth and Teens
The LightHouse will host a totally free Transit Trek week from Monday, August 4 through Friday, August 8. If you are blind or low vision and between the ages of ten and nineteen and you'd like a week of adventure while learning and experiencing various public transportation routes in the San Francisco Bay Area, then you're with us. Blind youth and LightHouse mobility instructors will take on a different destination adventure each day, such as riding BART to the International Airports in Oakland and San Francisco, MUNI to Golden Gate Park and CAL TRAIN to San Jose for lunch. The goals (besides lots of fun) include: accessing and gaining exposure to all forms of public transit including BART, Caltrain, MUNI and Sam Trans; honing cane travel skills and confidence, and most of all, developing the desire to travel with gusto and savvy.

Dates: Monday, August 4 through Friday, August 8, 9:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. each day

Space is limited to 15 students, so sign up now. East Bay students will meet at the Ed Roberts Campus in Berkeley at 9:00 a.m. to travel to San Francisco and arrive by 9:30 a.m. For more information and to register contact Debbie Bacon at dbacon at lighthouse-sf.org<mailto:dbacon at lighthouse-sf.org> or Kathy Abrahamson at kabrahamson at lighthouse-sf.org<mailto:kabrahamson at lighthouse-sf.org>.



2. Blind Musicians Take Note
We have just a handful of openings for the August session at our brand new Music Academy for blind and visually impaired musicians. The Academy, which will be held at Enchanted Hills Camp in Napa, is open to blind musicians ages 14 to 25. The session is led by Dancing Dots founder Bill McCann.

Dates: The session runs from August 3 through August 9

If you are a serious blind musician or are thinking of entering the profession, this academy will introduce you to new ways you can write down your own music, read the works of others, and gain the capacity necessary to compete for and win employment in the music field.

Find out more about the Music Academy at http://bit.ly/musicacademyatehc.


From mikgephart at icloud.com  Thu Jul 10 23:59:48 2014
From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:59:48 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Macs
Message-ID: <EFD4C2FF-C3CD-4023-8A61-C4A348294E7D@icloud.com>

Hi,
	Does anyone use Microsoft Word on a mac and is it accessible with Voiceover? 
Mikayla

Sent from my iPad


From matt.dierckens at me.com  Fri Jul 11 00:01:15 2014
From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:01:15 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Macs
In-Reply-To: <EFD4C2FF-C3CD-4023-8A61-C4A348294E7D@icloud.com>
References: <EFD4C2FF-C3CD-4023-8A61-C4A348294E7D@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <475EBE89-BDEE-4DCA-8CFB-316290428F8B@me.com>

No, its not accessible. You can use either pages or textedit to open and edit Microsoft word documents.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 10, 2014, at 7:59 PM, Mikayla Gephart via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> 	Does anyone use Microsoft Word on a mac and is it accessible with Voiceover? 
> Mikayla
> 
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From joy.misto at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 16:58:01 2014
From: joy.misto at gmail.com (Jpy Mistovich)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:58:01 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Core program at bism student experiences
Message-ID: <D70562C4-1928-4F02-A1E2-03B8249A2E9E@gmail.com>

Hi everyone, I am sending this email  to ask if any of the students on this list have graduated from the core program at bism and to learn more about the experiences of the students who have participated? 
Thanks, joy

Sent from my iPad

From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 17:43:49 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:43:49 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Congratulations Of the New Nfb President
Message-ID: <53c02291.9482ec0a.71fb.fffffb81@mx.google.com>

Dear Students,

I hope you are all doing well.  I'd like to congratulate Mr.  
Mark Riccobono on becoming the next president of the National 
Federation Of The Blind.  I can't wait to see what our next 
president has in store for this organization.  Hope to hear from 
you soon.


From b.schulz at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 11 18:43:18 2014
From: b.schulz at sbcglobal.net (Bryan Schulz)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:43:18 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] presidents email
Message-ID: <4B598CFF6DDE473DA229C7B806F8904C@HP8730notebook>

hi,

someone please let me know the email address for the president of nabs.
thanks.
Bryan Schulz



From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 11 19:00:40 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:00:40 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] presidents email
In-Reply-To: <4B598CFF6DDE473DA229C7B806F8904C@HP8730notebook>
References: <4B598CFF6DDE473DA229C7B806F8904C@HP8730notebook>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS2132E13CC19AEB97E5D6093BA090@phx.gbl>

Hello Brian,

The email address for Sean Whalen, NABS President, is
nabs.president at gmail.com.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
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via nabs-l
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 2:43 PM
To: nabs-l
Subject: [nabs-l] presidents email

hi,

someone please let me know the email address for the president of nabs.
thanks.
Bryan Schulz


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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 19:24:34 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 15:24:34 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Congratulations Of the New Nfb President
In-Reply-To: <53c02291.9482ec0a.71fb.fffffb81@mx.google.com>
References: <53c02291.9482ec0a.71fb.fffffb81@mx.google.com>
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Hi all! How are you all? I would like to congratulate Mr. Mark Riccobono on becoming the new  National Federation of the Blind President as well! I know that he will do a great and awesome job as president! I have not doubt about it! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much and God bless! :) 
P.S. I just wanted to ask you, do any of you here know his email address? I'm just wondering. Perhaps, he has a new email address since now he is the NFB president right? Thanks again! ;)  

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jul 11, 2014, at 1:43 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Students,
> 
> I hope you are all doing well.  I'd like to congratulate Mr.  Mark Riccobono on becoming the next president of the National Federation Of The Blind.  I can't wait to see what our next president has in store for this organization.  Hope to hear from you soon.
> 
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From anjelinac at att.net  Fri Jul 11 21:26:37 2014
From: anjelinac at att.net (Anjelina)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 17:26:37 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Considering bism
In-Reply-To: <CC15F5FE-A740-4688-B315-40603000105F@gmail.com>
References: <CC15F5FE-A740-4688-B315-40603000105F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F0A01776-C777-49CB-A55B-FBC4B153BE38@att.net>

Hi Joy,
Have you contacted BISM to ask if they could get you in touch with a current or former student?
As far as I know they follow the Nfb philosophy but they're not directly affiliated with the Federation. I have a friend who currently is going to the program and she is enjoying all the alternative skills she is learning.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Jpy Mistovich via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone, I've been considering going to bism for training  in the core program. Can any of you who have participated in the program  tell me about  your experiences? 
> Thanks, joy
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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From becsjoynfb at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 22:58:13 2014
From: becsjoynfb at gmail.com (Rebecca Leon)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 18:58:13 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Considering bism
In-Reply-To: <F0A01776-C777-49CB-A55B-FBC4B153BE38@att.net>
References: <CC15F5FE-A740-4688-B315-40603000105F@gmail.com>
	<F0A01776-C777-49CB-A55B-FBC4B153BE38@att.net>
Message-ID: <164D85BC-2B9D-4B62-826D-1CB9F85DD0B6@gmail.com>

Hey Joy,
I would love to get the chance to talk with you about BISM off list. I am a current student there and could give some perspective :-)
My email is:
becsjoynfb at Gmail.com just shoot me a note and we can get in touch :-)
Rebecca –


"The drop of rain maketh a hole in the stone, not by violence, but by oft falling."
-Hugh Latimer
> On 11/07/2014, at 17:26, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Joy,
> Have you contacted BISM to ask if they could get you in touch with a current or former student?
> As far as I know they follow the Nfb philosophy but they're not directly affiliated with the Federation. I have a friend who currently is going to the program and she is enjoying all the alternative skills she is learning.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Jpy Mistovich via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi everyone, I've been considering going to bism for training  in the core program. Can any of you who have participated in the program  tell me about  your experiences? 
>> Thanks, joy
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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From oliver.doug1 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 11 23:05:31 2014
From: oliver.doug1 at gmail.com (Doug Oliver)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 18:05:31 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Considering bism
In-Reply-To: <164D85BC-2B9D-4B62-826D-1CB9F85DD0B6@gmail.com>
References: <CC15F5FE-A740-4688-B315-40603000105F@gmail.com><F0A01776-C777-49CB-A55B-FBC4B153BE38@att.net>
	<164D85BC-2B9D-4B62-826D-1CB9F85DD0B6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8F4CE74763054327BA3C89803EC22606@Doliver>

where is bism and what is it

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rebecca Leon via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "Anjelina" <anjelinac at att.net>; "National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Jpy Mistovich" <joy.misto at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Considering bism


> Hey Joy,
> I would love to get the chance to talk with you about BISM off list. I am 
> a current student there and could give some perspective :-)
> My email is:
> becsjoynfb at Gmail.com just shoot me a note and we can get in touch :-)
> Rebecca –
>
>
> "The drop of rain maketh a hole in the stone, not by violence, but by oft 
> falling."
> -Hugh Latimer
>> On 11/07/2014, at 17:26, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Joy,
>> Have you contacted BISM to ask if they could get you in touch with a 
>> current or former student?
>> As far as I know they follow the Nfb philosophy but they're not directly 
>> affiliated with the Federation. I have a friend who currently is going to 
>> the program and she is enjoying all the alternative skills she is 
>> learning.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Jpy Mistovich via nabs-l 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi everyone, I've been considering going to bism for training  in the 
>>> core program. Can any of you who have participated in the program  tell 
>>> me about  your experiences?
>>> Thanks, joy
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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From anjelinac at att.net  Fri Jul 11 23:23:46 2014
From: anjelinac at att.net (Anjelina)
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 19:23:46 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Considering bism
In-Reply-To: <8F4CE74763054327BA3C89803EC22606@Doliver>
References: <CC15F5FE-A740-4688-B315-40603000105F@gmail.com>
	<F0A01776-C777-49CB-A55B-FBC4B153BE38@att.net>
	<164D85BC-2B9D-4B62-826D-1CB9F85DD0B6@gmail.com>
	<8F4CE74763054327BA3C89803EC22606@Doliver>
Message-ID: <1BA0E1A8-8A08-42D8-BDE7-4D16A0C51660@att.net>

It's a blindness training center in Baltimore.
The acronym stands for blind industries in services of Maryland.
Www.bism.org

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2014, at 7:05 PM, Doug Oliver via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> where is bism and what is it
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Leon via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Anjelina" <anjelinac at att.net>; "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Jpy Mistovich" <joy.misto at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 5:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Considering bism
> 
> 
>> Hey Joy,
>> I would love to get the chance to talk with you about BISM off list. I am a current student there and could give some perspective :-)
>> My email is:
>> becsjoynfb at Gmail.com just shoot me a note and we can get in touch :-)
>> Rebecca –
>> 
>> 
>> "The drop of rain maketh a hole in the stone, not by violence, but by oft falling."
>> -Hugh Latimer
>>> On 11/07/2014, at 17:26, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Joy,
>>> Have you contacted BISM to ask if they could get you in touch with a current or former student?
>>> As far as I know they follow the Nfb philosophy but they're not directly affiliated with the Federation. I have a friend who currently is going to the program and she is enjoying all the alternative skills she is learning.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 10:29 PM, Jpy Mistovich via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi everyone, I've been considering going to bism for training  in the core program. Can any of you who have participated in the program  tell me about  your experiences?
>>>> Thanks, joy
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/anjelinac%40att.net
>>> 
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From gcazares10 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 12 18:58:27 2014
From: gcazares10 at gmail.com (Gabe Cazares)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 13:58:27 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] August NABS Notes Announcements
Message-ID: <000001cf9e03$441fd0e0$cc5f72a0$@com>

Howdy Friends,

I was delighted to see many of you last week at the seventy-fourth
convention of the National Federation of the Blind! It was an exciting week,
and we have lots to report. The August edition of the NABS Notes will be
complete with coverage on our new board members, the new positions some of
us now hold, and other convention-related news.

As usual, if your state student division has something to report that you'd
like to have included in our NABS Monthly Notes, please send them to Bre
Brown, bre.brown24 at gmail.com or me at gcazares at nfbtx.org.

I look forward to reading your updates!

Stay tuned, NABS has exciting things in the works for this coming year!!!

All the best,

 

Gabe Cazares

Second Vice President, National Association of Blind Students

A Division of the National Federation of the Blind

www.nabslink.org

Twitter: @nabslink

 


From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 12 21:29:51 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS4008968946EEEEBE300EE35BA080@phx.gbl>

Hello All,

I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a great
time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention can be a
rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. However, as I
was listening to the online stream of the national convention this year, I
found myself feeling the complete opposite.

Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself
feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the speaches
from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking how lucky they
must be that the only disability they have to deal with in their lives was
there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it must be fore someone who
is only blind, and how more difficult it is for someone who has another
disability in addition to being blind.

Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list, but I
was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if so, what did
you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would greatly appreciate
hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind of issue before.

Thanks,
Elizabeth


From arielle71 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 12 22:03:19 2014
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:03:19 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS4008968946EEEEBE300EE35BA080@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS4008968946EEEEBE300EE35BA080@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CALAYQJCvMhZtw7pW68aFMtfHV9SWdh7OZ_DU7Y+_HJZpBe1dRg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Elizabeth and all,

I  think your reaction is perfectly natural and it is definitely one
that others have expressed inside and outside the NFB. However, I
would point out that  our leaders could also experience struggles in
ways that we are not aware of. For example, I know that several of our
national leaders learned Braille later in life, either because of
anti-Braille attitudes in their education or because they became blind
as adults. In a way, learning Braille later could be considered a kind
of disability because it is harder to become fluent in Braille when
one starts learning later in life. These leaders may come across as
impeccable in their speeches, but what we don't know is how much they
might have practiced beforehand or what tricks they use to compensate
for a slower reading speed. There are also many among us, probably
some in leadership, who have hidden disabilities--learning, mental
health or otherwise--they have not disclosed with us. In fact, I have
several lifelong balance and coordination problems, and suspect I
could have a  mild form of a  second disability myself. Given the
prevalence of mental health conditions (many hidden) in the
population, and the kinds of additional disabilities that often come
with blindness, I would probably guess that a majority of our members
have additional disabilities even if we cannot see them, and everyone
has their own real and perceived struggles even if we cannot see them.
My point is that while comparisons are natural, I would encourage all
of us to try to be the best we can be rather than comparing ourselves
to the front that somebody else puts forward.

Best,
Arielle

On 7/12/14, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a great
> time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention can be a
> rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. However, as I
> was listening to the online stream of the national convention this year, I
> found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>
> Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself
> feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the speaches
> from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking how lucky they
> must be that the only disability they have to deal with in their lives was
> there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it must be fore someone who
> is only blind, and how more difficult it is for someone who has another
> disability in addition to being blind.
>
> Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list, but I
> was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if so, what did
> you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would greatly appreciate
> hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind of issue before.
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>
> _______________________________________________
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From anjelinac at att.net  Sat Jul 12 22:46:30 2014
From: anjelinac at att.net (Anjelina)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:46:30 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS4008968946EEEEBE300EE35BA080@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS4008968946EEEEBE300EE35BA080@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8B979399-B1F8-4108-8AAE-4E506F646E87@att.net>

Hi elizabeth,
Thank you for being bold enough to post your thoughts and feelings to the list. Yo uare not alone in feeling inferior after hearing convention speeches. Arielle has given great advice. Having more than just blindness is not always the easiest to contend with, but if we are the best we can be that is all that matters.
I know personally I felt a bit inadiquate after listening to some of the speakers but afterward I tried to identify what it was about them that I lacked. I will set small goals for myself this year such as trying to get more involved in my local chapter or even contributing on list more even though I am not as eloquent as many list members. :)
You are not alone in how you feel and this is a great place to come for support. Is there anything I or the list can help you with? Was there a particular speech which made you feel less than?


-Anjelina
Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a great
> time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention can be a
> rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. However, as I
> was listening to the online stream of the national convention this year, I
> found myself feeling the complete opposite.
> 
> Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself
> feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the speaches
> from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking how lucky they
> must be that the only disability they have to deal with in their lives was
> there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it must be fore someone who
> is only blind, and how more difficult it is for someone who has another
> disability in addition to being blind.
> 
> Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list, but I
> was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if so, what did
> you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would greatly appreciate
> hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind of issue before.
> 
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 12 23:50:55 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 19:50:55 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
In-Reply-To: <8B979399-B1F8-4108-8AAE-4E506F646E87@att.net>
References: <COL402-EAS4008968946EEEEBE300EE35BA080@phx.gbl>
	<8B979399-B1F8-4108-8AAE-4E506F646E87@att.net>
Message-ID: <COL402-EAS2955A8D3BF4FC61CE3D4A03BA080@phx.gbl>

Hello Anjelina,

Thank you for your response. Although, I am not quite sure why I am being
applauded for being bold enough to post about something that no one else
seems to really understand. The new tagline of the NFB states that we can
live the life we want. I think it is great to inspire people to think this
way about blindness. The only problem is that for someone like me who can no
longer live the life that I want to live. It seems as though there is really
nothing more I can do than to accept things for what they really are rather
than how I wish they could be.

I think it was nice for Arielle to mention people who cannot read Braille
well because they learned it as adults rather than as children. However, at
least most of them still have a mind that is capable of learning Braille, or
anything else they wish to learn in life. But when you happen to have a mind
that just does not seem to work right anymore, there does not seem to be a
whole lot that you can do about it except to learn how to accept it as being
a part of your life. However, learning to accept this as a part of your life
also seems to include giving up on the dreams you once had before your mind
decided to stop working the way that it once did.

I really wish I could find some way to describe what I am going through with
others so that perhaps someone else might be able to understand. However,
the closest thing I have been able to find is something that is just labeled
as some stupid euphemism that really does not exist by a past leader within
our organization. With attitudes like this I really wonder if there is
really anything that can be done about it so that maybe I might still be
able to live the life that I want.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth




-----Original Message-----
From: Anjelina [mailto:anjelinac at att.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 6:47 PM
To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?

Hi elizabeth,
Thank you for being bold enough to post your thoughts and feelings to the
list. Yo uare not alone in feeling inferior after hearing convention
speeches. Arielle has given great advice. Having more than just blindness is
not always the easiest to contend with, but if we are the best we can be
that is all that matters.
I know personally I felt a bit inadiquate after listening to some of the
speakers but afterward I tried to identify what it was about them that I
lacked. I will set small goals for myself this year such as trying to get
more involved in my local chapter or even contributing on list more even
though I am not as eloquent as many list members. :) You are not alone in
how you feel and this is a great place to come for support. Is there
anything I or the list can help you with? Was there a particular speech
which made you feel less than?


-Anjelina
Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a 
> great time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention 
> can be a rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. 
> However, as I was listening to the online stream of the national 
> convention this year, I found myself feeling the complete opposite.
> 
> Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself 
> feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the 
> speaches from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking 
> how lucky they must be that the only disability they have to deal with 
> in their lives was there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it 
> must be fore someone who is only blind, and how more difficult it is 
> for someone who has another disability in addition to being blind.
> 
> Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list, 
> but I was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if 
> so, what did you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would 
> greatly appreciate hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind
of issue before.
> 
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
nabs-l:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/anjelinac%40att.ne
> t


From mikgephart at icloud.com  Sun Jul 13 00:03:37 2014
From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 20:03:37 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS2955A8D3BF4FC61CE3D4A03BA080@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS4008968946EEEEBE300EE35BA080@phx.gbl>
	<8B979399-B1F8-4108-8AAE-4E506F646E87@att.net>
	<COL402-EAS2955A8D3BF4FC61CE3D4A03BA080@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CD51F729-9C1A-4F83-8D73-07337498D465@icloud.com>

Elizabeth,
I understand what you are saying. However, the tagline says that blindness does not have to be the defining factor. It says that other disabilities can prevent you, but not blindness. Hope this helps!
Mikayla 

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:50 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Anjelina,
> 
> Thank you for your response. Although, I am not quite sure why I am being
> applauded for being bold enough to post about something that no one else
> seems to really understand. The new tagline of the NFB states that we can
> live the life we want. I think it is great to inspire people to think this
> way about blindness. The only problem is that for someone like me who can no
> longer live the life that I want to live. It seems as though there is really
> nothing more I can do than to accept things for what they really are rather
> than how I wish they could be.
> 
> I think it was nice for Arielle to mention people who cannot read Braille
> well because they learned it as adults rather than as children. However, at
> least most of them still have a mind that is capable of learning Braille, or
> anything else they wish to learn in life. But when you happen to have a mind
> that just does not seem to work right anymore, there does not seem to be a
> whole lot that you can do about it except to learn how to accept it as being
> a part of your life. However, learning to accept this as a part of your life
> also seems to include giving up on the dreams you once had before your mind
> decided to stop working the way that it once did.
> 
> I really wish I could find some way to describe what I am going through with
> others so that perhaps someone else might be able to understand. However,
> the closest thing I have been able to find is something that is just labeled
> as some stupid euphemism that really does not exist by a past leader within
> our organization. With attitudes like this I really wonder if there is
> really anything that can be done about it so that maybe I might still be
> able to live the life that I want.
> 
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anjelina [mailto:anjelinac at att.net] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 6:47 PM
> To: Elizabeth Mohnke; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
> 
> Hi elizabeth,
> Thank you for being bold enough to post your thoughts and feelings to the
> list. Yo uare not alone in feeling inferior after hearing convention
> speeches. Arielle has given great advice. Having more than just blindness is
> not always the easiest to contend with, but if we are the best we can be
> that is all that matters.
> I know personally I felt a bit inadiquate after listening to some of the
> speakers but afterward I tried to identify what it was about them that I
> lacked. I will set small goals for myself this year such as trying to get
> more involved in my local chapter or even contributing on list more even
> though I am not as eloquent as many list members. :) You are not alone in
> how you feel and this is a great place to come for support. Is there
> anything I or the list can help you with? Was there a particular speech
> which made you feel less than?
> 
> 
> -Anjelina
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a 
>> great time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention 
>> can be a rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. 
>> However, as I was listening to the online stream of the national 
>> convention this year, I found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>> 
>> Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself 
>> feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the 
>> speaches from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking 
>> how lucky they must be that the only disability they have to deal with 
>> in their lives was there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it 
>> must be fore someone who is only blind, and how more difficult it is 
>> for someone who has another disability in addition to being blind.
>> 
>> Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list, 
>> but I was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if 
>> so, what did you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would 
>> greatly appreciate hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind
> of issue before.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Elizabeth
>> 
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From bethslists at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 00:25:19 2014
From: bethslists at gmail.com (Beth Taurasi)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:25:19 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
Message-ID: <53c1d202.5121320a.1781.ffff9a64@mx.google.com>

I would agree, Arielle.  It just bothers me that while the NFB is 
fighting for the "vanilla blind" people, they seem to think 
guardianship is ok for a mentally ill and blind person because, 
while at the CCB, the director said she wasn't comfortable 
changing the state of the guardianship because of the "mental 
health disability" or undiagnosed disabling factors.  Whuat's the 
point, then, of fighting for, in one case, the total illegality 
of guardianship?  It should be illegal just as Henry's turkey 
Service was found to be in violation of so many existing laws nd 
exploited low IQ boys.  The "guardians of the boys stole their 
money.  I am lucky in that I'm even living alone, but the 
"guardians" don't even see me in CO.  So whuat to do next!
Beth

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>, National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:03:19 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National 
Convention?

Hi Elizabeth and all,

I  think your reaction is perfectly natural and it is definitely 
one
that others have expressed inside and outside the NFB. However, I
would point out that  our leaders could also experience struggles 
in
ways that we are not aware of. For example, I know that several 
of our
national leaders learned Braille later in life, either because of
anti-Braille attitudes in their education or because they became 
blind
as adults. In a way, learning Braille later could be considered a 
kind
of disability because it is harder to become fluent in Braille 
when
one starts learning later in life. These leaders may come across 
as
impeccable in their speeches, but what we don't know is how much 
they
might have practiced beforehand or what tricks they use to 
compensate
for a slower reading speed. There are also many among us, 
probably
some in leadership, who have hidden disabilities--learning, 
mental
health or otherwise--they have not disclosed with us. In fact, I 
have
several lifelong balance and coordination problems, and suspect I
could have a  mild form of a  second disability myself. Given the
prevalence of mental health conditions (many hidden) in the
population, and the kinds of additional disabilities that often 
come
with blindness, I would probably guess that a majority of our 
members
have additional disabilities even if we cannot see them, and 
everyone
has their own real and perceived struggles even if we cannot see 
them.
My point is that while comparisons are natural, I would encourage 
all
of us to try to be the best we can be rather than comparing 
ourselves
to the front that somebody else puts forward.

Best,
Arielle

On 7/12/14, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
wrote:
 Hello All,

 I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year 
had a great
 time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention 
can be a
 rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. 
However, as I
 was listening to the online stream of the national convention 
this year, I
 found myself feeling the complete opposite.

 Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found 
myself
 feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to 
the speaches
 from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking how 
lucky they
 must be that the only disability they have to deal with in their 
lives was
 there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it must be fore 
someone who
 is only blind, and how more difficult it is for someone who has 
another
 disability in addition to being blind.

 Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email 
list, but I
 was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if 
so, what did
 you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would greatly 
appreciate
 hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind of issue 
before.

 Thanks,
 Elizabeth

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From bethslists at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 00:25:17 2014
From: bethslists at gmail.com (Beth Taurasi)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:25:17 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
Message-ID: <53c1d1ff.5121320a.1781.ffff9a62@mx.google.com>

I feel the same way as you, Liz.  I have some other disabling 
factors due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse and I 
was devalued at home, at school, and in some work settings in 
Florida and Colorado.  It's easy for the NFB people to feel like 
blindness is the only people's disabling factor they can serve, 
but they fail to recognize that mental illnesses, chronic health 
issues due to abuse, and so on also play a huge role in how the 
people act, interact, and so on.  I'm worried as heck about my 
own future because the NFB says a lot about blind parents, but 
whuat about multidisabled intelligent beings who want to bring 
children in to this world?  80% of psychiatrically ill mothers 
have their babies removed from her. s Anyone heard of Buck V. 
Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from her all because she 
was epileptic and even though she was not blind, a disability was 
present anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will not tolerate 
such actions to be taken against me or any person with or without 
multiple disabilities.
I side with you on this,
Beth

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?

Hello All,

I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year 
had a great
time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention can 
be a
rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. 
However, as I
was listening to the online stream of the national convention 
this year, I
found myself feeling the complete opposite.

Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found 
myself
feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the 
speaches
from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking how 
lucky they
must be that the only disability they have to deal with in their 
lives was
there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it must be fore 
someone who
is only blind, and how more difficult it is for someone who has 
another
disability in addition to being blind.

Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email 
list, but I
was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if 
so, what did
you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would greatly 
appreciate
hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind of issue 
before.

Thanks,
Elizabeth

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From tyler at tysdomain.com  Sun Jul 13 00:28:45 2014
From: tyler at tysdomain.com (Littlefield, Tyler)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 20:28:45 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
In-Reply-To: <53c1d1ff.5121320a.1781.ffff9a62@mx.google.com>
References: <53c1d1ff.5121320a.1781.ffff9a62@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <53C1D2BD.4070004@tysdomain.com>

You seem to have blown this out of perportion and made the thread all 
about you, again. I don't think that was the point, just that the 
speeches and people doing so much makes people feel like they're not 
doing enough, or as much as they could. How much one can actually 
accomplish is up to someone, and only -you- know if you've not done enough.
On 7/12/2014 8:25 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l wrote:
> I feel the same way as you, Liz.  I have some other disabling factors 
> due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse and I was devalued 
> at home, at school, and in some work settings in Florida and 
> Colorado.  It's easy for the NFB people to feel like blindness is the 
> only people's disabling factor they can serve, but they fail to 
> recognize that mental illnesses, chronic health issues due to abuse, 
> and so on also play a huge role in how the people act, interact, and 
> so on.  I'm worried as heck about my own future because the NFB says a 
> lot about blind parents, but whuat about multidisabled intelligent 
> beings who want to bring children in to this world?  80% of 
> psychiatrically ill mothers have their babies removed from her. s 
> Anyone heard of Buck V. Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from 
> her all because she was epileptic and even though she was not blind, a 
> disability was present anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will not 
> tolerate such actions to be taken against me or any person with or 
> without multiple disabilities.
> I side with you on this,
> Beth
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
> Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>
> Hello All,
>
> I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a 
> great
> time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention can be a
> rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. However, as I
> was listening to the online stream of the national convention this 
> year, I
> found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>
> Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself
> feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the 
> speaches
> from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking how lucky 
> they
> must be that the only disability they have to deal with in their lives 
> was
> there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it must be fore someone 
> who
> is only blind, and how more difficult it is for someone who has another
> disability in addition to being blind.
>
> Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list, 
> but I
> was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if so, 
> what did
> you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would greatly appreciate
> hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind of issue before.
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 00:41:29 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 20:41:29 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
In-Reply-To: <COL402-EAS4008968946EEEEBE300EE35BA080@phx.gbl>
References: <COL402-EAS4008968946EEEEBE300EE35BA080@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E1E84F3F-AFAF-46CB-83B8-430B2B0FAE33@gmail.com>

Hi Elizabeth you're not the only one feeling inadequate. Even though I did not get a chance to listen to the streaming of this year's convention I also feel inadequate when I hear various speeches from Nfb leaders. I feel inadequate when I r{{?"}}ead about people doing things for themselves and knowing I cannot do most things for myself. I am still working on my independent liuing skills. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 5:29 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a great
> time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention can be a
> rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. However, as I
> was listening to the online stream of the national convention this year, I
> found myself feeling the complete opposite.
> 
> Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself
> feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the speaches
> from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking how lucky they
> must be that the only disability they have to deal with in their lives was
> there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it must be fore someone who
> is only blind, and how more difficult it is for someone who has another
> disability in addition to being blind.
> 
> Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list, but I
> was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if so, what did
> you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would greatly appreciate
> hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind of issue before.
> 
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
> 
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 00:53:27 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 20:53:27 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Let's Pray For Cassie Stay
Message-ID: <53c1d887.e733ec0a.5f1c.345b@mx.google.com>

Hi Texas Members and all,

Let's all keep fifteen-year-old Cassie Stay in our thoughts and 
prayers this week.  She is the girl from Houston, Texas who lost 
her family in a horrible shooting.  She is such a brave young 
girl and she is very strong.


From anjelinac at att.net  Sun Jul 13 01:46:53 2014
From: anjelinac at att.net (Anjelina Cruz)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:46:53 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
In-Reply-To: <53c1d1ff.5121320a.1781.ffff9a62@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <1405216013.86856.YahooMailBasic@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
Elizabeth, the reason why I said you are bold is because you were willing to be vulnerable on such a pubblic list. It's not easy to share frustrations.
I may not be able to 100 percent relate to how you are feeling, but I can empathize with you. I have a friend who is deaf-blind. She is unable to cross streets without assistance from sighted passerbys or a sign. Even though she cannot complete all tasks exactly the way someone who is blind would, she's found ways to either work around her additional disability or realize her limitations. I'm not at all saying this is the same for you.
I hope in the NFB there is a place for everyone no matter their disability.


Anjelina
--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 7/13/14, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
 To: "Elizabeth Mohnke" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>, "National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
 Date: Sunday, July 13, 2014, 12:25 AM
 
 I feel the same way as you,
 Liz.  I have some other disabling 
 factors due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse
 and I 
 was devalued at home, at school, and in some work settings
 in 
 Florida and Colorado.  It's easy for the NFB people to
 feel like 
 blindness is the only people's disabling factor they can
 serve, 
 but they fail to recognize that mental illnesses, chronic
 health 
 issues due to abuse, and so on also play a huge role in how
 the 
 people act, interact, and so on.  I'm worried as heck
 about my 
 own future because the NFB says a lot about blind parents,
 but 
 whuat about multidisabled intelligent beings who want to
 bring 
 children in to this world?  80% of psychiatrically ill
 mothers 
 have their babies removed from her. s Anyone heard of Buck
 V. 
 Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from her all
 because she 
 was epileptic and even though she was not blind, a
 disability was 
 present anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will
 not tolerate 
 such actions to be taken against me or any person with or
 without 
 multiple disabilities.
 I side with you on this,
 Beth
 
  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
 
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
 Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National
 Convention?
 
 Hello All,
 
 I hope everyone who attended the national convention this
 year 
 had a great
 time in Orlando. I understand attending a national
 convention can 
 be a
 rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind.
 
 However, as I
 was listening to the online stream of the national
 convention 
 this year, I
 found myself feeling the complete opposite.
 
 Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I
 found 
 myself
 feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening
 to the 
 speaches
 from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking
 how 
 lucky they
 must be that the only disability they have to deal with in
 their 
 lives was
 there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it must be
 fore 
 someone who
 is only blind, and how more difficult it is for someone who
 has 
 another
 disability in addition to being blind.
 
 Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the
 email 
 list, but I
 was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and
 if 
 so, what did
 you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would greatly
 
 appreciate
 hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind of
 issue 
 before.
 
 Thanks,
 Elizabeth
 
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From arielle71 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 02:12:32 2014
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 19:12:32 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
In-Reply-To: <1405216013.86856.YahooMailBasic@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <53c1d1ff.5121320a.1781.ffff9a62@mx.google.com>
	<1405216013.86856.YahooMailBasic@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CALAYQJD-JTkCYw5j-37BJBjEqMe+ChogdPRtXphx+JX2TMXNZA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Elizabeth,

I don't know what your secondary disability is (nor is it my place to
ask) but just want to say I think your former NFB leader's comment was
way out of line. In fact, I'd put it in the same category as any
racist, sexist or homophobic remark--none of which should be tolerated
in our organization. Clearly if a disability is interfering with your
mental function or learning--even if it is invisible, or easily
treatable--it is very much real.
I  hope you spoke with this person's NFB superior about this--e.g. if
it was your state vice-president who said this talk to the president.
If it was your state president, perhaps try to talk to someone at
national.
IMO, an NFB leader's job is to welcome and support all members--even
if they make choices we disagree with, or even if we can't personally
relate to their experiences.
As for the tagline, I  think it can apply to anyone with any
disability. "Live the life you want" is an ideal we can all strive for
by doing the best we can. We might not always be able to do what we
want to do in life exactly--and everyone has to revise their ambitions
to an extent to match the realities of life circumstances. But if we
encounter barriers we can be hopeful that we might be able  to find
solutions. We might not get to do all the things we want exactly when
we want to do them but we can use this philosophy to get closer to
those dreams than we were before.

Best,
Arielle

On 7/12/14, Anjelina Cruz via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Elizabeth, the reason why I said you are bold is because you were willing to
> be vulnerable on such a pubblic list. It's not easy to share frustrations.
> I may not be able to 100 percent relate to how you are feeling, but I can
> empathize with you. I have a friend who is deaf-blind. She is unable to
> cross streets without assistance from sighted passerbys or a sign. Even
> though she cannot complete all tasks exactly the way someone who is blind
> would, she's found ways to either work around her additional disability or
> realize her limitations. I'm not at all saying this is the same for you.
> I hope in the NFB there is a place for everyone no matter their disability.
>
>
> Anjelina
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 7/13/14, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>  To: "Elizabeth Mohnke" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>, "National Association of
> Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>  Date: Sunday, July 13, 2014, 12:25 AM
>
>  I feel the same way as you,
>  Liz.  I have some other disabling
>  factors due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse
>  and I
>  was devalued at home, at school, and in some work settings
>  in
>  Florida and Colorado.  It's easy for the NFB people to
>  feel like
>  blindness is the only people's disabling factor they can
>  serve,
>  but they fail to recognize that mental illnesses, chronic
>  health
>  issues due to abuse, and so on also play a huge role in how
>  the
>  people act, interact, and so on.  I'm worried as heck
>  about my
>  own future because the NFB says a lot about blind parents,
>  but
>  whuat about multidisabled intelligent beings who want to
>  bring
>  children in to this world?  80% of psychiatrically ill
>  mothers
>  have their babies removed from her. s Anyone heard of Buck
>  V.
>  Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from her all
>  because she
>  was epileptic and even though she was not blind, a
>  disability was
>  present anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will
>  not tolerate
>  such actions to be taken against me or any person with or
>  without
>  multiple disabilities.
>  I side with you on this,
>  Beth
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
>  Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National
>  Convention?
>
>  Hello All,
>
>  I hope everyone who attended the national convention this
>  year
>  had a great
>  time in Orlando. I understand attending a national
>  convention can
>  be a
>  rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind.
>
>  However, as I
>  was listening to the online stream of the national
>  convention
>  this year, I
>  found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>
>  Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I
>  found
>  myself
>  feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening
>  to the
>  speaches
>  from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking
>  how
>  lucky they
>  must be that the only disability they have to deal with in
>  their
>  lives was
>  there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it must be
>  fore
>  someone who
>  is only blind, and how more difficult it is for someone who
>  has
>  another
>  disability in addition to being blind.
>
>  Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the
>  email
>  list, but I
>  was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and
>  if
>  so, what did
>  you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would greatly
>
>  appreciate
>  hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind of
>  issue
>  before.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Elizabeth
>
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 13 02:28:58 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 22:28:58 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
In-Reply-To: <CALAYQJD-JTkCYw5j-37BJBjEqMe+ChogdPRtXphx+JX2TMXNZA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <53c1d1ff.5121320a.1781.ffff9a62@mx.google.com>	<1405216013.86856.YahooMailBasic@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
	<CALAYQJD-JTkCYw5j-37BJBjEqMe+ChogdPRtXphx+JX2TMXNZA@mail.gmail.com>
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Hello Arielle,

Unfortunately, I do not believe there is much that can be done about the remarks of this particular leader except perhaps see them in the time in which they were given. They were actually words from either a speech or an article by Dr. Jernigan that appears in an old issue of the Braille Monitor. This was pretty much the only thing I could find regarding blindness and this particular disability even though they both seem relatively common on their own. I sent you a longer more descriptive email off list with the hopes that perhaps you might be able to give me some suggestions without going into the details on the email list.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth




-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Arielle Silverman via nabs-l
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:13 PM
To: Anjelina Cruz; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?

Hi Elizabeth,

I don't know what your secondary disability is (nor is it my place to
ask) but just want to say I think your former NFB leader's comment was way out of line. In fact, I'd put it in the same category as any racist, sexist or homophobic remark--none of which should be tolerated in our organization. Clearly if a disability is interfering with your mental function or learning--even if it is invisible, or easily treatable--it is very much real.
I  hope you spoke with this person's NFB superior about this--e.g. if it was your state vice-president who said this talk to the president.
If it was your state president, perhaps try to talk to someone at national.
IMO, an NFB leader's job is to welcome and support all members--even if they make choices we disagree with, or even if we can't personally relate to their experiences.
As for the tagline, I  think it can apply to anyone with any disability. "Live the life you want" is an ideal we can all strive for by doing the best we can. We might not always be able to do what we want to do in life exactly--and everyone has to revise their ambitions to an extent to match the realities of life circumstances. But if we encounter barriers we can be hopeful that we might be able  to find solutions. We might not get to do all the things we want exactly when we want to do them but we can use this philosophy to get closer to those dreams than we were before.

Best,
Arielle

On 7/12/14, Anjelina Cruz via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Elizabeth, the reason why I said you are bold is because you were 
> willing to be vulnerable on such a pubblic list. It's not easy to share frustrations.
> I may not be able to 100 percent relate to how you are feeling, but I 
> can empathize with you. I have a friend who is deaf-blind. She is 
> unable to cross streets without assistance from sighted passerbys or a 
> sign. Even though she cannot complete all tasks exactly the way 
> someone who is blind would, she's found ways to either work around her 
> additional disability or realize her limitations. I'm not at all saying this is the same for you.
> I hope in the NFB there is a place for everyone no matter their disability.
>
>
> Anjelina
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sun, 7/13/14, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>  To: "Elizabeth Mohnke" <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>, "National Association 
> of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>  Date: Sunday, July 13, 2014, 12:25 AM
>
>  I feel the same way as you,
>  Liz.  I have some other disabling
>  factors due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse  and I  
> was devalued at home, at school, and in some work settings  in  
> Florida and Colorado.  It's easy for the NFB people to  feel like  
> blindness is the only people's disabling factor they can  serve,  but 
> they fail to recognize that mental illnesses, chronic  health  issues 
> due to abuse, and so on also play a huge role in how  the  people act, 
> interact, and so on.  I'm worried as heck  about my  own future 
> because the NFB says a lot about blind parents,  but  whuat about 
> multidisabled intelligent beings who want to  bring  children in to 
> this world?  80% of psychiatrically ill  mothers  have their babies 
> removed from her. s Anyone heard of Buck  V.
>  Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from her all  because she  was 
> epileptic and even though she was not blind, a  disability was  
> present anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will  not tolerate  such 
> actions to be taken against me or any person with or  without  
> multiple disabilities.
>  I side with you on this,
>  Beth
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>
>  <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>  Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
>  Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National  Convention?
>
>  Hello All,
>
>  I hope everyone who attended the national convention this  year  had 
> a great  time in Orlando. I understand attending a national  
> convention can  be a  rather inspiring event in the life of someone 
> who is blind.
>
>  However, as I
>  was listening to the online stream of the national  convention  this 
> year, I  found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>
>  Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I  found  
> myself  feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening  to 
> the  speaches  from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself 
> thinking  how  lucky they  must be that the only disability they have 
> to deal with in  their  lives was  there blindness. I was thinking 
> about how easy it must be  fore  someone who  is only blind, and how 
> more difficult it is for someone who  has  another  disability in 
> addition to being blind.
>
>  Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the  email  
> list, but I  was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, 
> and  if  so, what did  you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I 
> would greatly
>
>  appreciate
>  hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind of  issue  
> before.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Elizabeth
>
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 03:52:28 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 23:52:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Let's Pray For Cassie Stay
In-Reply-To: <53c1d887.e733ec0a.5f1c.345b@mx.google.com>
References: <53c1d887.e733ec0a.5f1c.345b@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4C5F5D76D0154AF1A20DE0A5634377F6@Helga>

Hi Roanna! How are you? I just wanted to ask you, when did this happen? When 
did she lost her family members? Just wondering! since I actually don't know 
since I don't watch TV due to the fact I don't have cable! LOL! Hope to hear 
from you soon. Thanks and God bless!! :)
P.S. And I'm definitely going to pray for her! And by the way, how do you 
know her? Do you have any contact number in how I can reach her and talk to 
her? Just curious! Thanks again! ;)



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

Phone: (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
-----Original Message----- 
From: Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:53 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Let's Pray For Cassie Stay

Hi Texas Members and all,

Let's all keep fifteen-year-old Cassie Stay in our thoughts and
prayers this week.  She is the girl from Houston, Texas who lost
her family in a horrible shooting.  She is such a brave young
girl and she is very strong.

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From jhud7789 at outlook.com  Sun Jul 13 04:08:44 2014
From: jhud7789 at outlook.com (Joeph Hudson)
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 23:08:44 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Let's Pray For Cassie Stay
In-Reply-To: <53c1d887.e733ec0a.5f1c.345b@mx.google.com>
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Message-ID: <BLU405-EAS2665BB7BCF0CB47BAC4540CCE0B0@phx.gbl>

Oh I am very sorry that happened, I will definitely be thinking of the family.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:54 PM, "Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Texas Members and all,
> 
> Let's all keep fifteen-year-old Cassie Stay in our thoughts and prayers this week.  She is the girl from Houston, Texas who lost her family in a horrible shooting.  She is such a brave young girl and she is very strong.
> 
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From jim.hulme at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 06:55:12 2014
From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 02:55:12 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Let's Pray For Cassie Stay
In-Reply-To: <BLU405-EAS2665BB7BCF0CB47BAC4540CCE0B0@phx.gbl>
References: <53c1d887.e733ec0a.5f1c.345b@mx.google.com>
	<BLU405-EAS2665BB7BCF0CB47BAC4540CCE0B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAKMC2e7ySyGFxtLGtjT=6XLhLJHn+rPrSk6Wig8B79JPksurFA@mail.gmail.com>

To Joseph Hudson, Roanna, and Helga,


here are the articles regarding the situation that Roanna has mentioned. It
is all over the news and the press/media right now. July 10, 2014.

I do not watch much tv back here in NJ either but I did Google searches and
found these interesting articles. I will pray for the safety of this little
girl.  Please respond back to my e-mail.

I hate to read stories like this one, but did anyone teach this little girl
to never answer the door for strangers?


Six dead in Texas
<http://www.neontommy.com/news/2014/07/six-dead-texas-shooting>

Los Angeles Times' Story about the lone survivor in a suburban Texas town
<http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-heroine-houston-shooting-memorial-20140712-story.html>



Please read these articles and please send comments to the authors of these
articles if you wish through various social media like FB or Twitter.

Hope that helps.


James Hulme
jim.hulme at gmail.com


On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Joeph Hudson via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> wrote:

> Oh I am very sorry that happened, I will definitely be thinking of the
> family.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:54 PM, "Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l" <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Texas Members and all,
> >
> > Let's all keep fifteen-year-old Cassie Stay in our thoughts and prayers
> this week.  She is the girl from Houston, Texas who lost her family in a
> horrible shooting.  She is such a brave young girl and she is very strong.
> >
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From carlymih at comcast.net  Sun Jul 13 14:12:55 2014
From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 07:12:55 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
In-Reply-To: <53C1D2BD.4070004@tysdomain.com>
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	<53C1D2BD.4070004@tysdomain.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.104.1772982278.2863824.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

Good morning, Elizabeth,

Personally, I was bienucleated (had both ocular organs surgically 
removed) after having retinal blastoma as an infant. And, I have come 
into a realization that,  without so much as a shaddow of a doubt, I 
want no part of synthetic means of artificially tweeking with nature, 
such that I, too, can proliferate this genetic cespool of mine, just 
so someone with genes ill fit for proliferation, can conceive of  and 
then carry to term their own kid! Personally, I think I have come to 
realize that, the universe doesn't mean for me to prolifferate my 
genetics and I accept this. For, the world seems to becoming strange, 
beyond my wildest dreams and seems not to be a welcoming place for 
any creature, let alone a fruit of my corrupt loins. Just some 
meditation on the question for people to take, or leave, as they see fit.
for today, Car


perportion and made the thread all about you, again. I don't think 
that was the point, just that the speeches and people doing so much 
makes people feel like they're not doing enough, or as much as they 
could. How much one can actually accomplish is up to someone, and 
only -you- know if you've not done enough.
>On 7/12/2014 8:25 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l wrote:
>>I feel the same way as you, Liz.  I have some other disabling 
>>factors due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse and I 
>>was devalued at home, at school, and in some work settings in 
>>Florida and Colorado.  It's easy for the NFB people to feel like 
>>blindness is the only people's disabling factor they can serve, but 
>>they fail to recognize that mental illnesses, chronic health issues 
>>due to abuse, and so on also play a huge role in how the people 
>>act, interact, and so on.  I'm worried as heck about my own future 
>>because the NFB says a lot about blind parents, but whuat about 
>>multidisabled intelligent beings who want to bring children in to 
>>this world?  80% of psychiatrically ill mothers have their babies 
>>removed from her. s Anyone heard of Buck V. Bell?  Carrie Buck had 
>>her kid removed from her all because she was epileptic and even 
>>though she was not blind, a disability was present anyway.  Then, 
>>she was sterilized.  I will not tolerate such actions to be taken 
>>against me or any person with or without multiple disabilities.
>>I side with you on this,
>>Beth
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
>>Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>
>>Hello All,
>>
>>I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a great
>>time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention can be a
>>rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. However, as I
>>was listening to the online stream of the national convention this year, I
>>found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>>
>>Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself
>>feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the speaches
>>from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking how lucky they
>>must be that the only disability they have to deal with in their lives was
>>there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it must be fore someone who
>>is only blind, and how more difficult it is for someone who has another
>>disability in addition to being blind.
>>
>>Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list, but I
>>was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if so, what did
>>you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would greatly appreciate
>>hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind of issue before.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Elizabeth
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>nabs-l mailing list
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 13 16:28:32 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 12:28:32 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
In-Reply-To: <COL004-MC4F40Gxw8Zw000f1a9e@COL004-MC4F40.hotmail.com>
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	<COL004-MC4F40Gxw8Zw000f1a9e@COL004-MC4F40.hotmail.com>
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Hello Carly,

I am honestly not quite sure how my post about feeling defeated and
inadequate turned into a thread about not being able to become a blind
parent. My post had absolutely nothing to do with this. The last time I
checked, this was an email list for blind students and not blind parents. As
I look around this organization, all I seem to see are leaders who have been
successful at being a college student. They are either succeeding in their
classes, are successful college graduates, or have pursued the career of
their choice. This makes me feel inadequate because there is the possibility
none of these things will ever happened to me in my own life. And I guess
learning to embrace this possibility in my life is rather difficult for me.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth


-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis
via nabs-l
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:13 AM
To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing
list; Beth Taurasi; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?

Good morning, Elizabeth,

Personally, I was bienucleated (had both ocular organs surgically
removed) after having retinal blastoma as an infant. And, I have come into a
realization that,  without so much as a shaddow of a doubt, I want no part
of synthetic means of artificially tweeking with nature, such that I, too,
can proliferate this genetic cespool of mine, just so someone with genes ill
fit for proliferation, can conceive of  and then carry to term their own
kid! Personally, I think I have come to realize that, the universe doesn't
mean for me to prolifferate my genetics and I accept this. For, the world
seems to becoming strange, beyond my wildest dreams and seems not to be a
welcoming place for any creature, let alone a fruit of my corrupt loins.
Just some meditation on the question for people to take, or leave, as they
see fit.
for today, Car


perportion and made the thread all about you, again. I don't think that was
the point, just that the speeches and people doing so much makes people feel
like they're not doing enough, or as much as they could. How much one can
actually accomplish is up to someone, and only -you- know if you've not done
enough.
>On 7/12/2014 8:25 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l wrote:
>>I feel the same way as you, Liz.  I have some other disabling factors 
>>due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse and I was devalued 
>>at home, at school, and in some work settings in Florida and Colorado.  
>>It's easy for the NFB people to feel like blindness is the only 
>>people's disabling factor they can serve, but they fail to recognize 
>>that mental illnesses, chronic health issues due to abuse, and so on 
>>also play a huge role in how the people act, interact, and so on.  I'm 
>>worried as heck about my own future because the NFB says a lot about 
>>blind parents, but whuat about multidisabled intelligent beings who 
>>want to bring children in to this world?  80% of psychiatrically ill 
>>mothers have their babies removed from her. s Anyone heard of Buck V. 
>>Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from her all because she was 
>>epileptic and even though she was not blind, a disability was present 
>>anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will not tolerate such actions 
>>to be taken against me or any person with or without multiple 
>>disabilities.
>>I side with you on this,
>>Beth
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
>>Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>
>>Hello All,
>>
>>I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a 
>>great time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention 
>>can be a rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. 
>>However, as I was listening to the online stream of the national 
>>convention this year, I found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>>
>>Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself 
>>feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the 
>>speaches from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking 
>>how lucky they must be that the only disability they have to deal with 
>>in their lives was there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it 
>>must be fore someone who is only blind, and how more difficult it is 
>>for someone who has another disability in addition to being blind.
>>
>>Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list, 
>>but I was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if 
>>so, what did you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would 
>>greatly appreciate hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind
of issue before.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Elizabeth
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>nabs-l mailing list
>>nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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nabs-l:
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>
>--
>Take care,
>Ty
>http://tds-solutions.net
>He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he 
>that dares not reason is a slave.
>
>
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From codeofdusk at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 16:34:31 2014
From: codeofdusk at gmail.com (Bill Dengler)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 12:34:31 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Let's Pray For Cassie Stay
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But how does this have to do with NABS? Is the girl blind?

Bill
> On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:55 AM, James Hulme via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> To Joseph Hudson, Roanna, and Helga,
> 
> 
> here are the articles regarding the situation that Roanna has mentioned. It
> is all over the news and the press/media right now. July 10, 2014.
> 
> I do not watch much tv back here in NJ either but I did Google searches and
> found these interesting articles. I will pray for the safety of this little
> girl.  Please respond back to my e-mail.
> 
> I hate to read stories like this one, but did anyone teach this little girl
> to never answer the door for strangers?
> 
> 
> Six dead in Texas
> <http://www.neontommy.com/news/2014/07/six-dead-texas-shooting>
> 
> Los Angeles Times' Story about the lone survivor in a suburban Texas town
> <http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-heroine-houston-shooting-memorial-20140712-story.html>
> 
> 
> 
> Please read these articles and please send comments to the authors of these
> articles if you wish through various social media like FB or Twitter.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
> James Hulme
> jim.hulme at gmail.com
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Joeph Hudson via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> wrote:
> 
>> Oh I am very sorry that happened, I will definitely be thinking of the
>> family.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:54 PM, "Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l" <
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Texas Members and all,
>>> 
>>> Let's all keep fifteen-year-old Cassie Stay in our thoughts and prayers
>> this week.  She is the girl from Houston, Texas who lost her family in a
>> horrible shooting.  She is such a brave young girl and she is very strong.
>>> 
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 16:38:54 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 12:38:54 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
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Dear
Elizabeth, I myself am not a member of the NFB, and like you, I to have a 
secondary disability. I have CP. If you wish, you may email me off list at:
joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Or you may add me to skype at:
smallistbaby1979
RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Carly Mihalakis'" <carlymih at comcast.net>; "'National Association of 
Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?


> Hello Carly,
>
> I am honestly not quite sure how my post about feeling defeated and
> inadequate turned into a thread about not being able to become a blind
> parent. My post had absolutely nothing to do with this. The last time I
> checked, this was an email list for blind students and not blind parents. 
> As
> I look around this organization, all I seem to see are leaders who have 
> been
> successful at being a college student. They are either succeeding in their
> classes, are successful college graduates, or have pursued the career of
> their choice. This makes me feel inadequate because there is the 
> possibility
> none of these things will ever happened to me in my own life. And I guess
> learning to embrace this possibility in my life is rather difficult for 
> me.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly 
> Mihalakis
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:13 AM
> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing
> list; Beth Taurasi; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>
> Good morning, Elizabeth,
>
> Personally, I was bienucleated (had both ocular organs surgically
> removed) after having retinal blastoma as an infant. And, I have come into 
> a
> realization that,  without so much as a shaddow of a doubt, I want no part
> of synthetic means of artificially tweeking with nature, such that I, too,
> can proliferate this genetic cespool of mine, just so someone with genes 
> ill
> fit for proliferation, can conceive of  and then carry to term their own
> kid! Personally, I think I have come to realize that, the universe doesn't
> mean for me to prolifferate my genetics and I accept this. For, the world
> seems to becoming strange, beyond my wildest dreams and seems not to be a
> welcoming place for any creature, let alone a fruit of my corrupt loins.
> Just some meditation on the question for people to take, or leave, as they
> see fit.
> for today, Car
>
>
> perportion and made the thread all about you, again. I don't think that 
> was
> the point, just that the speeches and people doing so much makes people 
> feel
> like they're not doing enough, or as much as they could. How much one can
> actually accomplish is up to someone, and only -you- know if you've not 
> done
> enough.
>>On 7/12/2014 8:25 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l wrote:
>>>I feel the same way as you, Liz.  I have some other disabling factors
>>>due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse and I was devalued
>>>at home, at school, and in some work settings in Florida and Colorado.
>>>It's easy for the NFB people to feel like blindness is the only
>>>people's disabling factor they can serve, but they fail to recognize
>>>that mental illnesses, chronic health issues due to abuse, and so on
>>>also play a huge role in how the people act, interact, and so on.  I'm
>>>worried as heck about my own future because the NFB says a lot about
>>>blind parents, but whuat about multidisabled intelligent beings who
>>>want to bring children in to this world?  80% of psychiatrically ill
>>>mothers have their babies removed from her. s Anyone heard of Buck V.
>>>Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from her all because she was
>>>epileptic and even though she was not blind, a disability was present
>>>anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will not tolerate such actions
>>>to be taken against me or any person with or without multiple
>>>disabilities.
>>>I side with you on this,
>>>Beth
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
>>>Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>>
>>>Hello All,
>>>
>>>I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a
>>>great time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention
>>>can be a rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind.
>>>However, as I was listening to the online stream of the national
>>>convention this year, I found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>>>
>>>Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself
>>>feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the
>>>speaches from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking
>>>how lucky they must be that the only disability they have to deal with
>>>in their lives was there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it
>>>must be fore someone who is only blind, and how more difficult it is
>>>for someone who has another disability in addition to being blind.
>>>
>>>Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list,
>>>but I was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if
>>>so, what did you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would
>>>greatly appreciate hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind
> of issue before.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Elizabeth
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>nabs-l mailing list
>>>nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nabs-l:
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>>>com
>>
>>
>>--
>>Take care,
>>Ty
>>http://tds-solutions.net
>>He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he
>>that dares not reason is a slave.
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>>net
>
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From carlymih at comcast.net  Sun Jul 13 16:57:08 2014
From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:57:08 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
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Good morning, Elizabeth,

         Like RJ, I am not a member of the Federation although I try 
to see it in terms of the context of the times in which it was 
conceived, to honor doctors TenBroeks and, later Dr. Maur's gifting 
blind cohesion and organization.Personally, I became brain damaged 10 
years ago, so  I guess I am multipli handicapped, too.
for today, Car


>Dear
>Elizabeth, I myself am not a member of the NFB, and like you, I to 
>have a secondary disability. I have CP. If you wish, you may email 
>me off list at:
>joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>Or you may add me to skype at:
>smallistbaby1979
>RJ
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" 
><nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>To: "'Carly Mihalakis'" <carlymih at comcast.net>; "'National 
>Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:28 PM
>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>
>
>>Hello Carly,
>>
>>I am honestly not quite sure how my post about feeling defeated and
>>inadequate turned into a thread about not being able to become a blind
>>parent. My post had absolutely nothing to do with this. The last time I
>>checked, this was an email list for blind students and not blind parents. As
>>I look around this organization, all I seem to see are leaders who have been
>>successful at being a college student. They are either succeeding in their
>>classes, are successful college graduates, or have pursued the career of
>>their choice. This makes me feel inadequate because there is the possibility
>>none of these things will ever happened to me in my own life. And I guess
>>learning to embrace this possibility in my life is rather difficult for me.
>>
>>Warm regards,
>>Elizabeth
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis
>>via nabs-l
>>Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:13 AM
>>To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>list; Beth Taurasi; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>
>>Good morning, Elizabeth,
>>
>>Personally, I was bienucleated (had both ocular organs surgically
>>removed) after having retinal blastoma as an infant. And, I have come into a
>>realization that,  without so much as a shaddow of a doubt, I want no part
>>of synthetic means of artificially tweeking with nature, such that I, too,
>>can proliferate this genetic cespool of mine, just so someone with genes ill
>>fit for proliferation, can conceive of  and then carry to term their own
>>kid! Personally, I think I have come to realize that, the universe doesn't
>>mean for me to prolifferate my genetics and I accept this. For, the world
>>seems to becoming strange, beyond my wildest dreams and seems not to be a
>>welcoming place for any creature, let alone a fruit of my corrupt loins.
>>Just some meditation on the question for people to take, or leave, as they
>>see fit.
>>for today, Car
>>
>>
>>perportion and made the thread all about you, again. I don't think that was
>>the point, just that the speeches and people doing so much makes people feel
>>like they're not doing enough, or as much as they could. How much one can
>>actually accomplish is up to someone, and only -you- know if you've not done
>>enough.
>>>On 7/12/2014 8:25 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>I feel the same way as you, Liz.  I have some other disabling factors
>>>>due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse and I was devalued
>>>>at home, at school, and in some work settings in Florida and Colorado.
>>>>It's easy for the NFB people to feel like blindness is the only
>>>>people's disabling factor they can serve, but they fail to recognize
>>>>that mental illnesses, chronic health issues due to abuse, and so on
>>>>also play a huge role in how the people act, interact, and so on.  I'm
>>>>worried as heck about my own future because the NFB says a lot about
>>>>blind parents, but whuat about multidisabled intelligent beings who
>>>>want to bring children in to this world?  80% of psychiatrically ill
>>>>mothers have their babies removed from her. s Anyone heard of Buck V.
>>>>Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from her all because she was
>>>>epileptic and even though she was not blind, a disability was present
>>>>anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will not tolerate such actions
>>>>to be taken against me or any person with or without multiple
>>>>disabilities.
>>>>I side with you on this,
>>>>Beth
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>>>
>>>>Hello All,
>>>>
>>>>I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a
>>>>great time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention
>>>>can be a rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind.
>>>>However, as I was listening to the online stream of the national
>>>>convention this year, I found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>>>>
>>>>Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself
>>>>feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the
>>>>speaches from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking
>>>>how lucky they must be that the only disability they have to deal with
>>>>in their lives was there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it
>>>>must be fore someone who is only blind, and how more difficult it is
>>>>for someone who has another disability in addition to being blind.
>>>>
>>>>Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list,
>>>>but I was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if
>>>>so, what did you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would
>>>>greatly appreciate hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind
>>of issue before.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>nabs-l mailing list
>>>>nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>nabs-l:
>>>>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bethslists%40
>>>>gmail.com
>>>>
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>>>>To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>nabs-l:
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>>>>com
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Take care,
>>>Ty
>>>http://tds-solutions.net
>>>He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he
>>>that dares not reason is a slave.
>>>
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
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From shickeytha at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 17:54:45 2014
From: shickeytha at gmail.com (Shickeytha Chandler)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:54:45 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
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Hi Elizabeth,

I'm certainly no expert on secondary disabilities, but I can't help
but wonder if maybe you are seeing your limitations as greater and
more limiting than they actually are. Again, I have no knowledge of
your specific circumstances, but one thing I do know is that it is
often easier to focus on our limitations than on our strengths and
abilities. Do you think it might be helpful to you if you begin to
think about the things that you are capable of doing, things that
interest you, etc. Additionally, if there are things that you feel you
cannot do, do you think it might be helpful to try to come up with
techniques or assistive technology or other accommodations that might
help you to do those things that feel so impossible for you right now?
You might even consider getting advice or recommendations from others,
such as people on this list, a Vocational Rehabilitation counselor, a
trusted friend or family member, etc. I would imagine that it would
also be important to determine which of your limitations are due to
blindness, which ones are due to your secondary disabilitie, and which
ones are a result of both. You certainly seem to be good at expressing
your feelings and what is going on with you, so that self-awareness is
a good thing.

My personal philosophy is to set my goals high, do my best, but not
get too disappointed if I fall short, but rather focus on my
accomplishments. There is a saying I heard once that I think is
relevant. I don't recall who this quote is from, but it says something
to the effect of, "Shoot for the moon. If you miss, at least you will
land among the stars."

Good luck,

Shickeytha

On 7/13/14, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Good morning, Elizabeth,
>
>          Like RJ, I am not a member of the Federation although I try
> to see it in terms of the context of the times in which it was
> conceived, to honor doctors TenBroeks and, later Dr. Maur's gifting
> blind cohesion and organization.Personally, I became brain damaged 10
> years ago, so  I guess I am multipli handicapped, too.
> for today, Car
>
>
>>Dear
>>Elizabeth, I myself am not a member of the NFB, and like you, I to
>>have a secondary disability. I have CP. If you wish, you may email
>>me off list at:
>>joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>>Or you may add me to skype at:
>>smallistbaby1979
>>RJ
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l"
>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>To: "'Carly Mihalakis'" <carlymih at comcast.net>; "'National
>>Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:28 PM
>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>
>>
>>>Hello Carly,
>>>
>>>I am honestly not quite sure how my post about feeling defeated and
>>>inadequate turned into a thread about not being able to become a blind
>>>parent. My post had absolutely nothing to do with this. The last time I
>>>checked, this was an email list for blind students and not blind parents.
>>> As
>>>I look around this organization, all I seem to see are leaders who have
>>> been
>>>successful at being a college student. They are either succeeding in
>>> their
>>>classes, are successful college graduates, or have pursued the career of
>>>their choice. This makes me feel inadequate because there is the
>>> possibility
>>>none of these things will ever happened to me in my own life. And I guess
>>>learning to embrace this possibility in my life is rather difficult for
>>> me.
>>>
>>>Warm regards,
>>>Elizabeth
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly
>>> Mihalakis
>>>via nabs-l
>>>Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:13 AM
>>>To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>list; Beth Taurasi; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>>
>>>Good morning, Elizabeth,
>>>
>>>Personally, I was bienucleated (had both ocular organs surgically
>>>removed) after having retinal blastoma as an infant. And, I have come into
>>> a
>>>realization that,  without so much as a shaddow of a doubt, I want no
>>> part
>>>of synthetic means of artificially tweeking with nature, such that I,
>>> too,
>>>can proliferate this genetic cespool of mine, just so someone with genes
>>> ill
>>>fit for proliferation, can conceive of  and then carry to term their own
>>>kid! Personally, I think I have come to realize that, the universe
>>> doesn't
>>>mean for me to prolifferate my genetics and I accept this. For, the world
>>>seems to becoming strange, beyond my wildest dreams and seems not to be a
>>>welcoming place for any creature, let alone a fruit of my corrupt loins.
>>>Just some meditation on the question for people to take, or leave, as
>>> they
>>>see fit.
>>>for today, Car
>>>
>>>
>>>perportion and made the thread all about you, again. I don't think that
>>> was
>>>the point, just that the speeches and people doing so much makes people
>>> feel
>>>like they're not doing enough, or as much as they could. How much one can
>>>actually accomplish is up to someone, and only -you- know if you've not
>>> done
>>>enough.
>>>>On 7/12/2014 8:25 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>>I feel the same way as you, Liz.  I have some other disabling factors
>>>>>due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse and I was devalued
>>>>>at home, at school, and in some work settings in Florida and Colorado.
>>>>>It's easy for the NFB people to feel like blindness is the only
>>>>>people's disabling factor they can serve, but they fail to recognize
>>>>>that mental illnesses, chronic health issues due to abuse, and so on
>>>>>also play a huge role in how the people act, interact, and so on.  I'm
>>>>>worried as heck about my own future because the NFB says a lot about
>>>>>blind parents, but whuat about multidisabled intelligent beings who
>>>>>want to bring children in to this world?  80% of psychiatrically ill
>>>>>mothers have their babies removed from her. s Anyone heard of Buck V.
>>>>>Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from her all because she was
>>>>>epileptic and even though she was not blind, a disability was present
>>>>>anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will not tolerate such actions
>>>>>to be taken against me or any person with or without multiple
>>>>>disabilities.
>>>>>I side with you on this,
>>>>>Beth
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>>><nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
>>>>>Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>>>>
>>>>>Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>>I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a
>>>>>great time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention
>>>>>can be a rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind.
>>>>>However, as I was listening to the online stream of the national
>>>>>convention this year, I found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>>>>>
>>>>>Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself
>>>>>feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the
>>>>>speaches from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking
>>>>>how lucky they must be that the only disability they have to deal with
>>>>>in their lives was there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it
>>>>>must be fore someone who is only blind, and how more difficult it is
>>>>>for someone who has another disability in addition to being blind.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list,
>>>>>but I was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if
>>>>>so, what did you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would
>>>>>greatly appreciate hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this
>>>>> kind
>>>of issue before.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Elizabeth
>>>>>
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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>>>nabs-l:
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>>>>>gmail.com
>>>>>
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>>>>>com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Take care,
>>>>Ty
>>>>http://tds-solutions.net
>>>>He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he
>>>>that dares not reason is a slave.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>>net
>>>
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From becsjoynfb at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 18:31:50 2014
From: becsjoynfb at gmail.com (Rebecca Leon)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:31:50 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
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Hey Elizabeth,
I really appreciate your courage and openness in starting this thread.
I am really new within this organization, but simply from attending
convention I can understand how seeing leaders or members within the
blind community with such incredible levels of talent or with a life
which we deem highly successful can serve to raise personal feelings
of frustration or inadequacy instead of inspiring us.
I don't necessarily think I have exactly the same problems as you.
However, I certainly have other issues then blindness including fairly
major food intolerances and some difficult but more circumstantial
issues. Obviously, this list isn't really the proper arena to discuss
all our personal issues in detail, but my point is this:
We all have stories, and, while blindness may not define us, it is
part of a long list of traits and circumstances and thoughts which
really do, although we certainly define them as well. It is easy for
us to draw up lists of very real issues with which we are struggling
and compare them with the shorter list which our friends or
acquaintances seem to have. Believe me, I've done it a lot! However,
this often isolates us and estranges us from the communities which
could most empower us. It is very easy to set up the leaders in this
organization as measuring sticks by which we belittle ourselves, and
our accomplishments, and our future, when instead they could serve as
wonderful resources as we chase our dreams! I hope all of this makes
sense and doesn't sound obnoxiously like I have my life together… I
definitely don't!
As for living the life you want despite multiple disabilities or
issues ontop of blindness, I have a close and trusted friend who I
believe has experienced many of the same life issues and with whom I
have had many similar conversations. I think she would make a great
resource as well as sounding board. I would love to get her in contact
with you if you are interested. I have already discussed this thread
with her and asked if she would let me share her contact info with
you, if you were interested. Shoot me an email if you have any
questions for me or are interested in getting in touch with my friend.
My email is:
becsjoynfb at gmail.com
Again, good job on speaking up :-)
Rebecca –


"The drop of rain maketh a hole in the stone, not by violence, but by
oft falling."
-Hugh Latimer

> On 13/07/2014, at 12:57, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Good morning, Elizabeth,
>
>        Like RJ, I am not a member of the Federation although I try to see it in terms of the context of the times in which it was conceived, to honor doctors TenBroeks and, later Dr. Maur's gifting blind cohesion and organization.Personally, I became brain damaged 10 years ago, so  I guess I am multipli handicapped, too.
> for today, Car
>
>
>> Dear
>> Elizabeth, I myself am not a member of the NFB, and like you, I to have a secondary disability. I have CP. If you wish, you may email me off list at:
>> joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>> Or you may add me to skype at:
>> smallistbaby1979
>> RJ
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'Carly Mihalakis'" <carlymih at comcast.net>; "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>
>>
>>> Hello Carly,
>>>
>>> I am honestly not quite sure how my post about feeling defeated and
>>> inadequate turned into a thread about not being able to become a blind
>>> parent. My post had absolutely nothing to do with this. The last time I
>>> checked, this was an email list for blind students and not blind parents. As
>>> I look around this organization, all I seem to see are leaders who have been
>>> successful at being a college student. They are either succeeding in their
>>> classes, are successful college graduates, or have pursued the career of
>>> their choice. This makes me feel inadequate because there is the possibility
>>> none of these things will ever happened to me in my own life. And I guess
>>> learning to embrace this possibility in my life is rather difficult for me.
>>>
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Elizabeth
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis
>>> via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:13 AM
>>> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list; Beth Taurasi; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>>
>>> Good morning, Elizabeth,
>>>
>>> Personally, I was bienucleated (had both ocular organs surgically
>>> removed) after having retinal blastoma as an infant. And, I have come into a
>>> realization that,  without so much as a shaddow of a doubt, I want no part
>>> of synthetic means of artificially tweeking with nature, such that I, too,
>>> can proliferate this genetic cespool of mine, just so someone with genes ill
>>> fit for proliferation, can conceive of  and then carry to term their own
>>> kid! Personally, I think I have come to realize that, the universe doesn't
>>> mean for me to prolifferate my genetics and I accept this. For, the world
>>> seems to becoming strange, beyond my wildest dreams and seems not to be a
>>> welcoming place for any creature, let alone a fruit of my corrupt loins.
>>> Just some meditation on the question for people to take, or leave, as they
>>> see fit.
>>> for today, Car
>>>
>>>
>>> perportion and made the thread all about you, again. I don't think that was
>>> the point, just that the speeches and people doing so much makes people feel
>>> like they're not doing enough, or as much as they could. How much one can
>>> actually accomplish is up to someone, and only -you- know if you've not done
>>> enough.
>>>>> On 7/12/2014 8:25 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>> I feel the same way as you, Liz.  I have some other disabling factors
>>>>> due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse and I was devalued
>>>>> at home, at school, and in some work settings in Florida and Colorado.
>>>>> It's easy for the NFB people to feel like blindness is the only
>>>>> people's disabling factor they can serve, but they fail to recognize
>>>>> that mental illnesses, chronic health issues due to abuse, and so on
>>>>> also play a huge role in how the people act, interact, and so on.  I'm
>>>>> worried as heck about my own future because the NFB says a lot about
>>>>> blind parents, but whuat about multidisabled intelligent beings who
>>>>> want to bring children in to this world?  80% of psychiatrically ill
>>>>> mothers have their babies removed from her. s Anyone heard of Buck V.
>>>>> Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from her all because she was
>>>>> epileptic and even though she was not blind, a disability was present
>>>>> anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will not tolerate such actions
>>>>> to be taken against me or any person with or without multiple
>>>>> disabilities.
>>>>> I side with you on this,
>>>>> Beth
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a
>>>>> great time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention
>>>>> can be a rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind.
>>>>> However, as I was listening to the online stream of the national
>>>>> convention this year, I found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>>>>>
>>>>> Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself
>>>>> feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the
>>>>> speaches from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking
>>>>> how lucky they must be that the only disability they have to deal with
>>>>> in their lives was there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it
>>>>> must be fore someone who is only blind, and how more difficult it is
>>>>> for someone who has another disability in addition to being blind.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list,
>>>>> but I was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if
>>>>> so, what did you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would
>>>>> greatly appreciate hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind
>>> of issue before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nabs-l:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/bethslists%40
>>>>> gmail.com
>>>>>
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>>>>> com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Take care,
>>>> Ty
>>>> http://tds-solutions.net
>>>> He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he
>>>> that dares not reason is a slave.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
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>>>> net
>>>
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From alana.leonhardy at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 20:15:34 2014
From: alana.leonhardy at gmail.com (Alana Leonhardy)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:15:34 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
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From what you've said, I gather you're dealing with a neurological, intellectual, or psychological issue. The desire to give up can be a strong one. For a time, I didn't think I'd be able to live independently, let alone go to college. I should point out though, that college doesn't equal success. If you are unable, or just don't want to go to school, it doesn't mean that you are a failure. I hope you find a future that makes you happy. 
Best, Alana 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:31, Rebecca Leon via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey Elizabeth,
> I really appreciate your courage and openness in starting this thread.
> I am really new within this organization, but simply from attending
> convention I can understand how seeing leaders or members within the
> blind community with such incredible levels of talent or with a life
> which we deem highly successful can serve to raise personal feelings
> of frustration or inadequacy instead of inspiring us.
> I don't necessarily think I have exactly the same problems as you.
> However, I certainly have other issues then blindness including fairly
> major food intolerances and some difficult but more circumstantial
> issues. Obviously, this list isn't really the proper arena to discuss
> all our personal issues in detail, but my point is this:
> We all have stories, and, while blindness may not define us, it is
> part of a long list of traits and circumstances and thoughts which
> really do, although we certainly define them as well. It is easy for
> us to draw up lists of very real issues with which we are struggling
> and compare them with the shorter list which our friends or
> acquaintances seem to have. Believe me, I've done it a lot! However,
> this often isolates us and estranges us from the communities which
> could most empower us. It is very easy to set up the leaders in this
> organization as measuring sticks by which we belittle ourselves, and
> our accomplishments, and our future, when instead they could serve as
> wonderful resources as we chase our dreams! I hope all of this makes
> sense and doesn't sound obnoxiously like I have my life together… I
> definitely don't!
> As for living the life you want despite multiple disabilities or
> issues ontop of blindness, I have a close and trusted friend who I
> believe has experienced many of the same life issues and with whom I
> have had many similar conversations. I think she would make a great
> resource as well as sounding board. I would love to get her in contact
> with you if you are interested. I have already discussed this thread
> with her and asked if she would let me share her contact info with
> you, if you were interested. Shoot me an email if you have any
> questions for me or are interested in getting in touch with my friend.
> My email is:
> becsjoynfb at gmail.com
> Again, good job on speaking up :-)
> Rebecca –
> 
> 
> "The drop of rain maketh a hole in the stone, not by violence, but by
> oft falling."
> -Hugh Latimer
> 
>> On 13/07/2014, at 12:57, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning, Elizabeth,
>> 
>>       Like RJ, I am not a member of the Federation although I try to see it in terms of the context of the times in which it was conceived, to honor doctors TenBroeks and, later Dr. Maur's gifting blind cohesion and organization.Personally, I became brain damaged 10 years ago, so  I guess I am multipli handicapped, too.
>> for today, Car
>> 
>> 
>>> Dear
>>> Elizabeth, I myself am not a member of the NFB, and like you, I to have a secondary disability. I have CP. If you wish, you may email me off list at:
>>> joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
>>> Or you may add me to skype at:
>>> smallistbaby1979
>>> RJ
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "'Carly Mihalakis'" <carlymih at comcast.net>; "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hello Carly,
>>>> 
>>>> I am honestly not quite sure how my post about feeling defeated and
>>>> inadequate turned into a thread about not being able to become a blind
>>>> parent. My post had absolutely nothing to do with this. The last time I
>>>> checked, this was an email list for blind students and not blind parents. As
>>>> I look around this organization, all I seem to see are leaders who have been
>>>> successful at being a college student. They are either succeeding in their
>>>> classes, are successful college graduates, or have pursued the career of
>>>> their choice. This makes me feel inadequate because there is the possibility
>>>> none of these things will ever happened to me in my own life. And I guess
>>>> learning to embrace this possibility in my life is rather difficult for me.
>>>> 
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>> Elizabeth
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis
>>>> via nabs-l
>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:13 AM
>>>> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>>> list; Beth Taurasi; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning, Elizabeth,
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, I was bienucleated (had both ocular organs surgically
>>>> removed) after having retinal blastoma as an infant. And, I have come into a
>>>> realization that,  without so much as a shaddow of a doubt, I want no part
>>>> of synthetic means of artificially tweeking with nature, such that I, too,
>>>> can proliferate this genetic cespool of mine, just so someone with genes ill
>>>> fit for proliferation, can conceive of  and then carry to term their own
>>>> kid! Personally, I think I have come to realize that, the universe doesn't
>>>> mean for me to prolifferate my genetics and I accept this. For, the world
>>>> seems to becoming strange, beyond my wildest dreams and seems not to be a
>>>> welcoming place for any creature, let alone a fruit of my corrupt loins.
>>>> Just some meditation on the question for people to take, or leave, as they
>>>> see fit.
>>>> for today, Car
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> perportion and made the thread all about you, again. I don't think that was
>>>> the point, just that the speeches and people doing so much makes people feel
>>>> like they're not doing enough, or as much as they could. How much one can
>>>> actually accomplish is up to someone, and only -you- know if you've not done
>>>> enough.
>>>>>> On 7/12/2014 8:25 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l wrote:
>>>>>> I feel the same way as you, Liz.  I have some other disabling factors
>>>>>> due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse and I was devalued
>>>>>> at home, at school, and in some work settings in Florida and Colorado.
>>>>>> It's easy for the NFB people to feel like blindness is the only
>>>>>> people's disabling factor they can serve, but they fail to recognize
>>>>>> that mental illnesses, chronic health issues due to abuse, and so on
>>>>>> also play a huge role in how the people act, interact, and so on.  I'm
>>>>>> worried as heck about my own future because the NFB says a lot about
>>>>>> blind parents, but whuat about multidisabled intelligent beings who
>>>>>> want to bring children in to this world?  80% of psychiatrically ill
>>>>>> mothers have their babies removed from her. s Anyone heard of Buck V.
>>>>>> Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from her all because she was
>>>>>> epileptic and even though she was not blind, a disability was present
>>>>>> anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will not tolerate such actions
>>>>>> to be taken against me or any person with or without multiple
>>>>>> disabilities.
>>>>>> I side with you on this,
>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
>>>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a
>>>>>> great time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention
>>>>>> can be a rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind.
>>>>>> However, as I was listening to the online stream of the national
>>>>>> convention this year, I found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself
>>>>>> feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the
>>>>>> speaches from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking
>>>>>> how lucky they must be that the only disability they have to deal with
>>>>>> in their lives was there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it
>>>>>> must be fore someone who is only blind, and how more difficult it is
>>>>>> for someone who has another disability in addition to being blind.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list,
>>>>>> but I was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if
>>>>>> so, what did you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would
>>>>>> greatly appreciate hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind
>>>> of issue before.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Elizabeth
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Take care,
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>>>>> http://tds-solutions.net
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>>>>> that dares not reason is a slave.
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 20:23:01 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 16:23:01 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] =?iso-8859-1?q?Sorry_I_missed_=FFr_call?=
Message-ID: <53c2eaa6.650bec0a.7fe1.ffffc0da@mx.google.com>

Hi Rj sorry I missed your call earlier but I was doing some 
reading with my dad.  I'll be at home all day on Wednesday so you 
can skype me then.  I'll try to skype you tomorrow morning before 
I go to mobility session.


From jahmallovato at me.com  Sun Jul 13 20:32:23 2014
From: jahmallovato at me.com (Jahmal Lovato)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 14:32:23 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Interview on MSNBC about the Fair wages for workers with
 disabilities act
Message-ID: <310AC848-64A5-4A32-844B-A92C6ECF2D63@me.com>

Hello all,
This was just aired on MSNBC, and I thought the list might be interested.
NFB’s Anil Lewis was interviewed on the topic of the sub minimum wage for disabled workers, and the fair wages for workers with disabilities act.
Here’s the audio from that, attached to this message.
Jahmal
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 20:34:09 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 16:34:09 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Let's Pray For Cassie Stay
In-Reply-To: <7FF6AD20-1F51-4CC1-98CD-97E8982E019F@gmail.com>
References: <53c1d887.e733ec0a.5f1c.345b@mx.google.com>
	<BLU405-EAS2665BB7BCF0CB47BAC4540CCE0B0@phx.gbl>
	<CAKMC2e7ySyGFxtLGtjT=6XLhLJHn+rPrSk6Wig8B79JPksurFA@mail.gmail.com>
	<7FF6AD20-1F51-4CC1-98CD-97E8982E019F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2BD30454-9ABB-4FE2-B234-876E290D4ABE@gmail.com>

Hi Bill the girl is not blind. I posted this so that others could pray for her if they wanted to. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 13, 2014, at 12:34 PM, Bill Dengler via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> But how does this have to do with NABS? Is the girl blind?
> 
> Bill
>> On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:55 AM, James Hulme via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> To Joseph Hudson, Roanna, and Helga,
>> 
>> 
>> here are the articles regarding the situation that Roanna has mentioned. It
>> is all over the news and the press/media right now. July 10, 2014.
>> 
>> I do not watch much tv back here in NJ either but I did Google searches and
>> found these interesting articles. I will pray for the safety of this little
>> girl.  Please respond back to my e-mail.
>> 
>> I hate to read stories like this one, but did anyone teach this little girl
>> to never answer the door for strangers?
>> 
>> 
>> Six dead in Texas
>> <http://www.neontommy.com/news/2014/07/six-dead-texas-shooting>
>> 
>> Los Angeles Times' Story about the lone survivor in a suburban Texas town
>> <http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-heroine-houston-shooting-memorial-20140712-story.html>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please read these articles and please send comments to the authors of these
>> articles if you wish through various social media like FB or Twitter.
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> 
>> James Hulme
>> jim.hulme at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Joeph Hudson via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh I am very sorry that happened, I will definitely be thinking of the
>>> family.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:54 PM, "Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l" <
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Texas Members and all,
>>>> 
>>>> Let's all keep fifteen-year-old Cassie Stay in our thoughts and prayers
>>> this week.  She is the girl from Houston, Texas who lost her family in a
>>> horrible shooting.  She is such a brave young girl and she is very strong.
>>>> 
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From anjelinac at att.net  Sun Jul 13 20:58:55 2014
From: anjelinac at att.net (Anjelina)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 16:58:55 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Interview on MSNBC about the Fair wages for workers
	with disabilities act
In-Reply-To: <310AC848-64A5-4A32-844B-A92C6ECF2D63@me.com>
References: <310AC848-64A5-4A32-844B-A92C6ECF2D63@me.com>
Message-ID: <9AEB1E69-6D94-4655-A44D-E54958DAA83B@att.net>

Thank you for sharing this informative segment with the list.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Jahmal Lovato via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> This was just aired on MSNBC, and I thought the list might be interested.
> NFB’s Anil Lewis was interviewed on the topic of the sub minimum wage for disabled workers, and the fair wages for workers with disabilities act.
> Here’s the audio from that, attached to this message.
> Jahmal
> <MSNBC_Fair_Wage_interview.mp3>
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From bethslists at gmail.com  Sun Jul 13 21:10:10 2014
From: bethslists at gmail.com (Beth Taurasi)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 15:10:10 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
Message-ID: <53c2f5c7.5121320a.1781.1e6b@mx.google.com>

That's just it.  College doesn't equal success.  As a classic 
example, look at Bill Gates.  Although I must admit Microsoft has 
a lot of improving to do, Mr. Gates didn't go to college, and 
look where he's at.  Stevie Wonder, who's closer to the blind 
community, did not go to college.  The thing is that schools are 
not encouraging us to just do voc ed.  There's a good book with a 
good chapter on voc ed, which I don't think is a dirty word.  
Thank you for letting us all know about this one, Allana.
Beth

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Alana Leonhardy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: Rebecca Leon <becsjoynfb at gmail.com>,National Association of 
Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:15:34 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National 
Convention?

From what you've said, I gather you're dealing with a 
neurological, intellectual, or psychological issue. The desire to 
give up can be a strong one. For a time, I didn't think I'd be 
able to live independently, let alone go to college. I should 
point out though, that college doesn't equal success. If you are 
unable, or just don't want to go to school, it doesn't mean that 
you are a failure. I hope you find a future that makes you happy.
Best, Alana

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:31, Rebecca Leon via nabs-l 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 Hey Elizabeth,
 I really appreciate your courage and openness in starting this 
thread.
 I am really new within this organization, but simply from 
attending
 convention I can understand how seeing leaders or members within 
the
 blind community with such incredible levels of talent or with a 
life
 which we deem highly successful can serve to raise personal 
feelings
 of frustration or inadequacy instead of inspiring us.
 I don't necessarily think I have exactly the same problems as 
you.
 However, I certainly have other issues then blindness including 
fairly
 major food intolerances and some difficult but more 
circumstantial
 issues. Obviously, this list isn't really the proper arena to 
discuss
 all our personal issues in detail, but my point is this:
 We all have stories, and, while blindness may not define us, it 
is
 part of a long list of traits and circumstances and thoughts 
which
 really do, although we certainly define them as well. It is easy 
for
 us to draw up lists of very real issues with which we are 
struggling
 and compare them with the shorter list which our friends or
 acquaintances seem to have. Believe me, I've done it a lot! 
However,
 this often isolates us and estranges us from the communities 
which
 could most empower us. It is very easy to set up the leaders in 
this
 organization as measuring sticks by which we belittle ourselves, 
and
 our accomplishments, and our future, when instead they could 
serve as
 wonderful resources as we chase our dreams! I hope all of this 
makes
 sense and doesn't sound obnoxiously like I have my life 
together… I
 definitely don't!
 As for living the life you want despite multiple disabilities or
 issues ontop of blindness, I have a close and trusted friend who 
I
 believe has experienced many of the same life issues and with 
whom I
 have had many similar conversations. I think she would make a 
great
 resource as well as sounding board. I would love to get her in 
contact
 with you if you are interested. I have already discussed this 
thread
 with her and asked if she would let me share her contact info 
with
 you, if you were interested. Shoot me an email if you have any
 questions for me or are interested in getting in touch with my 
friend.
 My email is:
 becsjoynfb at gmail.com
 Again, good job on speaking up :-)
 Rebecca –


 "The drop of rain maketh a hole in the stone, not by violence, 
but by
 oft falling."
 -Hugh Latimer

 On 13/07/2014, at 12:57, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 Good morning, Elizabeth,

       Like RJ, I am not a member of the Federation although I 
try to see it in terms of the context of the times in which it 
was conceived, to honor doctors TenBroeks and, later Dr. Maur's 
gifting blind cohesion and organization.Personally, I became 
brain damaged 10 years ago, so  I guess I am multipli 
handicapped, too.
 for today, Car


 Dear
 Elizabeth, I myself am not a member of the NFB, and like you, I 
to have a secondary disability. I have CP. If you wish, you may 
email me off list at:
 joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
 Or you may add me to skype at:
 smallistbaby1979
 RJ
 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l" 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 To: "'Carly Mihalakis'" <carlymih at comcast.net>; "'National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National 
Convention?


 Hello Carly,

 I am honestly not quite sure how my post about feeling defeated 
and
 inadequate turned into a thread about not being able to become a 
blind
 parent. My post had absolutely nothing to do with this. The last 
time I
 checked, this was an email list for blind students and not blind 
parents. As
 I look around this organization, all I seem to see are leaders 
who have been
 successful at being a college student. They are either 
succeeding in their
 classes, are successful college graduates, or have pursued the 
career of
 their choice. This makes me feel inadequate because there is the 
possibility
 none of these things will ever happened to me in my own life. 
And I guess
 learning to embrace this possibility in my life is rather 
difficult for me.

 Warm regards,
 Elizabeth


 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Carly Mihalakis
 via nabs-l
 Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:13 AM
 To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students 
mailing
 list; Beth Taurasi; National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National 
Convention?

 Good morning, Elizabeth,

 Personally, I was bienucleated (had both ocular organs 
surgically
 removed) after having retinal blastoma as an infant. And, I have 
come into a
 realization that,  without so much as a shaddow of a doubt, I 
want no part
 of synthetic means of artificially tweeking with nature, such 
that I, too,
 can proliferate this genetic cespool of mine, just so someone 
with genes ill
 fit for proliferation, can conceive of  and then carry to term 
their own
 kid! Personally, I think I have come to realize that, the 
universe doesn't
 mean for me to prolifferate my genetics and I accept this. For, 
the world
 seems to becoming strange, beyond my wildest dreams and seems 
not to be a
 welcoming place for any creature, let alone a fruit of my 
corrupt loins.
 Just some meditation on the question for people to take, or 
leave, as they
 see fit.
 for today, Car


 perportion and made the thread all about you, again. I don't 
think that was
 the point, just that the speeches and people doing so much makes 
people feel
 like they're not doing enough, or as much as they could. How 
much one can
 actually accomplish is up to someone, and only -you- know if 
you've not done
 enough.
 On 7/12/2014 8:25 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l wrote:
 I feel the same way as you, Liz.  I have some other disabling 
factors
 due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse and I was 
devalued
 at home, at school, and in some work settings in Florida and 
Colorado.
 It's easy for the NFB people to feel like blindness is the only
 people's disabling factor they can serve, but they fail to 
recognize
 that mental illnesses, chronic health issues due to abuse, and 
so on
 also play a huge role in how the people act, interact, and so 
on.  I'm
 worried as heck about my own future because the NFB says a lot 
about
 blind parents, but whuat about multidisabled intelligent beings 
who
 want to bring children in to this world?  80% of psychiatrically 
ill
 mothers have their babies removed from her. s Anyone heard of 
Buck V.
 Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from her all because she 
was
 epileptic and even though she was not blind, a disability was 
present
 anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will not tolerate such 
actions
 to be taken against me or any person with or without multiple
 disabilities.
 I side with you on this,
 Beth

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
 <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
 Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?

 Hello All,

 I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year 
had a
 great time in Orlando. I understand attending a national 
convention
 can be a rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is 
blind.
 However, as I was listening to the online stream of the national
 convention this year, I found myself feeling the complete 
opposite.

 Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found 
myself
 feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to 
the
 speaches from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself 
thinking
 how lucky they must be that the only disability they have to 
deal with
 in their lives was there blindness. I was thinking about how 
easy it
 must be fore someone who is only blind, and how more difficult 
it is
 for someone who has another disability in addition to being 
blind.

 Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email 
list,
 but I was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, 
and if
 so, what did you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I 
would
 greatly appreciate hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with 
this kind
 of issue before.

 Thanks,
 Elizabeth

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From kcj21 at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 13 23:52:36 2014
From: kcj21 at bellsouth.net (kcj21)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 16:52:36 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] document readers for Ipad
Message-ID: <1405295556.42758.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
      I am looking for an app that will read word documents and PDFs on an Ipad. I usually use Zoomtext App Reader on my PC, but I don't think that feature is available on an Ipad. Someone recommended that I try Voicedream. Does that app work well? I would appreciate any advice or recommendations.

Thank you,
Kaley

From anjelinac at att.net  Sun Jul 13 23:58:36 2014
From: anjelinac at att.net (Anjelina)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 19:58:36 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with multiple
	disabilities
Message-ID: <C0698600-4464-492B-AF0B-DA7F70B7F607@att.net>

Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention. A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or group of students who are interested in advocating for people with multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or mental. Is there still interest? I'm still interested but was wondering if there are members who would like to have a conference call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any responses.

Sent from my iPhone

From cape.amanda at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 00:17:41 2014
From: cape.amanda at gmail.com (cape.amanda at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 20:17:41 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A problem with voice over and some questions about gps apps
Message-ID: <77342562-DC8B-4AE5-AB32-DEDE831A9ABC@gmail.com>



Hi everyone,
Has anyone encountered VoiceOver turning off in the middle of writing? If so, why does this happen and how can it be fixed? Also, what gps apps do you guys use? How does seeing eye compare to blind square?Amanda

From cape.amanda at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 00:31:46 2014
From: cape.amanda at gmail.com (cape.amanda at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 20:31:46 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Rising star abc app
Message-ID: <6EBB34C6-5D0A-4453-B3C9-F2AB04728BFD@gmail.com>



Hey,
Has anyone tried the rising star app with VoiceOver?Amanda


From jahmallovato at me.com  Mon Jul 14 00:32:14 2014
From: jahmallovato at me.com (Jahmal Lovato)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:32:14 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] A problem with voice over and some questions about gps
 apps
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Hello,
I have not experienced the problem with voice over you have mentioned.
As for Seeing eye and blind square, I generally prefer Seeing eye.
As I understand it, Blind square is designed more for checkin and find out what’s near by and get directions to that place sort of GPS activity.
I could be wrong though, but that’s just my understanding.
Seeing eye allows you to type in an address, or search for places and gives you turn by turn navigation to that place, such as the built-in apps on smartphones, but in a much better, and more accessible interface.
I won’t go into too much detail on list, but if you want demonstrations, or any more questions, you can always get a hold of me off list.
jahmallovato at me.com is my address.
Best,
Jahmal
On Jul 13, 2014, at 6:17 PM, Amanda via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Has anyone encountered VoiceOver turning off in the middle of writing? If so, why does this happen and how can it be fixed? Also, what gps apps do you guys use? How does seeing eye compare to blind square?Amanda
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From jahmallovato at me.com  Mon Jul 14 00:36:38 2014
From: jahmallovato at me.com (Jahmal Lovato)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:36:38 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with multiple
 disabilities
In-Reply-To: <C0698600-4464-492B-AF0B-DA7F70B7F607@att.net>
References: <C0698600-4464-492B-AF0B-DA7F70B7F607@att.net>
Message-ID: <F3AB1784-E19D-474B-B661-798490C964F9@me.com>

Hello,
I myself don’t have multiple disabilities, just blindness, but I’d be more than happy to help such a division out and advocate for those people.
Some of my close close friends are multiply disabled, and I have a heart for that kind of advocacy.
If anything happens, let me know.
Jahmal

On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention. A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or group of students who are interested in advocating for people with multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or mental. Is there still interest? I'm still interested but was wondering if there are members who would like to have a conference call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any responses.
> 
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From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 00:44:55 2014
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 17:44:55 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with multiple
	disabilities
In-Reply-To: <C0698600-4464-492B-AF0B-DA7F70B7F607@att.net>
References: <C0698600-4464-492B-AF0B-DA7F70B7F607@att.net>
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Hello Angelina and all,
While I may not be a person who would necessarily identify with this demographic, I am certainly interested in working with interested individuals in order to help organize such a presence in our movement.  
Because I don't want to take the lead in organizing (nor should I), I would encourage someone who is very interested in seeing a group/division organized, and is willing to take on the responsibility/work that goes into spearheading the effort to gather names of individuals who might be interested. 
I suspect that you might be the person who gets the ball rolling here, as you  seem to be really interested and would almost seem to be the person most likely to be the most invested.  I think that you might informally reach out to people that you are aware of who might have the same level of interest in organizing and fits into the same demographic. 
Then you will want to talk to our national president to see if this type of thing might have a place in our movement.  When you talk with President Riccobono, it is important to know that he will want to know if there are a number of people who are like-minded in the organization of such a group or division.  Such numbers are helpful in helping him to gain an understanding of whether or not this might serve to benefit the Federation.  Another thing to think about is just why you want to have such a division/group. Making this known is also helpful.  
Going about the process of organizing a group/division is certainly not the most complicated thing in the world, but there are steps that need to be taken to ensure that such an effort is organized for the right reasons, with the right amount of care and consideration, and not gone into lightly. 
 Please feel free to contact me directly should you have any questions. My email address is:dsmithnfb at gmail.com 
Best of luck, and I hope that such an effort does in fact make it off of the drawing board.
  Darian 

> On Jul 13, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention. A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or group of students who are interested in advocating for people with multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or mental. Is there still interest? I'm still interested but was wondering if there are members who would like to have a conference call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any responses.
> 
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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 00:45:11 2014
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 20:45:11 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with multiple
	disabilities
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References: <C0698600-4464-492B-AF0B-DA7F70B7F607@att.net>
	<F3AB1784-E19D-474B-B661-798490C964F9@me.com>
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I wouldhelp as well even though I don't have a second disabiliby.

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Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 8:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with multiple
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Importance: High

Hello,
I myself don't have multiple disabilities, just blindness, but I'd be more
than happy to help such a division out and advocate for those people.
Some of my close close friends are multiply disabled, and I have a heart for
that kind of advocacy.
If anything happens, let me know.
Jahmal

On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention. A few
months ago there was a thread about starting a division or group of students
who are interested in advocating for people with multiple disabilities,
whether they be intellectual, physical, or mental. Is there still interest?
I'm still interested but was wondering if there are members who would like
to have a conference call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any
responses.
> 
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From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 01:04:17 2014
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 18:04:17 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with multiple
	disabilities
In-Reply-To: <F3AB1784-E19D-474B-B661-798490C964F9@me.com>
References: <C0698600-4464-492B-AF0B-DA7F70B7F607@att.net>
	<F3AB1784-E19D-474B-B661-798490C964F9@me.com>
Message-ID: <1FEFD3B6-F267-45BB-A5C5-7A62692E76D1@gmail.com>

Hello again,
Upon further consideration I am wondering if such a division/group would be as effective if limited to a student population? Would it have a greater voice if such a group was composed of many others with multiple disabilities from other walks of life? 
If the focus is meant to be solely for multiply disabled students then maybe the organizing needs to be within the structure of the national Association of blind students. Maybe a committee as a part of nabs would be a good start. If it  were me, I would contact the president of our National Student Division and/or a member of our Student Division board of directors to gauge interest/prospects/possibilities. 
We have a very good mix of returning veteran leadership, and infusion of incoming energetic, enthusiastic and talented individuals that round out the 2014-2015 board.  I encourage you or anyone with any ideas that might even possibly serve to benefit students around the country to get to know these folks.  As well, I know that each and every member of the board wants to and will make good on their word to work with and get to know you.  So, sounds like a great opportunity to work together and see what comes of it.   Darian  


> On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Jahmal Lovato via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I myself don’t have multiple disabilities, just blindness, but I’d be more than happy to help such a division out and advocate for those people.
> Some of my close close friends are multiply disabled, and I have a heart for that kind of advocacy.
> If anything happens, let me know.
> Jahmal
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention. A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or group of students who are interested in advocating for people with multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or mental. Is there still interest? I'm still interested but was wondering if there are members who would like to have a conference call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any responses.
>> 
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From alyssahenson95 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 03:02:05 2014
From: alyssahenson95 at gmail.com (Alyssa)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 22:02:05 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] document readers for Ipad
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Voice dream is a good one. Also, pages is good. The price is exactly the same.
Alyssa 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2014, at 6:52 PM, kcj21 via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
>       I am looking for an app that will read word documents and PDFs on an Ipad. I usually use Zoomtext App Reader on my PC, but I don't think that feature is available on an Ipad. Someone recommended that I try Voicedream. Does that app work well? I would appreciate any advice or recommendations.
> 
> Thank you,
> Kaley
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From alyssahenson95 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 03:05:00 2014
From: alyssahenson95 at gmail.com (Alyssa)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 22:05:00 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] A problem with voice over and some questions about gps
	apps
In-Reply-To: <77342562-DC8B-4AE5-AB32-DEDE831A9ABC@gmail.com>
References: <77342562-DC8B-4AE5-AB32-DEDE831A9ABC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5C1264A8-C4CF-46C3-9BEE-F133E57F99A0@gmail.com>

Hi Amanda,
Do you have the triple click home shortcut on? If you do, this problem can be quite easily fixed. Let me know if you have any questions.
Alyssa

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2014, at 7:17 PM, Amanda via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Has anyone encountered VoiceOver turning off in the middle of writing? If so, why does this happen and how can it be fixed? Also, what gps apps do you guys use? How does seeing eye compare to blind square?Amanda
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From bethslists at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 03:19:49 2014
From: bethslists at gmail.com (Beth Taurasi)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 21:19:49 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with
	multipledisabilities
Message-ID: <53c34c69.0137320a.1ddc.29ca@mx.google.com>

I wouldd do it, except I've got stuff going on.  I'd be happy to 
give a list of names privately to someone higher up.
Beth

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Darian via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: Anjelina <anjelinac at att.net>,National Association of Blind 
Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 17:44:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students 
with multipledisabilities

Hello Angelina and all,
While I may not be a person who would necessarily identify with 
this demographic, I am certainly interested in working with 
interested individuals in order to help organize such a presence 
in our movement.
Because I don't want to take the lead in organizing (nor should 
I), I would encourage someone who is very interested in seeing a 
group/division organized, and is willing to take on the 
responsibility/work that goes into spearheading the effort to 
gather names of individuals who might be interested.
I suspect that you might be the person who gets the ball rolling 
here, as you  seem to be really interested and would almost seem 
to be the person most likely to be the most invested.  I think 
that you might informally reach out to people that you are aware 
of who might have the same level of interest in organizing and 
fits into the same demographic.
Then you will want to talk to our national president to see if 
this type of thing might have a place in our movement.  When you 
talk with President Riccobono, it is important to know that he 
will want to know if there are a number of people who are 
like-minded in the organization of such a group or division.  
Such numbers are helpful in helping him to gain an understanding 
of whether or not this might serve to benefit the Federation.  
Another thing to think about is just why you want to have such a 
division/group. Making this known is also helpful.
Going about the process of organizing a group/division is 
certainly not the most complicated thing in the world, but there 
are steps that need to be taken to ensure that such an effort is 
organized for the right reasons, with the right amount of care 
and consideration, and not gone into lightly.
 Please feel free to contact me directly should you have any 
questions. My email address is:dsmithnfb at gmail.com
Best of luck, and I hope that such an effort does in fact make it 
off of the drawing board.
  Darian

 On Jul 13, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after 
convention. A few months ago there was a thread about starting a 
division or group of students who are interested in advocating 
for people with multiple disabilities, whether they be 
intellectual, physical, or mental. Is there still interest? I'm 
still interested but was wondering if there are members who would 
like to have a conference call to further discuss ideas. Thank 
you for any responses.

 Sent from my iPhone
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From bethslists at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 03:19:47 2014
From: bethslists at gmail.com (Beth Taurasi)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 21:19:47 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with
	multipledisabilities
Message-ID: <53c34c67.0137320a.1ddc.29c9@mx.google.com>

I've got a room for that purpose.  Let's have a conference call 
when it is convenient, and it can't just be students.  It should 
be anyone, of any occupation, of all age groups viable.
Beth

 ----- Original Message -----
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To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 19:58:36 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with 
multipledisabilities

Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention. 
A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or 
group of students who are interested in advocating for people 
with multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, 
physical, or mental. Is there still interest? I'm still 
interested but was wondering if there are members who would like 
to have a conference call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for 
any responses.

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From bethslists at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 03:19:55 2014
From: bethslists at gmail.com (Beth Taurasi)
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 21:19:55 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with
	multipledisabilities
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The=20organization=20should=20be=20all=20walks=20of=20life,=20not=20just=20=
students.=20=20
Thanks.
Beth

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Darian=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20Jahmal=20Lovato=20<jahmallovato at me.com>,National=20Association=20of=20=

Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Sun,=2013=20Jul=202014=2018:04:17=20-0700
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20Revisiting=20idea=20of=20division=20for=20stude=
nts=20
with=20multipledisabilities

Hello=20again,
Upon=20further=20consideration=20I=20am=20wondering=20if=20such=20a=20
division/group=20would=20be=20as=20effective=20if=20limited=20to=20a=20stud=
ent=20
population?=20Would=20it=20have=20a=20greater=20voice=20if=20such=20a=20gro=
up=20was=20
composed=20of=20many=20others=20with=20multiple=20disabilities=20from=20oth=
er=20
walks=20of=20life?
If=20the=20focus=20is=20meant=20to=20be=20solely=20for=20multiply=20disable=
d=20students=20
then=20maybe=20the=20organizing=20needs=20to=20be=20within=20the=20structur=
e=20of=20the=20
national=20Association=20of=20blind=20students.=20Maybe=20a=20committee=20a=
s=20a=20
part=20of=20nabs=20would=20be=20a=20good=20start.=20If=20it=20=20were=20me,=
=20I=20would=20
contact=20the=20president=20of=20our=20National=20Student=20Division=20and/=
or=20a=20
member=20of=20our=20Student=20Division=20board=20of=20directors=20to=20gaug=
e=20
interest/prospects/possibilities.
We=20have=20a=20very=20good=20mix=20of=20returning=20veteran=20leadership,=
=20and=20
infusion=20of=20incoming=20energetic,=20enthusiastic=20and=20talented=20
individuals=20that=20round=20out=20the=202014-2015=20board.=20=20I=20encour=
age=20you=20
or=20anyone=20with=20any=20ideas=20that=20might=20even=20possibly=20serve=20=
to=20
benefit=20students=20around=20the=20country=20to=20get=20to=20know=20these=
=20folks.=20=20
As=20well,=20I=20know=20that=20each=20and=20every=20member=20of=20the=20boa=
rd=20wants=20to=20
and=20will=20make=20good=20on=20their=20word=20to=20work=20with=20and=20get=
=20to=20know=20
you.=20=20So,=20sounds=20like=20a=20great=20opportunity=20to=20work=20toget=
her=20and=20
see=20what=20comes=20of=20it.=20=20=20Darian


=20On=20Jul=2013,=202014,=20at=205:36=20PM,=20Jahmal=20Lovato=20via=20nabs-=
l=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>=20wrote:

=20Hello,
=20I=20myself=20don=E2=80=99t=20have=20multiple=20disabilities,=20just=20bl=
indness,=20but=20
I=E2=80=99d=20be=20more=20than=20happy=20to=20help=20such=20a=20division=20=
out=20and=20advocate=20
for=20those=20people.
=20Some=20of=20my=20close=20close=20friends=20are=20multiply=20disabled,=20=
and=20I=20have=20
a=20heart=20for=20that=20kind=20of=20advocacy.
=20If=20anything=20happens,=20let=20me=20know.
=20Jahmal

=20On=20Jul=2013,=202014,=20at=205:58=20PM,=20Anjelina=20via=20nabs-l=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>=20wrote:

=20Good=20evening=20all,=20I=20hope=20everyone=20is=20doing=20well=20after=
=20
convention.=20A=20few=20months=20ago=20there=20was=20a=20thread=20about=20s=
tarting=20a=20
division=20or=20group=20of=20students=20who=20are=20interested=20in=20advoc=
ating=20
for=20people=20with=20multiple=20disabilities,=20whether=20they=20be=20
intellectual,=20physical,=20or=20mental.=20Is=20there=20still=20interest?=20=
I'm=20
still=20interested=20but=20was=20wondering=20if=20there=20are=20members=20w=
ho=20would=20
like=20to=20have=20a=20conference=20call=20to=20further=20discuss=20ideas.=
=20Thank=20
you=20for=20any=20responses.

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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 05:46:53 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 01:46:53 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with
	multipledisabilities
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Hi Angelina! And all! How are you all? I'm interesting in this division! since I'm studying in order to advocate for visually impaired individuals and individuals who have multiple dissabilities! as well since I believe that all of us were creating with a purpose. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!! :) 

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
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"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I wouldd do it, except I've got stuff going on.  I'd be happy to give a list of names privately to someone higher up.
> Beth
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Darian via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: Anjelina <anjelinac at att.net>,National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 17:44:55 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with multipledisabilities
> 
> Hello Angelina and all,
> While I may not be a person who would necessarily identify with this demographic, I am certainly interested in working with interested individuals in order to help organize such a presence in our movement.
> Because I don't want to take the lead in organizing (nor should I), I would encourage someone who is very interested in seeing a group/division organized, and is willing to take on the responsibility/work that goes into spearheading the effort to gather names of individuals who might be interested.
> I suspect that you might be the person who gets the ball rolling here, as you  seem to be really interested and would almost seem to be the person most likely to be the most invested.  I think that you might informally reach out to people that you are aware of who might have the same level of interest in organizing and fits into the same demographic.
> Then you will want to talk to our national president to see if this type of thing might have a place in our movement.  When you talk with President Riccobono, it is important to know that he will want to know if there are a number of people who are like-minded in the organization of such a group or division.  Such numbers are helpful in helping him to gain an understanding of whether or not this might serve to benefit the Federation.  Another thing to think about is just why you want to have such a division/group. Making this known is also helpful.
> Going about the process of organizing a group/division is certainly not the most complicated thing in the world, but there are steps that need to be taken to ensure that such an effort is organized for the right reasons, with the right amount of care and consideration, and not gone into lightly.
> Please feel free to contact me directly should you have any questions. My email address is:dsmithnfb at gmail.com
> Best of luck, and I hope that such an effort does in fact make it off of the drawing board.
> Darian
> 
> On Jul 13, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention. A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or group of students who are interested in advocating for people with multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or mental. Is there still interest? I'm still interested but was wondering if there are members who would like to have a conference call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any responses.
> 
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 06:04:51 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 02:04:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with
	multipledisabilities
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I meant I'm studying in  ordr to become a Lawyer! :-)

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
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INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jul 14, 2014, at 1:46 AM, Helga Schreiber <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Angelina! And all! How are you all? I'm interesting in this division! since I'm studying in order to advocate for visually impaired individuals and individuals who have multiple dissabilities! as well since I believe that all of us were creating with a purpose. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!! :) 
> 
> Helga Schreiber
> 
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
>> On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:19 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I wouldd do it, except I've got stuff going on.  I'd be happy to give a list of names privately to someone higher up.
>> Beth
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Darian via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> To: Anjelina <anjelinac at att.net>,National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 17:44:55 -0700
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with multipledisabilities
>> 
>> Hello Angelina and all,
>> While I may not be a person who would necessarily identify with this demographic, I am certainly interested in working with interested individuals in order to help organize such a presence in our movement.
>> Because I don't want to take the lead in organizing (nor should I), I would encourage someone who is very interested in seeing a group/division organized, and is willing to take on the responsibility/work that goes into spearheading the effort to gather names of individuals who might be interested.
>> I suspect that you might be the person who gets the ball rolling here, as you  seem to be really interested and would almost seem to be the person most likely to be the most invested.  I think that you might informally reach out to people that you are aware of who might have the same level of interest in organizing and fits into the same demographic.
>> Then you will want to talk to our national president to see if this type of thing might have a place in our movement.  When you talk with President Riccobono, it is important to know that he will want to know if there are a number of people who are like-minded in the organization of such a group or division.  Such numbers are helpful in helping him to gain an understanding of whether or not this might serve to benefit the Federation.  Another thing to think about is just why you want to have such a division/group. Making this known is also helpful.
>> Going about the process of organizing a group/division is certainly not the most complicated thing in the world, but there are steps that need to be taken to ensure that such an effort is organized for the right reasons, with the right amount of care and consideration, and not gone into lightly.
>> Please feel free to contact me directly should you have any questions. My email address is:dsmithnfb at gmail.com
>> Best of luck, and I hope that such an effort does in fact make it off of the drawing board.
>> Darian
>> 
>> On Jul 13, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention. A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or group of students who are interested in advocating for people with multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or mental. Is there still interest? I'm still interested but was wondering if there are members who would like to have a conference call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any responses.
>> 
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From loneblindjedi at samobile.net  Mon Jul 14 11:11:40 2014
From: loneblindjedi at samobile.net (Jedi Moerke)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 06:11:40 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
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Beth,

I would strongly advise against taking one persons view of guardianship issues to be the view representing the entire organization. I for one  have strong feelings against guardianship in many cases. It is true that guardianship can be helpful for some people, but I have long since felt that the system has been abused in such a way as to prevent the progress of people with disabilities while advantageing  those who are supposed to care for them.

Respect fully,
Jedi

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> On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I would agree, Arielle.  It just bothers me that while the NFB is fighting for the "vanilla blind" people, they seem to think guardianship is ok for a mentally ill and blind person because, while at the CCB, the director said she wasn't comfortable changing the state of the guardianship because of the "mental health disability" or undiagnosed disabling factors.  Whuat's the point, then, of fighting for, in one case, the total illegality of guardianship?  It should be illegal just as Henry's turkey Service was found to be in violation of so many existing laws nd exploited low IQ boys.  The "guardians of the boys stole their money.  I am lucky in that I'm even living alone, but the "guardians" don't even see me in CO.  So whuat to do next!
> Beth
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: Elizabeth Mohnke <lizmohnke at hotmail.com>, National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 15:03:19 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
> 
> Hi Elizabeth and all,
> 
> I  think your reaction is perfectly natural and it is definitely one
> that others have expressed inside and outside the NFB. However, I
> would point out that  our leaders could also experience struggles in
> ways that we are not aware of. For example, I know that several of our
> national leaders learned Braille later in life, either because of
> anti-Braille attitudes in their education or because they became blind
> as adults. In a way, learning Braille later could be considered a kind
> of disability because it is harder to become fluent in Braille when
> one starts learning later in life. These leaders may come across as
> impeccable in their speeches, but what we don't know is how much they
> might have practiced beforehand or what tricks they use to compensate
> for a slower reading speed. There are also many among us, probably
> some in leadership, who have hidden disabilities--learning, mental
> health or otherwise--they have not disclosed with us. In fact, I have
> several lifelong balance and coordination problems, and suspect I
> could have a  mild form of a  second disability myself. Given the
> prevalence of mental health conditions (many hidden) in the
> population, and the kinds of additional disabilities that often come
> with blindness, I would probably guess that a majority of our members
> have additional disabilities even if we cannot see them, and everyone
> has their own real and perceived struggles even if we cannot see them.
> My point is that while comparisons are natural, I would encourage all
> of us to try to be the best we can be rather than comparing ourselves
> to the front that somebody else puts forward.
> 
> Best,
> Arielle
> 
> On 7/12/14, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a great
> time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention can be a
> rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. However, as I
> was listening to the online stream of the national convention this year, I
> found myself feeling the complete opposite.
> 
> Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself
> feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the speaches
> from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking how lucky they
> must be that the only disability they have to deal with in their lives was
> there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it must be fore someone who
> is only blind, and how more difficult it is for someone who has another
> disability in addition to being blind.
> 
> Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list, but I
> was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if so, what did
> you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would greatly appreciate
> hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind of issue before.
> 
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
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From carlymih at comcast.net  Mon Jul 14 11:34:52 2014
From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:34:52 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with multiple
 disabilities
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Good morning, Jahmal and List,

         Personally, as someone with blindness and brain damage, I 
don't think further isolating us multiply handicapped  people is a 
sensible way. I mean, isn't a teaching of the Federation's, to be 
counted amongst the masses, with the Federation's insisting that, 
blindness is "just a characteristic?" To totally downplay it? We 
appreciate the same thing as "regular" blind people. We would 
appreciate our multiple handicapped-ness downplayed, in much a same 
way. Definitely not a special division to glorified our double handicappedness.
for today, Car

!
>Hello,
>I myself don't have multiple disabilities, just blindness, but I'd 
>be more than happy to help such a division out and advocate for those people.
>Some of my close close friends are multiply disabled, and I have a 
>heart for that kind of advocacy.
>If anything happens, let me know.
>Jahmal
>
>On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention. 
> A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or 
> group of students who are interested in advocating for people with 
> multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or 
> mental. Is there still interest? I'm still interested but was 
> wondering if there are members who would like to have a conference 
> call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any responses.
> >
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From loneblindjedi at samobile.net  Mon Jul 14 11:52:00 2014
From: loneblindjedi at samobile.net (Jedi Moerke)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 06:52:00 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
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Elizabeth,

I hear what you're saying aboutNFB leaders and their propensity to have used college as a jumping point for success. I think it's important to consider the experience of blind people in general society. For generations, the only way for a blind person to be successful at all was  to obtain a degree that gets us  into jobs that society feels we can do. Besides that, the possibilities were pretty grim. I believe we still have this issue today. I believe that people with other types of disabilities face a similar issue. Either go to college or work in sub minimal wage sheltered workshops. It may not really be that severe, but it feels as though it is. I think the better approach is to start working on Ways to open up possibilities for blind people and blind people with other disabilities rather than letting someone else's success make us  feel inadequate.

I want to talk about our new tagline for moment. Live the life you want. This message is a bite sized version of the entire thought. I have not yet memorized it and cannot  word it exactly, but the bottom line is that blindness does not have to be the characteristic that defines you or your future.  I believe that this thought process can be applied to other types of disabilities. I think many members would agree.

So Elizabeth, let me ask you a question. What do you want? Keep in mind that what you say you want may  not actually be what you want. Generally speaking, people have a habit of not getting to the heart of what they want. Instead, we tend to focus more on the way in which we think we will obtain what we want. So really stop and think about it for a moment. And, at the end of your reflection, you still aren't  sure what it is that you want, join the rest of us. We are right there with you. I highly doubt our leadership meant to do this, but they are really asking us to consider a question that experts in  metaphysics have been asking the entire population for a long time. The challenge is that most people think more about what stops them from moving forward as opposed to figuring out what course they want to set in the first place. Those who are successful and feel they have what they want are those who have spent some time plotting the course and coming up with innovative ways to get from the starting point to the finishing point. Keep in mind that these individuals have found  detours along their path that sometimes cause with temporary setbacks. I believe  that what marks us ass as successful is our ability to think  creatively for solutions that get us back on course and passed the setbacks.

When I was younger, I wanted to be either a law enforcement officer or a doctor. I even thought about becoming an Olympic gymnast. Everyone kept telling me that I could not do these things because I am blind. I figured out there must be something wrong with society to have so many possibilities discouraged for me based on blindness. So, I thought that the best way to change perceptions of what blind people can do is to start with blind people ourselves. So, I thought to be a mobility instructor. Naturally, I was told I could not do this either. Then, I read an article written by Fred Schroeder. I read about the Louisiana Tech program and decided to go there. I am now a mobility instructor who changes perceptions of blind people about what we can accomplish as a group and as individuals. Now that I spend some time thinking about it, I realize that that is actually what I have always wanted. Whether it's being a gymnast, a doctor, or a police officer, Michael has always been to do something innovative and interesting that changes the perceptions of blind people and society about what we can do. I guess that being a mobility instructor was an interesting detour that had the bonus effect of empowering other people besides myself at the most basic level. I'm not finished yet. While teaching travel is interesting and empowering for me and the people I teach, I recognize that I have the potential to try some other avenues for empowerment as well. I have plans to get a doctorate degree so that I can teach incoming instructors, run an agency, do some research on blindness, or anyone of those things and things I have not even dreamed of yet. I have challenges like everybody else. They may not be represented by some form of disability, but they definitely create frustrating setbacks. The speeches I heard at convention have not left me feeling inadequate. Quite the opposite. If anything, I feel like I'm being encouraged to strive and to push a little harder to get serious about deciding what I want and plotting a course to get there.

Respectfully,
Jedi

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:28 AM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello Carly,
> 
> I am honestly not quite sure how my post about feeling defeated and
> inadequate turned into a thread about not being able to become a blind
> parent. My post had absolutely nothing to do with this. The last time I
> checked, this was an email list for blind students and not blind parents. As
> I look around this organization, all I seem to see are leaders who have been
> successful at being a college student. They are either succeeding in their
> classes, are successful college graduates, or have pursued the career of
> their choice. This makes me feel inadequate because there is the possibility
> none of these things will ever happened to me in my own life. And I guess
> learning to embrace this possibility in my life is rather difficult for me.
> 
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Carly Mihalakis
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:13 AM
> To: tyler at tysdomain.com; National Association of Blind Students mailing
> list; Beth Taurasi; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
> 
> Good morning, Elizabeth,
> 
> Personally, I was bienucleated (had both ocular organs surgically
> removed) after having retinal blastoma as an infant. And, I have come into a
> realization that,  without so much as a shaddow of a doubt, I want no part
> of synthetic means of artificially tweeking with nature, such that I, too,
> can proliferate this genetic cespool of mine, just so someone with genes ill
> fit for proliferation, can conceive of  and then carry to term their own
> kid! Personally, I think I have come to realize that, the universe doesn't
> mean for me to prolifferate my genetics and I accept this. For, the world
> seems to becoming strange, beyond my wildest dreams and seems not to be a
> welcoming place for any creature, let alone a fruit of my corrupt loins.
> Just some meditation on the question for people to take, or leave, as they
> see fit.
> for today, Car
> 
> 
> perportion and made the thread all about you, again. I don't think that was
> the point, just that the speeches and people doing so much makes people feel
> like they're not doing enough, or as much as they could. How much one can
> actually accomplish is up to someone, and only -you- know if you've not done
> enough.
>>> On 7/12/2014 8:25 PM, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l wrote:
>>> I feel the same way as you, Liz.  I have some other disabling factors 
>>> due to parental misconnduct or psychological abuse and I was devalued 
>>> at home, at school, and in some work settings in Florida and Colorado.  
>>> It's easy for the NFB people to feel like blindness is the only 
>>> people's disabling factor they can serve, but they fail to recognize 
>>> that mental illnesses, chronic health issues due to abuse, and so on 
>>> also play a huge role in how the people act, interact, and so on.  I'm 
>>> worried as heck about my own future because the NFB says a lot about 
>>> blind parents, but whuat about multidisabled intelligent beings who 
>>> want to bring children in to this world?  80% of psychiatrically ill 
>>> mothers have their babies removed from her. s Anyone heard of Buck V. 
>>> Bell?  Carrie Buck had her kid removed from her all because she was 
>>> epileptic and even though she was not blind, a disability was present 
>>> anyway.  Then, she was sterilized.  I will not tolerate such actions 
>>> to be taken against me or any person with or without multiple 
>>> disabilities.
>>> I side with you on this,
>>> Beth
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'" 
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:29:51 -0400
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling Inadequate After National Convention?
>>> 
>>> Hello All,
>>> 
>>> I hope everyone who attended the national convention this year had a 
>>> great time in Orlando. I understand attending a national convention 
>>> can be a rather inspiring event in the life of someone who is blind. 
>>> However, as I was listening to the online stream of the national 
>>> convention this year, I found myself feeling the complete opposite.
>>> 
>>> Instead of feeling inspired and hopeful for the future, I found myself 
>>> feeling rather defeated and inadequate. As I was listening to the 
>>> speaches from various leaders within the NFB, I found myself thinking 
>>> how lucky they must be that the only disability they have to deal with 
>>> in their lives was there blindness. I was thinking about how easy it 
>>> must be fore someone who is only blind, and how more difficult it is 
>>> for someone who has another disability in addition to being blind.
>>> 
>>> Now perhaps this may be a bit too personal to post to the email list, 
>>> but I was just curious if anyone else has ever felt this way, and if 
>>> so, what did you do to deal with these kinds of feelings? I would 
>>> greatly appreciate hearing from anyone who has ever dealt with this kind
> of issue before.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elizabeth
>>> 
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From kmaent1 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 13:49:14 2014
From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:49:14 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with
	multipledisabilities
Message-ID: <53c3e010.4914320a.19c0.6dd6@mx.google.com>

Hi Carly,

I don't think I agree that the NFB believes in downplaying 
blindness or in blending into the masses.  If we believed that, 
there wouldn't be such a thing as "the organized blind."  No one 
is suggesting segregating people with multiple disabilities into 
a special division; the idea is to create a space where people 
with multiple disabilities can address the issues that matter to 
them while still participating in the Federation and in general 
society.  All the reasons you give for not creating a new 
division if you follow them through should lead to there being no 
federation either.

Best,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: Jahmal Lovato <jahmallovato at me.com>,National Association of 
Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,Anjelina 
<anjelinac at att.net>,National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:34:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students 
with multipledisabilities

Good morning, Jahmal and List,

         Personally, as someone with blindness and brain damage, 
I
don't think further isolating us multiply handicapped  people is 
a
sensible way. I mean, isn't a teaching of the Federation's, to be
counted amongst the masses, with the Federation's insisting that,
blindness is "just a characteristic?" To totally downplay it? We
appreciate the same thing as "regular" blind people. We would
appreciate our multiple handicapped-ness downplayed, in much a 
same
way. Definitely not a special division to glorified our double 
handicappedness.
for today, Car

!
Hello,
I myself don't have multiple disabilities, just blindness, but 
I'd
be more than happy to help such a division out and advocate for 
those people.
Some of my close close friends are multiply disabled, and I have 
a
heart for that kind of advocacy.
If anything happens, let me know.
Jahmal

On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after 
convention.
 A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or
 group of students who are interested in advocating for people 
with
 multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, 
or
 mental. Is there still interest? I'm still interested but was
 wondering if there are members who would like to have a 
conference
 call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any responses.

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From anjelinac at att.net  Mon Jul 14 14:19:15 2014
From: anjelinac at att.net (Anjelina)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:19:15 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with
	multipledisabilities
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Good day all,
Karl, you have accurately addressed my ideas for such an interest group. My goal would never be to further isolate anyone. My interst in such a group stems from knowing friends who have struggled with feeling isolated because of their additional disability. It's always sad to see a person leave the Federation because  they didn't feel as if they "fit" in because they are not just blind.
Thank you all for your ideas and suggestions. If anyone is intersted in such a group, feel free to contact me off list so we don't clutter the listserv.
anjelinac at att.net



-Anjelina
Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Carly,
> 
> I don't think I agree that the NFB believes in downplaying blindness or in blending into the masses.  If we believed that, there wouldn't be such a thing as "the organized blind."  No one is suggesting segregating people with multiple disabilities into a special division; the idea is to create a space where people with multiple disabilities can address the issues that matter to them while still participating in the Federation and in general society.  All the reasons you give for not creating a new division if you follow them through should lead to there being no federation either.
> 
> Best,
> Karl
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: Jahmal Lovato <jahmallovato at me.com>,National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,Anjelina <anjelinac at att.net>,National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:34:52 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with multipledisabilities
> 
> Good morning, Jahmal and List,
> 
>        Personally, as someone with blindness and brain damage, I
> don't think further isolating us multiply handicapped  people is a
> sensible way. I mean, isn't a teaching of the Federation's, to be
> counted amongst the masses, with the Federation's insisting that,
> blindness is "just a characteristic?" To totally downplay it? We
> appreciate the same thing as "regular" blind people. We would
> appreciate our multiple handicapped-ness downplayed, in much a same
> way. Definitely not a special division to glorified our double handicappedness.
> for today, Car
> 
> !
> Hello,
> I myself don't have multiple disabilities, just blindness, but I'd
> be more than happy to help such a division out and advocate for those people.
> Some of my close close friends are multiply disabled, and I have a
> heart for that kind of advocacy.
> If anything happens, let me know.
> Jahmal
> 
> On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention.
> A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or
> group of students who are interested in advocating for people with
> multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or
> mental. Is there still interest? I'm still interested but was
> wondering if there are members who would like to have a conference
> call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any responses.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 14:54:38 2014
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:54:38 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with
	multipledisabilities
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Dear Karl,
On this I would beg to differ.  We as members of the Federation believe, and the movement of the organized blind in the federation has always maintained that blindness can be considered  little more than a characteristic with the proper training and opportunity 
We believe that the blind should participate in all aspects of society
Everything we do/have done involving our advocacy, training and education work/activities is deeply rooted in expectation the expectation that the blind take their rightful place in society as citizens who take the same classes, participate in the same extracurricular activities work in the same fields and Arenas, get paid the same wages pay taxes, own homes, raise and maintain/keep their families and so on is an expectation. We organized to ensure these rights
 Whether or not this type of effort is ultimately healthy for our movement is something that I can't/wish not to speak to, because that's part of the conversation that those interested in its formation should start to have.  
If this is something that can be done and should be done, I am willing to assist with whatever experience I might have gathered.
  

> On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:49 AM, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Carly,
> 
> I don't think I agree that the NFB believes in downplaying blindness or in blending into the masses.  If we believed that, there wouldn't be such a thing as "the organized blind."  No one is suggesting segregating people with multiple disabilities into a special division; the idea is to create a space where people with multiple disabilities can address the issues that matter to them while still participating in the Federation and in general society.  All the reasons you give for not creating a new division if you follow them through should lead to there being no federation either.
> 
> Best,
> Karl
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: Jahmal Lovato <jahmallovato at me.com>,National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,Anjelina <anjelinac at att.net>,National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:34:52 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with multipledisabilities
> 
> Good morning, Jahmal and List,
> 
>        Personally, as someone with blindness and brain damage, I
> don't think further isolating us multiply handicapped  people is a
> sensible way. I mean, isn't a teaching of the Federation's, to be
> counted amongst the masses, with the Federation's insisting that,
> blindness is "just a characteristic?" To totally downplay it? We
> appreciate the same thing as "regular" blind people. We would
> appreciate our multiple handicapped-ness downplayed, in much a same
> way. Definitely not a special division to glorified our double handicappedness.
> for today, Car
> 
> !
> Hello,
> I myself don't have multiple disabilities, just blindness, but I'd
> be more than happy to help such a division out and advocate for those people.
> Some of my close close friends are multiply disabled, and I have a
> heart for that kind of advocacy.
> If anything happens, let me know.
> Jahmal
> 
> On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention.
> A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or
> group of students who are interested in advocating for people with
> multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or
> mental. Is there still interest? I'm still interested but was
> wondering if there are members who would like to have a conference
> call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any responses.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From theweird1 at mediacombb.net  Mon Jul 14 15:21:49 2014
From: theweird1 at mediacombb.net (Loren Wakefield)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:21:49 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] examsoft
Message-ID: <000301cf9f77$55194dc0$ff4be940$@mediacombb.net>

Have any of you had to use examsoft?  If so, how accessable is it?  And,
where can one obtain it at the least expensive price?  

 

Loren 

 

 


From codeofdusk at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 16:51:02 2014
From: codeofdusk at gmail.com (Bill Dengler)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 12:51:02 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A problem with voice over and some questions about gps
	apps
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Which device do you have and what version of iOS is it running? What app are you using? Can you give me a list of steps that will reproduce the problem at least sometimes but preferably always?

Bill
> On Jul 13, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Amanda via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Has anyone encountered VoiceOver turning off in the middle of writing? If so, why does this happen and how can it be fixed? Also, what gps apps do you guys use? How does seeing eye compare to blind square?Amanda
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From codeofdusk at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 17:26:26 2014
From: codeofdusk at gmail.com (Bill Dengler)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 13:26:26 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Rising star abc app
In-Reply-To: <6EBB34C6-5D0A-4453-B3C9-F2AB04728BFD@gmail.com>
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Just installed it but don’t understand what I’m to do. In settings you can open up two webviews which contain the websites of the app developers. There’s also an unlabeled toggle switch. The main screen has a page changer and a slider. I’m going to say no on this one, unless I’m totally missing the ball here.

Bill
> On Jul 13, 2014, at 8:31 PM, Amanda via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hey,
> Has anyone tried the rising star app with VoiceOver?Amanda
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From carlymih at comcast.net  Mon Jul 14 18:05:00 2014
From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 11:05:00 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with
 multipledisabilities
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	<0266BE85-B3EA-4F3B-B6DD-2B77F2484EEB@att.net>
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Hi, Karl,

Personally, I already attend a brain damaged support group and I am 
not a Federationist yet, I trust that, as i do, people who are lucky 
enough to be duely effected have social/support groups. indeed, if 
people wanna have an option to combine that support which they 
receive from the Federation with whichever is their additional 
effectation, then yes, such a division ought to exist, for those who want it.
don't clutter the listserv.
>anjelinac at att.net
>
>
>
>-Anjelina
>Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Carly,
> >
> > I don't think I agree that the NFB believes in downplaying 
> blindness or in blending into the masses.  If we believed that, 
> there wouldn't be such a thing as "the organized blind."  No one is 
> suggesting segregating people with multiple disabilities into a 
> special division; the idea is to create a space where people with 
> multiple disabilities can address the issues that matter to them 
> while still participating in the Federation and in general 
> society.  All the reasons you give for not creating a new division 
> if you follow them through should lead to there being no federation either.
> >
> > Best,
> > Karl
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> > To: Jahmal Lovato <jahmallovato at me.com>,National Association of 
> Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>,Anjelina 
> <anjelinac at att.net>,National Association of Blind Students mailing 
> list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> > Date sent: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 04:34:52 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students 
> with multipledisabilities
> >
> > Good morning, Jahmal and List,
> >
> >        Personally, as someone with blindness and brain damage, I
> > don't think further isolating us multiply handicapped  people is a
> > sensible way. I mean, isn't a teaching of the Federation's, to be
> > counted amongst the masses, with the Federation's insisting that,
> > blindness is "just a characteristic?" To totally downplay it? We
> > appreciate the same thing as "regular" blind people. We would
> > appreciate our multiple handicapped-ness downplayed, in much a same
> > way. Definitely not a special division to glorified our double 
> handicappedness.
> > for today, Car
> >
> > !
> > Hello,
> > I myself don't have multiple disabilities, just blindness, but I'd
> > be more than happy to help such a division out and advocate for 
> those people.
> > Some of my close close friends are multiply disabled, and I have a
> > heart for that kind of advocacy.
> > If anything happens, let me know.
> > Jahmal
> >
> > On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention.
> > A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or
> > group of students who are interested in advocating for people with
> > multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or
> > mental. Is there still interest? I'm still interested but was
> > wondering if there are members who would like to have a conference
> > call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any responses.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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From arielle71 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 02:35:47 2014
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:35:47 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] On feeling inadequate after national convention
Message-ID: <CALAYQJDUnGYD+vA-ZFYzC33ZjzLVEUZaToi6EohfjwwCUx+25Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

While the discussion of blindness and multiple disabilities was
happening here, a very similar one was going on on the Parents of
Blind Children listserv. Carlton Walker, the president of the NFB
parents' division, wrote a response, and there is a part of it that
speaks very nicely to the issue of feeling inadequate in comparison to
others in the Federation. I share her wisdom below.

"We each undertake our own journeys on this road of life. It is far
too easy to look at the
current path of a fellow traveler and feel jealousy or anger that that
traveler’s path seems so easy. Of course, the paths we see are just a
sliver of reality. We have no idea about the actual travails others have
faced.

And, come to think of it, it doesn’t matter. Our paths are our own. The
ease (or difficulty) of another person’s journey has no direct bearing on
our own. My daughter’s blindness does not depend on anyone else. My
daughter’s other academic and health concerns are neither ameliorated nor
exacerbated by any other child’s health or academic achievements or
struggles. Life is not a pie from which there is a fixed amount of
opportunity."


From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 02:52:13 2014
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:52:13 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] On feeling inadequate after national convention
In-Reply-To: <CALAYQJDUnGYD+vA-ZFYzC33ZjzLVEUZaToi6EohfjwwCUx+25Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALAYQJDUnGYD+vA-ZFYzC33ZjzLVEUZaToi6EohfjwwCUx+25Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F6BC2F37-7059-48D4-BA6D-2CBE3BD950F3@gmail.com>

There in those words are words of wisdom that while sounding idealistic, are important to always remember.
  We forage our own paths as individuals. Ultimately so long as we find joy in what we do, and love with those we surround ourselves with it would seem to me that we are doing pretty good for ourselves.
So long as the barrier to that happiness is not a barrier that someone else puts on us, nor one that we allow ourselves to have put upon us, we will probably be alright.
Thanks Arielle, and thanks Carlton.

> On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:35 PM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> While the discussion of blindness and multiple disabilities was
> happening here, a very similar one was going on on the Parents of
> Blind Children listserv. Carlton Walker, the president of the NFB
> parents' division, wrote a response, and there is a part of it that
> speaks very nicely to the issue of feeling inadequate in comparison to
> others in the Federation. I share her wisdom below.
> 
> "We each undertake our own journeys on this road of life. It is far
> too easy to look at the
> current path of a fellow traveler and feel jealousy or anger that that
> traveler’s path seems so easy. Of course, the paths we see are just a
> sliver of reality. We have no idea about the actual travails others have
> faced.
> 
> And, come to think of it, it doesn’t matter. Our paths are our own. The
> ease (or difficulty) of another person’s journey has no direct bearing on
> our own. My daughter’s blindness does not depend on anyone else. My
> daughter’s other academic and health concerns are neither ameliorated nor
> exacerbated by any other child’s health or academic achievements or
> struggles. Life is not a pie from which there is a fixed amount of
> opportunity."
> 
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From desai.siddhi14 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 08:40:57 2014
From: desai.siddhi14 at gmail.com (siddhi desai)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:40:57 +0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
Message-ID: <CAB34EgtwE+2ZNRbQQgHws77MMqJCKMCcjc-nw2GN4-iJ5hrQdw@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,
Hope you all are doing well.

Actually, I am planning to travel in USA and facing some issues.

I have flight at Chicago airport operated by EXPRESSJET 		AIRLINES DBA
UNITED EXPR owned by united airlines. I am in conversation with their
customer care executive. They have informed me that On US domestic
airport they do not allow individual  visually impaired to board
alone. Is this an universal law or airline specific laws are
implemented? Or is there any provision of USA government to tackle
this issue? Is there any one travelled from this airline and had
assistance on board?

Sincerely
Siddhi


From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 10:51:09 2014
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 06:51:09 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
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No, that is absolutely not true. You have every right to board alone.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of siddhi desai
via nabs-l
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 4:41 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required

Dear All,
Hope you all are doing well.

Actually, I am planning to travel in USA and facing some issues.

I have flight at Chicago airport operated by EXPRESSJET
AIRLINES DBA
UNITED EXPR owned by united airlines. I am in conversation with their
customer care executive. They have informed me that On US domestic airport
they do not allow individual  visually impaired to board alone. Is this an
universal law or airline specific laws are implemented? Or is there any
provision of USA government to tackle this issue? Is there any one travelled
from this airline and had assistance on board?

Sincerely
Siddhi

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From kmaent1 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 13:13:45 2014
From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 09:13:45 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
Message-ID: <53c52941.825ce00a.0f1e.4e04@mx.google.com>

I agree with Justin, they can't legally require you to board with 
assistance.  If they keep insisting, I would suggest contacting 
the NFB National Center and seeing if they'll get one of our 
lawyers to talk to United on your behalf.

Best,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: justin williams via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "'siddhi desai'" <desai.siddhi14 at gmail.com>,"'National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 06:51:09 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required

No, that is absolutely not true. You have every right to board 
alone.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
siddhi desai
via nabs-l
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 4:41 AM
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required

Dear All,
Hope you all are doing well.

Actually, I am planning to travel in USA and facing some issues.

I have flight at Chicago airport operated by EXPRESSJET
AIRLINES DBA
UNITED EXPR owned by united airlines. I am in conversation with 
their
customer care executive. They have informed me that On US 
domestic airport
they do not allow individual  visually impaired to board alone. 
Is this an
universal law or airline specific laws are implemented? Or is 
there any
provision of USA government to tackle this issue? Is there any 
one travelled
from this airline and had assistance on board?

Sincerely
Siddhi

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From PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu  Tue Jul 15 13:29:25 2014
From: PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu (Justin Salisbury)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:29:25 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] We Need GMAT Accessibility Stories
Message-ID: <211bc1ee22744d1e90fa5d2798f83fec@BN1PR05MB408.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>

Fellow Federationists:

In our national headquarters, we are conducting an investigation of GMAT accessibility, and we need to hear about the successes and struggles faced by blind test-takers.

So as not to clog up this list with individual stories, please send them to me directly at President at Alumni.ECU.edu<mailto:President at Alumni.ECU.edu> so that I can compile them. If anyone is interested in reading the compiled information later, please also reach out directly.

Thank you, everyone!

Justin Salisbury
Summer Intern
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF THE BLIND
410-659-9314, ext 2525
President at Alumni.ECU.edu<mailto:President at Alumni.ECU.edu>


From shickeytha at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 13:54:24 2014
From: shickeytha at gmail.com (Shickeytha Chandler)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 09:54:24 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] On feeling inadequate after national convention
In-Reply-To: <F6BC2F37-7059-48D4-BA6D-2CBE3BD950F3@gmail.com>
References: <CALAYQJDUnGYD+vA-ZFYzC33ZjzLVEUZaToi6EohfjwwCUx+25Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<F6BC2F37-7059-48D4-BA6D-2CBE3BD950F3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFCkBpu6XSct7+87GNyDoCEHQDKmp9KaNjhSDNzTMZsdg_FFZA@mail.gmail.com>

Very well said. Thanks for sharing Arielle.

On 7/14/14, Darian via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> There in those words are words of wisdom that while sounding idealistic, are
> important to always remember.
>   We forage our own paths as individuals. Ultimately so long as we find joy
> in what we do, and love with those we surround ourselves with it would seem
> to me that we are doing pretty good for ourselves.
> So long as the barrier to that happiness is not a barrier that someone else
> puts on us, nor one that we allow ourselves to have put upon us, we will
> probably be alright.
> Thanks Arielle, and thanks Carlton.
>
>> On Jul 14, 2014, at 7:35 PM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> While the discussion of blindness and multiple disabilities was
>> happening here, a very similar one was going on on the Parents of
>> Blind Children listserv. Carlton Walker, the president of the NFB
>> parents' division, wrote a response, and there is a part of it that
>> speaks very nicely to the issue of feeling inadequate in comparison to
>> others in the Federation. I share her wisdom below.
>>
>> "We each undertake our own journeys on this road of life. It is far
>> too easy to look at the
>> current path of a fellow traveler and feel jealousy or anger that that
>> traveler's path seems so easy. Of course, the paths we see are just a
>> sliver of reality. We have no idea about the actual travails others have
>> faced.
>>
>> And, come to think of it, it doesn't matter. Our paths are our own. The
>> ease (or difficulty) of another person's journey has no direct bearing on
>> our own. My daughter's blindness does not depend on anyone else. My
>> daughter's other academic and health concerns are neither ameliorated nor
>> exacerbated by any other child's health or academic achievements or
>> struggles. Life is not a pie from which there is a fixed amount of
>> opportunity."
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
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From lucysirianni at earthlink.net  Tue Jul 15 15:44:36 2014
From: lucysirianni at earthlink.net (Lucy Sirianni)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 08:44:36 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
Message-ID: <E1X74ui-0006Tr-23@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Siddhi,

      I'm sorry you were given such ridiculously prejudiced 
information! You should certainly be able to board a plane on 
your own and take advantage of the airline's offered assistance 
only if and when it is truly helpful.  Having flown a fair 
amount, I find that the best thing to do is generally not to 
request assistance in advance, even if I think I may need some; 
I've never had a problem getting directions and/or a sighted 
guide once I show up at the airport, and I've noticed that once 
you're officially "in the system", employees do tend to be a bit 
more intrusive about the help they expect you to accept.  It 
seems to me that the training airport employees receive about how 
to interact with travelers who are blind is pretty inconsistent; 
some are polite and reasonable, others refuse to believe that a 
blind person could possibly walk through the airport without a 
wheelchair, let alone without a sighted guide.  I hope this 
inconsistency is something that will change someday, but in the 
meantime, just be firm in letting airport employees know what you 
do and don't need, and remember that you can always ask to speak 
to a  supervisor if you feel you're not being heard or respected.

Enjoy your travels!

Lucy
 ----- Original Message -----
From: siddhi desai via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:40:57 +0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required

Dear All,
Hope you all are doing well.

Actually, I am planning to travel in USA and facing some issues.

I have flight at Chicago airport operated by EXPRESSJET 		AIRLINES 
DBA
UNITED EXPR owned by united airlines.  I am in conversation with 
their
customer care executive.  They have informed me that On US 
domestic
airport they do not allow individual  visually impaired to board
alone.  Is this an universal law or airline specific laws are
implemented? Or is there any provision of USA government to 
tackle
this issue? Is there any one travelled from this airline and had
assistance on board?

Sincerely
Siddhi

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From matt.dierckens at me.com  Tue Jul 15 19:18:49 2014
From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:18:49 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] document readers for Ipad
In-Reply-To: <1405295556.42758.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1405295556.42758.YahooMailNeo@web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DA7DED17-6423-437F-8143-1A412EE04F22@me.com>

VoiceDream is a good one.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 13, 2014, at 7:52 PM, kcj21 via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>       I am looking for an app that will read word documents and PDFs on an Ipad. I usually use Zoomtext App Reader on my PC, but I don't think that feature is available on an Ipad. Someone recommended that I try Voicedream. Does that app work well? I would appreciate any advice or recommendations.
> 
> Thank you,
> Kaley
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From cape.amanda at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 19:26:50 2014
From: cape.amanda at gmail.com (cape.amanda at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:26:50 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Nextissue.com
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Hi,
Has anyone heard of Nextissue.com for getting digital formats of magazines? If so, can they be downloaded and read with a note taker?Amanda

From mikgephart at icloud.com  Tue Jul 15 21:07:20 2014
From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 17:07:20 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
In-Reply-To: <E1X74ui-0006Tr-23@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1X74ui-0006Tr-23@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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I would just board alone anywaya

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Lucy Sirianni via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Siddhi,
> 
>     I'm sorry you were given such ridiculously prejudiced information! You should certainly be able to board a plane on your own and take advantage of the airline's offered assistance only if and when it is truly helpful.  Having flown a fair amount, I find that the best thing to do is generally not to request assistance in advance, even if I think I may need some; I've never had a problem getting directions and/or a sighted guide once I show up at the airport, and I've noticed that once you're officially "in the system", employees do tend to be a bit more intrusive about the help they expect you to accept.  It seems to me that the training airport employees receive about how to interact with travelers who are blind is pretty inconsistent; some are polite and reasonable, others refuse to believe that a blind person could possibly walk through the airport without a wheelchair, let alone without a sighted guide.  I hope this inconsistency is something that will change someday, but in the meantime, just be firm in letting airport employees know what you do and don't need, and remember that you can always ask to speak to a  supervisor if you feel you're not being heard or respected.
> 
> Enjoy your travels!
> 
> Lucy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: siddhi desai via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:40:57 +0700
> Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
> 
> Dear All,
> Hope you all are doing well.
> 
> Actually, I am planning to travel in USA and facing some issues.
> 
> I have flight at Chicago airport operated by EXPRESSJET        AIRLINES DBA
> UNITED EXPR owned by united airlines.  I am in conversation with their
> customer care executive.  They have informed me that On US domestic
> airport they do not allow individual  visually impaired to board
> alone.  Is this an universal law or airline specific laws are
> implemented? Or is there any provision of USA government to tackle
> this issue? Is there any one travelled from this airline and had
> assistance on board?
> 
> Sincerely
> Siddhi
> 
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From arielle71 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 15 22:20:06 2014
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:20:06 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
In-Reply-To: <F561019E-3D4F-439A-875B-47FBEC1BBBC5@icloud.com>
References: <E1X74ui-0006Tr-23@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<F561019E-3D4F-439A-875B-47FBEC1BBBC5@icloud.com>
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I have flown on United Airlines several times and boarded alone. There
was never any problem. I agree with others about not calling in
advance; just arrive and either find your gate on your own or request
assistance depending on your preference. I think the customer rep you
spoke with just misunderstood, but if you need to cite any laws then
cite the Federal Air Carrier Access Act. Among other things, it says
that blind passengers have the right to accept or decline assistance
and to fly unaccompanied. Good luck!
Arielle

On 7/15/14, Mikayla Gephart via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I would just board alone anywaya
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Lucy Sirianni via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Siddhi,
>>
>>     I'm sorry you were given such ridiculously prejudiced information! You
>> should certainly be able to board a plane on your own and take advantage
>> of the airline's offered assistance only if and when it is truly helpful.
>> Having flown a fair amount, I find that the best thing to do is generally
>> not to request assistance in advance, even if I think I may need some;
>> I've never had a problem getting directions and/or a sighted guide once I
>> show up at the airport, and I've noticed that once you're officially "in
>> the system", employees do tend to be a bit more intrusive about the help
>> they expect you to accept.  It seems to me that the training airport
>> employees receive about how to interact with travelers who are blind is
>> pretty inconsistent; some are polite and reasonable, others refuse to
>> believe that a blind person could possibly walk through the airport
>> without a wheelchair, let alone without a sighted guide.  I hope this
>> inconsistency is something that will change someday, but in the meantime,
>> just be firm in letting airport employees know what you do and don't need,
>> and remember that you can always ask to speak to a  supervisor if you feel
>> you're not being heard or respected.
>>
>> Enjoy your travels!
>>
>> Lucy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: siddhi desai via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:40:57 +0700
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
>>
>> Dear All,
>> Hope you all are doing well.
>>
>> Actually, I am planning to travel in USA and facing some issues.
>>
>> I have flight at Chicago airport operated by EXPRESSJET        AIRLINES
>> DBA
>> UNITED EXPR owned by united airlines.  I am in conversation with their
>> customer care executive.  They have informed me that On US domestic
>> airport they do not allow individual  visually impaired to board
>> alone.  Is this an universal law or airline specific laws are
>> implemented? Or is there any provision of USA government to tackle
>> this issue? Is there any one travelled from this airline and had
>> assistance on board?
>>
>> Sincerely
>> Siddhi
>>
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From kirt.crazydude at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 00:34:38 2014
From: kirt.crazydude at gmail.com (Kirt)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 18:34:38 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Revisiting idea of division for students with multiple
	disabilities
In-Reply-To: <53c3c083.87278c0a.2607.73bdSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
References: <C0698600-4464-492B-AF0B-DA7F70B7F607@att.net>
	<F3AB1784-E19D-474B-B661-798490C964F9@me.com>
	<53c3c083.87278c0a.2607.73bdSMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
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Carly,
One of my biggest gripes with the Federation is the way in which it claims to be "the voice of the nation's blind,"instead of a voice among the Nation's blind people. I failed to see how your most recent comment, where you are seemingly speaking for all blind people with other disabilities is any different. Am I misunderstanding you?
Best,
Kirt

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 14, 2014, at 5:34 AM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good morning, Jahmal and List,
> 
>        Personally, as someone with blindness and brain damage, I don't think further isolating us multiply handicapped  people is a sensible way. I mean, isn't a teaching of the Federation's, to be counted amongst the masses, with the Federation's insisting that, blindness is "just a characteristic?" To totally downplay it? We appreciate the same thing as "regular" blind people. We would appreciate our multiple handicapped-ness downplayed, in much a same way. Definitely not a special division to glorified our double handicappedness.
> for today, Car
> 
> !
>> Hello,
>> I myself don't have multiple disabilities, just blindness, but I'd be more than happy to help such a division out and advocate for those people.
>> Some of my close close friends are multiply disabled, and I have a heart for that kind of advocacy.
>> If anything happens, let me know.
>> Jahmal
>> 
>> On Jul 13, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> > Good evening all, I hope everyone is doing well after convention. A few months ago there was a thread about starting a division or group of students who are interested in advocating for people with multiple disabilities, whether they be intellectual, physical, or mental. Is there still interest? I'm still interested but was wondering if there are members who would like to have a conference call to further discuss ideas. Thank you for any responses.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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From desai1shikha at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 00:42:55 2014
From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 20:42:55 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
In-Reply-To: <CALAYQJB2gu0zMwdhzDkiCqruT8qCWBEM3cFAFXEtjum68_dyRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1X74ui-0006Tr-23@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<F561019E-3D4F-439A-875B-47FBEC1BBBC5@icloud.com>
	<CALAYQJB2gu0zMwdhzDkiCqruT8qCWBEM3cFAFXEtjum68_dyRw@mail.gmail.com>
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I agree with arial because you have the choice to bord alone or with some one. 
I always board on my own.  
Always remember to use your cane and do not let any one to grab your cane or your hand or your arm
Just tell them that you can do it with your cane and tell them that you are an independent blind cane traveler 
Also tell them that i have flown alone many times and no one had to escort me to my seat.
Just remember that sighted people will belief you when you show them that you are able to show what you are explaining to them.  

Shikha. 

> On Jul 15, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I have flown on United Airlines several times and boarded alone. There
> was never any problem. I agree with others about not calling in
> advance; just arrive and either find your gate on your own or request
> assistance depending on your preference. I think the customer rep you
> spoke with just misunderstood, but if you need to cite any laws then
> cite the Federal Air Carrier Access Act. Among other things, it says
> that blind passengers have the right to accept or decline assistance
> and to fly unaccompanied. Good luck!
> Arielle
> 
>> On 7/15/14, Mikayla Gephart via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I would just board alone anywaya
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Lucy Sirianni via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Siddhi,
>>> 
>>>    I'm sorry you were given such ridiculously prejudiced information! You
>>> should certainly be able to board a plane on your own and take advantage
>>> of the airline's offered assistance only if and when it is truly helpful.
>>> Having flown a fair amount, I find that the best thing to do is generally
>>> not to request assistance in advance, even if I think I may need some;
>>> I've never had a problem getting directions and/or a sighted guide once I
>>> show up at the airport, and I've noticed that once you're officially "in
>>> the system", employees do tend to be a bit more intrusive about the help
>>> they expect you to accept.  It seems to me that the training airport
>>> employees receive about how to interact with travelers who are blind is
>>> pretty inconsistent; some are polite and reasonable, others refuse to
>>> believe that a blind person could possibly walk through the airport
>>> without a wheelchair, let alone without a sighted guide.  I hope this
>>> inconsistency is something that will change someday, but in the meantime,
>>> just be firm in letting airport employees know what you do and don't need,
>>> and remember that you can always ask to speak to a  supervisor if you feel
>>> you're not being heard or respected.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy your travels!
>>> 
>>> Lucy
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: siddhi desai via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:40:57 +0700
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> Hope you all are doing well.
>>> 
>>> Actually, I am planning to travel in USA and facing some issues.
>>> 
>>> I have flight at Chicago airport operated by EXPRESSJET        AIRLINES
>>> DBA
>>> UNITED EXPR owned by united airlines.  I am in conversation with their
>>> customer care executive.  They have informed me that On US domestic
>>> airport they do not allow individual  visually impaired to board
>>> alone.  Is this an universal law or airline specific laws are
>>> implemented? Or is there any provision of USA government to tackle
>>> this issue? Is there any one travelled from this airline and had
>>> assistance on board?
>>> 
>>> Sincerely
>>> Siddhi
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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From freethaught at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 02:44:50 2014
From: freethaught at gmail.com (Antonio Guimaraes)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 22:44:50 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
In-Reply-To: <CALAYQJB2gu0zMwdhzDkiCqruT8qCWBEM3cFAFXEtjum68_dyRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E1X74ui-0006Tr-23@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<F561019E-3D4F-439A-875B-47FBEC1BBBC5@icloud.com>
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Hi,

I have some friends who are flight nerds. Mika Pyyhkala is a past NFB national board member and he flies quite a bit.

His advice to me and others is often to call up the airline and ask that they remove the SSR from your PRN.

I believe the acronyms are right. At any rate, this airline lingo stands for removing the special service request from your personal record number.

You will get quicker results if you use airline lingo with airline people over the phone, without hassle to contact the national office to advocate for you.

If the customer service representative on the phone does not respond to your liking, you should request to speak to a CRO, customer relations officer, and your ordeal should get resolved fairly quick.

Good luck,

Antonio





On Jul 15, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> I have flown on United Airlines several times and boarded alone. There
> was never any problem. I agree with others about not calling in
> advance; just arrive and either find your gate on your own or request
> assistance depending on your preference. I think the customer rep you
> spoke with just misunderstood, but if you need to cite any laws then
> cite the Federal Air Carrier Access Act. Among other things, it says
> that blind passengers have the right to accept or decline assistance
> and to fly unaccompanied. Good luck!
> Arielle
> 
> On 7/15/14, Mikayla Gephart via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I would just board alone anywaya
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Lucy Sirianni via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Siddhi,
>>> 
>>>    I'm sorry you were given such ridiculously prejudiced information! You
>>> should certainly be able to board a plane on your own and take advantage
>>> of the airline's offered assistance only if and when it is truly helpful.
>>> Having flown a fair amount, I find that the best thing to do is generally
>>> not to request assistance in advance, even if I think I may need some;
>>> I've never had a problem getting directions and/or a sighted guide once I
>>> show up at the airport, and I've noticed that once you're officially "in
>>> the system", employees do tend to be a bit more intrusive about the help
>>> they expect you to accept.  It seems to me that the training airport
>>> employees receive about how to interact with travelers who are blind is
>>> pretty inconsistent; some are polite and reasonable, others refuse to
>>> believe that a blind person could possibly walk through the airport
>>> without a wheelchair, let alone without a sighted guide.  I hope this
>>> inconsistency is something that will change someday, but in the meantime,
>>> just be firm in letting airport employees know what you do and don't need,
>>> and remember that you can always ask to speak to a  supervisor if you feel
>>> you're not being heard or respected.
>>> 
>>> Enjoy your travels!
>>> 
>>> Lucy
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: siddhi desai via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:40:57 +0700
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> Hope you all are doing well.
>>> 
>>> Actually, I am planning to travel in USA and facing some issues.
>>> 
>>> I have flight at Chicago airport operated by EXPRESSJET        AIRLINES
>>> DBA
>>> UNITED EXPR owned by united airlines.  I am in conversation with their
>>> customer care executive.  They have informed me that On US domestic
>>> airport they do not allow individual  visually impaired to board
>>> alone.  Is this an universal law or airline specific laws are
>>> implemented? Or is there any provision of USA government to tackle
>>> this issue? Is there any one travelled from this airline and had
>>> assistance on board?
>>> 
>>> Sincerely
>>> Siddhi
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From desai.siddhi14 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 07:22:06 2014
From: desai.siddhi14 at gmail.com (siddhi desai)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 14:22:06 +0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
In-Reply-To: <0CFA500F-4638-4BFE-9A3E-0D889E341D98@gmail.com>
References: <E1X74ui-0006Tr-23@elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<F561019E-3D4F-439A-875B-47FBEC1BBBC5@icloud.com>
	<CALAYQJB2gu0zMwdhzDkiCqruT8qCWBEM3cFAFXEtjum68_dyRw@mail.gmail.com>
	<0CFA500F-4638-4BFE-9A3E-0D889E341D98@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB34Egvm3ZHQxufndDdjFM+r=q8kB53_2NvDmCb3Cn87RPP8UQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks everyone for the valuable suggestioni  will try to incorporate
these suggestions.

Sincerely
Siddhi

On 7/16/14, Antonio Guimaraes via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have some friends who are flight nerds. Mika Pyyhkala is a past NFB
> national board member and he flies quite a bit.
>
> His advice to me and others is often to call up the airline and ask that
> they remove the SSR from your PRN.
>
> I believe the acronyms are right. At any rate, this airline lingo stands for
> removing the special service request from your personal record number.
>
> You will get quicker results if you use airline lingo with airline people
> over the phone, without hassle to contact the national office to advocate
> for you.
>
> If the customer service representative on the phone does not respond to your
> liking, you should request to speak to a CRO, customer relations officer,
> and your ordeal should get resolved fairly quick.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> I have flown on United Airlines several times and boarded alone. There
>> was never any problem. I agree with others about not calling in
>> advance; just arrive and either find your gate on your own or request
>> assistance depending on your preference. I think the customer rep you
>> spoke with just misunderstood, but if you need to cite any laws then
>> cite the Federal Air Carrier Access Act. Among other things, it says
>> that blind passengers have the right to accept or decline assistance
>> and to fly unaccompanied. Good luck!
>> Arielle
>>
>> On 7/15/14, Mikayla Gephart via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I would just board alone anywaya
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Lucy Sirianni via nabs-l
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Siddhi,
>>>>
>>>>    I'm sorry you were given such ridiculously prejudiced information!
>>>> You
>>>> should certainly be able to board a plane on your own and take
>>>> advantage
>>>> of the airline's offered assistance only if and when it is truly
>>>> helpful.
>>>> Having flown a fair amount, I find that the best thing to do is
>>>> generally
>>>> not to request assistance in advance, even if I think I may need some;
>>>> I've never had a problem getting directions and/or a sighted guide once
>>>> I
>>>> show up at the airport, and I've noticed that once you're officially
>>>> "in
>>>> the system", employees do tend to be a bit more intrusive about the
>>>> help
>>>> they expect you to accept.  It seems to me that the training airport
>>>> employees receive about how to interact with travelers who are blind is
>>>> pretty inconsistent; some are polite and reasonable, others refuse to
>>>> believe that a blind person could possibly walk through the airport
>>>> without a wheelchair, let alone without a sighted guide.  I hope this
>>>> inconsistency is something that will change someday, but in the
>>>> meantime,
>>>> just be firm in letting airport employees know what you do and don't
>>>> need,
>>>> and remember that you can always ask to speak to a  supervisor if you
>>>> feel
>>>> you're not being heard or respected.
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy your travels!
>>>>
>>>> Lucy
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: siddhi desai via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:40:57 +0700
>>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Air travel an advise required
>>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> Hope you all are doing well.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I am planning to travel in USA and facing some issues.
>>>>
>>>> I have flight at Chicago airport operated by EXPRESSJET        AIRLINES
>>>> DBA
>>>> UNITED EXPR owned by united airlines.  I am in conversation with their
>>>> customer care executive.  They have informed me that On US domestic
>>>> airport they do not allow individual  visually impaired to board
>>>> alone.  Is this an universal law or airline specific laws are
>>>> implemented? Or is there any provision of USA government to tackle
>>>> this issue? Is there any one travelled from this airline and had
>>>> assistance on board?
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely
>>>> Siddhi
>>>>
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 14:52:02 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 10:52:02 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] The Importance Of Independent Travel
Message-ID: <53c69198.461bec0a.1674.5112@mx.google.com>

Dear Students,

I'd like to discuss another topic with all of you.  On Monday I 
had a conversation with my mobility instructor during my training 
session at UCF.  We were talking about the importance of 
traveling independently as blind individuals.  I got very 
emotional while we were having this conversation and began to 
cry.  Because I've never traveled independently in the community, 
I lack the experience of traveling on my own.  Can each of you 
tell me your stories about inarependent travel? Hope to hear from 
you soon.


From desai1shikha at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 16:13:46 2014
From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 12:13:46 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] The Importance Of Independent Travel
In-Reply-To: <53c69198.461bec0a.1674.5112@mx.google.com>
References: <53c69198.461bec0a.1674.5112@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <A5F04DB6-8A3A-431C-A191-4001FFF5AF59@gmail.com>

Hi 
My name is shikha and i travel independently with my long white cane.   
Before i went to training at Louisiana center for the blind i did not use a cane because i did not want to except my blindness. 
I have retinitis pigmentosa and did not leave the house at night. 
My advice is to travel with sleep shades and always challenge your self.
It is ok to cry because it is natural  to get upset. Just keep trying every day because you are eventually going to become confident and independent.  At first it is hard to get used to them but eventually you will love them if you keep telling your self that i love being blind then every day you will have the motivation to travel with sleep shades.  Also go to the NFB website and order a free white cane.   I am ready for becoming completely blind but i am happy that i have vision before the sun goes down and i do not mind if my vision keeps on deteriorating.      


Shikha.  

> On Jul 16, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear Students,
> 
> I'd like to discuss another topic with all of you.  On Monday I had a conversation with my mobility instructor during my training session at UCF.  We were talking about the importance of traveling independently as blind individuals.  I got very emotional while we were having this conversation and began to cry.  Because I've never traveled independently in the community, I lack the experience of traveling on my own.  Can each of you tell me your stories about inarependent travel? Hope to hear from you soon.
> 
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From internetradioentertainer at gmail.com  Wed Jul 16 20:50:54 2014
From: internetradioentertainer at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 16:50:54 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A Convention Related Announcement And A Cappellas
 Anonymous Returns With Some Vocal Magic Tonight
In-Reply-To: <53c69198.461bec0a.1674.5112@mx.google.com>
References: <53c69198.461bec0a.1674.5112@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <53C6E5AE.4070208@gmail.com>

Hi All!
Before pasting the info below for those interested, I wanted to let 
everyone know taht I expect to be uploading the nabs meeting tomorrow. I 
came home, and had to deal with funeral proceedings which took a few 
days. So that put me behind on some things. But I expect to have a link 
for all of you to use tomorrow, so watch this list for details.
Now, for anyone wanting some music tonight, read below....
Greetings All!
After a small break while I was doing some traveling, A Cappellas 
Anonymous is back and ready to serve up some vocally appealing music 
tonight at 7 PM eastern until 10PM eastern on The Bell.
We'll hear a tribute to the broadway show Newsies done by Vocalpoint, 
another great song from another BYU group, and other great a cappella 
songs from the college and professional groups you've come to love from 
this show.
Got any requests? Tweet them to
crazyyetfun2014
Skype them to
daviddunphyradio
or call me at
516-945-9165
and tune in between 7 and 10PM eastern at
http://the-bell.net/listen
Enjoy!


From arielle71 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 17 04:38:19 2014
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 21:38:19 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] The Importance Of Independent Travel
In-Reply-To: <A5F04DB6-8A3A-431C-A191-4001FFF5AF59@gmail.com>
References: <53c69198.461bec0a.1674.5112@mx.google.com>
	<A5F04DB6-8A3A-431C-A191-4001FFF5AF59@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALAYQJC6+4AUyme3mw3+YrEtKgU6mY4qmqoZe8PPqcW+Bbm_6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Roanna and all,

In thinking about independent travel, I would start by asking what may
seem like an obvious question: Do sighted people have the right to
travel independently where they want to go when they want to go there?
If the answer to that is yes, then it shouldn't be any different for
blind people. Unfortunately, sometimes well-meaning people in our
lives like parents or teachers seem to think that independent travel
is scary, dangerous or less important for us than it is for them and
other sighted people they know. This is not true, but we can start to
believe that because that's what the people around us believe. That
was my own experience for many years. I feared going places by myself
and crossing streets, not for any real reason, but just because
sighted people put their own fears upon me. However, I overcame this
by moving out on my own, and later by attending LCB. I think you would
be an excellent candidate for an NFB training center. I am glad you
are getting mobility instruction now, but I think you really need to
be living away from your parents before you will have the chance to
grow and develop your skills. An NFB center will give you 6-9 months
of rent-free housing away from your family with instructors who can
help you gain confidence. Eventually you will likely realize that you
are fully capable of functioning as an independent, self-sufficient
adult, and the only thing holding you back is other people's
misunderstandings of blindness.

Best,
Arielle

On 7/16/14, Shikha via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi
> My name is shikha and i travel independently with my long white cane.
> Before i went to training at Louisiana center for the blind i did not use a
> cane because i did not want to except my blindness.
> I have retinitis pigmentosa and did not leave the house at night.
> My advice is to travel with sleep shades and always challenge your self.
> It is ok to cry because it is natural  to get upset. Just keep trying every
> day because you are eventually going to become confident and independent.
> At first it is hard to get used to them but eventually you will love them if
> you keep telling your self that i love being blind then every day you will
> have the motivation to travel with sleep shades.  Also go to the NFB website
> and order a free white cane.   I am ready for becoming completely blind but
> i am happy that i have vision before the sun goes down and i do not mind if
> my vision keeps on deteriorating.
>
>
> Shikha.
>
>> On Jul 16, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Students,
>>
>> I'd like to discuss another topic with all of you.  On Monday I had a
>> conversation with my mobility instructor during my training session at
>> UCF.  We were talking about the importance of traveling independently as
>> blind individuals.  I got very emotional while we were having this
>> conversation and began to cry.  Because I've never traveled independently
>> in the community, I lack the experience of traveling on my own.  Can each
>> of you tell me your stories about inarependent travel? Hope to hear from
>> you soon.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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From mkvnfb94 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 17 23:06:15 2014
From: mkvnfb94 at gmail.com (Mariya Vasileva)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 19:06:15 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Mathematics and Cosmology interest.
Message-ID: <CA+D3vOSg6UKRCxXFZ=x1Z1w_Je4gAnFCtpnSXh_PVkrFyjfHwQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all: I am planning to major in Cosmology once I get in to
college, but there is an issue that is holding me back from pursuing
it with even greater determination. I am very sucky with math, and I
know that I have to be very strong in this subject as well as science
in order for me to have this grand interest of mine become a
successful reality. Is there any way that I can receive assistance in
strengthening this set back? I really don't want to give up my hope
for this dream just yet! If there is any advice that anyone would like
to give me to help me solve this issue I will greatly appreciate it.
Thanks. Mariya


From zdreicer at gmail.com  Fri Jul 18 00:21:31 2014
From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 18:21:31 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Mathematics and Cosmology interest.
In-Reply-To: <CA+D3vOSg6UKRCxXFZ=x1Z1w_Je4gAnFCtpnSXh_PVkrFyjfHwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+D3vOSg6UKRCxXFZ=x1Z1w_Je4gAnFCtpnSXh_PVkrFyjfHwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <144AF1CD-4D22-472B-9E96-E8B9610BFE1A@gmail.com>

Hey :-) I would get tutoring in math if you can. Just go back to very basic elementary method start working up from there… Talk to you soon I'm sure :-)

Sent from my iPhone 5S Using VoiceOver

> On Jul 17, 2014, at 17:06, Mariya Vasileva via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello all: I am planning to major in Cosmology once I get in to
> college, but there is an issue that is holding me back from pursuing
> it with even greater determination. I am very sucky with math, and I
> know that I have to be very strong in this subject as well as science
> in order for me to have this grand interest of mine become a
> successful reality. Is there any way that I can receive assistance in
> strengthening this set back? I really don't want to give up my hope
> for this dream just yet! If there is any advice that anyone would like
> to give me to help me solve this issue I will greatly appreciate it.
> Thanks. Mariya
> 
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From blackbyrdfly at gmail.com  Fri Jul 18 03:28:20 2014
From: blackbyrdfly at gmail.com (Jamie Principato)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 21:28:20 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Mathematics and Cosmology interest.
In-Reply-To: <CA+D3vOSg6UKRCxXFZ=x1Z1w_Je4gAnFCtpnSXh_PVkrFyjfHwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+D3vOSg6UKRCxXFZ=x1Z1w_Je4gAnFCtpnSXh_PVkrFyjfHwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E00BC960-9842-440D-96B0-03D45D8532A6@gmail.com>

.i used to be really terrible at Math, too, until a friend and mathematician introduced me to a whole new side of the subject that opened it up for me, and showed me how much simpler it all is when you really start taking it apart. It's also truly fascinating stuff when you have something like cosmology and physics to map it onto. I've been excelling in Math since then, and even decided to pursue a career in physics so I can keep studying math throughout my life. The thing that made the most difference for me was embracing the areas of Math I struggled with, and instead of shying away in embarrassment, tackling the gaps in my foundation head on and practicing and reading and practicing some more until it becomes second nature. Re-learning forgotten arithmetic is nothing to be ashamed of, and even some of History's greatest scientists and mathematicians admitted in their writing of struggling with arithmetic or algebra. You're welcome to email me off list and we can talk specific strategies for specific areas of math you struggle with. I tutor math on the side of my own studies and would love to help you out. 

Best,

Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Mariya Vasileva via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello all: I am planning to major in Cosmology once I get in to
> college, but there is an issue that is holding me back from pursuing
> it with even greater determination. I am very sucky with math, and I
> know that I have to be very strong in this subject as well as science
> in order for me to have this grand interest of mine become a
> successful reality. Is there any way that I can receive assistance in
> strengthening this set back? I really don't want to give up my hope
> for this dream just yet! If there is any advice that anyone would like
> to give me to help me solve this issue I will greatly appreciate it.
> Thanks. Mariya
> 
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From lilliepennington at fuse.net  Fri Jul 18 03:42:00 2014
From: lilliepennington at fuse.net (Lillie Pennington)
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:42:00 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Mathematics and Cosmology interest.
In-Reply-To: <CA+D3vOSg6UKRCxXFZ=x1Z1w_Je4gAnFCtpnSXh_PVkrFyjfHwQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+D3vOSg6UKRCxXFZ=x1Z1w_Je4gAnFCtpnSXh_PVkrFyjfHwQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B55DD60E-DC16-4010-8CB5-EE6BEC6FA54F@fuse.net>

Can you tell us specific areas you struggle with? We may be able to give more specific advice.
Something that I found was that I would need to hear or see multiple explanations of a concept before I understood it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2014, at 7:06 PM, Mariya Vasileva via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello all: I am planning to major in Cosmology once I get in to
> college, but there is an issue that is holding me back from pursuing
> it with even greater determination. I am very sucky with math, and I
> know that I have to be very strong in this subject as well as science
> in order for me to have this grand interest of mine become a
> successful reality. Is there any way that I can receive assistance in
> strengthening this set back? I really don't want to give up my hope
> for this dream just yet! If there is any advice that anyone would like
> to give me to help me solve this issue I will greatly appreciate it.
> Thanks. Mariya
> 
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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 18 10:45:53 2014
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 06:45:53 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Mathematics and Cosmology interest.
In-Reply-To: <E00BC960-9842-440D-96B0-03D45D8532A6@gmail.com>
References: <CA+D3vOSg6UKRCxXFZ=x1Z1w_Je4gAnFCtpnSXh_PVkrFyjfHwQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<E00BC960-9842-440D-96B0-03D45D8532A6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <011d01cfa275$73764d80$5a62e880$@gmail.com>

Where were  you when I needed you?   Lol

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie
Principato via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:28 PM
To: Mariya Vasileva; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Mathematics and Cosmology interest.

.i used to be really terrible at Math, too, until a friend and mathematician
introduced me to a whole new side of the subject that opened it up for me,
and showed me how much simpler it all is when you really start taking it
apart. It's also truly fascinating stuff when you have something like
cosmology and physics to map it onto. I've been excelling in Math since
then, and even decided to pursue a career in physics so I can keep studying
math throughout my life. The thing that made the most difference for me was
embracing the areas of Math I struggled with, and instead of shying away in
embarrassment, tackling the gaps in my foundation head on and practicing and
reading and practicing some more until it becomes second nature. Re-learning
forgotten arithmetic is nothing to be ashamed of, and even some of History's
greatest scientists and mathematicians admitted in their writing of
struggling with arithmetic or algebra. You're welcome to email me off list
and we can talk specific strategies for specific areas of math you struggle
with. I tutor math on the side of my own studies and would love to help you
out. 

Best,

Jamie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Mariya Vasileva via nabs-l
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hello all: I am planning to major in Cosmology once I get in to 
> college, but there is an issue that is holding me back from pursuing 
> it with even greater determination. I am very sucky with math, and I 
> know that I have to be very strong in this subject as well as science 
> in order for me to have this grand interest of mine become a 
> successful reality. Is there any way that I can receive assistance in 
> strengthening this set back? I really don't want to give up my hope 
> for this dream just yet! If there is any advice that anyone would like 
> to give me to help me solve this issue I will greatly appreciate it.
> Thanks. Mariya
> 
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 18 13:10:51 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:10:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] The Importance Of Independent Travel
In-Reply-To: <CALAYQJC6+4AUyme3mw3+YrEtKgU6mY4qmqoZe8PPqcW+Bbm_6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <53c69198.461bec0a.1674.5112@mx.google.com>
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	<CALAYQJC6+4AUyme3mw3+YrEtKgU6mY4qmqoZe8PPqcW+Bbm_6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <09B1086C-9B13-4D2A-9538-C00ECCAF7717@gmail.com>

Hi arielle thanks so much for your message. I reY appreciate reading your response. My mobility instructor told me that you have to be reY strong to attend an Nfb training center. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 17, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Roanna and all,
> 
> In thinking about independent travel, I would start by asking what may
> seem like an obvious question: Do sighted people have the right to
> travel independently where they want to go when they want to go there?
> If the answer to that is yes, then it shouldn't be any different for
> blind people. Unfortunately, sometimes well-meaning people in our
> lives like parents or teachers seem to think that independent travel
> is scary, dangerous or less important for us than it is for them and
> other sighted people they know. This is not true, but we can start to
> believe that because that's what the people around us believe. That
> was my own experience for many years. I feared going places by myself
> and crossing streets, not for any real reason, but just because
> sighted people put their own fears upon me. However, I overcame this
> by moving out on my own, and later by attending LCB. I think you would
> be an excellent candidate for an NFB training center. I am glad you
> are getting mobility instruction now, but I think you really need to
> be living away from your parents before you will have the chance to
> grow and develop your skills. An NFB center will give you 6-9 months
> of rent-free housing away from your family with instructors who can
> help you gain confidence. Eventually you will likely realize that you
> are fully capable of functioning as an independent, self-sufficient
> adult, and the only thing holding you back is other people's
> misunderstandings of blindness.
> 
> Best,
> Arielle
> 
>> On 7/16/14, Shikha via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi
>> My name is shikha and i travel independently with my long white cane.
>> Before i went to training at Louisiana center for the blind i did not use a
>> cane because i did not want to except my blindness.
>> I have retinitis pigmentosa and did not leave the house at night.
>> My advice is to travel with sleep shades and always challenge your self.
>> It is ok to cry because it is natural  to get upset. Just keep trying every
>> day because you are eventually going to become confident and independent.
>> At first it is hard to get used to them but eventually you will love them if
>> you keep telling your self that i love being blind then every day you will
>> have the motivation to travel with sleep shades.  Also go to the NFB website
>> and order a free white cane.   I am ready for becoming completely blind but
>> i am happy that i have vision before the sun goes down and i do not mind if
>> my vision keeps on deteriorating.
>> 
>> 
>> Shikha.
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Students,
>>> 
>>> I'd like to discuss another topic with all of you.  On Monday I had a
>>> conversation with my mobility instructor during my training session at
>>> UCF.  We were talking about the importance of traveling independently as
>>> blind individuals.  I got very emotional while we were having this
>>> conversation and began to cry.  Because I've never traveled independently
>>> in the community, I lack the experience of traveling on my own.  Can each
>>> of you tell me your stories about inarependent travel? Hope to hear from
>>> you soon.
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/desai1shikha%40gmail.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> nabs-l:
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>> 
> 
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From mkvnfb94 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 18 13:55:02 2014
From: mkvnfb94 at gmail.com (Mariya Vasileva)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 09:55:02 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Mathematics and Cosmology interest.
In-Reply-To: <011d01cfa275$73764d80$5a62e880$@gmail.com>
References: <CA+D3vOSg6UKRCxXFZ=x1Z1w_Je4gAnFCtpnSXh_PVkrFyjfHwQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<E00BC960-9842-440D-96B0-03D45D8532A6@gmail.com>
	<011d01cfa275$73764d80$5a62e880$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A5B79521-AE47-4A95-BF25-D4888532F047@gmail.com>



Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 18, 2014, at 6:45, justin williams via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Where were  you when I needed you?   Lol
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jamie
> Principato via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 11:28 PM
> To: Mariya Vasileva; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Mathematics and Cosmology interest.
> 
> .i used to be really terrible at Math, too, until a friend and mathematician
> introduced me to a whole new side of the subject that opened it up for me,
> and showed me how much simpler it all is when you really start taking it
> apart. It's also truly fascinating stuff when you have something like
> cosmology and physics to map it onto. I've been excelling in Math since
> then, and even decided to pursue a career in physics so I can keep studying
> math throughout my life. The thing that made the most difference for me was
> embracing the areas of Math I struggled with, and instead of shying away in
> embarrassment, tackling the gaps in my foundation head on and practicing and
> reading and practicing some more until it becomes second nature. Re-learning
> forgotten arithmetic is nothing to be ashamed of, and even some of History's
> greatest scientists and mathematicians admitted in their writing of
> struggling with arithmetic or algebra. You're welcome to email me off list
> and we can talk specific strategies for specific areas of math you struggle
> with. I tutor math on the side of my own studies and would love to help you
> out. 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jamie
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Mariya Vasileva via nabs-l
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all: I am planning to major in Cosmology once I get in to 
>> college, but there is an issue that is holding me back from pursuing 
>> it with even greater determination. I am very sucky with math, and I 
>> know that I have to be very strong in this subject as well as science 
>> in order for me to have this grand interest of mine become a 
>> successful reality. Is there any way that I can receive assistance in 
>> strengthening this set back? I really don't want to give up my hope 
>> for this dream just yet! If there is any advice that anyone would like 
>> to give me to help me solve this issue I will greatly appreciate it.
>> Thanks. Mariya
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nabs-l:
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>> il.com
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> .com
> 
> 
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Huh? What do you mean?:)

From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 19 00:24:45 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 20:24:45 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Trying To Subscribe to the Nfb of Florida Mailing List
Message-ID: <53c9bad8.525aec0a.4222.ffffa70b@mx.google.com>

Can someone send me the subscription address for the Nfb of 
Florida mailing list?


From franks.jonathan13 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 19 00:29:25 2014
From: franks.jonathan13 at gmail.com (jonathan franks)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 19:29:25 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Trying To Subscribe to the Nfb of Florida Mailing List
In-Reply-To: <53c9bad8.525aec0a.4222.ffffa70b@mx.google.com>
References: <53c9bad8.525aec0a.4222.ffffa70b@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAHEy+8UWeNbRvvtHQqbZWNbd9yBAd7E36ZwD_MUSy6CBz0L+8w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Try this link:

http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nfbf-l_nfbnet.org

If not, you can visit http://www.nfbnet.org

Good luck!

On 7/18/14, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Can someone send me the subscription address for the Nfb of
> Florida mailing list?
>
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> nabs-l:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/franks.jonathan13%40gmail.com
>


-- 
Jonathan Franks
Austin Chapter Board Member
National Federation of the Blind
www.nfbaustin.org

Hook the Cure Board Member
Social Media Manager
The University of Texas at Austin
www.texashookthecure.weebly.co

Diabetes Action Network (NFB)
National Board Member


From anjelinac at att.net  Sat Jul 19 03:20:23 2014
From: anjelinac at att.net (Anjelina)
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 23:20:23 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] The Importance Of Independent Travel
In-Reply-To: <09B1086C-9B13-4D2A-9538-C00ECCAF7717@gmail.com>
References: <53c69198.461bec0a.1674.5112@mx.google.com>
	<A5F04DB6-8A3A-431C-A191-4001FFF5AF59@gmail.com>
	<CALAYQJC6+4AUyme3mw3+YrEtKgU6mY4qmqoZe8PPqcW+Bbm_6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<09B1086C-9B13-4D2A-9538-C00ECCAF7717@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFD66CF-BAAB-4C78-B15F-D8D148F04CB9@att.net>

Hi Roanna,
Arielle has great advice! I believe anyone of varying skill abilities can attend an NFB training center. The purpose of the centers is to help all its students become independent. Have you considered an NFB center?
In my experience some mobility instructors have misconceptions about what the NFB training centers are like. The instructors will work with you on your specific goals. Training is always an option. Try not to throw it out the window just because well-meaning sighted people say it's not for you.
Keep your great questions coming!


-Anjelina
Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 18, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi arielle thanks so much for your message. I reY appreciate reading your response. My mobility instructor told me that you have to be reY strong to attend an Nfb training center. 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jul 17, 2014, at 12:38 AM, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Roanna and all,
>> 
>> In thinking about independent travel, I would start by asking what may
>> seem like an obvious question: Do sighted people have the right to
>> travel independently where they want to go when they want to go there?
>> If the answer to that is yes, then it shouldn't be any different for
>> blind people. Unfortunately, sometimes well-meaning people in our
>> lives like parents or teachers seem to think that independent travel
>> is scary, dangerous or less important for us than it is for them and
>> other sighted people they know. This is not true, but we can start to
>> believe that because that's what the people around us believe. That
>> was my own experience for many years. I feared going places by myself
>> and crossing streets, not for any real reason, but just because
>> sighted people put their own fears upon me. However, I overcame this
>> by moving out on my own, and later by attending LCB. I think you would
>> be an excellent candidate for an NFB training center. I am glad you
>> are getting mobility instruction now, but I think you really need to
>> be living away from your parents before you will have the chance to
>> grow and develop your skills. An NFB center will give you 6-9 months
>> of rent-free housing away from your family with instructors who can
>> help you gain confidence. Eventually you will likely realize that you
>> are fully capable of functioning as an independent, self-sufficient
>> adult, and the only thing holding you back is other people's
>> misunderstandings of blindness.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Arielle
>> 
>>> On 7/16/14, Shikha via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> My name is shikha and i travel independently with my long white cane.
>>> Before i went to training at Louisiana center for the blind i did not use a
>>> cane because i did not want to except my blindness.
>>> I have retinitis pigmentosa and did not leave the house at night.
>>> My advice is to travel with sleep shades and always challenge your self.
>>> It is ok to cry because it is natural  to get upset. Just keep trying every
>>> day because you are eventually going to become confident and independent.
>>> At first it is hard to get used to them but eventually you will love them if
>>> you keep telling your self that i love being blind then every day you will
>>> have the motivation to travel with sleep shades.  Also go to the NFB website
>>> and order a free white cane.   I am ready for becoming completely blind but
>>> i am happy that i have vision before the sun goes down and i do not mind if
>>> my vision keeps on deteriorating.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Shikha.
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 16, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Students,
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like to discuss another topic with all of you.  On Monday I had a
>>>> conversation with my mobility instructor during my training session at
>>>> UCF.  We were talking about the importance of traveling independently as
>>>> blind individuals.  I got very emotional while we were having this
>>>> conversation and began to cry.  Because I've never traveled independently
>>>> in the community, I lack the experience of traveling on my own.  Can each
>>>> of you tell me your stories about inarependent travel? Hope to hear from
>>>> you soon.
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> nabs-l:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/desai1shikha%40gmail.com
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> nabs-l:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/arielle71%40gmail.com
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/rbacchus228%40gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From internetradioentertainer at gmail.com  Sat Jul 19 15:34:00 2014
From: internetradioentertainer at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:34:00 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] At Long Last,
	The Nabs Business Meeting From Convention Is Here
Message-ID: <53CA8FE8.4030308@gmail.com>

Hi All!
At long last, here's the nabs convention business meeting from this 
year's convention. It includes some elction coveragge through the 
election of the secretary.
I did what I could with the recording equipment I had, I hope you enjoy 
it. This is a direct link that will start downloading the file for you.
https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/u78c5e

Enjoy, and thanks to Nabs for another great meeting and convention.


From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 19 18:34:10 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (rbacchus228 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:34:10 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] At Long Last,
	The Nabs Business Meeting From Convention Is Here
In-Reply-To: <53CA8FE8.4030308@gmail.com>
References: <53CA8FE8.4030308@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0F2EB805-CCDB-43E8-A68C-2275809AA048@gmail.com>

Hi David thans very much for this recording. i can't wait to hear what took place at this year's nabs meeting. I'll listen to this recording next week on Monday when I don't have class. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 19, 2014, at 11:34 AM, David Dunphy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi All!
> At long last, here's the nabs convention business meeting from this year's convention. It includes some elction coveragge through the election of the secretary.
> I did what I could with the recording equipment I had, I hope you enjoy it. This is a direct link that will start downloading the file for you.
> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/u78c5e
> 
> Enjoy, and thanks to Nabs for another great meeting and convention.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
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From marissat789 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 19 19:26:09 2014
From: marissat789 at gmail.com (Marissa Tejeda)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 12:26:09 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Subscribing?
Message-ID: <53cac664.6d45440a.13f5.ffff83a9@mx.google.com>

My friend wants to subscribe to this list, but I forgot how.  Can 
someone please remind me?


From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 19 19:31:51 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:31:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Subscribing?
Message-ID: <53cac7b3.c394ec0a.6e93.49d9@mx.google.com>

Go to the nfb web site.  Click on the link that says members.  
>From there click the link that says discussion groups.  Cleack 
the link that says nfb discussion groups.  Go to the join or drop 
Nfb net mailing lists link.  Scroll down until you find the link 
for the Nabs list.  Fill out the form with the subscription info 
and click subscribe.  Reply to the confirmation email that you 
will receive.  After this you will receive a welceme massage 
explaining how to post to this list.


From lilliepennington at fuse.net  Sat Jul 19 20:26:49 2014
From: lilliepennington at fuse.net (Lillie Pennington)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 16:26:49 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Subscribing?
In-Reply-To: <53cac7b3.c394ec0a.6e93.49d9@mx.google.com>
References: <53cac7b3.c394ec0a.6e93.49d9@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <46BA3B5E-AADC-44B1-A86D-FC9F5331AEEA@fuse.net>

You can skip about five steps by going to
www.nfbnet.org
Clicking add or drop lists, finding nabs and filling out the form.
HTH 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 19, 2014, at 3:31 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Go to the nfb web site.  Click on the link that says members.  From there click the link that says discussion groups.  Cleack the link that says nfb discussion groups.  Go to the join or drop Nfb net mailing lists link.  Scroll down until you find the link for the Nabs list.  Fill out the form with the subscription info and click subscribe.  Reply to the confirmation email that you will receive.  After this you will receive a welceme massage explaining how to post to this list.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/lilliepennington%40fuse.net


From dandrews at visi.com  Sat Jul 19 21:13:14 2014
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 16:13:14 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Subscribing?
In-Reply-To: <46BA3B5E-AADC-44B1-A86D-FC9F5331AEEA@fuse.net>
References: <53cac7b3.c394ec0a.6e93.49d9@mx.google.com>
	<46BA3B5E-AADC-44B1-A86D-FC9F5331AEEA@fuse.net>
Message-ID: <auto-000161615315@mailfront4.g2host.com>

Even quicker, the direct link is:

http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org

Dave

At 03:26 PM 7/19/2014, you wrote:
>You can skip about five steps by going to
>www.nfbnet.org
>Clicking add or drop lists, finding nabs and filling out the form.
>HTH
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 19, 2014, at 3:31 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Go to the nfb web site.  Click on the link that says 
> members.  From there click the link that says discussion 
> groups.  Cleack the link that says nfb discussion groups.  Go to 
> the join or drop Nfb net mailing lists link.  Scroll down until you 
> find the link for the Nabs list.  Fill out the form with the 
> subscription info and click subscribe.  Reply to the confirmation 
> email that you will receive.  After this you will receive a welceme 
> massage explaining how to post to this list.

         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org



From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 19 22:32:15 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 18:32:15 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Subscribing?
In-Reply-To: <53cac664.6d45440a.13f5.ffff83a9@mx.google.com>
References: <53cac664.6d45440a.13f5.ffff83a9@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <7683CE07EC334DD0B497DACE38659954@Helga>

Hi Marissa! I just wanted to tell you that below is going to be the link in 
order for you to subscribe your friend! to the NABS list. It is exactly the 
exact link! in order to do so! Let me know if you have receive this message 
ok? Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless! :)
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

Phone: (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
-----Original Message----- 
From: Marissa Tejeda via nabs-l
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 3:26 PM
To: Nabsl
Subject: [nabs-l] Subscribing?

My friend wants to subscribe to this list, but I forgot how.  Can
someone please remind me?

_______________________________________________
nabs-l mailing list
nabs-l at nfbnet.org
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for 
nabs-l:
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From alexander.scott.kaiser at bluebottle.com  Sun Jul 20 01:57:04 2014
From: alexander.scott.kaiser at bluebottle.com (Mr. Alexander Scott Kaiser)
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:57:04 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] system access question
Message-ID: <102241AB8FFF4EFF827ABE534EB99C61@OwnerPC>

Hello my name is Alexander Kaiser. I am interested in purchasing system access mobile with a samnet subscription. Does anyone on this list use system access? How good is the screen reader’s compatibility with windows versions of aim, yahoo messeager, skype, facebook instant messager and microsoft access, microsoft word, microsoft outlook, open office, microsoft excel, and powerpoint, and internet explorer, thunderbird, and firefox? Please email me off list with a response. My email address is alexander.scott.kaiser at bluebottle.com. Please email me back as immediately as possible. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Mr. Alexander Scott Kaiser    

From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 20 16:46:17 2014
From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton)
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 12:46:17 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleSense On-Hand and Bluetooth Question
Message-ID: <CAFja7FZaiyhNf2gxj8r=W-3cLm2L89vtHb5-_G2-EGFFionwCw@mail.gmail.com>

-- 
Kaiti
Hi, NABSters,

Typically I'm a pretty tech-savvy person, but for the longest time I
haven't really tried to connect my BrailleSense On-Hand to my Iphone.
I tried it a while back, but didn't really understand how the terminal
for screenreader worked.  Now, I'm trying again and have some other
questions.  I'm having trouble finding the answers to my questions
online, so I'm hoping that someone on here might be able to be of
assistance.

In my last attempt a few days ago I made sure the Bluetooth was on and
both the IPhone and the BrailleSense could see each other.  I was able
to get them to successfully connect, but entering the code was a
little trying.  I entered 0000 on the IPhone, but no dialog for code
entry appeared on the BrailleSense.  So, the pairing was not
successful.  I kept trying and did manage to get the code entry to
show up on both devices, but when I entered the code on the
BrailleSense after entering it on the IPhone, it said "BrailleSense
On-Hand is not supported."  (For clarification, the IPhone said that.
Meanwhile, the BrailleSense completely froze and I had to reset it in
order to get it back to normal functioning.

A third time I tried, I thought that I had actually connected the
devices since no dialog saying that the BrailleSense was unsupported
or pairing was unsuccessful showed up on my phone.  I went into the
terminal for screenreader and selected Bluetooth as my connection
type.  "Terminal mode" appeared on the braille display, but I couldn't
do anything from there.  It was like the machine froze again, although
I couldn have also just not known what I was doing.  I tried going
into the help menu to figure it out, but could not access the help
menu because the machine was froze.  I figured that it was a
mechanical problem with the software more than a problem with me at
that point, and abandoned it.

I would like to use my BrailleSense with my IPhone if I could.  Since
I'm milking my 3 year old IPhone 4 for what it's worth (college
student budget probs), I realize that a combination of an older IPhone
model and newer IOS software installed on the phone might be a huge
part of the problem.  However, I also don't have Siri or dictation,
and the more I'm out and about without my computer the more I would
like to use my phone to send emails, check something on safari, or
access facebook and text messages even in situations when wifi is not
available.  Case in point, I was just on vacation and had very poor
wifi, but wanted to send a few emails to my state student division.
These emails were supposed to be very lengthy, so it would have been
really helpful if I could have typed them using my BrailleSense and a
Bluetooth connection so I could have still feasibly sent them out.
I'm not the most accurate typist using the on-screen keyboard, and
time was an issue I was trying to work around.  That aside, I would
love to be able to sync my devices between my IPhone, my BrailleSense,
and my computer for school purposes.  I am also involved in a
fraternity, and can't say how many times I've wanted to send an email
to specific members of the group about business on the go but did not
do so because all I had was my IPhone.

Any help would be appreciated.  I'd love to get with the times!  :)


From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 21 05:35:06 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 01:35:06 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Calling two people Simultaniously by Skype
Message-ID: <301A6B7B3A9A4EC3B6F5F78BE28F8B19@Helga>

    Hi all! How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, do you know the commands in how can I call two people at the same time by skype using JAWS? Just wondering! I will really appreciate it if you can help me with this! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much and God bless!  
P.S. By the way, I’m using JAWS 14 on my laptop computer! Thanks again!  
Helga Schreiber 

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research 

Phone: (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 21 14:04:49 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:04:49 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Address For Posting to Nfb of Florida mailing list
Message-ID: <53cd1e10.2917ec0a.397d.ffffb058@mx.google.com>

Hi everyone I would like some help with something.  Can I please 
have the address for posting to the Nfb of Florida mailing list? 
I joined the list this weekend and have forgotten the address for 
posting.


From jhud7789 at outlook.com  Mon Jul 21 19:13:10 2014
From: jhud7789 at outlook.com (Joeph Hudson)
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 14:13:10 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Calling two people Simultaniously by Skype
In-Reply-To: <301A6B7B3A9A4EC3B6F5F78BE28F8B19@Helga>
References: <301A6B7B3A9A4EC3B6F5F78BE28F8B19@Helga>
Message-ID: <BLU405-EAS355670F3EFF54D6E405D6C1CEF00@phx.gbl>

Hi Helga, see if the following helps you? If not give me a call. Go to your contacts within Skype, click on one of the contacts that you want to call in this group call. If the call button, then while that's ringing go back to your contacts, find the person that you want to add them to the call, hit the applications key. Big arrow down into you here and to group call button. Hope this helps and hope to speak to you soon.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2014, at 1:51 AM, "Helga via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>    Hi all! How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, do you know the commands in how can I call two people at the same time by skype using JAWS? Just wondering! I will really appreciate it if you can help me with this! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much and God bless!  
> P.S. By the way, I’m using JAWS 14 on my laptop computer! Thanks again!  
> Helga Schreiber 
> 
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
> Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research 
> 
> Phone: (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
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From internetradioentertainer at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 19:52:04 2014
From: internetradioentertainer at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:52:04 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] OT: Come To Broadway Laugh And More On A Cappellas
	Anonymous Tonight
Message-ID: <53D01264.1050908@gmail.com>

Hi All!
I first want to apologize for the technical problems that kept last 
week's show off the air.
Now we're back and so....
So what do you get when you cross a broadway song with a redneck 
interpretation of it?

What do you get when Peter Hollens and Nick Patera take on songs from 
the musical wicked?
What about a broadway medley from Vocalpoint?
Or what happens when Peter Hollens takes on Josh Groban?

Find all this out and more on A Cappellas Anonymous tonight, going from 
7 to 10 PM eastern tonight on The Bell.
You'll hear these songs, some other new a cappella songs, some cool 
comparrisons, and more.
As always, get in touch during the show via twitter at
crazyyetfun2014
Via Skype at
daviddunphyradio
or via telephone at
516 945 9165
and listen in at
http://the-bell.net/listen
I'll see you tonight!
 From David Dunphy

From alpineimagination at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 21:27:34 2014
From: alpineimagination at gmail.com (Vejas)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:27:34 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] airplane mode and braillenote
Message-ID: <53d028e9.aadd440a.0699.ffff8637@mx.google.com>



Hi all,
I will be travelling out of the country soon.  I will not be 
allowed to use cellular data while there because if you use it 
while out of the country it's super expensive.
I would like to be able to connect my phone with the 
braille-note.  Is it possible to do it in airplane mede? It seems 
to sometimes fake-connect, where it pretends it is connected but 
it reation isn't.  Is there any way to pair the braille-note and 
the phone without cellular data?
Thanks,
Vejas


From matt.dierckens at me.com  Wed Jul 23 21:29:39 2014
From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:29:39 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] airplane mode and braillenote
In-Reply-To: <53d028e9.aadd440a.0699.ffff8637@mx.google.com>
References: <53d028e9.aadd440a.0699.ffff8637@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <787DE32A-E279-426F-BCFD-69056D2A6EE6@me.com>

just turn off wifi and data, I think bluetooth will work on the plane.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 23, 2014, at 17:27, Vejas via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I will be travelling out of the country soon.  I will not be allowed to use cellular data while there because if you use it while out of the country it's super expensive.
> I would like to be able to connect my phone with the braille-note.  Is it possible to do it in airplane mede? It seems to sometimes fake-connect, where it pretends it is connected but it reation isn't.  Is there any way to pair the braille-note and the phone without cellular data?
> Thanks,
> Vejas
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From sweetpeareader at gmail.com  Wed Jul 23 21:40:37 2014
From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (Sophie Trist)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:40:37 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] airplane mode and braillenote
Message-ID: <53d02bf3.6757b60a.6af2.ffffa64b@mx.google.com>

Actually, turning airplane mode turns off bluetooth as well. What 
airplane mode does is it turns off all things on the iPhone that 
transmit a signal. Since bluetooth sends a signal from the phone
to the braillenote and vice versa, it is effected by airplane 
mode.
 ----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: Vejas <alpineimagination at gmail.com>,National Association of 
Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:29:39 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] airplane mode and braillenote

just turn off wifi and data, I think bluetooth will work on the 
plane.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover 
course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 23, 2014, at 17:27, Vejas via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> 
wrote:



 Hi all,
 I will be travelling out of the country soon.  I will not be 
allowed to use cellular data while there because if you use it 
while out of the country it's super expensive.
 I would like to be able to connect my phone with the 
braille-note.  Is it possible to do it in airplane mede? It seems 
to sometimes fake-connect, where it pretends it is connected but 
it reation isn't.  Is there any way to pair the braille-note and 
the phone without cellular data?
 Thanks,
 Vejas

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From gera1027 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 02:49:36 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 21:49:36 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Intro
Message-ID: <53D07440.4070804@gmail.com>

  HI guys
I've been off/on on here, so maybe some of you might remember me? For 
those who don't or are new, I'm Gerardo, kind of old nearly 37, but 
remember what it was like being a blind student, thus I hope to enrich 
from my experiences on here. I might not know how technology school 
loans are handled nowadays, or what kind of technology used in the 
classroom since i was a student in the 90s, but nevertheless I hope I 
can provide at least some grain of salt on here that's useful.

-- 
Enviado desde mi lap
Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!



From codeofdusk at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 05:00:38 2014
From: codeofdusk at gmail.com (Bill Dengler)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 01:00:38 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] airplane mode and braillenote
In-Reply-To: <53d02bf3.6757b60a.6af2.ffffa64b@mx.google.com>
References: <53d02bf3.6757b60a.6af2.ffffa64b@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <35DA3B66-A7C0-4E5A-A5B1-4508F26B1BB1@gmail.com>

No, just turn off cell data.
iOS : settings > celular > celular data > disable
Android (AOSP pre ICS) : settings > wireless and networks > mobile networks > uncheck data enabled
Android (AOSP ICS+) : settings > more > mobile networks uncheck data enabled
No experience with WP8.1.
Hope I helped.
Bill
> On Jul 23, 2014, at 5:40 PM, Sophie Trist via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Actually, turning airplane mode turns off bluetooth as well. What airplane mode does is it turns off all things on the iPhone that transmit a signal. Since bluetooth sends a signal from the phone
> to the braillenote and vice versa, it is effected by airplane mode.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: Vejas <alpineimagination at gmail.com>,National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:29:39 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] airplane mode and braillenote
> 
> just turn off wifi and data, I think bluetooth will work on the plane.
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
> 
> On Jul 23, 2014, at 17:27, Vejas via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> I will be travelling out of the country soon.  I will not be allowed to use cellular data while there because if you use it while out of the country it's super expensive.
> I would like to be able to connect my phone with the braille-note.  Is it possible to do it in airplane mede? It seems to sometimes fake-connect, where it pretends it is connected but it reation isn't.  Is there any way to pair the braille-note and the phone without cellular data?
> Thanks,
> Vejas
> 
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From smwhalenpsp at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 06:38:17 2014
From: smwhalenpsp at gmail.com (Sean Whalen)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 02:38:17 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] So, What Do You Think?
Message-ID: <3a0701cfa709$db6976e0$923c64a0$@gmail.com>

Good evening NABS!

 

In case anybody did not receive this message directly I am sharing it here
on the list.

 

Thanks,

 

Sean

 

NABS is excited to kick off another year of working in the National
Federation of the Blind to ensure that blind students have the skills and
education we need to live the lives we want. But we need your help! No,
wait... no need to hide your wallet. It's not your money we're after. We
only need 10 minutes of your time!

 

As we plan our programs and produce our policies for the upcoming year, we
want to know what you think. The NABS Board is here to serve you, the
members. And to ensure that we do that as best we can, we need to know what
we are doing right and what we could be doing better. We also need to know
what new and exciting things we should be working on and what you want NABS
to be in the future. We know you have great ideas and valuable feedback, so
let us hear it! Simply fill out a quick survey
<http://www.nabslink.org/drupal/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=9
7&qid=14618>  that we have put together.

 

Please take the quick moment to provide us with your thoughts. We can't
guarantee that this will be the most exciting thing you do today, but we can
promise that the entire board will read your responses and use your input to
guide our conversations about the upcoming year. Additionally, we will hold
an open membership conference call in August to engage in further discussion
about the prominent themes that jump out of this survey. Hmmmm... I take it
back. Maybe that is exciting!

 

This survey will only remain open for a limited time, so don't delay! Just
click below, and let us know! http://nabslink.org/member-survey

 

Thank you very much for your time and consideration.

 

Sincerely,

 

Sean Whalen
President, National Association of Blind Students
(608) 332-4147
nabs.president at gmail.com <mailto:nabs.president at gmail.com>  

@NABSLink
<http://www.nabslink.org/drupal/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=9
8&qid=14618>  

www.nabslink.org
<http://www.nabslink.org/drupal/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=9
9&qid=14618>  

 


From smwhalenpsp at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 07:43:20 2014
From: smwhalenpsp at gmail.com (Sean Whalen)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 03:43:20 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Membership Survey Broken Link
Message-ID: <3a3801cfa712$f1682d20$d4388760$@gmail.com>

Hi all,

 

We are aware of the problem with the link to the survey that we distributed
earlier. We are working on fixing the issue and will resend the message with
a fixed link as soon as possible. Sorry for any inconvenience and thank you
for your patience.

 

Take care,

 

Sean


From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 08:00:18 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 04:00:18 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter Our
	Disability!
Message-ID: <06CF8BDD-26ED-4D4A-A4B8-9197474649DD@gmail.com>

Hi everyone! How are you all?  I just wanted to tell you that as you all know, one of my goals is to become a lawyer in order to advocate for the disabled, the blind, and people with multiples disabilities!,  but at the same time I got involved with a serious company, where   I'm doing and forming my own Networking business! The reason I'm doing this business is because it open me a door of opportunities in order for me to fulfill my dreams, and also to help others so that they can fulfill their dreams as well!  In fact, this is a business opportunity that I would like you to  listen to because it will give you a job opportunity, where you can be incharge of your own business; instead, of working for someone! Furthermore, I think this business opportunity is for everyone, but specially for the blind, visually impaired, and people with multiple disabilities! And wehn we do this business, we  are not going to do it alone, like traditional businesses; instead, we are going to have the support of a team, called the International Networkers Team. And just to let you know, this business is not just local, is International! I'm the first blind person in this serious company where I'm doing this business! and if I'm blind and I'm doing it, all of us can do it as well! If you are interested to hear what  it is all about, today at 2 PM, I'm having a conference call meeting where one of my team members is going to explain all about this business opportunity since she is an expert on it, and since she has been doing this for a long time due to the fact that I just join in a couple weeks ago! If you are interested, let me know off list  because I don't want to clutter the list ok? My contact information is below in my email signature. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for listening to me, and God blesss! :) 
P.S. By the way, sorry for posting an offtopic message for the list! Thanks again. I really would like to hear your opinion about it! Thanks again. 

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

From pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com  Thu Jul 24 15:48:31 2014
From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com (Peter Donahue)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:48:31 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
	OurDisability!
References: <06CF8BDD-26ED-4D4A-A4B8-9197474649DD@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0517D79E04314880B03A71F1FBB5F8FD@peted2AB964BD1>

Good morning Helga and everyone,

    We need more blind people to become entrepreneurs rather than simply 
finding a job. We're rather disappointed with the attitude of both consumer 
organizations of the blind and of the blind in general concerning network 
business opportunities. And this despite that back in the 1970s a blind 
gentleman from Seattle Washington along with his wife became very successful 
in a networking business. He did this without all of the bells and whistles 
we now have i.e. smartphones, Internet portals where one can handle business 
transactions, direct fulfillment of products, services, and training 
materials, the list goes on.

    Some have tried to explain his success away by the fact that his wife 
was sighted. This is absolute rubbish! For every blind person with a sighted 
spouse that succeed in a business of one kind or other there are 10 who 
won't make the effort to try. With unemployment among the blind at 70% 
should we only be job seekers or should we be job and opportunity creators?

    Our networking business has been around for over 50 years. Longevity is 
a factor to consider whenever you explore one of these opportunities. 
Another is if an association that represents the participants has been 
established to insure that the interests of the independent business 
owner/distributor are represented. These two criteria will go a long way to 
insure that you get involved with a tried and true opportunity with a proven 
track record and will help you avoid the bad guys.

    Whenever we've attended major business conferences we've seen large 
groups of business owners representing various backgrounds, races and 
nations. One group has a very large number of East Indian associates, 
another has a large group of Hispanic associates. There are groups with 
large numbers of Asian business owners as well. These groups consist of 
entrepreneurs in just about every profession you could imagine everything 
from factory workers to movie stars. With so many nationallities and 
professions represented in network marketing in this day and age there is no 
excuse for there not to be large numbers of blind persons and others with 
disabilities earning big money and succeeding beyond their imaginations and 
sharing the wealth with other blind and disabled individuals. This is just 
as valid an answer to combating unemployment among the blind as is going to 
school for umpteen years and getting that dream job that may materialize in 
one or ten years given society's attitude towards the abilities of the 
blind. I would also hope that consumer organizations of the blind such as 
the NFB will encourage blind individuals to seriously consider business 
ownership including participation in a networking opportunity as a viable 
alternative to getting a job. I ask you again after you or your state VR 
Agency has invested so much in to your education will you simply become a 
job seeker or will you become ajob creator for yourself and others including 
other blind people?

Peter Donahue



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:00 AM
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter 
OurDisability!


> Hi everyone! How are you all?  I just wanted to tell you that as you all 
> know, one of my goals is to become a lawyer in order to advocate for the 
> disabled, the blind, and people with multiples disabilities!,  but at the 
> same time I got involved with a serious company, where   I'm doing and 
> forming my own Networking business! The reason I'm doing this business is 
> because it open me a door of opportunities in order for me to fulfill my 
> dreams, and also to help others so that they can fulfill their dreams as 
> well!  In fact, this is a business opportunity that I would like you to 
> listen to because it will give you a job opportunity, where you can be 
> incharge of your own business; instead, of working for someone! 
> Furthermore, I think this business opportunity is for everyone, but 
> specially for the blind, visually impaired, and people with multiple 
> disabilities! And wehn we do this business, we  are not going to do it 
> alone, like traditional businesses; instead, we are going to have the 
> support of a team, called the International Networkers Team. And just to 
> let you know, this business is not just local, is International! I'm the 
> first blind person in this serious company where I'm doing this business! 
> and if I'm blind and I'm doing it, all of us can do it as well! If you are 
> interested to hear what  it is all about, today at 2 PM, I'm having a 
> conference call meeting where one of my team members is going to explain 
> all about this business opportunity since she is an expert on it, and 
> since she has been doing this for a long time due to the fact that I just 
> join in a couple weeks ago! If you are interested, let me know off list 
> because I don't want to clutter the list ok? My contact information is 
> below in my email signature. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much 
> for listening to me, and God blesss! :)
> P.S. By the way, sorry for posting an offtopic message for the list! 
> Thanks again. I really would like to hear your opinion about it! Thanks 
> again.
>
> Helga Schreiber
>
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
> Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
> Sent from my iPhone
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From gera1027 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 15:57:03 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 10:57:03 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
 OurDisability!
In-Reply-To: <0517D79E04314880B03A71F1FBB5F8FD@peted2AB964BD1>
References: <06CF8BDD-26ED-4D4A-A4B8-9197474649DD@gmail.com>
	<0517D79E04314880B03A71F1FBB5F8FD@peted2AB964BD1>
Message-ID: <53D12CCF.2000407@gmail.com>

  when you guys talk about networking, do you mean signing up with 
companies like the one that sells Asea, or Chemiset Products, thus 
working from home?

El 24/07/2014 10:48 a.m., Peter Donahue via nabs-l escribió:
> Good morning Helga and everyone,
>
>    We need more blind people to become entrepreneurs rather than 
> simply finding a job. We're rather disappointed with the attitude of 
> both consumer organizations of the blind and of the blind in general 
> concerning network business opportunities. And this despite that back 
> in the 1970s a blind gentleman from Seattle Washington along with his 
> wife became very successful in a networking business. He did this 
> without all of the bells and whistles we now have i.e. smartphones, 
> Internet portals where one can handle business transactions, direct 
> fulfillment of products, services, and training materials, the list 
> goes on.
>
>    Some have tried to explain his success away by the fact that his 
> wife was sighted. This is absolute rubbish! For every blind person 
> with a sighted spouse that succeed in a business of one kind or other 
> there are 10 who won't make the effort to try. With unemployment among 
> the blind at 70% should we only be job seekers or should we be job and 
> opportunity creators?
>
>    Our networking business has been around for over 50 years. 
> Longevity is a factor to consider whenever you explore one of these 
> opportunities. Another is if an association that represents the 
> participants has been established to insure that the interests of the 
> independent business owner/distributor are represented. These two 
> criteria will go a long way to insure that you get involved with a 
> tried and true opportunity with a proven track record and will help 
> you avoid the bad guys.
>
>    Whenever we've attended major business conferences we've seen large 
> groups of business owners representing various backgrounds, races and 
> nations. One group has a very large number of East Indian associates, 
> another has a large group of Hispanic associates. There are groups 
> with large numbers of Asian business owners as well. These groups 
> consist of entrepreneurs in just about every profession you could 
> imagine everything from factory workers to movie stars. With so many 
> nationallities and professions represented in network marketing in 
> this day and age there is no excuse for there not to be large numbers 
> of blind persons and others with disabilities earning big money and 
> succeeding beyond their imaginations and sharing the wealth with other 
> blind and disabled individuals. This is just as valid an answer to 
> combating unemployment among the blind as is going to school for 
> umpteen years and getting that dream job that may materialize in one 
> or ten years given society's attitude towards the abilities of the 
> blind. I would also hope that consumer organizations of the blind such 
> as the NFB will encourage blind individuals to seriously consider 
> business ownership including participation in a networking opportunity 
> as a viable alternative to getting a job. I ask you again after you or 
> your state VR Agency has invested so much in to your education will 
> you simply become a job seeker or will you become ajob creator for 
> yourself and others including other blind people?
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:00 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter 
> OurDisability!
>
>
>> Hi everyone! How are you all?  I just wanted to tell you that as you 
>> all know, one of my goals is to become a lawyer in order to advocate 
>> for the disabled, the blind, and people with multiples 
>> disabilities!,  but at the same time I got involved with a serious 
>> company, where   I'm doing and forming my own Networking business! 
>> The reason I'm doing this business is because it open me a door of 
>> opportunities in order for me to fulfill my dreams, and also to help 
>> others so that they can fulfill their dreams as well!  In fact, this 
>> is a business opportunity that I would like you to listen to because 
>> it will give you a job opportunity, where you can be incharge of your 
>> own business; instead, of working for someone! Furthermore, I think 
>> this business opportunity is for everyone, but specially for the 
>> blind, visually impaired, and people with multiple disabilities! And 
>> wehn we do this business, we  are not going to do it alone, like 
>> traditional businesses; instead, we are going to have the support of 
>> a team, called the International Networkers Team. And just to let you 
>> know, this business is not just local, is International! I'm the 
>> first blind person in this serious company where I'm doing this 
>> business! and if I'm blind and I'm doing it, all of us can do it as 
>> well! If you are interested to hear what  it is all about, today at 2 
>> PM, I'm having a conference call meeting where one of my team members 
>> is going to explain all about this business opportunity since she is 
>> an expert on it, and since she has been doing this for a long time 
>> due to the fact that I just join in a couple weeks ago! If you are 
>> interested, let me know off list because I don't want to clutter the 
>> list ok? My contact information is below in my email signature. Hope 
>> to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for listening to me, and God 
>> blesss! :)
>> P.S. By the way, sorry for posting an offtopic message for the list! 
>> Thanks again. I really would like to hear your opinion about it! 
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Helga Schreiber
>>
>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
>> Blind Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 
>> 3:16
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 16:13:39 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:13:39 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
	OurDisability!
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Hi Peter, How are you? I just wanted to tell you that I think the same way 
that you do! Saying that, are you interested in knowing what it is all about 
by attending the conference call meeting today at 2 PM Eastern? If you are 
interested,the Conference Call  Number is 323-920-0091 and the Access Code 
or pass code is 067 5255 . If you want you can also share it to others as 
well! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!


Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

Phone: (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
-----Original Message----- 
From: Peter Donahue
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:48 AM
To: Helga Schreiber ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter 
OurDisability!

Good morning Helga and everyone,

    We need more blind people to become entrepreneurs rather than simply
finding a job. We're rather disappointed with the attitude of both consumer
organizations of the blind and of the blind in general concerning network
business opportunities. And this despite that back in the 1970s a blind
gentleman from Seattle Washington along with his wife became very successful
in a networking business. He did this without all of the bells and whistles
we now have i.e. smartphones, Internet portals where one can handle business
transactions, direct fulfillment of products, services, and training
materials, the list goes on.

    Some have tried to explain his success away by the fact that his wife
was sighted. This is absolute rubbish! For every blind person with a sighted
spouse that succeed in a business of one kind or other there are 10 who
won't make the effort to try. With unemployment among the blind at 70%
should we only be job seekers or should we be job and opportunity creators?

    Our networking business has been around for over 50 years. Longevity is
a factor to consider whenever you explore one of these opportunities.
Another is if an association that represents the participants has been
established to insure that the interests of the independent business
owner/distributor are represented. These two criteria will go a long way to
insure that you get involved with a tried and true opportunity with a proven
track record and will help you avoid the bad guys.

    Whenever we've attended major business conferences we've seen large
groups of business owners representing various backgrounds, races and
nations. One group has a very large number of East Indian associates,
another has a large group of Hispanic associates. There are groups with
large numbers of Asian business owners as well. These groups consist of
entrepreneurs in just about every profession you could imagine everything
from factory workers to movie stars. With so many nationallities and
professions represented in network marketing in this day and age there is no
excuse for there not to be large numbers of blind persons and others with
disabilities earning big money and succeeding beyond their imaginations and
sharing the wealth with other blind and disabled individuals. This is just
as valid an answer to combating unemployment among the blind as is going to
school for umpteen years and getting that dream job that may materialize in
one or ten years given society's attitude towards the abilities of the
blind. I would also hope that consumer organizations of the blind such as
the NFB will encourage blind individuals to seriously consider business
ownership including participation in a networking opportunity as a viable
alternative to getting a job. I ask you again after you or your state VR
Agency has invested so much in to your education will you simply become a
job seeker or will you become ajob creator for yourself and others including
other blind people?

Peter Donahue



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:00 AM
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
OurDisability!


> Hi everyone! How are you all?  I just wanted to tell you that as you all 
> know, one of my goals is to become a lawyer in order to advocate for the 
> disabled, the blind, and people with multiples disabilities!,  but at the 
> same time I got involved with a serious company, where   I'm doing and 
> forming my own Networking business! The reason I'm doing this business is 
> because it open me a door of opportunities in order for me to fulfill my 
> dreams, and also to help others so that they can fulfill their dreams as 
> well!  In fact, this is a business opportunity that I would like you to 
> listen to because it will give you a job opportunity, where you can be 
> incharge of your own business; instead, of working for someone! 
> Furthermore, I think this business opportunity is for everyone, but 
> specially for the blind, visually impaired, and people with multiple 
> disabilities! And wehn we do this business, we  are not going to do it 
> alone, like traditional businesses; instead, we are going to have the 
> support of a team, called the International Networkers Team. And just to 
> let you know, this business is not just local, is International! I'm the 
> first blind person in this serious company where I'm doing this business! 
> and if I'm blind and I'm doing it, all of us can do it as well! If you are 
> interested to hear what  it is all about, today at 2 PM, I'm having a 
> conference call meeting where one of my team members is going to explain 
> all about this business opportunity since she is an expert on it, and 
> since she has been doing this for a long time due to the fact that I just 
> join in a couple weeks ago! If you are interested, let me know off list 
> because I don't want to clutter the list ok? My contact information is 
> below in my email signature. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much 
> for listening to me, and God blesss! :)
> P.S. By the way, sorry for posting an offtopic message for the list! 
> Thanks again. I really would like to hear your opinion about it! Thanks 
> again.
>
> Helga Schreiber
>
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
> Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
> nabs-l mailing list
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 16:38:24 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:38:24 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
	OurDisability!
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	<53D12CCF.2000407@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DCD3B0F003FC401C8E5657869EF7E60C@Helga>

Hi Gerardo, how are you? I just wanted to tell you that Networking business 
is something that you can work from home and in your own time! It is like 
having a part time job! For instance, for my Networking business, I'm not 
selling anything, the only thing that I'm doing is recommending a product 
that I consume! and that is good for my health! Today at 2 PM Eastern, I'm 
having a conference call meeting where we are going to explain everything 
all about it! If you are interested, the Conference Call Numberis 
323-920-0091 and the Access Code or pass code is 067 5255. Hope to hear 
fromyou soon in the call. And also, I just wanted to ask you, where do you 
exactly live, and what is your time zone over there? Just wondering! I 
actually live in Florida. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

Phone: (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
-----Original Message----- 
From: Gerardo Corripio via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:57 AM
To: Peter Donahue ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter 
OurDisability!

  when you guys talk about networking, do you mean signing up with
companies like the one that sells Asea, or Chemiset Products, thus
working from home?

El 24/07/2014 10:48 a.m., Peter Donahue via nabs-l escribió:
> Good morning Helga and everyone,
>
>    We need more blind people to become entrepreneurs rather than simply 
> finding a job. We're rather disappointed with the attitude of both 
> consumer organizations of the blind and of the blind in general concerning 
> network business opportunities. And this despite that back in the 1970s a 
> blind gentleman from Seattle Washington along with his wife became very 
> successful in a networking business. He did this without all of the bells 
> and whistles we now have i.e. smartphones, Internet portals where one can 
> handle business transactions, direct fulfillment of products, services, 
> and training materials, the list goes on.
>
>    Some have tried to explain his success away by the fact that his wife 
> was sighted. This is absolute rubbish! For every blind person with a 
> sighted spouse that succeed in a business of one kind or other there are 
> 10 who won't make the effort to try. With unemployment among the blind at 
> 70% should we only be job seekers or should we be job and opportunity 
> creators?
>
>    Our networking business has been around for over 50 years. Longevity is 
> a factor to consider whenever you explore one of these opportunities. 
> Another is if an association that represents the participants has been 
> established to insure that the interests of the independent business 
> owner/distributor are represented. These two criteria will go a long way 
> to insure that you get involved with a tried and true opportunity with a 
> proven track record and will help you avoid the bad guys.
>
>    Whenever we've attended major business conferences we've seen large 
> groups of business owners representing various backgrounds, races and 
> nations. One group has a very large number of East Indian associates, 
> another has a large group of Hispanic associates. There are groups with 
> large numbers of Asian business owners as well. These groups consist of 
> entrepreneurs in just about every profession you could imagine everything 
> from factory workers to movie stars. With so many nationallities and 
> professions represented in network marketing in this day and age there is 
> no excuse for there not to be large numbers of blind persons and others 
> with disabilities earning big money and succeeding beyond their 
> imaginations and sharing the wealth with other blind and disabled 
> individuals. This is just as valid an answer to combating unemployment 
> among the blind as is going to school for umpteen years and getting that 
> dream job that may materialize in one or ten years given society's 
> attitude towards the abilities of the blind. I would also hope that 
> consumer organizations of the blind such as the NFB will encourage blind 
> individuals to seriously consider business ownership including 
> participation in a networking opportunity as a viable alternative to 
> getting a job. I ask you again after you or your state VR Agency has 
> invested so much in to your education will you simply become a job seeker 
> or will you become ajob creator for yourself and others including other 
> blind people?
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" 
> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:00 AM
> Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter 
> OurDisability!
>
>
>> Hi everyone! How are you all?  I just wanted to tell you that as you all 
>> know, one of my goals is to become a lawyer in order to advocate for the 
>> disabled, the blind, and people with multiples disabilities!,  but at the 
>> same time I got involved with a serious company, where   I'm doing and 
>> forming my own Networking business! The reason I'm doing this business is 
>> because it open me a door of opportunities in order for me to fulfill my 
>> dreams, and also to help others so that they can fulfill their dreams as 
>> well!  In fact, this is a business opportunity that I would like you to 
>> listen to because it will give you a job opportunity, where you can be 
>> incharge of your own business; instead, of working for someone! 
>> Furthermore, I think this business opportunity is for everyone, but 
>> specially for the blind, visually impaired, and people with multiple 
>> disabilities! And wehn we do this business, we  are not going to do it 
>> alone, like traditional businesses; instead, we are going to have the 
>> support of a team, called the International Networkers Team. And just to 
>> let you know, this business is not just local, is International! I'm the 
>> first blind person in this serious company where I'm doing this business! 
>> and if I'm blind and I'm doing it, all of us can do it as well! If you 
>> are interested to hear what  it is all about, today at 2 PM, I'm having a 
>> conference call meeting where one of my team members is going to explain 
>> all about this business opportunity since she is an expert on it, and 
>> since she has been doing this for a long time due to the fact that I just 
>> join in a couple weeks ago! If you are interested, let me know off list 
>> because I don't want to clutter the list ok? My contact information is 
>> below in my email signature. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much 
>> for listening to me, and God blesss! :)
>> P.S. By the way, sorry for posting an offtopic message for the list! 
>> Thanks again. I really would like to hear your opinion about it! Thanks 
>> again.
>>
>> Helga Schreiber
>>
>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
>> Blind Students.
>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 
>> 3:16
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
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From sweetpeareader at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 16:52:25 2014
From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (Sophie Trist)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:52:25 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] voting
Message-ID: <53d139e8.68f7b60a.3912.0fd8@mx.google.com>

NABS friends,

I'm turning eighteen this fall, just in time to vote in my 
state's senatorial elections. And I was wondering, how do blind 
people vote? D we enter a voting booth with a friend or pole 
worker and just tell them what buttons to push? I might be making 
this up, but I might have heard something once about how blind 
people can get absentee ballots sent to them in braille. Thanks 
in advance for your answers!

Yours sincerely,
Sophie


From lhnews at lighthouse-sf.org  Thu Jul 24 17:06:15 2014
From: lhnews at lighthouse-sf.org (LightHouse for the Blind and Visually Impaired)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:06:15 +0000
Subject: [nabs-l] Last Chance to Sign Up For Blind Music Academy August 3 to
	9
Message-ID: <2B462D39CA57B147A4C4B61F9FC1959D4FD14F@email.rrlh-sf.local>

Take it to the next level at intensive Blind Music Academy at Enchanted Hills.



Enchanted Hills Camp in Napa is offering the LightHouse's first ever Music Academy for blind and visually impaired musicians. The Academy is open to blind musicians ages 14 to 25. The session is led by Dancing Dots founder Bill McCann.



If you are a serious blind musician (or if you are a teacher of the visually impaired and know a young person who is thinking of entering the profession), this academy will introduce new ways to write down your own music, read the works of others, and gain the capacity necessary to compete for and win employment in the music field.



Session runs from August 3 through August 9, 2014.

To sign up you must contact Taccarra Burrell at 415-694-7318 or tburrell at lighthouse-sf.org<mailto:tburrell at lighthouse-sf.org> no later than Monday, July 28.



Read more about our Music Academy at http://bit.ly/musicacademyatehc.


From codeofdusk at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 17:11:59 2014
From: codeofdusk at gmail.com (Bill Dengler)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:11:59 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
	OurDisability!
In-Reply-To: <DCD3B0F003FC401C8E5657869EF7E60C@Helga>
References: <06CF8BDD-26ED-4D4A-A4B8-9197474649DD@gmail.com>
	<0517D79E04314880B03A71F1FBB5F8FD@peted2AB964BD1>
	<53D12CCF.2000407@gmail.com>
	<DCD3B0F003FC401C8E5657869EF7E60C@Helga>
Message-ID: <B822F1A4-0B23-42E0-B8A7-8DED43A4948A@gmail.com>

pyramid scheme?

Bill
> On Jul 24, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Helga via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gerardo, how are you? I just wanted to tell you that Networking business is something that you can work from home and in your own time! It is like having a part time job! For instance, for my Networking business, I'm not selling anything, the only thing that I'm doing is recommending a product that I consume! and that is good for my health! Today at 2 PM Eastern, I'm having a conference call meeting where we are going to explain everything all about it! If you are interested, the Conference Call Numberis 323-920-0091 and the Access Code or pass code is 067 5255. Hope to hear fromyou soon in the call. And also, I just wanted to ask you, where do you exactly live, and what is your time zone over there? Just wondering! I actually live in Florida. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!
> 
> 
> 
> Helga Schreiber
> 
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students
> Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research
> 
> Phone: (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
> -----Original Message----- From: Gerardo Corripio via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:57 AM
> To: Peter Donahue ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter OurDisability!
> 
> when you guys talk about networking, do you mean signing up with
> companies like the one that sells Asea, or Chemiset Products, thus
> working from home?
> 
> El 24/07/2014 10:48 a.m., Peter Donahue via nabs-l escribió:
>> Good morning Helga and everyone,
>> 
>>   We need more blind people to become entrepreneurs rather than simply finding a job. We're rather disappointed with the attitude of both consumer organizations of the blind and of the blind in general concerning network business opportunities. And this despite that back in the 1970s a blind gentleman from Seattle Washington along with his wife became very successful in a networking business. He did this without all of the bells and whistles we now have i.e. smartphones, Internet portals where one can handle business transactions, direct fulfillment of products, services, and training materials, the list goes on.
>> 
>>   Some have tried to explain his success away by the fact that his wife was sighted. This is absolute rubbish! For every blind person with a sighted spouse that succeed in a business of one kind or other there are 10 who won't make the effort to try. With unemployment among the blind at 70% should we only be job seekers or should we be job and opportunity creators?
>> 
>>   Our networking business has been around for over 50 years. Longevity is a factor to consider whenever you explore one of these opportunities. Another is if an association that represents the participants has been established to insure that the interests of the independent business owner/distributor are represented. These two criteria will go a long way to insure that you get involved with a tried and true opportunity with a proven track record and will help you avoid the bad guys.
>> 
>>   Whenever we've attended major business conferences we've seen large groups of business owners representing various backgrounds, races and nations. One group has a very large number of East Indian associates, another has a large group of Hispanic associates. There are groups with large numbers of Asian business owners as well. These groups consist of entrepreneurs in just about every profession you could imagine everything from factory workers to movie stars. With so many nationallities and professions represented in network marketing in this day and age there is no excuse for there not to be large numbers of blind persons and others with disabilities earning big money and succeeding beyond their imaginations and sharing the wealth with other blind and disabled individuals. This is just as valid an answer to combating unemployment among the blind as is going to school for umpteen years and getting that dream job that may materialize in one or ten years given society's attitude towards the abilities of the blind. I would also hope that consumer organizations of the blind such as the NFB will encourage blind individuals to seriously consider business ownership including participation in a networking opportunity as a viable alternative to getting a job. I ask you again after you or your state VR Agency has invested so much in to your education will you simply become a job seeker or will you become ajob creator for yourself and others including other blind people?
>> 
>> Peter Donahue
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:00 AM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter OurDisability!
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi everyone! How are you all?  I just wanted to tell you that as you all know, one of my goals is to become a lawyer in order to advocate for the disabled, the blind, and people with multiples disabilities!,  but at the same time I got involved with a serious company, where   I'm doing and forming my own Networking business! The reason I'm doing this business is because it open me a door of opportunities in order for me to fulfill my dreams, and also to help others so that they can fulfill their dreams as well!  In fact, this is a business opportunity that I would like you to listen to because it will give you a job opportunity, where you can be incharge of your own business; instead, of working for someone! Furthermore, I think this business opportunity is for everyone, but specially for the blind, visually impaired, and people with multiple disabilities! And wehn we do this business, we  are not going to do it alone, like traditional businesses; instead, we are going to have the support of a team, called the International Networkers Team. And just to let you know, this business is not just local, is International! I'm the first blind person in this serious company where I'm doing this business! and if I'm blind and I'm doing it, all of us can do it as well! If you are interested to hear what  it is all about, today at 2 PM, I'm having a conference call meeting where one of my team members is going to explain all about this business opportunity since she is an expert on it, and since she has been doing this for a long time due to the fact that I just join in a couple weeks ago! If you are interested, let me know off list because I don't want to clutter the list ok? My contact information is below in my email signature. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much for listening to me, and God blesss! :)
>>> P.S. By the way, sorry for posting an offtopic message for the list! Thanks again. I really would like to hear your opinion about it! Thanks again.
>>> 
>>> Helga Schreiber
>>> 
>>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
>>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>>> 
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
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From smwhalenpsp at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 17:26:28 2014
From: smwhalenpsp at gmail.com (Sean Whalen)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:26:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] voting
In-Reply-To: <53d139e8.68f7b60a.3912.0fd8@mx.google.com>
References: <53d139e8.68f7b60a.3912.0fd8@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <020901cfa764$6813a5c0$383af140$@gmail.com>

Sophie,

Thanks to the Help America Vote Act, since 2006 each polling place in
America is legally required to have at least one machine that a blind person
can use to cast an independent and private ballot. There are several
different machines, but most I have seen are some variation of a touch
screen. You plug in headphones and the machine gives you instructions in
synthesized speech on the specifics of how it functions. Warning: some
precincts will not have the accessible machine set up and will not want to
deal with setting it up. I have had a whole range of experiences, from
walking in and voting at an accessible machine with no problem to having
workers trying really hard to convince me that I should just let somebody
fill out a ballot for me because the accessible machine is not set up/too
slow and confusing/not worth the trouble etc. However, it is your right. It
is worth noting also that very often the accessible machine is the same
machine that everybody else uses, just functioning a bit differently (think
iPhone with Voiceover on vs. Voiceover off). As a vast generalization, you
will have better luck with accessible voting in bigger cities and towns than
in rural areas. In many rural areas paper ballots are still the norm and the
accessible machine is demanded infrequently. In most urban areas they have
moved to electronic voting for all, which makes it easier. Again, huge
generalization, but worth noting. Finally, the NFB usually has a hotline
number that blind folks can call on election day if we are having trouble
exercising our right to an independent and secret ballot.

Hope this is useful.

Take care,

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie Trist
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:52 PM
To: nabs
Subject: [nabs-l] voting

NABS friends,

I'm turning eighteen this fall, just in time to vote in my state's
senatorial elections. And I was wondering, how do blind people vote? D we
enter a voting booth with a friend or pole worker and just tell them what
buttons to push? I might be making this up, but I might have heard something
once about how blind people can get absentee ballots sent to them in
braille. Thanks in advance for your answers!

Yours sincerely,
Sophie

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From smwhalenpsp at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 17:27:17 2014
From: smwhalenpsp at gmail.com (Sean Whalen)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:27:17 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No
	Matter	OurDisability!
In-Reply-To: <DCD3B0F003FC401C8E5657869EF7E60C@Helga>
References: <06CF8BDD-26ED-4D4A-A4B8-9197474649DD@gmail.com><0517D79E04314880B03A71F1FBB5F8FD@peted2AB964BD1>	<53D12CCF.2000407@gmail.com>
	<DCD3B0F003FC401C8E5657869EF7E60C@Helga>
Message-ID: <020a01cfa764$85224ea0$8f66ebe0$@gmail.com>

Hi all,

Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home
businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not it. We
are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's please avoid
posting solicitations and promotions like this.

Thanks,

Sean





From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 17:31:13 2014
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:31:13 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No
	Matter	OurDisability!
In-Reply-To: <B822F1A4-0B23-42E0-B8A7-8DED43A4948A@gmail.com>
References: <06CF8BDD-26ED-4D4A-A4B8-9197474649DD@gmail.com>	<0517D79E04314880B03A71F1FBB5F8FD@peted2AB964BD1>	<53D12CCF.2000407@gmail.com>	<DCD3B0F003FC401C8E5657869EF7E60C@Helga>
	<B822F1A4-0B23-42E0-B8A7-8DED43A4948A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010e01cfa765$119fe220$34dfa660$@gmail.com>

No, not a pyramid skeeme.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bill Dengler
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:12 PM
To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students
mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
OurDisability!

pyramid scheme?

Bill
> On Jul 24, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Helga via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gerardo, how are you? I just wanted to tell you that Networking
business is something that you can work from home and in your own time! It
is like having a part time job! For instance, for my Networking business,
I'm not selling anything, the only thing that I'm doing is recommending a
product that I consume! and that is good for my health! Today at 2 PM
Eastern, I'm having a conference call meeting where we are going to explain
everything all about it! If you are interested, the Conference Call Numberis
323-920-0091 and the Access Code or pass code is 067 5255. Hope to hear
fromyou soon in the call. And also, I just wanted to ask you, where do you
exactly live, and what is your time zone over there? Just wondering! I
actually live in Florida. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!
> 
> 
> 
> Helga Schreiber
> 
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter 
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
> Blind Students Member of The International Networkers Team (INT) 
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research
> 
> Phone: (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 
> 3:16 -----Original Message----- From: Gerardo Corripio via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:57 AM
> To: Peter Donahue ; National Association of Blind Students mailing 
> list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
OurDisability!
> 
> when you guys talk about networking, do you mean signing up with 
> companies like the one that sells Asea, or Chemiset Products, thus 
> working from home?
> 
> El 24/07/2014 10:48 a.m., Peter Donahue via nabs-l escribió:
>> Good morning Helga and everyone,
>> 
>>   We need more blind people to become entrepreneurs rather than simply
finding a job. We're rather disappointed with the attitude of both consumer
organizations of the blind and of the blind in general concerning network
business opportunities. And this despite that back in the 1970s a blind
gentleman from Seattle Washington along with his wife became very successful
in a networking business. He did this without all of the bells and whistles
we now have i.e. smartphones, Internet portals where one can handle business
transactions, direct fulfillment of products, services, and training
materials, the list goes on.
>> 
>>   Some have tried to explain his success away by the fact that his wife
was sighted. This is absolute rubbish! For every blind person with a sighted
spouse that succeed in a business of one kind or other there are 10 who
won't make the effort to try. With unemployment among the blind at 70%
should we only be job seekers or should we be job and opportunity creators?
>> 
>>   Our networking business has been around for over 50 years. Longevity is
a factor to consider whenever you explore one of these opportunities.
Another is if an association that represents the participants has been
established to insure that the interests of the independent business
owner/distributor are represented. These two criteria will go a long way to
insure that you get involved with a tried and true opportunity with a proven
track record and will help you avoid the bad guys.
>> 
>>   Whenever we've attended major business conferences we've seen large
groups of business owners representing various backgrounds, races and
nations. One group has a very large number of East Indian associates,
another has a large group of Hispanic associates. There are groups with
large numbers of Asian business owners as well. These groups consist of
entrepreneurs in just about every profession you could imagine everything
from factory workers to movie stars. With so many nationallities and
professions represented in network marketing in this day and age there is no
excuse for there not to be large numbers of blind persons and others with
disabilities earning big money and succeeding beyond their imaginations and
sharing the wealth with other blind and disabled individuals. This is just
as valid an answer to combating unemployment among the blind as is going to
school for umpteen years and getting that dream job that may materialize in
one or ten years given society's attitude towards the abilities of the
blind. I would also hope that consumer organizations of the blind such as
the NFB will encourage blind individuals to seriously consider business
ownership including participation in a networking opportunity as a viable
alternative to getting a job. I ask you again after you or your state VR
Agency has invested so much in to your education will you simply become a
job seeker or will you become ajob creator for yourself and others including
other blind people?
>> 
>> Peter Donahue
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:00 AM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
OurDisability!
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi everyone! How are you all?  I just wanted to tell you that as you all
know, one of my goals is to become a lawyer in order to advocate for the
disabled, the blind, and people with multiples disabilities!,  but at the
same time I got involved with a serious company, where   I'm doing and
forming my own Networking business! The reason I'm doing this business is
because it open me a door of opportunities in order for me to fulfill my
dreams, and also to help others so that they can fulfill their dreams as
well!  In fact, this is a business opportunity that I would like you to
listen to because it will give you a job opportunity, where you can be
incharge of your own business; instead, of working for someone! Furthermore,
I think this business opportunity is for everyone, but specially for the
blind, visually impaired, and people with multiple disabilities! And wehn we
do this business, we  are not going to do it alone, like traditional
businesses; instead, we are going to have the support of a team, called the
International Networkers Team. And just to let you know, this business is
not just local, is International! I'm the first blind person in this serious
company where I'm doing this business! and if I'm blind and I'm doing it,
all of us can do it as well! If you are interested to hear what  it is all
about, today at 2 PM, I'm having a conference call meeting where one of my
team members is going to explain all about this business opportunity since
she is an expert on it, and since she has been doing this for a long time
due to the fact that I just join in a couple weeks ago! If you are
interested, let me know off list because I don't want to clutter the list
ok? My contact information is below in my email signature. Hope to hear from
you soon. Thanks so much for listening to me, and God blesss! :)
>>> P.S. By the way, sorry for posting an offtopic message for the list!
Thanks again. I really would like to hear your opinion about it! Thanks
again.
>>> 
>>> Helga Schreiber
>>> 
>>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of
Blind Students.
>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
>>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>>> 
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
>>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." 
>>> John 3:16 Sent from my iPhone 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
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>>> .rr.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus
protection is active.
>> http://www.avast.com
>> 
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>> com
> 
> --
> Enviado desde mi lap
> Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki Saludos desde 
> Tampico, Tamaulipas México RompiendoBarreras espacio de 
> psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com
¡los esperamos!
> 
> 
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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Thu Jul 24 17:34:02 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Manners, Derek)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:34:02 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] voting
In-Reply-To: <020901cfa764$6813a5c0$383af140$@gmail.com>
References: <53d139e8.68f7b60a.3912.0fd8@mx.google.com>
	<020901cfa764$6813a5c0$383af140$@gmail.com>
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May I ask what state you are from and what city you plan to vote in?  Every
state has different absentee voting rules.  As a student, this may be a
better option for you than going to your polling place and I'd be happy to
help you look into what accommodations are made in your state.  You can
contact me by email off list or by cell after 5 p.m. eastern time at
9032716494.

Best
Derek


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Sean Whalen via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Sophie,
>
> Thanks to the Help America Vote Act, since 2006 each polling place in
> America is legally required to have at least one machine that a blind
> person
> can use to cast an independent and private ballot. There are several
> different machines, but most I have seen are some variation of a touch
> screen. You plug in headphones and the machine gives you instructions in
> synthesized speech on the specifics of how it functions. Warning: some
> precincts will not have the accessible machine set up and will not want to
> deal with setting it up. I have had a whole range of experiences, from
> walking in and voting at an accessible machine with no problem to having
> workers trying really hard to convince me that I should just let somebody
> fill out a ballot for me because the accessible machine is not set up/too
> slow and confusing/not worth the trouble etc. However, it is your right. It
> is worth noting also that very often the accessible machine is the same
> machine that everybody else uses, just functioning a bit differently (think
> iPhone with Voiceover on vs. Voiceover off). As a vast generalization, you
> will have better luck with accessible voting in bigger cities and towns
> than
> in rural areas. In many rural areas paper ballots are still the norm and
> the
> accessible machine is demanded infrequently. In most urban areas they have
> moved to electronic voting for all, which makes it easier. Again, huge
> generalization, but worth noting. Finally, the NFB usually has a hotline
> number that blind folks can call on election day if we are having trouble
> exercising our right to an independent and secret ballot.
>
> Hope this is useful.
>
> Take care,
>
> Sean
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie Trist
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:52 PM
> To: nabs
> Subject: [nabs-l] voting
>
> NABS friends,
>
> I'm turning eighteen this fall, just in time to vote in my state's
> senatorial elections. And I was wondering, how do blind people vote? D we
> enter a voting booth with a friend or pole worker and just tell them what
> buttons to push? I might be making this up, but I might have heard
> something
> once about how blind people can get absentee ballots sent to them in
> braille. Thanks in advance for your answers!
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Sophie
>
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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 17:39:29 2014
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:39:29 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!
	No	Matter	Our Disability!
Message-ID: <012601cfa766$38fa8a40$aaef9ec0$@gmail.com>

Where else would one promote a business to blind people who are looking for
an opportunity? How about all the jobs that are listed; what is the
difference?  With the "seventy percent unemployment rate,," wouldn't a
business opportunity, essentially a job, be welcomed provided that the
individual does not over do it?  I'm just curious; because the job
opportunities probably shouldn't be listed either, even though I would
soarly  dislike that.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sean Whalen via
nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:27 PM
To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; 'National Association of Blind Students
mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
OurDisability!

Hi all,

Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home
businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not it. We
are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's please avoid
posting solicitations and promotions like this.

Thanks,

Sean




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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 17:40:46 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:40:46 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
	OurDisability!
In-Reply-To: <B822F1A4-0B23-42E0-B8A7-8DED43A4948A@gmail.com>
References: <06CF8BDD-26ED-4D4A-A4B8-9197474649DD@gmail.com>
	<0517D79E04314880B03A71F1FBB5F8FD@peted2AB964BD1>
	<53D12CCF.2000407@gmail.com>
	<DCD3B0F003FC401C8E5657869EF7E60C@Helga>
	<B822F1A4-0B23-42E0-B8A7-8DED43A4948A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <266B6AAB61F648A88A242A4F40A5C764@Helga>

            Hi Bill!, how are you? I just wanted to tell you that the 
Networking business that I'm doing is not a Pyramid Scheme ok? If it was, do 
you think I will share it here? Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God 
bless! :)
P.S. And please, if you want to reply to me, write me off list ok? Thanks 
again! :)



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

Phone: (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
-----Original Message----- 
From: Bill Dengler
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:11 PM
To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com ; National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list
Cc: Gerardo Corripio
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter 
OurDisability!

pyramid scheme?

Bill
> On Jul 24, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Helga via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Gerardo, how are you? I just wanted to tell you that Networking 
> business is something that you can work from home and in your own time! It 
> is like having a part time job! For instance, for my Networking business, 
> I'm not selling anything, the only thing that I'm doing is recommending a 
> product that I consume! and that is good for my health! Today at 2 PM 
> Eastern, I'm having a conference call meeting where we are going to 
> explain everything all about it! If you are interested, the Conference 
> Call Numberis 323-920-0091 and the Access Code or pass code is 067 5255. 
> Hope to hear fromyou soon in the call. And also, I just wanted to ask you, 
> where do you exactly live, and what is your time zone over there? Just 
> wondering! I actually live in Florida. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks 
> and God bless!
>
>
>
> Helga Schreiber
>
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
> Blind Students
> Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research
>
> Phone: (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
> -----Original Message----- From: Gerardo Corripio via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 11:57 AM
> To: Peter Donahue ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter 
> OurDisability!
>
> when you guys talk about networking, do you mean signing up with
> companies like the one that sells Asea, or Chemiset Products, thus
> working from home?
>
> El 24/07/2014 10:48 a.m., Peter Donahue via nabs-l escribió:
>> Good morning Helga and everyone,
>>
>>   We need more blind people to become entrepreneurs rather than simply 
>> finding a job. We're rather disappointed with the attitude of both 
>> consumer organizations of the blind and of the blind in general 
>> concerning network business opportunities. And this despite that back in 
>> the 1970s a blind gentleman from Seattle Washington along with his wife 
>> became very successful in a networking business. He did this without all 
>> of the bells and whistles we now have i.e. smartphones, Internet portals 
>> where one can handle business transactions, direct fulfillment of 
>> products, services, and training materials, the list goes on.
>>
>>   Some have tried to explain his success away by the fact that his wife 
>> was sighted. This is absolute rubbish! For every blind person with a 
>> sighted spouse that succeed in a business of one kind or other there are 
>> 10 who won't make the effort to try. With unemployment among the blind at 
>> 70% should we only be job seekers or should we be job and opportunity 
>> creators?
>>
>>   Our networking business has been around for over 50 years. Longevity is 
>> a factor to consider whenever you explore one of these opportunities. 
>> Another is if an association that represents the participants has been 
>> established to insure that the interests of the independent business 
>> owner/distributor are represented. These two criteria will go a long way 
>> to insure that you get involved with a tried and true opportunity with a 
>> proven track record and will help you avoid the bad guys.
>>
>>   Whenever we've attended major business conferences we've seen large 
>> groups of business owners representing various backgrounds, races and 
>> nations. One group has a very large number of East Indian associates, 
>> another has a large group of Hispanic associates. There are groups with 
>> large numbers of Asian business owners as well. These groups consist of 
>> entrepreneurs in just about every profession you could imagine everything 
>> from factory workers to movie stars. With so many nationallities and 
>> professions represented in network marketing in this day and age there is 
>> no excuse for there not to be large numbers of blind persons and others 
>> with disabilities earning big money and succeeding beyond their 
>> imaginations and sharing the wealth with other blind and disabled 
>> individuals. This is just as valid an answer to combating unemployment 
>> among the blind as is going to school for umpteen years and getting that 
>> dream job that may materialize in one or ten years given society's 
>> attitude towards the abilities of the blind. I would also hope that 
>> consumer organizations of the blind such as the NFB will encourage blind 
>> individuals to seriously consider business ownership including 
>> participation in a networking opportunity as a viable alternative to 
>> getting a job. I ask you again after you or your state VR Agency has 
>> invested so much in to your education will you simply become a job seeker 
>> or will you become ajob creator for yourself and others including other 
>> blind people?
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:00 AM
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter 
>> OurDisability!
>>
>>
>>> Hi everyone! How are you all?  I just wanted to tell you that as you all 
>>> know, one of my goals is to become a lawyer in order to advocate for the 
>>> disabled, the blind, and people with multiples disabilities!,  but at 
>>> the same time I got involved with a serious company, where   I'm doing 
>>> and forming my own Networking business! The reason I'm doing this 
>>> business is because it open me a door of opportunities in order for me 
>>> to fulfill my dreams, and also to help others so that they can fulfill 
>>> their dreams as well!  In fact, this is a business opportunity that I 
>>> would like you to listen to because it will give you a job opportunity, 
>>> where you can be incharge of your own business; instead, of working for 
>>> someone! Furthermore, I think this business opportunity is for everyone, 
>>> but specially for the blind, visually impaired, and people with multiple 
>>> disabilities! And wehn we do this business, we  are not going to do it 
>>> alone, like traditional businesses; instead, we are going to have the 
>>> support of a team, called the International Networkers Team. And just to 
>>> let you know, this business is not just local, is International! I'm the 
>>> first blind person in this serious company where I'm doing this 
>>> business! and if I'm blind and I'm doing it, all of us can do it as 
>>> well! If you are interested to hear what  it is all about, today at 2 
>>> PM, I'm having a conference call meeting where one of my team members is 
>>> going to explain all about this business opportunity since she is an 
>>> expert on it, and since she has been doing this for a long time due to 
>>> the fact that I just join in a couple weeks ago! If you are interested, 
>>> let me know off list because I don't want to clutter the list ok? My 
>>> contact information is below in my email signature. Hope to hear from 
>>> you soon. Thanks so much for listening to me, and God blesss! :)
>>> P.S. By the way, sorry for posting an offtopic message for the list! 
>>> Thanks again. I really would like to hear your opinion about it! Thanks 
>>> again.
>>>
>>> Helga Schreiber
>>>
>>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
>>> Blind Students.
>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
>>> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
>>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>>>
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
>>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 
>>> 3:16
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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From pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com  Thu Jul 24 17:56:16 2014
From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com (Peter Donahue)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:56:16 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!
	NoMatter	OurDisability!
References: <06CF8BDD-26ED-4D4A-A4B8-9197474649DD@gmail.com><0517D79E04314880B03A71F1FBB5F8FD@peted2AB964BD1>	<53D12CCF.2000407@gmail.com><DCD3B0F003FC401C8E5657869EF7E60C@Helga>
	<020a01cfa764$85224ea0$8f66ebe0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2692B9F6278F44A19A654DBB495D6D49@peted2AB964BD1>

Hello Shawn and everyone,

    The vast majority of individuals we see at our information sessions are 
students members of Generation Y. In these uncertain times these students 
are realizing that going to school and getting good jobs is no longer the 
answer to establishing a career path. These folks would run you out of town 
if you forbad discussions of income producing alternatives and I don't blame 
them! This is one reason why a few of us have felt that an organization of 
the blind that promotes entrepreneurship and the creation of lifetime income 
is needed.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sean Whalen via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>; "'National Association of Blind Students 
mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! NoMatter 
OurDisability!


> Hi all,
>
> Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home
> businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not it. We
> are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's please avoid
> posting solicitations and promotions like this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 18:07:51 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:07:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can
	Do!No	Matter	Our Disability!
References: <012601cfa766$38fa8a40$aaef9ec0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AA88A277BD954EB6B8CC3ABAD029494C@robert9999b7cf>

So you're saying that a blind person Helga, who is getting out there and 
getting active, can't share with us other blind people what she is wanting 
to do? Have we become so narrow minded, that we do not take other Ideas into 
account? Dr. RJ Sandefur
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "justin williams via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Sean Whalen'" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>; "'National Association of Blind 
Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!No Matter 
Our Disability!


> Where else would one promote a business to blind people who are looking 
> for
> an opportunity? How about all the jobs that are listed; what is the
> difference?  With the "seventy percent unemployment rate,," wouldn't a
> business opportunity, essentially a job, be welcomed provided that the
> individual does not over do it?  I'm just curious; because the job
> opportunities probably shouldn't be listed either, even though I would
> soarly  dislike that.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sean Whalen 
> via
> nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:27 PM
> To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; 'National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
> OurDisability!
>
> Hi all,
>
> Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home
> businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not it. We
> are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's please avoid
> posting solicitations and promotions like this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 24 18:11:56 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:11:56 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!	No
	Matter	Our Disability!
Message-ID: <COL401-EAS511D967AED350111FED73D3BAFF0@phx.gbl>

Hello Peter,

I think it is best for you to respect what others choose to do with their
lives. The NFB has a division devoted to entrepreneurship, and if people
wish to pursue this path in their lives, the opportunity is there for the
taking. I also believe the NFB sponsors the BLAST conferences, which I
believe are also dedicated to entrepreneurship. However, if someone chooses
to attend college, I do not believe you or anyone else should be telling
this person that they are making the wrong decision for their life. What a
person chooses to do in their life is personal and individual, and should
not be dictated by what someone else believes they should do with their
life.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:56 PM
To: Sean Whalen; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! NoMatter
OurDisability!

Hello Shawn and everyone,

    The vast majority of individuals we see at our information sessions are
students members of Generation Y. In these uncertain times these students
are realizing that going to school and getting good jobs is no longer the
answer to establishing a career path. These folks would run you out of town
if you forbad discussions of income producing alternatives and I don't blame
them! This is one reason why a few of us have felt that an organization of
the blind that promotes entrepreneurship and the creation of lifetime income
is needed.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean Whalen via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>; "'National Association of Blind Students
mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! NoMatter
OurDisability!


> Hi all,
>
> Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home 
> businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not 
> it. We are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's 
> please avoid posting solicitations and promotions like this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From jim.hulme at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 18:16:37 2014
From: jim.hulme at gmail.com (James Hulme)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:16:37 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
	Our Disability!
In-Reply-To: <COL401-EAS511D967AED350111FED73D3BAFF0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL401-EAS511D967AED350111FED73D3BAFF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAKMC2e4gtugay2ybw0O=u63PeXfZckdp2VREuf+4v-Ha49MEvw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello helga,

I recently sent an e-mail off list concerning this subject. I hope I do not
confuse you. Good luck in your future endeavors.

Jimmy Hulme
jim.hulme at gmail.com


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hello Peter,
>
> I think it is best for you to respect what others choose to do with their
> lives. The NFB has a division devoted to entrepreneurship, and if people
> wish to pursue this path in their lives, the opportunity is there for the
> taking. I also believe the NFB sponsors the BLAST conferences, which I
> believe are also dedicated to entrepreneurship. However, if someone chooses
> to attend college, I do not believe you or anyone else should be telling
> this person that they are making the wrong decision for their life. What a
> person chooses to do in their life is personal and individual, and should
> not be dictated by what someone else believes they should do with their
> life.
>
> Warm regards,
> Elizabeth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
> via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:56 PM
> To: Sean Whalen; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! NoMatter
> OurDisability!
>
> Hello Shawn and everyone,
>
>     The vast majority of individuals we see at our information sessions are
> students members of Generation Y. In these uncertain times these students
> are realizing that going to school and getting good jobs is no longer the
> answer to establishing a career path. These folks would run you out of town
> if you forbad discussions of income producing alternatives and I don't
> blame
> them! This is one reason why a few of us have felt that an organization of
> the blind that promotes entrepreneurship and the creation of lifetime
> income
> is needed.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Whalen via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>; "'National Association of Blind
> Students
> mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! NoMatter
> OurDisability!
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home
> > businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not
> > it. We are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's
> > please avoid posting solicitations and promotions like this.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >
> >
> >
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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Thu Jul 24 18:18:35 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Manners, Derek)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:18:35 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! NoMatter
	OurDisability!
In-Reply-To: <2692B9F6278F44A19A654DBB495D6D49@peted2AB964BD1>
References: <06CF8BDD-26ED-4D4A-A4B8-9197474649DD@gmail.com>
	<0517D79E04314880B03A71F1FBB5F8FD@peted2AB964BD1>
	<53D12CCF.2000407@gmail.com>
	<DCD3B0F003FC401C8E5657869EF7E60C@Helga>
	<020a01cfa764$85224ea0$8f66ebe0$@gmail.com>
	<2692B9F6278F44A19A654DBB495D6D49@peted2AB964BD1>
Message-ID: <CAAP4LJoOzrkCcjHY4k5-8JeZUVf-JGVSGXRRwoW2k3CoK6J5WQ@mail.gmail.com>

I completely agree.  There should be a list serve for concerns and topics
related to starting your own business.  I think Sean's point was that
advertising your own business is so far away from what you are suggesting
it is inappropriate given that this is a student forum and that even if
there were an entrepreneur forum, promoting your own business would
probably not be allowed there either.

Best
Derek


On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Peter Donahue via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> wrote:

> Hello Shawn and everyone,
>
>    The vast majority of individuals we see at our information sessions are
> students members of Generation Y. In these uncertain times these students
> are realizing that going to school and getting good jobs is no longer the
> answer to establishing a career path. These folks would run you out of town
> if you forbad discussions of income producing alternatives and I don't
> blame them! This is one reason why a few of us have felt that an
> organization of the blind that promotes entrepreneurship and the creation
> of lifetime income is needed.
>
> Peter Donahue
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Whalen via nabs-l" <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>; "'National Association of Blind
> Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! NoMatter
> OurDisability!
>
>
>  Hi all,
>>
>> Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home
>> businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not it. We
>> are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's please avoid
>> posting solicitations and promotions like this.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From internetradioentertainer at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 18:20:03 2014
From: internetradioentertainer at gmail.com (David Dunphy)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:20:03 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Relive The Showcase Of Talent From This Year's National
	Convention
Message-ID: <53D14E53.601@gmail.com>

Hi All!
For those who couldn't be there when it happened, join us tonight at 8 
PM eastern as we relive the experience of the showcase of talent from 
this year's NFB 2014 convention.
The presentation will begin promptly at 8 PM eastern tonight.
During or after the presentation, you can contact me at
internetradioentertainer at gmail.com
or on twitter at
crazyyetfun2014
with comments.
To listen tonight, visit
http://www.wdjm3.com/player
and either
Click the play link to listen with your mobile device or mac
Or use the links on the page to tune in with a player like Winamp or a 
similar media player.
Alternatively, you can put the following into your media player of choice:
http://199.180.72.17:9880

Regardless of how you listen, hope you'll tune in tonight!
 From David Dunphy


From franks.jonathan13 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 18:24:11 2014
From: franks.jonathan13 at gmail.com (jonathan franks)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 13:24:11 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] voting
In-Reply-To: <53d139e8.68f7b60a.3912.0fd8@mx.google.com>
References: <53d139e8.68f7b60a.3912.0fd8@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CAHEy+8VOB8Um=TQv72aLPLi29VPy6cFoxGNHnKZ56Pv9ghMeDQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Sophie,
I am not sure what state you are from. I live in Texas and there are
accessible voting machines. You simply put headphones on, turn a wheel
and the candidates names are vocally read out to you.

I would call  your local voter registration office and inquire if they
have accessible voting machines.

Best

Jonathan

On 7/24/14, Sophie Trist via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> NABS friends,
>
> I'm turning eighteen this fall, just in time to vote in my
> state's senatorial elections. And I was wondering, how do blind
> people vote? D we enter a voting booth with a friend or pole
> worker and just tell them what buttons to push? I might be making
> this up, but I might have heard something once about how blind
> people can get absentee ballots sent to them in braille. Thanks
> in advance for your answers!
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Sophie
>
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The University of Texas at Austin
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Diabetes Action Network (NFB)
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From marissat789 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 18:27:02 2014
From: marissat789 at gmail.com (Marissa Tejeda)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:27:02 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Relive The Showcase Of Talent From This Year's
	NationalConvention
Message-ID: <53d15014.292a460a.0778.054b@mx.google.com>


Will this session be recorded?


 ----- Original Message -----
From: David Dunphy via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:20:03 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Relive The Showcase Of Talent From This Year's 
NationalConvention

Hi All!
For those who couldn't be there when it happened, join us tonight 
at 8
PM eastern as we relive the experience of the showcase of talent 
from
this year's NFB 2014 convention.
The presentation will begin promptly at 8 PM eastern tonight.
During or after the presentation, you can contact me at
internetradioentertainer at gmail.com
or on twitter at
crazyyetfun2014
with comments.
To listen tonight, visit
http://www.wdjm3.com/player
and either
Click the play link to listen with your mobile device or mac
Or use the links on the page to tune in with a player like Winamp 
or a
similar media player.
Alternatively, you can put the following into your media player 
of choice:
http://199.180.72.17:9880

Regardless of how you listen, hope you'll tune in tonight!
 From David Dunphy

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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Thu Jul 24 18:56:40 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:56:40 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] voting
In-Reply-To: <53d139e8.68f7b60a.3912.0fd8@mx.google.com>
References: <53d139e8.68f7b60a.3912.0fd8@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <COL401-EAS3167489AF704A734BD27EAFBAFF0@phx.gbl>

Hello Sophie,

I think it is great that you are eager to vote in your first election. While
the Help America Vote Act requires states to have at least one machine that
a blind person can use at every polling place, it does not specifically
state what kind of voting machine should be used. Therefore, each state does
things a little differently. To find out which voting method is used in your
state, you could try searching for this information on your states Secretary
of State webpage, calling your local clerk's office, or asking other NFB
members in your state or local chapter.

I voted absentee once when I was about to move just before an election took
place. The absentee ballot was not in Braille, so I had to have someone
sighted help me fill it out. However, this was quite some time ago, and
things may have changed since then. I always do my best to vote in person
because I think this helps to show others that people actually want to use
the accessible voting machines. I think it also helps to show others that I
want to participate in the voting process as a blind person.

However, none of the generalizations Sean stated in his post have applied to
me. I actually found it easier to vote using the accessible voting machines
when I lived out in the country with my parents than I have while living on
my own in the city. The last time I voted, the accessible voting machine was
not working. They had already called the repair person once to come out and
fix it, but when it stopped working again, this person was not available to
take another look at it to get it back up and working again. Since Michigan
still uses a paper ballot, I had to have someone help me fill out the
ballot. When you request someone at the polling place to help you fill out
your ballot, they will make two people do this to ensure your ballot is
being cast in the way that you want it to be cast. 

I felt really bad about doing this as it seemed as though the voting place
was somewhat busy at the time. And I felt even more bad about this when my
ballot was spoiled when the poll worker marked the ballot incorrectly near
the end of the ballot. When I called the NFB hotline number when I got home,
it seemed as though there was really not much they could do about my
situation based on the type of accessible voting machine my state currently
uses.

Anyway, I hope some of this helps you. But I think the most important thing
for you to do in order to vote is to make sure that you register to vote in
time so that you can actually vote in the election. I am not sure if this is
standard for all states or not, so perhaps someone else may be able to help
you find this information if you need it.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth












-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sophie Trist
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:52 PM
To: nabs
Subject: [nabs-l] voting

NABS friends,

I'm turning eighteen this fall, just in time to vote in my 
state's senatorial elections. And I was wondering, how do blind 
people vote? D we enter a voting booth with a friend or pole 
worker and just tell them what buttons to push? I might be making 
this up, but I might have heard something once about how blind 
people can get absentee ballots sent to them in braille. Thanks 
in advance for your answers!

Yours sincerely,
Sophie

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From gera1027 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 19:14:23 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:14:23 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Apex with Flash and rar files?
Message-ID: <53D15B0F.1000703@gmail.com>

  HI guys
Please let me know exactly what topics are allowed on here? thus I risk 
by asking sort of a tech question though I know this isn't a tech list; 
since I'd imagine some of you use BrailleNote Apex for school or work, 
I'm curious: I'm in contact with a blind friend in Mexico city who 
because of lack of computer training, uses her Apex for everything; how 
would she unpack rar files? because she says that the only files that 
work for unpacking are zip? Also flash content like Youtube and other 
sites like where I have my Psychology program Radiogeneral.com, how can 
it be watched?

-- 
Enviado desde mi lap
Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!



From marissat789 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 19:19:25 2014
From: marissat789 at gmail.com (Marissa Tejeda)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:19:25 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote Apex with Flash and rar files?
Message-ID: <53d15c5b.a189440a.34bf.0535@mx.google.com>


Youtube=20cannot=20be=20watched=20unless=20converted=20through=20a=20conver=
ter.=20=20
Zipped=20files=20are=20the=20only=20ones=20that=20can=20be=20unpacked=20on=
=20the=20Apex.=20=20
Have=20your=20friend=20joine=20the=20bnu=20list.=20=20Plenty=20of=20people=
=20there=20to=20
help.

Youtube=20conversion=20sites=20are:
www.grab-tube.com=20(for=20smaller=20videos=20under=208=20minutes=20i=20thi=
nk)
convert2mp3.net=20(limit=20is=2090=20minutes)
flv2mp3.net
flvto.com
and=20a=20few=20others=20that=20I=20do=20not=20know=20the=20names=20of.
If=20the=20friend=20has=20any=20questions,=20feel=20free=20to=20have=20her=
=20email=20me,=20
or=20the=20BrailleNote=20users=20list.


Thanks,
Marissa

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Gerardo=20Corripio=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Thu,=2024=20Jul=202014=2014:14:23=20-0500
Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20BrailleNote=20Apex=20with=20Flash=20and=20rar=20files=
?

=20=20HI=20guys
Please=20let=20me=20know=20exactly=20what=20topics=20are=20allowed=20on=20h=
ere?=20thus=20
I=20risk
by=20asking=20sort=20of=20a=20tech=20question=20though=20I=20know=20this=20=
isn't=20a=20tech=20
list;
since=20I'd=20imagine=20some=20of=20you=20use=20BrailleNote=20Apex=20for=20=
school=20or=20
work,
I'm=20curious:=20I'm=20in=20contact=20with=20a=20blind=20friend=20in=20Mexi=
co=20city=20
who
because=20of=20lack=20of=20computer=20training,=20uses=20her=20Apex=20for=20=

everything;=20how
would=20she=20unpack=20rar=20files?=20because=20she=20says=20that=20the=20o=
nly=20files=20
that
work=20for=20unpacking=20are=20zip?=20Also=20flash=20content=20like=20Youtu=
be=20and=20
other
sites=20like=20where=20I=20have=20my=20Psychology=20program=20Radiogeneral.=
com,=20
how=20can
it=20be=20watched?

--
Enviado=20desde=20mi=20lap
Gerardo=20J=20Corripio=20Flores=20Psic=F3logo,=20Terap=E9uta=20Reiki
Saludos=20desde=20Tampico,=20Tamaulipas=20M=E9xico
RompiendoBarreras=20espacio=20de=20psicolog=EDa/Superaci=F3n=20Personal=20
S=E1bados=2010PM=20M=E9xico=20http://radiogeneral.com=20=A1los=20esperamos!=



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From kmaent1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 19:24:06 2014
From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:24:06 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] voting
Message-ID: <53d15d67.e949320a.43db.ffff9f2c@mx.google.com>

Hello Sophie,

Something I did the first time I was old enough to vote that 
might help you is to go to my city clerk's office and ask this 
question to the clerk.  Not only is this a good way of finding 
out how things are done in your state (as Elizabeth says they 
vary), but because I then had a personal relationship with the 
clerk she made sure that the accessible machine at my poling 
place was set up, and I've never had a problem voting.  When they 
know ahead of time that a blind person wants to vote, election 
workers tend to be more than happy to accommodate them, but for 
instance where I live there are seven precincts, and there's only 
one other blind person who uses the accessible machines.  
Absentee ballots as far as I know are never in Braille.  Some 
states are moving to online voting though, and I know the NFB is 
working to try to make that accessible.

I hope you have a great first experience voting!

Best,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Sophie Trist via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: nabs <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:52:25 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] voting

NABS friends,

I'm turning eighteen this fall, just in time to vote in my
state's senatorial elections. And I was wondering, how do blind
people vote? D we enter a voting booth with a friend or pole
worker and just tell them what buttons to push? I might be making
this up, but I might have heard something once about how blind
people can get absentee ballots sent to them in braille. Thanks
in advance for your answers!

Yours sincerely,
Sophie

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From kmaent1 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 19:39:58 2014
From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:39:58 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No	Matter	Our
	Disability!
Message-ID: <53d1611f.e842320a.22f1.008b@mx.google.com>

RJ,

Helga like you and anyone else can share whatever she wants with 
her friends, but this is a listserve for discussing issues having 
to do with being a blind student not a social networking site or 
a bulletin board for posting job opportunities.  Both of those 
things exist for people who are interested in them, but this is 
not the place.  I've only been on this list for a couple months, 
but it's incredibly frustrating to have to read through people's 
personal messages to each other and then on top of it to be 
spammed about a pyramid scheme.  Thank you Sean for trying to 
hold the line!

Best,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>,"National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:07:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No	
Matter	Our Disability!

So you're saying that a blind person Helga, who is getting out 
there and
getting active, can't share with us other blind people what she 
is wanting
to do? Have we become so narrow minded, that we do not take other 
Ideas into
account? Dr. RJ Sandefur
----- Original Message -----
From: "justin williams via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "'Sean Whalen'" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>; "'National 
Association of Blind
Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can 
Do!No Matter
Our Disability!


 Where else would one promote a business to blind people who are 
looking
 for
 an opportunity? How about all the jobs that are listed; what is 
the
 difference?  With the "seventy percent unemployment rate,," 
wouldn't a
 business opportunity, essentially a job, be welcomed provided 
that the
 individual does not over do it?  I'm just curious; because the 
job
 opportunities probably shouldn't be listed either, even though I 
would
 soarly  dislike that.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Sean Whalen
 via
 nabs-l
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:27 PM
 To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; 'National Association of Blind 
Students
 mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! 
No Matter
 OurDisability!

 Hi all,

 Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting 
our home
 businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is 
not it. We
 are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's 
please avoid
 posting solicitations and promotions like this.

 Thanks,

 Sean




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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 20:00:47 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:00:47 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us
	CanDo!No	Matter	OurDisability!
In-Reply-To: <53d1611f.e842320a.22f1.008b@mx.google.com>
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Message-ID: <567ABBF7AEB54C9C8C3FE14F1B9B4658@Helga>

Hi Mr. Karl, How are you? I just wanted to tell you that this business that 
I'm doing is not a Pyramid Scheme! If it was, do you think I will posted in 
this list? And I understand that you don't want me to posted here, but the 
only think I was doing wwhen I post my message here, is to help others since 
we are the NFB, and we are looking for each other in order to help othres! 
Now, probably I'm in trouble because I'm posting this message in here!, but 
if you want to contact me, can you do it off list ok please? I really would 
like to talk to you Mr. Karl. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God 
bless!



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

Phone: (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
-----Original Message----- 
From: Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 3:39 PM
To: RJ Sandefur ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No Matter 
OurDisability!

RJ,

Helga like you and anyone else can share whatever she wants with
her friends, but this is a listserve for discussing issues having
to do with being a blind student not a social networking site or
a bulletin board for posting job opportunities.  Both of those
things exist for people who are interested in them, but this is
not the place.  I've only been on this list for a couple months,
but it's incredibly frustrating to have to read through people's
personal messages to each other and then on top of it to be
spammed about a pyramid scheme.  Thank you Sean for trying to
hold the line!

Best,
Karl

----- Original Message -----
From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>,"National
Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:07:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No
Matter Our Disability!

So you're saying that a blind person Helga, who is getting out
there and
getting active, can't share with us other blind people what she
is wanting
to do? Have we become so narrow minded, that we do not take other
Ideas into
account? Dr. RJ Sandefur
----- Original Message -----
From: "justin williams via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "'Sean Whalen'" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>; "'National
Association of Blind
Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can
Do!No Matter
Our Disability!


Where else would one promote a business to blind people who are
looking
for
an opportunity? How about all the jobs that are listed; what is
the
difference?  With the "seventy percent unemployment rate,,"
wouldn't a
business opportunity, essentially a job, be welcomed provided
that the
individual does not over do it?  I'm just curious; because the
job
opportunities probably shouldn't be listed either, even though I
would
soarly  dislike that.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Sean Whalen
via
nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:27 PM
To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; 'National Association of Blind
Students
mailing list'
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!
No Matter
OurDisability!

Hi all,

Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting
our home
businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is
not it. We
are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's
please avoid
posting solicitations and promotions like this.

Thanks,

Sean




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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 20:05:39 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:05:39 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No	Matter	Our
	Disability!
In-Reply-To: <AA88A277BD954EB6B8CC3ABAD029494C@robert9999b7cf>
References: <012601cfa766$38fa8a40$aaef9ec0$@gmail.com>
	<AA88A277BD954EB6B8CC3ABAD029494C@robert9999b7cf>
Message-ID: <57F7246B555642AA9EF92D4E4DE2E696@Helga>

Hi RJ! How are you? Can you write me off list? I really would like to talk 
to you off list ok? Thanks!



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

Phone: (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
-----Original Message----- 
From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 2:07 PM
To: justin williams ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No Matter Our 
Disability!

So you're saying that a blind person Helga, who is getting out there and
getting active, can't share with us other blind people what she is wanting
to do? Have we become so narrow minded, that we do not take other Ideas into
account? Dr. RJ Sandefur
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "justin williams via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Sean Whalen'" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>; "'National Association of Blind
Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!No Matter
Our Disability!


> Where else would one promote a business to blind people who are looking 
> for
> an opportunity? How about all the jobs that are listed; what is the
> difference?  With the "seventy percent unemployment rate,," wouldn't a
> business opportunity, essentially a job, be welcomed provided that the
> individual does not over do it?  I'm just curious; because the job
> opportunities probably shouldn't be listed either, even though I would
> soarly  dislike that.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sean Whalen 
> via
> nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:27 PM
> To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; 'National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
> OurDisability!
>
> Hi all,
>
> Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home
> businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not it. We
> are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's please avoid
> posting solicitations and promotions like this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
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From ligne14 at verizon.net  Thu Jul 24 20:19:25 2014
From: ligne14 at verizon.net (sami osborne)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:19:25 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us
	CanDo!No	Matter	OurDisability!
Message-ID: <0N98009OOGI0LZH0@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net>

Karl,
I usually don't reply to topics lth but I'd like to interveen 
here this that.


First of all, I'm sorry, but I do not see your point here.

This is not a  message that Helga wanted to send someone 
personally, this must just be something that she thinks that we, 
blind students, are interested in, as RJ said.

It would be extremely cumbersome to write everyone off list to 
share this information, as you say, don't you think?
Personally, I think that anything that is blindness-related 
belongs here so that we students can exceed our expectations even 
further.  Helga has pointed out in her first message here that 
blind people should get involved in networking and 
entrepenourship.

However Karl, I do agree with you that Bill's post about this 
being a "pyramid scheme" was just spam.
Also Bill, I'm not trying to be rude, I just want to let you know 
that you should think about the positive and negative benefits of 
something before posting a negative comment about it.

Thanks,

Sami.


 ----- Original Message -----
From: Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>,National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:39:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No	
Matter	OurDisability!

RJ,

Helga like you and anyone else can share whatever she wants with
her friends, but this is a listserve for discussing issues having
to do with being a blind student not a social networking site or
a bulletin board for posting job opportunities.  Both of those
things exist for people who are interested in them, but this is
not the place.  I've only been on this list for a couple months,
but it's incredibly frustrating to have to read through people's
personal messages to each other and then on top of it to be
spammed about a pyramid scheme.  Thank you Sean for trying to
hold the line!

Best,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>,"National
Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:07:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No
Matter	Our Disability!

So you're saying that a blind person Helga, who is getting out
there and
getting active, can't share with us other blind people what she
is wanting
to do? Have we become so narrow minded, that we do not take other
Ideas into
account? Dr.  RJ Sandefur
----- Original Message -----
From: "justin williams via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "'Sean Whalen'" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>; "'National
Association of Blind
Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can
Do!No Matter
Our Disability!


 Where else would one promote a business to blind people who are
looking
 for
 an opportunity? How about all the jobs that are listed; what is
the
 difference?  With the "seventy percent unemployment rate,,"
wouldn't a
 business opportunity, essentially a job, be welcomed provided
that the
 individual does not over do it?  I'm just curious; because the
job
 opportunities probably shouldn't be listed either, even though I
would
 soarly  dislike that.

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Sean Whalen
 via
 nabs-l
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:27 PM
 To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; 'National Association of Blind
Students
 mailing list'
 Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!
No Matter
 OurDisability!

 Hi all,

 Let's please remember that this list has a purpose.  Promoting
our home
 businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is
not it.  We
 are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's
please avoid
 posting solicitations and promotions like this.

 Thanks,

 Sean




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From codeofdusk at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 20:25:55 2014
From: codeofdusk at gmail.com (Bill Dengler)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:25:55 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No	Matter	Our
	Disability!
In-Reply-To: <53d1611f.e842320a.22f1.008b@mx.google.com>
References: <53d1611f.e842320a.22f1.008b@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <9B1A87E8-F495-4884-B29E-3873E52317BE@gmail.com>

+1!

Bill
> On Jul 24, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> RJ,
> 
> Helga like you and anyone else can share whatever she wants with her friends, but this is a listserve for discussing issues having to do with being a blind student not a social networking site or a bulletin board for posting job opportunities.  Both of those things exist for people who are interested in them, but this is not the place.  I've only been on this list for a couple months, but it's incredibly frustrating to have to read through people's personal messages to each other and then on top of it to be spammed about a pyramid scheme.  Thank you Sean for trying to hold the line!
> 
> Best,
> Karl
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>,"National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:07:51 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No	
> Matter	Our Disability!
> 
> So you're saying that a blind person Helga, who is getting out there and
> getting active, can't share with us other blind people what she is wanting
> to do? Have we become so narrow minded, that we do not take other Ideas into
> account? Dr. RJ Sandefur
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "justin williams via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: "'Sean Whalen'" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>; "'National Association of Blind
> Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!No Matter
> Our Disability!
> 
> 
> Where else would one promote a business to blind people who are looking
> for
> an opportunity? How about all the jobs that are listed; what is the
> difference?  With the "seventy percent unemployment rate,," wouldn't a
> business opportunity, essentially a job, be welcomed provided that the
> individual does not over do it?  I'm just curious; because the job
> opportunities probably shouldn't be listed either, even though I would
> soarly  dislike that.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sean Whalen
> via
> nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:27 PM
> To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; 'National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
> OurDisability!
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home
> businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not it. We
> are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's please avoid
> posting solicitations and promotions like this.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com  Thu Jul 24 20:28:50 2014
From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com (Peter Donahue)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 15:28:50 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can
	Do!No	Matter	Our Disability!
References: <012601cfa766$38fa8a40$aaef9ec0$@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0FCC20E741C843D68764D584E8FF3917@peted2AB964BD1>

Good afternoon again everyone,

    Here we are trying to promote independence and self-sufficiency for the 
blind and those attempting to do just that get slammed for sharing a way for 
those that choose to participate to achieve these goals. The very 
organization that is supposed to be promoting independence and self 
sufficiency among the blind is to thank for squelching such efforts 
undertaken by blind individuals and continuing to promote continued 
dependency on Governmental programs. This is very wrong!

    If getting involved in a networking business allows one to raise money 
to fund one's education they should be permitted to invite others to learn 
about it. With the increasing number of sighted students seeking to create 
multiple income sources blind students need to do the same. I have seen this 
happen on a number of NFB Lists including the Blind Entrepreneur's List and 
strongly urge NABS and our other affiliates to stop it!If raising awareness 
about becoming an entrepreneur, developing a business opportunity, and 
inviting others to do the same will mean that a blind student can persue the 
career of their choice without any involvement by a state VR agency they 
need to know that such opportunities are available to them. If building a 
network business would enable a blind student to fund training at an NFB 
Center they need to know how to do so. If having a large number of blind 
students involved in network marketing will mean substantial increases to 
the PAC Plan, increased funding for NABS, new NFB Scholarships, a decrease 
in the number of unemployed blind persons, the creation of a 24-hour 
broadcast service that carries information of interest to the blind that 
does not extract funds from other NFB activities and programs, there needs 
to be large numbers of blind entrepreneurs in our ranks building networking 
and other businesses. The time is now. Also let's not forget that some of us 
go to college to study Business Administration and other business-related 
courses. For these reasons a discussion of such opportunities is very 
appropriate for this and other employment-related NFB Lists.

    We have been around professional networking since 1977 and know first 
hand about the blind gentleman who achieved a high level of success in a 
networking business long before the many technological advances available to 
us today were around. Other blind individuals need to learn of his success 
and follow in his lead in large numbers to spread the wealth around and put 
a big dent in the unemployment of the blind by being job creators not just 
job seekers.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "justin williams via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Sean Whalen'" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>; "'National Association of Blind 
Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!No Matter 
Our Disability!


> Where else would one promote a business to blind people who are looking 
> for
> an opportunity? How about all the jobs that are listed; what is the
> difference?  With the "seventy percent unemployment rate,," wouldn't a
> business opportunity, essentially a job, be welcomed provided that the
> individual does not over do it?  I'm just curious; because the job
> opportunities probably shouldn't be listed either, even though I would
> soarly  dislike that.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sean Whalen 
> via
> nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:27 PM
> To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; 'National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
> OurDisability!
>
> Hi all,
>
> Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home
> businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not it. We
> are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's please avoid
> posting solicitations and promotions like this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
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From haleysumner at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 24 20:33:41 2014
From: haleysumner at sbcglobal.net (Haley sumner)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:33:41 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No	Matter	Our
	Disability!
In-Reply-To: <9B1A87E8-F495-4884-B29E-3873E52317BE@gmail.com>
References: <53d1611f.e842320a.22f1.008b@mx.google.com>
	<9B1A87E8-F495-4884-B29E-3873E52317BE@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A1052CA2-1257-4A4C-8E6F-A6D31100FE72@sbcglobal.net>

+1

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Bill Dengler via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> +1!
> 
> Bill
>> On Jul 24, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> RJ,
>> 
>> Helga like you and anyone else can share whatever she wants with her friends, but this is a listserve for discussing issues having to do with being a blind student not a social networking site or a bulletin board for posting job opportunities.  Both of those things exist for people who are interested in them, but this is not the place.  I've only been on this list for a couple months, but it's incredibly frustrating to have to read through people's personal messages to each other and then on top of it to be spammed about a pyramid scheme.  Thank you Sean for trying to hold the line!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Karl
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> To: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>,"National Association of Blind Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 14:07:51 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No    
>> Matter    Our Disability!
>> 
>> So you're saying that a blind person Helga, who is getting out there and
>> getting active, can't share with us other blind people what she is wanting
>> to do? Have we become so narrow minded, that we do not take other Ideas into
>> account? Dr. RJ Sandefur
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "justin williams via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> To: "'Sean Whalen'" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>; "'National Association of Blind
>> Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!No Matter
>> Our Disability!
>> 
>> 
>> Where else would one promote a business to blind people who are looking
>> for
>> an opportunity? How about all the jobs that are listed; what is the
>> difference?  With the "seventy percent unemployment rate,," wouldn't a
>> business opportunity, essentially a job, be welcomed provided that the
>> individual does not over do it?  I'm just curious; because the job
>> opportunities probably shouldn't be listed either, even though I would
>> soarly  dislike that.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sean Whalen
>> via
>> nabs-l
>> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:27 PM
>> To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; 'National Association of Blind Students
>> mailing list'
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
>> OurDisability!
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home
>> businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not it. We
>> are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's please avoid
>> posting solicitations and promotions like this.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Sean
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From ligne14 at verizon.net  Thu Jul 24 20:46:52 2014
From: ligne14 at verizon.net (sami osborne)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:46:52 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Intro
Message-ID: <0N9800216HQ348R0@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net>

Hola=20Gerardo,

Bienvenida=20a=20la=20lista!

For=20everybody=20else:=20pardon=20me=20for=20using=20the=20wrong=20languag=
e=20on=20
this=20list...=20=20For=20those=20who=20don't=20know=20Spanish,=20I=20have=
=20said,=20Hi=20
Gerardo,=20welcome=20to=20the=20list!

I=20just=20thought=20since=20I=20know=20Gerardo's=20native=20language,=20it=
=20would=20
be=20nice=20to=20welcome=20him=20here=20in=20Spanish=20before=20English.

By=20the=20way,=20Gerardo,=20I=20think=20it=20would=20be=20really=20nice=20=
if=20you=20tell=20
us=20more=20about=20yourself,=20such=20as=20if=20you=20are=20still=20at=20s=
chool=20or=20
have=20a=20job,=20or,=20if=20you're=20still=20at=20school,=20what=20kind=20=
of=20job=20you=20
would=20like=20to=20be,=20what=20you=20like=20to=20do=20in=20your=20free=20=
time,=20how=20you=20
became=20blind,=20etc...

If=20you=20think=20this=20is=20personal=20information,=20that's=20fine,=20I=
=20just=20
think=20it=20=20would=20be=20nice=20if=20you=20told=20us=20this,=20as=20I=20=
believe=20we=20all=20
like=20to=20know=20about=20our=20new=20members=20to=20the=20list.

I'm=20Sami=20and=20next=20year=20is=20my=20last=20year=20of=20school,=20I=20=
think=20I=20will=20
be=20going=20to=20college=20in=202=20years.
By=20the=20way,=20in=20case=20you're=20wondering=20how=20I=20know=20Spanish=
,=20I=20
studied=20it=20in=20school=20for=209=20and=20a=20half=20years.=20=20By=20th=
e=20way,=20I=20would=20
love=20to=20speak=20with=20actual=20people=20from=20Hispanic=20countries,=20=
so=20that=20
I=20can=20practice=20my=20Spanish.

I=20also=20know=20French=20because=20my=20mother=20is=20from=20France=20and=
=20we=20also=20
go=20there=20every=20summer.

I=20also=20would=20like=20to=20be=20a=20language=20interpreter=20or=20teach=
er=20in=20the=20
future.

I=20look=20ward=20to=20here=20your=20comments=20to=20the=20list.=20=20I'm=20=
sure=20you=20will=20
enjoy=20all=20our=20conversations.

Thanks,

Sami.

Pdds.=20=20Helga,=20to=20answer=20your=20question,=20check=20out=20Gerardo'=
s=20email=20
signature.=20=20In=20case=20you=20haven't=20noticed,=20it=20is=20in=20Spani=
sh=20and=20
from=20what=20I=20observed,=20I=20believe=20he=20lives=20somewhere=20in=20M=
exico.

Hope=20this=20helps.

=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Gerardo=20Corripio=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Wed,=2023=20Jul=202014=2021:49:36=20-0500
Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20Intro

=20=20HI=20guys
I've=20been=20off/on=20on=20here,=20so=20maybe=20some=20of=20you=20might=20=
remember=20me?=20
For
those=20who=20don't=20or=20are=20new,=20I'm=20Gerardo,=20kind=20of=20old=20=
nearly=2037,=20
but
remember=20what=20it=20was=20like=20being=20a=20blind=20student,=20thus=20I=
=20hope=20to=20
enrich
from=20my=20experiences=20on=20here.=20=20I=20might=20not=20know=20how=20te=
chnology=20
school
loans=20are=20handled=20nowadays,=20or=20what=20kind=20of=20technology=20us=
ed=20in=20
the
classroom=20since=20i=20was=20a=20student=20in=20the=2090s,=20but=20neverth=
eless=20I=20
hope=20I
can=20provide=20at=20least=20some=20grain=20of=20salt=20on=20here=20that's=
=20useful.

--
Enviado=20desde=20mi=20lap
Gerardo=20J=20Corripio=20Flores=20Psic=F3logo,=20Terap=E9uta=20Reiki
Saludos=20desde=20Tampico,=20Tamaulipas=20M=E9xico
RompiendoBarreras=20espacio=20de=20psicolog=EDa/Superaci=F3n=20Personal=20
S=E1bados=2010PM=20M=E9xico=20http://radiogeneral.com=20=A1los=20esperamos!=



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izon.net



From gera1027 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 21:13:16 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:13:16 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] A bit on myself
Message-ID: <53D176EC.80806@gmail.com>

  HI guys, especially what a surprise that Sony welcomed me in Spanish! 
Thanks for this welcome! Anyway a bit on myself, with apologies of not 
wanting to sound like an autobiography: I was born October 27 1977 here 
in Tampico in the gulf of Mexico; I was premature at 28 weeks, thus my 
blindness was because of having too much oxygen in the incubator. I also 
have a 70% hearing loss, not knowing exactly what caused it of being 
premature, or of an maltreated ear infection when I was around five or 
six; I've been using hearing aids for almost 28 years to try compensate. 
Even though I hear kind of OK, I can't be out on my own on the streets 
because I can't distinguish right/left and other audio cues. Anyway time 
passed, and my folks began to worry how i'd go to school, especially 
because they say I was very curious and very active; wanting to 
learn/explore the world! Let me share a little story I remember when I 
was around three or so if I may before continuing with my minibiography: 
I made a hole in the stereo's speakers thinking that the voices I heard 
from the children's records (those big ones that used a needle to play) 
were actual people! Anyway continuing with my story: My parents (this 
was in the beginning of the eighties) started looking for a blind school 
in different cities here in Mexico, but they weren't so convinced of how 
they treated the kids, and upon a suggestion of a family friend, they 
left everything and moved to the US, where I attended school up to high 
school, learned the blindness stuff, started on technology, thus 
prepared me for confronting the real world. However I always had this 
longing to come back, especially to help better the quality of life of 
the blind here in my country, and thanks to the internet now, maybe 
worldwide,but more on that later. I now see how important is everything 
I was taught as a student, but OK maybe they didn't teach me some basics 
like the Slate/Stylus, or maybe my parents didn't have appropriate 
orientation/support by other blind adults on real expectations, but at 
least I learned the basics, right? Thanks to these, I returned here, 
feeling very prepared thanks to what I'd learned in school in the US, to 
begin the adventure of changing the way of the blind here in Mexico! I 
started university here in my hometown, being the first ever blind 
Psychology major to graduate; yes many obstacles like not knowing (this 
was in around the late 90s early 2000 when the Internet was just 
starting) how to adapt psychological tests, thus I feel maybe I didn't 
get all I could have of my studies because of the teachers not knowing 
how to adapt classes like Psychological testing and others, but at least 
I tried getting out what I could. My thesis was on the Adaptive process 
blind adults have to endure in order to accept blindness if that's of 
interest mentioning on here since it's a Student list.
I don't know if it happened to you guys when graduating from college, 
but several months I was kind of depressed of OK now I'm done studying, 
what do I do? I clearly remember those weeks/months upon graduation how 
time was very very slow! Stay tuned! In another EMail (I think I've made 
this long enough but hope not to bore you guys, rather enrich) I'll 
continue my story.

-- 
Enviado desde mi lap
Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!



From gera1027 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 21:26:21 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:26:21 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] SecondParte of my story
Message-ID: <53D179FD.1030402@gmail.com>

  OK now the second part of my story; let's hope this enriches you as 
students, to take all the opportunities you can: Anyway weeks/months 
upon graduation from college, I was kind of "OK and now what do I do 
with all I've learned? My parents had plans to put a private practice 
for me, I started a graduate degree in Gestalt/Humanistic therapy, but 
we moved because of my Dad's job two months after starting it here in my 
hometown, to another city, but the experiences in the new city (even 
though supposedly it was the same Institute) was horrible! So bad was 
that the last day of the course (I and my parents thought it'd be best 
for me to drop out) or maybe days after, my blood pressure was way up to 
180 over something, thus this time I was really BAD AS if having dropped 
out was the end of the world! Any of you ever felt this way? The 
director in the school where we moved was awful; he never fully believed 
in my abilities; he kept on saying I wasn't prepared when in the school 
here in my hometown the staff was amazed how apt I was at this kind of 
therapy! Anyway to make a long story short, so I was now very very 
depressed, not knowing what to do since my dream was to become a 
Humanistic/Gestalt therapist and start a private practice.
OK so weeks passed by when I was in a limbo state, and Reiki came into 
my life to save my sanity! I began taking Reiki first Degree, got to 
know and enjoy the group, went to weekly Reiki sessions where we gave 
Reiki to each other, completed the second Degree course, and again 
another move! thanks to my Dad's job!
So to Mexico City we went, where

o taking the chance I was in the country's capital where supposedly the best for the blind is, I took a course on Daily Living skills, in case my parents, God forbid but I'm very conscious it can happen, are no longer with me, I know at least how to do basic things around the house.
Enviado desde mi lap
Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!



From smwhalenpsp at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 21:56:58 2014
From: smwhalenpsp at gmail.com (Sean Whalen)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:56:58 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us
	Can	Do!No	Matter	Our Disability!
Message-ID: <030001cfa78a$32c60f40$98522dc0$@gmail.com>

Good afternoon,

It seems that perhaps there may have been a bit of confusion about my last
message on this topic. Let me clarify, and then let's move on.

Talking about business and entrepreneurship are not problems. Talking about
technology is not a problem. Talking about any number of blindness-related
issues is just fine. Anybody who has been on this list for any period of
time surely knows that a very wide range of topics are discussed here. That
is great. What is a problem, and will not be tolerated on list, is
advertising one's own personal business that is not related to providing a
product or service of particular interest to blind students or the blind in
general. If people don't see how that is different than posting job
opportunities in the blindness field or where companies have specific
initiatives to hire blind students, email me off list and I'll do my best to
explain. Likewise, if anybody has a problem with this prohibition you know
my email address and I'd be glad to sort it out with you off line.

Peter, I asked you off list to stop. I asked you on list to stop. If you
persist in spamming the list with your unbelievably over the top statements
about how this networking opportunity is going to obliterate unemployment
among the blind and render university education unnecessary I'm going to
have David Andrews remove you. Knock it off.

This list can be an incredibly valuable resource for all of us. But when we
have personal contact requests, shoutouts and other spam, we drive potential
contributors and beneficiaries alike off the list. I don't want that, and
don't think any of us do. If you want somebody to contact you off list,
email them directly. We don't all need to know. And when you send messages
to the list, just be mindful of their relevance. People connect and make
friends on list. That is awesome. But just ask yourself when you send a
message if this is something that more than one person will be interested
in. If not, please just send the message to that one interested person.

I'm not trying to be harsh or restrict the flow of conversation and
information sharing. I just want to maintain this list as a valuable place
where blind students can ask questions, find answers and engage in
discussion about blindness and related issues.

Thanks for reading and keeping this in mind.

Take care,

Sean

Sean Whalen
President, National Association of Blind Students.




From smwhalenpsp at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 22:00:44 2014
From: smwhalenpsp at gmail.com (Sean Whalen)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:00:44 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us
	Can	Do!No	Matter	Our Disability!
In-Reply-To: <0FCC20E741C843D68764D584E8FF3917@peted2AB964BD1>
References: <012601cfa766$38fa8a40$aaef9ec0$@gmail.com>
	<0FCC20E741C843D68764D584E8FF3917@peted2AB964BD1>
Message-ID: <000e01cfa78a$b9eebcb0$2dcc3610$@gmail.com>

Like I said on list, drop it or you're gone.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Peter Donahue
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:29 PM
To: justin williams; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!No Matter
Our Disability!

Good afternoon again everyone,

    Here we are trying to promote independence and self-sufficiency for the
blind and those attempting to do just that get slammed for sharing a way for
those that choose to participate to achieve these goals. The very
organization that is supposed to be promoting independence and self
sufficiency among the blind is to thank for squelching such efforts
undertaken by blind individuals and continuing to promote continued
dependency on Governmental programs. This is very wrong!

    If getting involved in a networking business allows one to raise money
to fund one's education they should be permitted to invite others to learn
about it. With the increasing number of sighted students seeking to create
multiple income sources blind students need to do the same. I have seen this
happen on a number of NFB Lists including the Blind Entrepreneur's List and
strongly urge NABS and our other affiliates to stop it!If raising awareness
about becoming an entrepreneur, developing a business opportunity, and
inviting others to do the same will mean that a blind student can persue the
career of their choice without any involvement by a state VR agency they
need to know that such opportunities are available to them. If building a
network business would enable a blind student to fund training at an NFB
Center they need to know how to do so. If having a large number of blind
students involved in network marketing will mean substantial increases to
the PAC Plan, increased funding for NABS, new NFB Scholarships, a decrease
in the number of unemployed blind persons, the creation of a 24-hour
broadcast service that carries information of interest to the blind that
does not extract funds from other NFB activities and programs, there needs
to be large numbers of blind entrepreneurs in our ranks building networking
and other businesses. The time is now. Also let's not forget that some of us
go to college to study Business Administration and other business-related
courses. For these reasons a discussion of such opportunities is very
appropriate for this and other employment-related NFB Lists.

    We have been around professional networking since 1977 and know first
hand about the blind gentleman who achieved a high level of success in a
networking business long before the many technological advances available to
us today were around. Other blind individuals need to learn of his success
and follow in his lead in large numbers to spread the wealth around and put
a big dent in the unemployment of the blind by being job creators not just
job seekers.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message -----
From: "justin williams via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Sean Whalen'" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>; "'National Association of Blind
Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!No Matter
Our Disability!


> Where else would one promote a business to blind people who are 
> looking for an opportunity? How about all the jobs that are listed; 
> what is the difference?  With the "seventy percent unemployment 
> rate,," wouldn't a business opportunity, essentially a job, be 
> welcomed provided that the individual does not over do it?  I'm just 
> curious; because the job opportunities probably shouldn't be listed 
> either, even though I would soarly  dislike that.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sean 
> Whalen via nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:27 PM
> To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; 'National Association of Blind 
> Students mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No 
> Matter OurDisability!
>
> Hi all,
>
> Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home 
> businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not 
> it. We are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's 
> please avoid posting solicitations and promotions like this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
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From gera1027 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 22:42:00 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:42:00 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] final part of who I am
Message-ID: <53D18BB8.4020302@gmail.com>

  OK so in the last part, I was in Mexico City taking a course on Daily 
Living Skills; I looked for opportunities to be a Psychologist at the 
blindness center where I took the course, but nothing came up; I tried 
opening up a private practice, but nothing.
So taking the opportunity that my Dad resigned from his job (too much 
stress and he hardly spent time with us as a family because of the 
workload), at last we came back to my hometown! where I opened up a 
private practice, took more graduate courses, still can't find work even 
though I'm still trying, so I pass the time by colaborating on an online 
radio Station, RadioGeneral, doing a Psychology program whose info is on 
my signature in case you guys know enough Spanish to give it a listen, 
and maybe learn something interesting, I'm also into technology, doing a 
technology podcast also, thus that's one of my hobbies, but I have to do 
with what technology I have (an IPhone, my laptop with Jaws and 
WindowEyes) and the programs I have to do these, and another one of my 
hobbies, try to help blind people and help them make a difference, 
experience of which I'll talk in another EMail.
My hobbies apart from technology, especially listening to technology 
podcasts, blindness technology overall, I really like reading: 
psychology books, also books on Personal Achievement and self-help are 
my favorite; a bit of Science Fiction, Romance but not because I'm a 
she, but to gather experiences on OK how would a woman handle divorce, 
or other problems, that would allow me to have more empathy with 
patients. I also really like meeting new people, especially 
English-speaking to continue practice my English, and to maybe enrich 
from my experiences, and vice versa of course.
So there's a bit of myself, hope to gain more insight, and to enrich on 
here from what I lived, and maybe in between the lines, I could give out 
some ideas?
Thanks again for the welcome!

-- 
Enviado desde mi lap
Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!



From gera1027 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 24 23:47:42 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:47:42 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Feeling kind of left out
Message-ID: <53D19B1E.7000709@gmail.com>

  HI guys
As I said in my intro, I like the idea of helping out other blind people 
in bettering their quality of life, thus I willingly in December, 
accepted the proposal of a "friend" (note the quotes; you'll see whhy in 
a bit), of going to a meeting in which forming a blindness association 
would be discussed; from the start, these guys had very ambitious 
projects (bringing in specialized blindness psychologists to  help in 
rehabilitation for instance) when I thought while the meeting 
progressed, isn't the goal of any blindness association, work with what 
one already has? I thought if I'm a psychologist, and blind, what better 
deal! So I gave an improvised speech of why I'd be a good candidate to 
fulfill the job of Psychologist, to which they said "yes" and I began 
getting excited; at last I'd have something productive to do! Also an 
alternative I gave in the meantime was to give English to the members, 
thus Yes I wouldn't get paid at the start, but nevertheless at least to 
fulfill a lifelong dream of helping out the blind psychologically and 
maybe culturally speaking!
OK so the weeks past by; I began looking for info that could possibly be 
of interest because it was or being a Psychologist or teaching english; 
I asked and asked because I wanted to know what i'd do, but they never 
gave an answer; now that I think about it, they made me feel like if I 
were a poor blind guy, and the Association wanted to teach me from the 
start things I already knew! They wanted to mold me to their ways, 
especially in wanting me to help standing around in the downtown plaza 
or square, and sell stuffed apples? I spoke out, and said if you guys 
want to have a blindness Association and promote stereotypes, well 
that's not my way of thinking; they'd be able to do activities more at 
my level like maybe giving talks and others, right? So the weeks past 
on, I kept on bugging, on OK while I wait for a response, what can I 
help out with? Since I'm good with Twitter, I offered my help in 
managing the Associaion'Associatino'Association's Twitter feed, they 
said no; until they got tired of not wanting to mold to their style, and 
I got kicked out, and unfortunately or fortunately, the association 
leaders, are going around telling everyone what a bad guy I am etc etc. 
Have you guys in your working of maybe volunteer, come across these 
people, that even though you have blindness skills in check, they make 
you feel kind of left out, or inferior? What a bad feeling!

-- 
Enviado desde mi lap
Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!



From arielle71 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 00:10:51 2014
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:10:51 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] voting
In-Reply-To: <53d15d67.e949320a.43db.ffff9f2c@mx.google.com>
References: <53d15d67.e949320a.43db.ffff9f2c@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CALAYQJC68tOnCBD6c00wGx_PWnbTOCVgZVNCGbtNN-Jr45BCEg@mail.gmail.com>

Arizona's absentee ballots were in Braille, and that's how I voted in
2004, before HAVA. You should find out if your state has Braille
ballots.
I have had great experiences using accessible voting machines in the
polling place on my university campus when I was in Colorado. College
campuses might be better about voting machine setup than the other
voting booths.

That said, I actually preferred the Braille ballot, and if I still
lived in AZ I'd use that.
Arielle

On 7/24/14, Karl Martin Adam via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hello Sophie,
>
> Something I did the first time I was old enough to vote that
> might help you is to go to my city clerk's office and ask this
> question to the clerk.  Not only is this a good way of finding
> out how things are done in your state (as Elizabeth says they
> vary), but because I then had a personal relationship with the
> clerk she made sure that the accessible machine at my poling
> place was set up, and I've never had a problem voting.  When they
> know ahead of time that a blind person wants to vote, election
> workers tend to be more than happy to accommodate them, but for
> instance where I live there are seven precincts, and there's only
> one other blind person who uses the accessible machines.
> Absentee ballots as far as I know are never in Braille.  Some
> states are moving to online voting though, and I know the NFB is
> working to try to make that accessible.
>
> I hope you have a great first experience voting!
>
> Best,
> Karl
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sophie Trist via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: nabs <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 11:52:25 -0500
> Subject: [nabs-l] voting
>
> NABS friends,
>
> I'm turning eighteen this fall, just in time to vote in my
> state's senatorial elections. And I was wondering, how do blind
> people vote? D we enter a voting booth with a friend or pole
> worker and just tell them what buttons to push? I might be making
> this up, but I might have heard something once about how blind
> people can get absentee ballots sent to them in braille. Thanks
> in advance for your answers!
>
> Yours sincerely,
> Sophie
>
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Fri Jul 25 02:01:47 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:01:47 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No	Matter	Our
	Disability!
In-Reply-To: <0FCC20E741C843D68764D584E8FF3917@peted2AB964BD1>
References: <012601cfa766$38fa8a40$aaef9ec0$@gmail.com>
	<0FCC20E741C843D68764D584E8FF3917@peted2AB964BD1>
Message-ID: <B6FFFBB4F44F4502BE0D24EA89439EB6@OwnerPC>

Peter,

While I agree with some of your points such as the value of starting 
businesses, to devalue the  benefits of going to college on a student list 
is wrong. True college degrees at the undergrad level are not as significant 
as they once were, but they still help you obtain and maintain employment.
I certainly agree that the economic situation makes times uncertain, but 
working for others is still feasible. I see no stats proving the economic 
downturn produces a rise in business ownership.

I saw no harm in Helga's post either since we also have job announcements. 
But we need to respect the leader's decision.

An alternative to posting your announcements of networking meetings here 
might be to put a brief message on what you are doing; like a sentence or 
two at the end of your posts and invite people to learn more by visiting 
your facebook page or live journal page or some social network site.
So, I hope you can move on and not be so negative. We have a wide variety of 
topics here which is great, but not self promotion.

I also suggest that if you are so passionate, peter, that you start your own 
list serv for such topics.

Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: Peter Donahue via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 4:28 PM
To: justin williams ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us CanDo!No Matter Our 
Disability!

Good afternoon again everyone,

    Here we are trying to promote independence and self-sufficiency for the
blind and those attempting to do just that get slammed for sharing a way for
those that choose to participate to achieve these goals. The very
organization that is supposed to be promoting independence and self
sufficiency among the blind is to thank for squelching such efforts
undertaken by blind individuals and continuing to promote continued
dependency on Governmental programs. This is very wrong!

    If getting involved in a networking business allows one to raise money
to fund one's education they should be permitted to invite others to learn
about it. With the increasing number of sighted students seeking to create
multiple income sources blind students need to do the same. I have seen this
happen on a number of NFB Lists including the Blind Entrepreneur's List and
strongly urge NABS and our other affiliates to stop it!If raising awareness
about becoming an entrepreneur, developing a business opportunity, and
inviting others to do the same will mean that a blind student can persue the
career of their choice without any involvement by a state VR agency they
need to know that such opportunities are available to them. If building a
network business would enable a blind student to fund training at an NFB
Center they need to know how to do so. If having a large number of blind
students involved in network marketing will mean substantial increases to
the PAC Plan, increased funding for NABS, new NFB Scholarships, a decrease
in the number of unemployed blind persons, the creation of a 24-hour
broadcast service that carries information of interest to the blind that
does not extract funds from other NFB activities and programs, there needs
to be large numbers of blind entrepreneurs in our ranks building networking
and other businesses. The time is now. Also let's not forget that some of us
go to college to study Business Administration and other business-related
courses. For these reasons a discussion of such opportunities is very
appropriate for this and other employment-related NFB Lists.

    We have been around professional networking since 1977 and know first
hand about the blind gentleman who achieved a high level of success in a
networking business long before the many technological advances available to
us today were around. Other blind individuals need to learn of his success
and follow in his lead in large numbers to spread the wealth around and put
a big dent in the unemployment of the blind by being job creators not just
job seekers.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "justin williams via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Sean Whalen'" <smwhalenpsp at gmail.com>; "'National Association of Blind
Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do!No Matter
Our Disability!


> Where else would one promote a business to blind people who are looking 
> for
> an opportunity? How about all the jobs that are listed; what is the
> difference?  With the "seventy percent unemployment rate,," wouldn't a
> business opportunity, essentially a job, be welcomed provided that the
> individual does not over do it?  I'm just curious; because the job
> opportunities probably shouldn't be listed either, even though I would
> soarly  dislike that.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sean Whalen 
> via
> nabs-l
> Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 1:27 PM
> To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; 'National Association of Blind Students
> mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Networking Business That All of Us Can Do! No Matter
> OurDisability!
>
> Hi all,
>
> Let's please remember that this list has a purpose. Promoting our home
> businesses that have absolutely nothing to do with blindness is not it. We
> are pretty flexible about what is discussed here, but let's please avoid
> posting solicitations and promotions like this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 02:13:58 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:13:58 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Sean
Message-ID: <36ADD6E5EE7840FF98BE3051FCF0CA5F@Helga>

Hi Sean! How are you? I just would like to speak with you off list. However, I actually don't know your email address. Would it be possible for you to write me off list? I will really appreciate it a lot! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much and God bless! 
Helga Schreiber 

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research 

Phone: (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 

From trillian551 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 02:24:42 2014
From: trillian551 at gmail.com (Mary Fernandez)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:24:42 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Sean
In-Reply-To: <36ADD6E5EE7840FF98BE3051FCF0CA5F@Helga>
References: <36ADD6E5EE7840FF98BE3051FCF0CA5F@Helga>
Message-ID: <6601ED36-B8AD-485F-A8D1-9300DF927C69@gmail.com>

Sean's email address is nabspresident at gmail.com. You can find anyone's email address at the very top of an email message.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Helga  via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sean! How are you? I just would like to speak with you off list. However, I actually don't know your email address. Would it be possible for you to write me off list? I will really appreciate it a lot! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much and God bless! 
> Helga Schreiber 
> 
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
> Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research 
> 
> Phone: (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 25 02:42:42 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:42:42 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Sean
In-Reply-To: <6601ED36-B8AD-485F-A8D1-9300DF927C69@gmail.com>
References: <36ADD6E5EE7840FF98BE3051FCF0CA5F@Helga>
	<6601ED36-B8AD-485F-A8D1-9300DF927C69@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL401-EAS20996602E08A126DD194602BAFC0@phx.gbl>

Hi Mary,

Actually, because of the new email header, the email address of the person
who sent the message to the email list no longer appears at the top of the
email message. There was a big discussion about this during the national
convention. I know with Outlook, the individual email address appears before
the list email address in the address line, but I have been told by other
people who use other computer devices that this does not appear to be the
same for everyone.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary Fernandez
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:25 PM
To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com; National Association of Blind Students
mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] This Message is for Sean

Sean's email address is nabspresident at gmail.com. You can find anyone's email
address at the very top of an email message.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Helga  via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sean! How are you? I just would like to speak with you off list.
However, I actually don't know your email address. Would it be possible for
you to write me off list? I will really appreciate it a lot! Hope to hear
from you soon. Thanks so much and God bless! 
> Helga Schreiber
> 
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter 
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
> Blind Students Member of The International Networkers Team (INT) 
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research
> 
> Phone: (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 
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From kmaent1 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 02:45:44 2014
From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:45:44 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Sean
Message-ID: <53d1c4ea.86648c0a.1e42.00d4@mx.google.com>

Also, If you reply to a message and look at the "to" field you'll 
see both the e-mail of the person whose message your replying to 
and the address for the list.  Just delete the list address, and 
you'll be replying just to the person you want to reply to.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Fernandez via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com" 
<helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>,National Association of Blind 
Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:24:42 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] This Message is for Sean

Sean's email address is nabspresident at gmail.com. You can find 
anyone's email address at the very top of an email message.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Helga  via nabs-l 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 Hi Sean! How are you? I just would like to speak with you off 
list. However, I actually don't know your email address. Would it 
be possible for you to write me off list? I will really 
appreciate it a lot! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much 
and God bless!
 Helga Schreiber

 Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota 
chapter
 Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida 
Association of Blind Students
 Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
 Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

 Phone: (561) 706-5950
 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
 Skype: helga.schreiber26
 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
 INT Website: http://int4life.com/

 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, 
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal 
life." John 3:16
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From bridgetawalker13 at aol.com  Fri Jul 25 02:47:34 2014
From: bridgetawalker13 at aol.com (Bridget Walker)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:47:34 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] A bit on myself
In-Reply-To: <53D176EC.80806@gmail.com>
References: <53D176EC.80806@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <172378AE-BB8E-4F37-998F-E43FB4268319@aol.com>

Hi and welcome to the list.
I am not great at Spanish but I find your interest in making psychological tests accessible interesting. I am an special education major. I plan to work with students who have very debilitating disabilities. With this in mind, part of my job is to assess my students intelligence quotient. Do you have any tips? 
I know my college teaches the Wexler as one of the major tests. 
My vision is very compromised. I have light  and motion most of the time. How do you administer and evaluate these tests? I can not track down an accessible IQ test anywhere.
I hope to hear any advice. 
Best.
Bridget

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 24, 26 Heisei, at 5:13 PM, Gerardo Corripio via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> HI guys, especially what a surprise that Sony welcomed me in Spanish! Thanks for this welcome! Anyway a bit on myself, with apologies of not wanting to sound like an autobiography: I was born October 27 1977 here in Tampico in the gulf of Mexico; I was premature at 28 weeks, thus my blindness was because of having too much oxygen in the incubator. I also have a 70% hearing loss, not knowing exactly what caused it of being premature, or of an maltreated ear infection when I was around five or six; I've been using hearing aids for almost 28 years to try compensate. Even though I hear kind of OK, I can't be out on my own on the streets because I can't distinguish right/left and other audio cues. Anyway time passed, and my folks began to worry how i'd go to school, especially because they say I was very curious and very active; wanting to learn/explore the world! Let me share a little story I remember when I was around three or so if I may before continuing with my minibiography: I made a hole in the stereo's speakers thinking that the voices I heard from the children's records (those big ones that used a needle to play) were actual people! Anyway continuing with my story: My parents (this was in the beginning of the eighties) started looking for a blind school in different cities here in Mexico, but they weren't so convinced of how they treated the kids, and upon a suggestion of a family friend, they left everything and moved to the US, where I attended school up to high school, learned the blindness stuff, started on technology, thus prepared me for confronting the real world. However I always had this longing to come back, especially to help better the quality of life of the blind here in my country, and thanks to the internet now, maybe worldwide,but more on that later. I now see how important is everything I was taught as a student, but OK maybe they didn't teach me some basics like the Slate/Stylus, or maybe my parents didn't have appropriate orientation/support by other blind adults on real expectations, but at least I learned the basics, right? Thanks to these, I returned here, feeling very prepared thanks to what I'd learned in school in the US, to begin the adventure of changing the way of the blind here in Mexico! I started university here in my hometown, being the first ever blind Psychology major to graduate; yes many obstacles like not knowing (this was in around the late 90s early 2000 when the Internet was just starting) how to adapt psychological tests, thus I feel maybe I didn't get all I could have of my studies because of the teachers not knowing how to adapt classes like Psychological testing and others, but at least I tried getting out what I could. My thesis was on the Adaptive process blind adults have to endure in order to accept blindness if that's of interest mentioning on here since it's a Student list.
> I don't know if it happened to you guys when graduating from college, but several months I was kind of depressed of OK now I'm done studying, what do I do? I clearly remember those weeks/months upon graduation how time was very very slow! Stay tuned! In another EMail (I think I've made this long enough but hope not to bore you guys, rather enrich) I'll continue my story.
> 
> -- 
> Enviado desde mi lap
> Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
> Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
> RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!
> 
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From lizmohnke at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 25 02:57:28 2014
From: lizmohnke at hotmail.com (Elizabeth Mohnke)
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:57:28 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Sean
In-Reply-To: <53d1c4ea.86648c0a.1e42.00d4@mx.google.com>
References: <53d1c4ea.86648c0a.1e42.00d4@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <COL401-EAS42012D06B2C8C082894C2E1BAFC0@phx.gbl>

Hi Karl,

This was what I was referring to in my previous message, but apparently it
is displayed differently for those who use other devices such as Apple
computers, IPhones and Braille note takers. Or at least this is what I was
told when we had the discussion about it during the national convention.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Karl Martin
Adam via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:46 PM
To: Mary Fernandez; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] This Message is for Sean

Also, If you reply to a message and look at the "to" field you'll see both
the e-mail of the person whose message your replying to and the address for
the list.  Just delete the list address, and you'll be replying just to the
person you want to reply to.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Fernandez via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com" 
<helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>,National Association of Blind Students mailing
list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org Date sent: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:24:42 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] This Message is for Sean

Sean's email address is nabspresident at gmail.com. You can find anyone's email
address at the very top of an email message.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 24, 2014, at 10:13 PM, Helga  via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 Hi Sean! How are you? I just would like to speak with you off list.
However, I actually don't know your email address. Would it be possible for
you to write me off list? I will really appreciate it a lot! Hope to hear
from you soon. Thanks so much and God bless!
 Helga Schreiber

 Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind
Students  Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)  Independent
Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

 Phone: (561) 706-5950
 Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
 Skype: helga.schreiber26
 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
 INT Website: http://int4life.com/

 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
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From gera1027 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 17:50:57 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:50:57 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Seeking experiences with Keynote Gold with Spanish?
Message-ID: <53D29901.2070300@gmail.com>

  HI guys
I'd like to imagine you guys use BrailleNote Apex for school? OK back in 
its time, while in the US, I used Keysoft first in it's PC-card version 
in which you got a PC card and you put it inside the CPU; then I got it 
on a Laptop with the external synthesizer, and lastly before having to 
return it to school upon graduation, via the Keynote Companion product; 
all this time, I'I used it with the Keynote Gold voice, voice that I 
haven't been able to find anywhere else, until in a few days when I'll 
get an Apex; it'll be used but nevertheless something to nothing?
Anyway, back to my original question: on several podcasts I've been 
listening from the website BrailleNote Users at 
http://www.braillenoteusers.info/media I'm delighted to hear that one 
can use Keynote Gold on Apex? Mine will have Keysoft's latest, and I'd 
use it for both, English and Spanish, thus my wondering if you guys use 
Keynote Gold for Spanish, what's your experiences both good or bad? 
Thanks for info.

-- 
Enviado desde mi lap
Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!



From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 25 18:12:45 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:12:45 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Matilda Ziegler Magazine update
Message-ID: <53d29e33.261fec0a.1a49.7c4b@mx.google.com>

Hi Nabs members hope you are doing well.  This is a message from 
the Matilda Zeigler Magazine for the Blind.

 ---- Original Message ------
From: "Matilda Ziegler Magazine for the Blind" 
<editor at matildaziegler.com
Subject: Matilda Ziegler Magazine
Date sent: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 04:00:06 +1000

July 25, 2014

As you are aware the Matilda Ziegler Magazine for the Blind has 
been suspended for the past several months pending a review by 
the Board of Directors of The E.  Matilda Ziegler Foundation for 
the Blind.  Considerable time was spent evaluating its substance, 
breadth of distribution, and readers' responses.  With heavy 
heart the directors voted to discontinue the weekly magazine and 
use the Foundation's resources solely for scientific research 
through grants to highly innovative medical researchers who are 
making important advances in vision research.

We've come a long way from when my great grandmother, Electa 
Matilda Ziegler, founded the magazine in 1907 with the goal of 
producing reading material for the blind "as much as possible 
like that published for the seeing." Raised type books of the era 
were expensive, and the freely circulated magazine helped to fill 
an information void.

Today's blind and those with visual impairment can obtain books 
and magazines in Braille, on cassette, and in DVD or CD format 
from the National Library Service and the American Foundation for 
the Blind.  Radio, television, internet, and commercially 
produced audio books have all become accessible, and provide 
resources that could not have been imagined in 1907.

Your emails and letters show that we've touched the lives of 
thousands of blind and vision impaired people.  The Matilda 
Ziegler Magazine for the Blind was once described by Helen Keller 
as a "godsend," and Mark Twain described it as "one of the 
noblest benefactions of his lifetime." We hope to realize a 
medical breakthrough that will be worthy of the same praise.

On behalf of the E.  Matilda Ziegler Foundation Board I sincerely 
thank you for your loyal readership over our many years.

Cynthia Ziegler Brighton
President


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From rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 14:24:58 2014
From: rahul.bajaj1038 at gmail.com (Rahul Bajaj)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:54:58 +0530
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
Message-ID: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I hope this message finds you well.
I am a law student and am currently interning at a law firm in New Delhi, India.
One problem that I have often encountered is that it is very difficult
to remain focused for a very long time period -- 8 to 9 hours -- at a
stretch.
My sighted colleagues often go for a walk for a few minutes to get
some fresh air, but that is not a very feasible option for me.
Even though I use my cane outside the office for navigating, as a
matter of practice, I don't use it within the office as I've gotten
fairly adept at navigating within the office without the cane.
So, has anyone else faced this problem? What strategies would you
recommend for getting a break from work?

Best,
Rahul


From carlymih at comcast.net  Sat Jul 26 15:33:29 2014
From: carlymih at comcast.net (Carly Mihalakis)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 08:33:29 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
In-Reply-To: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.g
	mail.com>
References: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.108.1772982278.2863824.nabs-l_nfbnet.org@nfbnet.org>

Good morning, Rahul,

         First off, I M so heartened in hearing of your stepping away 
from your work or from your dense reading to loosen your brain a 
little, making for better retention maybe?
As for taking walks during these breaks, why not hook up with one of 
your colleagues to walk with you? Keep in mind your objective here, 
it isn't to prove any kind of point, you just wanna give your "eyes" 
a break just like your colleagues. So, then, there oughtn't be a 
problem with asking some dude or some chick even to go for a walk. 
And, it needn't be anything out of the ordinary. Just a walk. You 
know, really casual and natural? Please keep us posted, Rahul?
for today, Car

okay helps 5`5it from becoming too monotonous! I wish more career 
students could learn this.
                 Hi all,

>I hope this message finds you well.
>I am a law student and am currently interning at a law firm in New 
>Delhi, India.
>One problem that I have often encountered is that it is very difficult
>to remain focused for a very long time period -- 8 to 9 hours -- at a
>stretch.
>My sighted colleagues often go for a walk for a few minutes to get
>some fresh air, but that is not a very feasible option for me.
>Even though I use my cane outside the office for navigating, as a
>matter of practice, I don't use it within the office as I've gotten
>fairly adept at navigating within the office without the cane.
>So, has anyone else faced this problem? What strategies would you
>recommend for getting a break from work?
>
>Best,
>Rahul
>
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From kirt.crazydude at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 15:43:03 2014
From: kirt.crazydude at gmail.com (Kirt)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:43:03 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
In-Reply-To: <53d3ca72.441ae00a.1be4.ffffb062SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
References: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.gmail.com>
	<53d3ca72.441ae00a.1be4.ffffb062SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <F378F37A-409D-400E-9586-201B12169E8D@gmail.com>

Carly,
That works… unless you're like me and you need a break from your colleagues/coworkers every now and again. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 26, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Good morning, Rahul,
> 
>        First off, I M so heartened in hearing of your stepping away from your work or from your dense reading to loosen your brain a little, making for better retention maybe?
> As for taking walks during these breaks, why not hook up with one of your colleagues to walk with you? Keep in mind your objective here, it isn't to prove any kind of point, you just wanna give your "eyes" a break just like your colleagues. So, then, there oughtn't be a problem with asking some dude or some chick even to go for a walk. And, it needn't be anything out of the ordinary. Just a walk. You know, really casual and natural? Please keep us posted, Rahul?
> for today, Car
> 
> okay helps 5`5it from becoming too monotonous! I wish more career students could learn this.
>                Hi all,
> 
>> I hope this message finds you well.
>> I am a law student and am currently interning at a law firm in New Delhi, India.
>> One problem that I have often encountered is that it is very difficult
>> to remain focused for a very long time period -- 8 to 9 hours -- at a
>> stretch.
>> My sighted colleagues often go for a walk for a few minutes to get
>> some fresh air, but that is not a very feasible option for me.
>> Even though I use my cane outside the office for navigating, as a
>> matter of practice, I don't use it within the office as I've gotten
>> fairly adept at navigating within the office without the cane.
>> So, has anyone else faced this problem? What strategies would you
>> recommend for getting a break from work?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Rahul
>> 
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From anjelinac at att.net  Sat Jul 26 16:07:16 2014
From: anjelinac at att.net (Anjelina)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:07:16 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Converting bookshare texts to PDF
Message-ID: <5109ABFC-71A5-46B6-B607-38DB2EC013A8@att.net>

Hi all,
I have a textbook that's on Bookshare. Is there a way to convert from brf format to PDF?
Thanks for any suggestions.


-Anjelina
Sent from my iPad

From kirt.crazydude at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 16:09:06 2014
From: kirt.crazydude at gmail.com (Kirt)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 10:09:06 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Converting bookshare texts to PDF
In-Reply-To: <5109ABFC-71A5-46B6-B607-38DB2EC013A8@att.net>
References: <5109ABFC-71A5-46B6-B607-38DB2EC013A8@att.net>
Message-ID: <B8B7CDB9-DFFF-44C0-B82B-32F1E9A833A1@gmail.com>

Will robobraille do it?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 26, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> I have a textbook that's on Bookshare. Is there a way to convert from brf format to PDF?
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> 
> -Anjelina
> Sent from my iPad
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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Sat Jul 26 16:42:39 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:42:39 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
In-Reply-To: <F378F37A-409D-400E-9586-201B12169E8D@gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.gmail.com>
	<53d3ca72.441ae00a.1be4.ffffb062SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com>
	<F378F37A-409D-400E-9586-201B12169E8D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0FEAB2F1-54D7-477D-BE07-832C79BF0932@jd16.law.harvard.edu>

There's a 20 and 20 rule my sighted friend has to do because she gets headaches from looking at the screen too long. Basically you spend 20 minutes working then 20 seconds just closing your eyes and relaxing. As for longer breaks or just getting out of your office, you'll have to tag along with a colleague, use your lunch break effectively etc. 

Best
Derek 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 26, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Kirt via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Carly,
> That works… unless you're like me and you need a break from your colleagues/coworkers every now and again. :-)
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Good morning, Rahul,
>> 
>>       First off, I M so heartened in hearing of your stepping away from your work or from your dense reading to loosen your brain a little, making for better retention maybe?
>> As for taking walks during these breaks, why not hook up with one of your colleagues to walk with you? Keep in mind your objective here, it isn't to prove any kind of point, you just wanna give your "eyes" a break just like your colleagues. So, then, there oughtn't be a problem with asking some dude or some chick even to go for a walk. And, it needn't be anything out of the ordinary. Just a walk. You know, really casual and natural? Please keep us posted, Rahul?
>> for today, Car
>> 
>> okay helps 5`5it from becoming too monotonous! I wish more career students could learn this.
>>               Hi all,
>> 
>>> I hope this message finds you well.
>>> I am a law student and am currently interning at a law firm in New Delhi, India.
>>> One problem that I have often encountered is that it is very difficult
>>> to remain focused for a very long time period -- 8 to 9 hours -- at a
>>> stretch.
>>> My sighted colleagues often go for a walk for a few minutes to get
>>> some fresh air, but that is not a very feasible option for me.
>>> Even though I use my cane outside the office for navigating, as a
>>> matter of practice, I don't use it within the office as I've gotten
>>> fairly adept at navigating within the office without the cane.
>>> So, has anyone else faced this problem? What strategies would you
>>> recommend for getting a break from work?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
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From kmaent1 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 16:53:55 2014
From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:53:55 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
Message-ID: <53d3dd39.2558320a.711e.719a@mx.google.com>

Hi Rahul,

Is there a good reason for not keeping your cane with you in the 
office?  Whether or not you can navigate without it, if it 
affects your ability to do things like take walks, perhaps you 
should keep it with you.  I've worked in an office environment, 
and it would never have occurred to me not to have my cane with 
me at all times.  If that doesn't work for you, it seems from 
what you've said that you use your cane outside the office, so 
perhaps you could get it from wherever you leave it when you get 
to work and drop it off again when you're finished with your 
walk.

Best,
Karl

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Rahul Bajaj via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:54:58 +0530
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work

Hi all,

I hope this message finds you well.
I am a law student and am currently interning at a law firm in 
New Delhi, India.
One problem that I have often encountered is that it is very 
difficult
to remain focused for a very long time period -- 8 to 9 hours -- 
at a
stretch.
My sighted colleagues often go for a walk for a few minutes to 
get
some fresh air, but that is not a very feasible option for me.
Even though I use my cane outside the office for navigating, as a
matter of practice, I don't use it within the office as I've 
gotten
fairly adept at navigating within the office without the cane.
So, has anyone else faced this problem? What strategies would you
recommend for getting a break from work?

Best,
Rahul

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From blackbyrdfly at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 18:55:39 2014
From: blackbyrdfly at gmail.com (Jamie Principato)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:55:39 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
In-Reply-To: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAE60C03-06EF-496C-B83D-63E8A86DDD3F@gmail.com>

I'm not sure I understand the problem. Why isn't taking a walk to regain focus feasible? If you don't need your cane in the office because you know your way around, why can't you take a walk around the office? If you do use your cane outside the office, why can't you take your cane outside with you and walk a bit? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 26, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Rahul Bajaj via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I hope this message finds you well.
> I am a law student and am currently interning at a law firm in New Delhi, India.
> One problem that I have often encountered is that it is very difficult
> to remain focused for a very long time period -- 8 to 9 hours -- at a
> stretch.
> My sighted colleagues often go for a walk for a few minutes to get
> some fresh air, but that is not a very feasible option for me.
> Even though I use my cane outside the office for navigating, as a
> matter of practice, I don't use it within the office as I've gotten
> fairly adept at navigating within the office without the cane.
> So, has anyone else faced this problem? What strategies would you
> recommend for getting a break from work?
> 
> Best,
> Rahul
> 
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From arielle71 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 26 21:33:28 2014
From: arielle71 at gmail.com (Arielle Silverman)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:33:28 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
In-Reply-To: <BAE60C03-06EF-496C-B83D-63E8A86DDD3F@gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAE60C03-06EF-496C-B83D-63E8A86DDD3F@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALAYQJC36GM6pX4xzJf7XfqSyji+SAacgpRe41+vwP-CbUJRvA@mail.gmail.com>

Agreed. Are you concerned about coworkers treating you badly because
of your cane?
Arielle

On 7/26/14, Jamie Principato via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand the problem. Why isn't taking a walk to regain
> focus feasible? If you don't need your cane in the office because you know
> your way around, why can't you take a walk around the office? If you do use
> your cane outside the office, why can't you take your cane outside with you
> and walk a bit?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Rahul Bajaj via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I hope this message finds you well.
>> I am a law student and am currently interning at a law firm in New Delhi,
>> India.
>> One problem that I have often encountered is that it is very difficult
>> to remain focused for a very long time period -- 8 to 9 hours -- at a
>> stretch.
>> My sighted colleagues often go for a walk for a few minutes to get
>> some fresh air, but that is not a very feasible option for me.
>> Even though I use my cane outside the office for navigating, as a
>> matter of practice, I don't use it within the office as I've gotten
>> fairly adept at navigating within the office without the cane.
>> So, has anyone else faced this problem? What strategies would you
>> recommend for getting a break from work?
>>
>> Best,
>> Rahul
>>
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 14:29:37 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:29:37 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Eyetoons Gift Card
Message-ID: <ABE8E5F9-E0A1-481C-AC40-656785EBEF6D@gmail.com>

Hi everyone! How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, how can I find out how much balance due I have in eyetoons store of my gift card in order to get some songs? I'm just wondering since I got a gift card and I use it, but I can't find out in the etoons store how much money left do I have from it! I will really appreciate it a lot if you can help me with this! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much and God bless! :) 

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

From sweetpeareader at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 16:09:35 2014
From: sweetpeareader at gmail.com (Sophie Trist)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:09:35 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Eyetoons Gift Card
Message-ID: <53d52462.a111ec0a.47fa.0699@mx.google.com>

Helga, just go to settings, then click on the item that says 
"iTunes and app store." Click on the button that says "Apple 
ID,", then type in your password. That's how you access all info 
pertaining to your iTunes account.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Helga Schreiber via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "nabs-l at nfbnet.org" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:29:37 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Eyetoons Gift Card

Hi everyone! How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, how can I 
find out how much balance due I have in eyetoons store of my gift 
card in order to get some songs? I'm just wondering since I got a 
gift card and I use it, but I can't find out in the etoons store 
how much money left do I have from it! I will really appreciate 
it a lot if you can help me with this! Hope to hear from you 
soon. Thanks so much and God bless! :)

Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota 
chapter.
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida 
Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, 
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal 
life." John 3:16
Sent from my iPhone
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From gera1027 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 16:24:04 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:24:04 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Youtube and finding consecutive parts
Message-ID: <53D527A4.9050503@gmail.com>

  HI guys
OK in Youtube, you know how sometimes one comes across a video that says 
Part2 of 3 etc? What has been the best approach to find the other parts? 
I find the name of the video, go to the Edit field and type the name 
Part1 or Part3. It'd be great if Youtube somehow had a way to go to the 
next or previous part without having to do the before-mentioned steps! 
Any ideas?

-- 
Enviado desde mi lap
Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!



From gera1027 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 16:59:28 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:59:28 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote in Spanish? Writing and reading
Message-ID: <53D52FF0.7010709@gmail.com>

  HI guys
Very excited and nervous because in a few weeks, I'll finally be getting 
my Apex! No I didn't buy since my parents, nor I, have the money to buy 
a $5500 device, especially taking into account that here in Mexico, 
because of the import costs, they're way too expensive! thus for us the 
blind here, a regular Laptop with Jaws or NVDA is the best we can get; I 
know of the benefits of blindness notetakers, especially since I've used 
them before, and for the IPhone to be able to access it with keyboard, 
sounds very interesting! So when several months back, I saw an item in 
the Tech Tidbits newsletter in which a group of people along with 
TopDots, was given away several of these to worthwhile people based on 
if you were to give it a good home, how you'd use it etc., based on an 
essay you had to send in, I thought OK what the heck I never win 
anything, but OK let's try and see what happends, and I sent my EMail. 
So end of story? I was a fortunate winner of the Apex, which I sometimes 
feel as if I were dreaming!
Anyway my question is (and I already asked on the Bn List, but the more 
info, the better), I'm aware the Apex is able to work in English, 
Spanish, Italian and French for reading/writing, but in what grade 
Braille? IN Spanish, you use the literary Braille code for everyday use 
like for the A Accent is the Of sign, the E Accent is the t-h-e sign, 
the I accent is the st, the ñ is the er, cap sign is dots 46, get the 
idea? OK my wondering is when i set Spanish as the working language, 
what Braille would one use? the literary code, or computer Braille? I 
seem to understand from the manual that Spanish literary Braille isn't 
yet supported, thus the use of computer Braille is required? For those 
who maybe take Spanish in school/college, how have you gone about 
learning the Spanish Braille used on the Bn Apex, in case, as I 
understand from the manual, it's not the literary code, but computer 
Braille, or has Keysoft advanced since the writing of the manual, and 
the Apex now supports literary Spanish Braille? I ask so that I can 
start teaching myself, if needed, Spanish computer Braille! which brings 
me to when reading on the Braille display in spanish, what Spanish 
Braille code does it show? Again computer Braille?
OK Let's continue in the scene where I Still have the working language 
in Spanish, right? OK suppose I get an English EMail, or I want to 
Braille something in english; would the Insert+l for Change language be 
used here then? Via the enter+l, would the voice come up reading in 
English whatever I'm reading?
And finally because I'm kind of hessitant to ask since I wouldn't want 
to convert this to a BN list but have nowhere else to turn and I'm kind 
of nervous for when I get my Apex, are the menus, help etc still in 
English even though the Working language is in Spanish? Thus would these 
menus speak in English English, and not in Spanglish, in which the 
Spanish voice wants to try to pronounce these, if you understand what I 
mean? I'm in contact with a girl in Mexico City who uses an Apex, but 
she uses the qwerty version, amd what I'm looking for also, is for 
someone who uses the Bt version. I've looked on Youtube, on the 
BrailleNote users site at http://www.braillenoteusers.info/media but 
nothing! Thanks for any help you guys can give, and again sorry for 
asking on here even though it's not the Bn list, but as I said before, I 
have nowhere else to turn. ON other technology lists, they don't seem to 
know, or haven't been in luck in finding someone who use the apex in 
Spanish. Thanks for the info you guys can give, especially those who use 
your Apex for daily use in Spanish and English.

-- 
Enviado desde mi lap
Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!



From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 16:59:51 2014
From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:59:51 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
In-Reply-To: <CALAYQJC36GM6pX4xzJf7XfqSyji+SAacgpRe41+vwP-CbUJRvA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAE60C03-06EF-496C-B83D-63E8A86DDD3F@gmail.com>
	<CALAYQJC36GM6pX4xzJf7XfqSyji+SAacgpRe41+vwP-CbUJRvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFja7FZ=s4HQRukh1JzhmpQDUr+Xnr=WOgLEoChoHxMM8k=x_A@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, Rahul,

Two friends of mine, who are also NABS members on this list, and I are
interning at a facility in our city which produces braille copies of
magazines and books for NLS.  A lot of our work keeps us on our feet,
as we walk from the table where we assemble the magazines, to a table
where we make sure the pages are lined up and crease the book to
create a spine, and a table where we place stacks of creased books for
weighing and binding.  Our employer has insisted that we take two 15
minute breaks, one in the morning and one in the afternoon, separate
from our lunch break.  It is important to take a little break from
work, so I hope although you're not sure how to take these breaks like
you want to that you have still been taking them rather than
continuing to work.  I know the three of us really appreciate our 15
minutes.

1 of the other girls and I have also filled in as receptionists a bit,
and in this case we are sitting for long periods of time.  I have to
say that I agree with the points Karl, Arielle, and Jamie have
presented.  I know that when my friend or I, as well as the regular
receptionist who works afternoons, keep our canes by the door we pass
through to get behind the front desk.  When I take my break from
reception, sometimes I just take a short walk outside around the
building.  I might walk down to the edge of the parking lot and back,
just to give my legs a stretch even if I'm not really going anywhere.
I might also take a walk around the building if weather is bad, using
my cane to make sure that other people know I'm there, and I don't
collide with anyone.  I know the building pretty well by now, as do
the other employees, but for me it's about letting people know that I
can't see them, and also doing my part to make sure two blind people
working there don't collide for whatever reason.  Perhaps you could
ask someone else you work with if you could take a walk with them if
you really want to go somewhere, or if the aim of your breaks for you
is to just stretch and get some fresh air, you could walk around the
building inside or outside.  It really depends on how much time you
have to work with for your break, and whether or not you feel you can
make it to somewhere and back in time.

Also, use your lunch break effectively as someone else stated on this
thread.  I often don't take the full 45 minutes I have to eat my
lunch, or even eat while chatting with co-workers.  It's fairly easy
for me to be sociable and eat lunch, and then take a small break to
walk around a bit.

So, I guess what I'm asking is, is it possible for you to justep
outside on your own even if you don't go far from the building?  And,
if you were to use your cane around the office, could you stretch and
take a break indoors as well?  I do think asking co-workers if you
could walk with them would be the best, but at the least you could
independently do these other things.  Ultimately, I think it does
depend on how much time you have to work with on your breaks.

On 7/26/14, Arielle Silverman via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Agreed. Are you concerned about coworkers treating you badly because
> of your cane?
> Arielle
>
> On 7/26/14, Jamie Principato via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> I'm not sure I understand the problem. Why isn't taking a walk to regain
>> focus feasible? If you don't need your cane in the office because you
>> know
>> your way around, why can't you take a walk around the office? If you do
>> use
>> your cane outside the office, why can't you take your cane outside with
>> you
>> and walk a bit?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Rahul Bajaj via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I hope this message finds you well.
>>> I am a law student and am currently interning at a law firm in New
>>> Delhi,
>>> India.
>>> One problem that I have often encountered is that it is very difficult
>>> to remain focused for a very long time period -- 8 to 9 hours -- at a
>>> stretch.
>>> My sighted colleagues often go for a walk for a few minutes to get
>>> some fresh air, but that is not a very feasible option for me.
>>> Even though I use my cane outside the office for navigating, as a
>>> matter of practice, I don't use it within the office as I've gotten
>>> fairly adept at navigating within the office without the cane.
>>> So, has anyone else faced this problem? What strategies would you
>>> recommend for getting a break from work?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Rahul
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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From hope.paulos at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 17:05:54 2014
From: hope.paulos at gmail.com (Hope Paulos)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:05:54 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote in Spanish? Writing and reading
In-Reply-To: <53D52FF0.7010709@gmail.com>
References: <53D52FF0.7010709@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <88C0AF1A-E2AC-45FA-A526-DC435FD842F9@gmail.com>

Hello. I am a Spanish teacher, and have used the braille note in Spanish. The braille that you would be using is the literary braille. 
Hth


Hope Paulos

> On Jul 27, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Gerardo Corripio via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> HI guys
> Very excited and nervous because in a few weeks, I'll finally be getting my Apex! No I didn't buy since my parents, nor I, have the money to buy a $5500 device, especially taking into account that here in Mexico, because of the import costs, they're way too expensive! thus for us the blind here, a regular Laptop with Jaws or NVDA is the best we can get; I know of the benefits of blindness notetakers, especially since I've used them before, and for the IPhone to be able to access it with keyboard, sounds very interesting! So when several months back, I saw an item in the Tech Tidbits newsletter in which a group of people along with TopDots, was given away several of these to worthwhile people based on if you were to give it a good home, how you'd use it etc., based on an essay you had to send in, I thought OK what the heck I never win anything, but OK let's try and see what happends, and I sent my EMail. So end of story? I was a fortunate winner of the Apex, which I sometimes feel as if I were dreaming!
> Anyway my question is (and I already asked on the Bn List, but the more info, the better), I'm aware the Apex is able to work in English, Spanish, Italian and French for reading/writing, but in what grade Braille? IN Spanish, you use the literary Braille code for everyday use like for the A Accent is the Of sign, the E Accent is the t-h-e sign, the I accent is the st, the ñ is the er, cap sign is dots 46, get the idea? OK my wondering is when i set Spanish as the working language, what Braille would one use? the literary code, or computer Braille? I seem to understand from the manual that Spanish literary Braille isn't yet supported, thus the use of computer Braille is required? For those who maybe take Spanish in school/college, how have you gone about learning the Spanish Braille used on the Bn Apex, in case, as I understand from the manual, it's not the literary code, but computer Braille, or has Keysoft advanced since the writing of the manual, and the Apex now supports literary Spanish Braille? I ask so that I can start teaching myself, if needed, Spanish computer Braille! which brings me to when reading on the Braille display in spanish, what Spanish Braille code does it show? Again computer Braille?
> OK Let's continue in the scene where I Still have the working language in Spanish, right? OK suppose I get an English EMail, or I want to Braille something in english; would the Insert+l for Change language be used here then? Via the enter+l, would the voice come up reading in English whatever I'm reading?
> And finally because I'm kind of hessitant to ask since I wouldn't want to convert this to a BN list but have nowhere else to turn and I'm kind of nervous for when I get my Apex, are the menus, help etc still in English even though the Working language is in Spanish? Thus would these menus speak in English English, and not in Spanglish, in which the Spanish voice wants to try to pronounce these, if you understand what I mean? I'm in contact with a girl in Mexico City who uses an Apex, but she uses the qwerty version, amd what I'm looking for also, is for someone who uses the Bt version. I've looked on Youtube, on the BrailleNote users site at http://www.braillenoteusers.info/media but nothing! Thanks for any help you guys can give, and again sorry for asking on here even though it's not the Bn list, but as I said before, I have nowhere else to turn. ON other technology lists, they don't seem to know, or haven't been in luck in finding someone who use the apex in Spanish. Thanks for the info you guys can give, especially those who use your Apex for daily use in Spanish and English.
> 
> -- 
> Enviado desde mi lap
> Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
> Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
> RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!
> 
> 
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From marissat789 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 16:25:28 2014
From: marissat789 at gmail.com (Marissa Tejeda)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:25:28 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Youtube and finding consecutive parts
Message-ID: <53d5281d.4adc440a.748e.47ff@mx.google.com>


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From marissat789 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 17:11:43 2014
From: marissat789 at gmail.com (Marissa Tejeda)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 10:11:43 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] BrailleNote in Spanish? Writing and reading
Message-ID: <53d532f4.43d7440a.7a3e.4703@mx.google.com>


If I am not correct in saying, wouldn't that accent symbol be 
similar to the "at" sign? A dot 4?


 ----- Original Message -----
From: Hope Paulos via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: Gerardo Corripio <gera1027 at gmail.com>,National Association of 
Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:05:54 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] BrailleNote in Spanish? Writing and reading

Hello.  I am a Spanish teacher, and have used the braille note in 
Spanish.  The braille that you would be using is the literary 
braille.
Hth


Hope Paulos

 On Jul 27, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Gerardo Corripio via nabs-l 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 HI guys
 Very excited and nervous because in a few weeks, I'll finally be 
getting my Apex! No I didn't buy since my parents, nor I, have 
the money to buy a $5500 device, especially taking into account 
that here in Mexico, because of the import costs, they're way too 
expensive! thus for us the blind here, a regular Laptop with Jaws 
or NVDA is the best we can get; I know of the benefits of 
blindness notetakers, especially since I've used them before, and 
for the IPhone to be able to access it with keyboard, sounds very 
interesting! So when several months back, I saw an item in the 
Tech Tidbits newsletter in which a group of people along with 
TopDots, was given away several of these to worthwhile people 
based on if you were to give it a good home, how you'd use it 
etc., based on an essay you had to send in, I thought OK what the 
heck I never win anything, but OK let's try and see what 
happends, and I sent my EMail.  So end of story? I was a 
fortunate winner of the Apex, which I sometimes feel as if I were 
dreaming!
 Anyway my question is (and I already asked on the Bn List, but 
the more info, the better), I'm aware the Apex is able to work in 
English, Spanish, Italian and French for reading/writing, but in 
what grade Braille? IN Spanish, you use the literary Braille code 
for everyday use like for the A Accent is the Of sign, the E 
Accent is the t-h-e sign, the I accent is the st, the 챰 is the 
er, cap sign is dots 46, get the idea? OK my wondering is when i 
set Spanish as the working language, what Braille would one use? 
the literary code, or computer Braille? I seem to understand from 
the manual that Spanish literary Braille isn't yet supported, 
thus the use of computer Braille is required? For those who maybe 
take Spanish in school/college, how have you gone about learning 
the Spanish Braille used on the Bn Apex, in case, as I understand 
from the manual, it's not the literary code, but computer 
Braille, or has Keysoft advanced since the writing of the manual, 
and the Apex now supports literary Spanish Braille? I ask so that 
I can start teaching myself, if needed, Spanish computer Braille! 
which brings me to when reading on the Braille display in 
spanish, what Spanish Braille code does it show? Again computer 
Braille?
 OK Let's continue in the scene where I Still have the working 
language in Spanish, right? OK suppose I get an English EMail, or 
I want to Braille something in english; would the Insert+l for 
Change language be used here then? Via the enter+l, would the 
voice come up reading in English whatever I'm reading?
 And finally because I'm kind of hessitant to ask since I 
wouldn't want to convert this to a BN list but have nowhere else 
to turn and I'm kind of nervous for when I get my Apex, are the 
menus, help etc still in English even though the Working language 
is in Spanish? Thus would these menus speak in English English, 
and not in Spanglish, in which the Spanish voice wants to try to 
pronounce these, if you understand what I mean? I'm in contact 
with a girl in Mexico City who uses an Apex, but she uses the 
qwerty version, amd what I'm looking for also, is for someone who 
uses the Bt version.  I've looked on Youtube, on the BrailleNote 
users site at http://www.braillenoteusers.info/media but nothing! 
Thanks for any help you guys can give, and again sorry for asking 
on here even though it's not the Bn list, but as I said before, I 
have nowhere else to turn.  ON other technology lists, they don't 
seem to know, or haven't been in luck in finding someone who use 
the apex in Spanish.  Thanks for the info you guys can give, 
especially those who use your Apex for daily use in Spanish and 
English.

 --
 Enviado desde mi lap
 Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psic처logo, Terap챕uta Reiki
 Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas M챕xico
 RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicolog챠a/Superaci처n Personal 
S찼bados 10PM M챕xico http://radiogeneral.com 징los esperamos!


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From lilliepennington at fuse.net  Sun Jul 27 19:22:07 2014
From: lilliepennington at fuse.net (Lillie Pennington)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:22:07 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] help with retrieving my AP Score
In-Reply-To: <CAAdv8frU4pmuRLskLWs3WmnaK-34K9Rv8VPnJukYo=w5Gv6pEQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00cc01cf9b19$30541c20$90fc5460$@net>
	<9DD1F49D74CB49228AF3A72B5F119BAD@OwnerPC>
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Hi
I am sorry for my extremely sorry for my late response.
I checked the next day and my score was available.
Thank you to those who were willing to give help and support with this.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Danielle Sykora via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Lillie,
> 
> I took two AP exams (bio and Lang and Comp) this year and received my
> scores the same day I was scheduled to.
> 
> Danielle
> 
>> On 7/8/14, minh ha via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Lillie,
>> 
>> A couple of my AP scores came a few weeks later than my classmates',
>> but in general, my AP scores were released at the same time as
>> everyone else's. I would give it a week and if you still don't see
>> your scores, call college board and they can help you retrieve it.
>> Another option is if you are close with your history teacher, get in
>> touch with them and ask them what your score is. I know teachers
>> receive a list of their students' scores from college board. This is
>> how I found out my scores when they were late. Hop ethis helps.
>> Minh
>> 
>>> On 7/8/14, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> hi,
>>> it may be a delay. call them and  ask the status and when you might be
>>> able
>>> 
>>> to expect a score.
>>> have someone sighted check too to ensure you did not overlook something.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Lillie Pennington via nabs-l
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:57 PM
>>> To: 'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] help with retrieving my AP Score
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I hope everyone who attended the NFB convention had a good time.
>>> 


From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 19:36:14 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:36:14 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Hi
Message-ID: <53d554c7.2588ec0a.40f7.30f6@mx.google.com>

Hi I cannot join the prayer group because I have some studying to 
do for an exam.


From mikgephart at icloud.com  Sun Jul 27 19:38:34 2014
From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:38:34 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Hi
In-Reply-To: <53d554c7.2588ec0a.40f7.30f6@mx.google.com>
References: <53d554c7.2588ec0a.40f7.30f6@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <F37C003D-073B-4ACA-9F50-40090A48A7DE@icloud.com>

You just sent it to the list 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 27, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi I cannot join the prayer group because I have some studying to do for an exam.
> 
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From desai.siddhi14 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 19:41:13 2014
From: desai.siddhi14 at gmail.com (siddhi desai)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 01:11:13 +0530
Subject: [nabs-l] seeking contact details
Message-ID: <CAB34EgvcpJXqie9scM8M4mL9Ze5axD5MH7+wO5G+xRW1CoQUPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,

I need contact details of those who have done their career and working
as professionals in Economics, public finance and public policy. and
are willing to talk and guide regarding their difficulties and other
hurdles faced during education and employment.
Let me know if any one of you knows some one and willing to help.
Please email me on email id:
desai.siddhi14 at gmail.com
Sincerely
Siddhi


From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 19:41:07 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:41:07 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Hi
Message-ID: <53d555ed.30c7ec0a.4063.2215@mx.google.com>

Hi Rj hope you are well.  I won't be able to join tonight's 
prayer group because I have some reading to do for an exam.


From dandrews at visi.com  Sun Jul 27 21:23:49 2014
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 16:23:49 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Re: accessible game
Message-ID: <auto-000162949559@mailfront3.g2host.com>


>
>Classic 6 Dragons is a accessible game of 
>scrolling text with a medieval fantasy 
>setting.  We provide a sound pack for your enjoyment.
>
>Classic 6Dragons is a free text based game, 
>based on the 6Dragons codebase. This game's 
>dragons are as they were intended to be... 
>Powerful, awe-inspiring and just incredible FUN 
>to play! Some Features Include: Accessibility, 6 
>Dragons has a soundpack and setting for the 
>seeing impaired. Custom Tradeskills don't like 
>hack n slash, be a blacksmith, jeweler, baker, 
>or trader. Wilderness that is difficult to get 
>lost in, due to landmark code. Custom City Siege 
>code, where you can laysiege to other cities. 
>Custom Quest Journal no questmaster cookie 
>cutter code, our quest code is unique.
>
>In the creation process we ask the player if 
>they are a blind player or not.  That will set 
>them to config screenreader.  Which greatly reduces the spam.
>
>Additionally, I have combined the combat code 
>messages so you will see something like.
>
>You attack a hill giant 8 times for 1300 damage, 
>instead of 8 lines of you hitting the hill giant.
>
>Every area in the game, has quests.  I was a 
>everquest addict back in the day and have custom 
>quest journal that displays what quest you have and your progress in the quest.
>
>Now the soundpack we offer uses .wav 
>sounds.  It is located 
><http://mud.themudhost.net/~vladaar/sound/sound.zip>http://mud.themudhost.net/~vladaar/sound/sound.zip
>
>Let me know if you have any further questions or suggestions.
>
>Additionally, I have no problems with changing 
>the game to make it easier for blind 
>players.  I often solicit ideas from my current players that are blind.
>
>domain name is <http://mud.themudhost.net>mud.themudhost.net port 4100
>
>This site has useful information for blind players
><http://mud.themudhost.net/~vladaar/bin/blind.html>http://mud.themudhost.net/~vladaar/bin/blind.html
>
>The game site is 
><http://mud.themudhost.net/~vladaar>mud.themudhost.net/~vladaar
>

         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org

From mikgephart at icloud.com  Sun Jul 27 21:47:16 2014
From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 17:47:16 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Introducing Myself:
In-Reply-To: <CAA1MTWtRsOaX-i3+wub=Qh4zaKUOCXXj5KofoQzJbC+KsP1jpw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA1MTWtRsOaX-i3+wub=Qh4zaKUOCXXj5KofoQzJbC+KsP1jpw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A09D843C-7007-4BC1-B7CC-12B8054D910C@icloud.com>

Have you ever been to a state convention? It is not as big as national, but still good

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 24, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Carol Hummel via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> -- 
> For God so loved the world, that he gave his ever begotten Son, that
> whosoever, believeth in him shall not perish, but have ever lasting
> Life. John 3:16 Carol Ann Hummel
> Hi, My name is Carol Ann Weeks. I am 24 years old. I am totally blind
> but I haven't been that way all my life. I was in a bad car accident
> when I was 7 years old on December 7th 1997. According to my family
> the vehicle rolled on my head five to six times. I died on them six
> times had a heart attack and a stroke. The whole left side of my face
> was broken and the optic nerve in my left eye was cut away. I survived
> somehow and I was visually impaired until I was sixteen. While sitting
> in my Biology class one day I lost my sight completely and I thought
> it was just because my teacher wouldn't let me go get my medicine for
> my eye that was in August of 2006. My mom came to the school to take
> me to the doctor cause she was like oh no she can't be losing her
> sight. I cried the entire time. My eye doctor sent me to another
> doctor in Dothan Alabama and he performed two cornia transplants the
> first in September of 2006 and the second in October of 2006 but they
> both rejected that is when we all discovered that I hadn't just lost
> my sight by normal means I had had a second stroke due to no feeling
> near the right eye. I was out of school for several months after I
> lost my sight it took my will away. I thought there was no use cause
> see I would read up to two or three romance novels a day and now I
> couldn't so I was miserable. My parents had no idea what to do with
> me. I soon went back to school in FSDB , I wasn't there for long
> though I couldn't with stand the distance. I was sixteen going on
> seventeen and scared because I wasn't able to see anything. When I got
> out of FSDB my parents put me back in public school at Taylor County
> High School. That is some place I new really well I grew up there from
> when I was T13 years old. It was nice to be back home around my
> friends and people I knew. Then in December of 2008 we moved to South
> Carolina. That is where I currently live. I attended Senica High
> School. I was in and out of the hospital in 2009 the year I graduated
> but I got a District Certificate and I am currently working on my High
> School Diploma through Hadley. I believe it is all God that has gotten
> me this far and I hope and pray he can get me much farther in life. I
> have never been to a NFB convention but I am trying to figure out away
> to be able to attend next years.
> Fill free to contact me by email: angelic.sweetpea90 at gmail.com
> Skype: southern.bell90
> or Facebook: angelic.sweetpea90 at gmail.com    
> thanks II hope to hear from yall soon.
> God Bless,
> Carol Ann Weeks
> 
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Sun Jul 27 21:51:35 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 17:51:35 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
In-Reply-To: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD73FBC1A48F4A079666CB6EF848CB4D@OwnerPC>

Hi Rahul,
Breaks are good because they actually help you concentrate better when 
returning to work.
I don't understand the problem. Why can't you take a walk with your cane 
outside? I know you don't use it inside because you don't need it, but why 
not pick it up and walk outside with it? To learn your way, ask one of the 
employees to show you around where they walk. There might be a courtyard or 
something like that nearby you can simply go  to and sit and relax.
Alternatively, walk with coworkers, but if you can use a cane, I see no 
reason not to walk yourself.

Other ways to take breaks are to just stand up and stretch or walk down to a 
break room if you have one and get a drink and relax there.
Sometimes I just took a break by surfing the  internet, but this does not 
get you away from your desk.

HTH,
Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Rahul Bajaj via nabs-l
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:24 AM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work

Hi all,

I hope this message finds you well.
I am a law student and am currently interning at a law firm in New Delhi, 
India.
One problem that I have often encountered is that it is very difficult
to remain focused for a very long time period -- 8 to 9 hours -- at a
stretch.
My sighted colleagues often go for a walk for a few minutes to get
some fresh air, but that is not a very feasible option for me.
Even though I use my cane outside the office for navigating, as a
matter of practice, I don't use it within the office as I've gotten
fairly adept at navigating within the office without the cane.
So, has anyone else faced this problem? What strategies would you
recommend for getting a break from work?

Best,
Rahul

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From marissat789 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 22:05:06 2014
From: marissat789 at gmail.com (Marissa Tejeda)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 15:05:06 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Re: accessible game
Message-ID: <53d577b6.6837460a.4f06.4941@mx.google.com>


Can this game be played on the Braillenote Apex?


Thanks,
Marissa


 ----- Original Message -----
From: David Andrews via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 16:23:49 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Re: accessible game



Classic 6 Dragons is a accessible game of
scrolling text with a medieval fantasy
setting.  We provide a sound pack for your enjoyment.

Classic 6Dragons is a free text based game,
based on the 6Dragons codebase.  This game's
dragons are as they were intended to be...
Powerful, awe-inspiring and just incredible FUN
to play! Some Features Include: Accessibility, 6
Dragons has a soundpack and setting for the
seeing impaired.  Custom Tradeskills don't like
hack n slash, be a blacksmith, jeweler, baker,
or trader.  Wilderness that is difficult to get
lost in, due to landmark code.  Custom City Siege
code, where you can laysiege to other cities.
Custom Quest Journal no questmaster cookie
cutter code, our quest code is unique.

In the creation process we ask the player if
they are a blind player or not.  That will set
them to config screenreader.  Which greatly reduces the spam.

Additionally, I have combined the combat code
messages so you will see something like.

You attack a hill giant 8 times for 1300 damage,
instead of 8 lines of you hitting the hill giant.

Every area in the game, has quests.  I was a
everquest addict back in the day and have custom
quest journal that displays what quest you have and your progress 
in the quest.

Now the soundpack we offer uses .wav
sounds.  It is locatedÂ
<http://mud.themudhost.net/~vladaar/sound/sound.zip>http://mud.th
emudhost.net/~vladaar/sound/sound.zip

Let me know if you have any further questions or suggestions.

Additionally, I have no problems with changing
the game to make it easier for blind
players.  I often solicit ideas from my current players that are 
blind.

domain name is <http://mud.themudhost.net>mud.themudhost.net port 
4100

This site has useful information for blind players
<http://mud.themudhost.net/~vladaar/bin/blind.html>http://mud.the
mudhost.net/~vladaar/bin/blind.html

The game site is
<http://mud.themudhost.net/~vladaar>mud.themudhost.net/~vladaar


         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
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From franks.jonathan13 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 22:46:04 2014
From: franks.jonathan13 at gmail.com (jonathan franks)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 17:46:04 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
In-Reply-To: <CD73FBC1A48F4A079666CB6EF848CB4D@OwnerPC>
References: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CD73FBC1A48F4A079666CB6EF848CB4D@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <CAHEy+8WrX=jJvsvq82cA=be+JA0E9hMnay_jCSL7OZLB56QpmQ@mail.gmail.com>

My break from school coursework is definitely music. It helps me
reduce stress or even gets me amped up and ready to take on my
assignment.

You can listen to it at your desk or if you have a music playing
device such as an iPOD or other type of device, you can take it with
you.

I hope this helps

Regards,
Jonathan



On 7/27/14, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Rahul,
> Breaks are good because they actually help you concentrate better when
> returning to work.
> I don't understand the problem. Why can't you take a walk with your cane
> outside? I know you don't use it inside because you don't need it, but why
> not pick it up and walk outside with it? To learn your way, ask one of the
> employees to show you around where they walk. There might be a courtyard or
>
> something like that nearby you can simply go  to and sit and relax.
> Alternatively, walk with coworkers, but if you can use a cane, I see no
> reason not to walk yourself.
>
> Other ways to take breaks are to just stand up and stretch or walk down to a
>
> break room if you have one and get a drink and relax there.
> Sometimes I just took a break by surfing the  internet, but this does not
> get you away from your desk.
>
> HTH,
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rahul Bajaj via nabs-l
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:24 AM
> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
>
> Hi all,
>
> I hope this message finds you well.
> I am a law student and am currently interning at a law firm in New Delhi,
> India.
> One problem that I have often encountered is that it is very difficult
> to remain focused for a very long time period -- 8 to 9 hours -- at a
> stretch.
> My sighted colleagues often go for a walk for a few minutes to get
> some fresh air, but that is not a very feasible option for me.
> Even though I use my cane outside the office for navigating, as a
> matter of practice, I don't use it within the office as I've gotten
> fairly adept at navigating within the office without the cane.
> So, has anyone else faced this problem? What strategies would you
> recommend for getting a break from work?
>
> Best,
> Rahul
>
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National Federation of the Blind
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Hook the Cure Board Member
Social Media Manager
The University of Texas at Austin
www.texashookthecure.weebly.co

Diabetes Action Network (NFB)
National Board Member


From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 22:52:13 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:52:13 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Re- Taking breaks during work
Message-ID: <53d582b7.4604ec0a.095d.2c18@mx.google.com>

My break from schoolwork and studying for exams is watching 
something on television.  It helps me to calm my nerves before 
doing another round of studying.


From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 23:33:58 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:33:58 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Free Conference Caalling Service
Message-ID: <0677DBBA24214C29B43B7982F177E7E6@Helga>

Hi everyone! How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, do any of you use free conference calling service for your conference call meetings? I’m just wondering! since I would like to run some conference call meetings with it. If you do, would it be possible for you to teach me how to use the service since I’m going to be the host of my meetings? I will really appreciate it a lot! if you could help me with this! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much and God bless! 
P.S. By the way, I have skype, if you prefer to reach me with it, in order to help me with this. Thanks again!  
Helga Schreiber 

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research 

Phone: (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Sun Jul 27 23:48:00 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:48:00 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Free Conference Caalling Service
References: <0677DBBA24214C29B43B7982F177E7E6@Helga>
Message-ID: <13A7DAEA4D8B4335A448475E99C2A30B@robert9999b7cf>

Helga, Your messege is blank. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helga via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 7:33 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Free Conference Caalling Service


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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 00:00:56 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (Helga Schreiber)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:00:56 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Free Conference Caalling Service
References: <0677DBBA24214C29B43B7982F177E7E6@Helga>
Message-ID: <189A5842-7D3B-4010-9273-BA9EA1D0B763@gmail.com>



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 

Begin forwarded message:

> From: <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>
> Date: July 27, 2014 at 7:33:58 PM EDT
> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Free Conference Caalling Service
> 
> Hi everyone! How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, do any of you use free conference calling service for your conference call meetings? I’m just wondering! since I would like to run some conference call meetings with it. If you do, would it be possible for you to teach me how to use the service since I’m going to be the host of my meetings? I will really appreciate it a lot! if you could help me with this! Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks so much and God bless! 
> P.S. By the way, I have skype, if you prefer to reach me with it, in order to help me with this. Thanks again!  
> Helga Schreiber 
> 
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
> Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research 
> 
> Phone: (561) 706-5950 
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26 
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
> 
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 

From dandrews at visi.com  Mon Jul 28 00:11:45 2014
From: dandrews at visi.com (David Andrews)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:11:45 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder
Message-ID: <auto-000162453712@mailfront4.g2host.com>

Just a gentle reminder to all of you out there in list land.  It is 
permissible to place messages related to selling stuff on our 
lists.  However the messages should be for products of benefit to 
blind people, and/or created for our use -- not general 
merchandise.  Also, if you have a company and post regularly, 
approximately once a month is the tradition around here.  Finally, 
low key is the word, not hard sell.

Dave



         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org



From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 00:17:06 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:17:06 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Free Conference Caalling Service
References: <0677DBBA24214C29B43B7982F177E7E6@Helga>
	<189A5842-7D3B-4010-9273-BA9EA1D0B763@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8C58A83163E94FA0A8824EEC29714432@robert9999b7cf>

Helga, Their are conference call services, but your callers are charged for 
calling. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "National Association of Blind Students" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:00 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Free Conference Caalling Service


>
>
> Helga Schreiber
>
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
> Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>
>> Date: July 27, 2014 at 7:33:58 PM EDT
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Free Conference Caalling Service
>>
>> Hi everyone! How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, do any of you use 
>> free conference calling service for your conference call meetings? I’m 
>> just wondering! since I would like to run some conference call meetings 
>> with it. If you do, would it be possible for you to teach me how to use 
>> the service since I’m going to be the host of my meetings? I will really 
>> appreciate it a lot! if you could help me with this! Hope to hear from 
>> you soon. Thanks so much and God bless!
>> P.S. By the way, I have skype, if you prefer to reach me with it, in 
>> order to help me with this. Thanks again!
>> Helga Schreiber
>>
>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
>> Blind Students
>> Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research
>>
>> Phone: (561) 706-5950
>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 
>> 3:16
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From justin.williams2 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 00:30:06 2014
From: justin.williams2 at gmail.com (justin williams)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:30:06 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] thanks and well done.
Message-ID: <031001cfa9fb$157183c0$40548b40$@gmail.com>

I like the way you just handled that sir. 

One should be able to make people aware of what they do, but that is it.  

 I like your style.

Thank you and well done.


From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 00:30:54 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:30:54 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Free Conference Caalling Service
In-Reply-To: <8C58A83163E94FA0A8824EEC29714432@robert9999b7cf>
References: <0677DBBA24214C29B43B7982F177E7E6@Helga>
	<189A5842-7D3B-4010-9273-BA9EA1D0B763@gmail.com>
	<8C58A83163E94FA0A8824EEC29714432@robert9999b7cf>
Message-ID: <DD3CCF7703D748B78F6D5CB8504043EF@Helga>

Hi RJ! I know that this service probably charge for calling! I just wanted 
to know, how to do the commands or buttons that I need to press on my iPhone 
in order to run my meetings smoothly! For instance, how to record the 
meeting, or if it is any code in order to send to a guest speaker, and many 
other things! I will really would like to know how to use it! Hope to hear 
from you soon. Thanks and God bless! :)



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

Phone: (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
-----Original Message----- 
From: RJ Sandefur
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:17 PM
To: Helga Schreiber ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Fwd: Free Conference Caalling Service

Helga, Their are conference call services, but your callers are charged for
calling. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helga Schreiber via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "National Association of Blind Students" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:00 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Fwd: Free Conference Caalling Service


>
>
> Helga Schreiber
>
> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter.
> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
> Blind Students.
> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
> Phone:  (561) 706-5950
> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
> Skype: helga.schreiber26
> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>
> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>
>> Date: July 27, 2014 at 7:33:58 PM EDT
>> To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Free Conference Caalling Service
>>
>> Hi everyone! How are you all? I just wanted to ask you, do any of you use 
>> free conference calling service for your conference call meetings? I’m 
>> just wondering! since I would like to run some conference call meetings 
>> with it. If you do, would it be possible for you to teach me how to use 
>> the service since I’m going to be the host of my meetings? I will really 
>> appreciate it a lot! if you could help me with this! Hope to hear from 
>> you soon. Thanks so much and God bless!
>> P.S. By the way, I have skype, if you prefer to reach me with it, in 
>> order to help me with this. Thanks again!
>> Helga Schreiber
>>
>> Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of 
>> Blind Students
>> Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research
>>
>> Phone: (561) 706-5950
>> Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
>> Skype: helga.schreiber26
>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/
>>
>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that 
>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 
>> 3:16
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From bethslists at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 01:41:03 2014
From: bethslists at gmail.com (Beth Taurasi)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:41:03 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] suggestions
Message-ID: <53d5aa5d.e81e320a.3603.3314@mx.google.com>

Dear List, and especially Carl Jacobsen
I think there are some broken links on the chat site there.  Hi, 
this is Beth.  Just a message for Mr. Jacobsen, Carl Jcobsen.  
There are a ton of broken contact links.  It would help if there 
was an email or phone number in each of those links.  Please fix 
those if you don't mind.
The reason I am writing this is that some friends of mine would 
like to see a presentation or two at NFB live.  I think it would 
help the teenagers in the group if we did a presentation on 
bullying, exclusion, and how to deal.  I've been excluded from 
peer groups.  As someone who found the NFB by acident, I know 
firsthand what it's like to be isolated and that geographically, 
I was unable to find a chapter in Brevard County and Titusville.  
The only people who did NFB activities in FL Brevard County were 
the Naultys.  Joe and Arlene.  Well, they live in Melbourne from 
what I could tell, but you can't have a chapter with only three 
people.  I was a member of Denver and Daytona's chapters.  Face 
this fact, though, I was excluded from my peer group in high 
school, and exclusion still affects adults too.  I think we need 
to also understand that folks with cognitive differences are 
excluded due to their disabilities, so I think I would like to 
contribute my experience with that.  Thanks.
Beth


From pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com  Mon Jul 28 02:08:07 2014
From: pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com (Peter Donahue)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 21:08:07 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder
References: <auto-000162453712@mailfront4.g2host.com>
Message-ID: <6DE52B7506D34C14BFE2E168B1384D78@peted2AB964BD1>

Good evening Dave and everyone,

    And check your particular company's rules of conduct before posting 
especially those governing the use of social networking. In a few cases the 
posting of privileged information on an open social network can result in 
termination of the associate. With one company this is a hard and fast rule. 
They have a 0 tolerance for such behavior. Knowing these rules will insure 
you comply with them and control the amount of clutter on lists such as this 
one. All the best.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Andrews via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <blindtlk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 7:11 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] Reminder


> Just a gentle reminder to all of you out there in list land.  It is 
> permissible to place messages related to selling stuff on our lists. 
> However the messages should be for products of benefit to blind people, 
> and/or created for our use -- not general merchandise.  Also, if you have 
> a company and post regularly, approximately once a month is the tradition 
> around here.  Finally, low key is the word, not hard sell.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>         David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
> E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>
>
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From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 02:35:34 2014
From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 22:35:34 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
In-Reply-To: <CAHEy+8WrX=jJvsvq82cA=be+JA0E9hMnay_jCSL7OZLB56QpmQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADFycPbp3fvz9TexgHP7bJ-565aCGaxdR=3TKA+pmzfvkw_Gqw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CD73FBC1A48F4A079666CB6EF848CB4D@OwnerPC>
	<CAHEy+8WrX=jJvsvq82cA=be+JA0E9hMnay_jCSL7OZLB56QpmQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFja7FY1_SP5mUKXyDmFafSWuNcWTT+EYmE5xkcKxJjz=_T6Kg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

As an aside, I have to say ditto to what Ashley said about break
rooms.  It's always nice to go to the break room to sit away from the
work, or to get a snack or drink from the vending machines we have
there.  Often there is someone else doing the same thing there, so it
also makes for a great social venture too.  Also, my friends and I
have taken to visiting each other while on our breaks.  My co-workers
in the transcription department and I will sometimes go visit the
receptionist to chat with her, and they have visited me at the front
desk when I was manning the phones as well.  When I work reception I
also tend to go visit the people who are assembling the braille
magazines and chat with them while they're still working too.
Everyone appreciates the interaction, and it keeps the work day
interesting.

On 7/27/14, jonathan franks via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> My break from school coursework is definitely music. It helps me
> reduce stress or even gets me amped up and ready to take on my
> assignment.
>
> You can listen to it at your desk or if you have a music playing
> device such as an iPOD or other type of device, you can take it with
> you.
>
> I hope this helps
>
> Regards,
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> On 7/27/14, Ashley Bramlett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Rahul,
>> Breaks are good because they actually help you concentrate better when
>> returning to work.
>> I don't understand the problem. Why can't you take a walk with your cane
>> outside? I know you don't use it inside because you don't need it, but
>> why
>> not pick it up and walk outside with it? To learn your way, ask one of
>> the
>> employees to show you around where they walk. There might be a courtyard
>> or
>>
>> something like that nearby you can simply go  to and sit and relax.
>> Alternatively, walk with coworkers, but if you can use a cane, I see no
>> reason not to walk yourself.
>>
>> Other ways to take breaks are to just stand up and stretch or walk down to
>> a
>>
>> break room if you have one and get a drink and relax there.
>> Sometimes I just took a break by surfing the  internet, but this does not
>> get you away from your desk.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rahul Bajaj via nabs-l
>> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 10:24 AM
>> To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [nabs-l] Taking breaks during work
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I hope this message finds you well.
>> I am a law student and am currently interning at a law firm in New Delhi,
>> India.
>> One problem that I have often encountered is that it is very difficult
>> to remain focused for a very long time period -- 8 to 9 hours -- at a
>> stretch.
>> My sighted colleagues often go for a walk for a few minutes to get
>> some fresh air, but that is not a very feasible option for me.
>> Even though I use my cane outside the office for navigating, as a
>> matter of practice, I don't use it within the office as I've gotten
>> fairly adept at navigating within the office without the cane.
>> So, has anyone else faced this problem? What strategies would you
>> recommend for getting a break from work?
>>
>> Best,
>> Rahul
>>
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>
>
> --
> Jonathan Franks
> Austin Chapter Board Member
> National Federation of the Blind
> www.nfbaustin.org
>
> Hook the Cure Board Member
> Social Media Manager
> The University of Texas at Austin
> www.texashookthecure.weebly.co
>
> Diabetes Action Network (NFB)
> National Board Member
>
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-- 
Kaiti


From ligne14 at verizon.net  Mon Jul 28 03:09:05 2014
From: ligne14 at verizon.net (sami osborne)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 23:09:05 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] thanks and well done.
Message-ID: <0N9E00DU1JFB9E70@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net>

Hi,

Ok first of all, Justin, who exactly is it you are talking to?

Without someone's name, nobody has any idea who you're 
addressing...  You simply addressed this person as "sir."

When you post something like this, I advise you to please include 
whoever's name in your message, so that everybody knows who 
you're talking about.

Second, does something like this really belong on list? If you're 
sending a message to someone directly, it is better to contact 
them off list in my opinion.

Not trying to sound rude just giving my personal opinion.

Thanks,

Sami.


 ----- Original Message -----
From: justin williams via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "'David Andrews via nabs-l'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:30:06 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] thanks and well done.

I like the way you just handled that sir.

One should be able to make people aware of what they do, but that 
is it.

 I like your style.

Thank you and well done.

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From bre.brown24 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 03:56:54 2014
From: bre.brown24 at gmail.com (Bre Brown)
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 22:56:54 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] suggestions
In-Reply-To: <53d5aa5d.e81e320a.3603.3314@mx.google.com>
References: <53d5aa5d.e81e320a.3603.3314@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <CACXqA0oyNCob6_rbtdDADM4MsVFL5ANFK5FfoBNdgfg08uW29w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Beth,

Thank you for letting us know about the broken links on the NFB Live
site. We appreciate that. We are still doing a lot of work on the
site.
I will pass your suggestion about presentations along to Carl Jacobsen.


If you have any other suggestions, let us know.

Thank you
Bre Brown

Secretary, National Association of Blind Students
On 7/27/14, Beth Taurasi via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Dear List, and especially Carl Jacobsen
> I think there are some broken links on the chat site there.  Hi,
> this is Beth.  Just a message for Mr. Jacobsen, Carl Jcobsen.
> There are a ton of broken contact links.  It would help if there
> was an email or phone number in each of those links.  Please fix
> those if you don't mind.
> The reason I am writing this is that some friends of mine would
> like to see a presentation or two at NFB live.  I think it would
> help the teenagers in the group if we did a presentation on
> bullying, exclusion, and how to deal.  I've been excluded from
> peer groups.  As someone who found the NFB by acident, I know
> firsthand what it's like to be isolated and that geographically,
> I was unable to find a chapter in Brevard County and Titusville.
> The only people who did NFB activities in FL Brevard County were
> the Naultys.  Joe and Arlene.  Well, they live in Melbourne from
> what I could tell, but you can't have a chapter with only three
> people.  I was a member of Denver and Daytona's chapters.  Face
> this fact, though, I was excluded from my peer group in high
> school, and exclusion still affects adults too.  I think we need
> to also understand that folks with cognitive differences are
> excluded due to their disabilities, so I think I would like to
> contribute my experience with that.  Thanks.
> Beth
>
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From martinezana770 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 14:13:51 2014
From: martinezana770 at gmail.com (martinezana770 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:13:51 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Introducing myself
Message-ID: <7F8793C2-880D-4E43-A4CB-A551BACB2E50@gmail.com>

Hi all! My name is Ana I'm 16 and I'm blind due to rop, glaucoma, and nystagmus.
Some of my hobbies are cooking, swimming, and hang out with my friends
I currently live in mexico but I will move to Colorado on august!
Looking forthward to meet all of you!

Sent from my iPhone

From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 14:21:59 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:21:59 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Introducing myself
Message-ID: <53d65ca2.650bec0a.076f.ffffa2ed@mx.google.com>

Hi Ana welcome to the list.  My name is Roanna Bacchus.  I am a 
vensually impaired college student.  Do you have facetime? If so 
feel free to add me.  I use my email address for face"time.


From yadosoto at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 14:31:40 2014
From: yadosoto at gmail.com (Yadiel Sotomayor)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:31:40 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Introducing myself
In-Reply-To: <7F8793C2-880D-4E43-A4CB-A551BACB2E50@gmail.com>
References: <7F8793C2-880D-4E43-A4CB-A551BACB2E50@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4374DAD3-9DE9-4F1B-939D-E1A0C9B37728@gmail.com>

Hello Ana:

My name is Yadiel Sotomayor, intern at the Jernigan Institute and treasurer of the NFB of Puerto Rico.
On Jul 28, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Ana via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi all! My name is Ana I'm 16 and I'm blind due to rop, glaucoma, and nystagmus.
> Some of my hobbies are cooking, swimming, and hang out with my friends
> I currently live in mexico but I will move to Colorado on august!
> Looking forthward to meet all of you!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From zdreicer at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 16:44:19 2014
From: zdreicer at gmail.com (Zachary N. Griego-Dreicer)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:44:19 -0600
Subject: [nabs-l] Introducing myself
In-Reply-To: <7F8793C2-880D-4E43-A4CB-A551BACB2E50@gmail.com>
References: <7F8793C2-880D-4E43-A4CB-A551BACB2E50@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <950395E1-0945-4BBB-891C-202ABBBA7A17@gmail.com>

You should also join the Colorado Association of blind students list. Looking forward to seeing you soon!

Sent from my iPhone 5S Using VoiceOver

> On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:13, Ana via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all! My name is Ana I'm 16 and I'm blind due to rop, glaucoma, and nystagmus.
> Some of my hobbies are cooking, swimming, and hang out with my friends
> I currently live in mexico but I will move to Colorado on august!
> Looking forthward to meet all of you!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From gera1027 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 16:51:32 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:51:32 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Introducing myself
In-Reply-To: <53d65ca2.650bec0a.076f.ffffa2ed@mx.google.com>
References: <53d65ca2.650bec0a.076f.ffffa2ed@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <53D67F94.4020309@gmail.com>

  Bienvenida Ana! Welcome Ana! I'm from Mexico also, Tampico in the Gulf 
of Mexico; you'll learn lots of interesting things on here! Where in 
Mexico do you live then?

El 28/07/2014 09:21 a.m., Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l escribió:
> Hi Ana welcome to the list.  My name is Roanna Bacchus.  I am a 
> vensually impaired college student.  Do you have facetime? If so feel 
> free to add me.  I use my email address for face"time.
>
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-- 
Enviado desde mi lap
Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!



From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 17:03:20 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:03:20 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Introducing myself
In-Reply-To: <53D67F94.4020309@gmail.com>
References: <53d65ca2.650bec0a.076f.ffffa2ed@mx.google.com>
	<53D67F94.4020309@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD4ADCE326C34D37A5D9C4B98BFD1355@Helga>

Hi Ana! Welcome to the list! I'm from Peru! But I currently live in Boca 
Raton Florida. So bienvenida a la lista! Ana! Hope you like it! Hope to hear 
and talk to you soon! Thanks so much and God bless! :)
P.S. Sorry guys for writing in Spanish! language! ;)



Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

Phone: (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
-----Original Message----- 
From: Gerardo Corripio via nabs-l
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 12:51 PM
To: Roanna Bacchus ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Introducing myself

  Bienvenida Ana! Welcome Ana! I'm from Mexico also, Tampico in the Gulf
of Mexico; you'll learn lots of interesting things on here! Where in
Mexico do you live then?

El 28/07/2014 09:21 a.m., Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l escribió:
> Hi Ana welcome to the list.  My name is Roanna Bacchus.  I am a vensually 
> impaired college student.  Do you have facetime? If so feel free to add 
> me.  I use my email address for face"time.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nabs-l:
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-- 
Enviado desde mi lap
Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México
RompiendoBarreras espacio de psicología/Superación Personal Sábados 10PM 
México http://radiogeneral.com ¡los esperamos!


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From anjelinac at att.net  Mon Jul 28 18:36:14 2014
From: anjelinac at att.net (Anjelina)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 14:36:14 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Introducing myself
In-Reply-To: <7F8793C2-880D-4E43-A4CB-A551BACB2E50@gmail.com>
References: <7F8793C2-880D-4E43-A4CB-A551BACB2E50@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13C3BD54-221D-42B4-83A7-87231F0A65A1@att.net>

😎 Welcome to the list.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Ana via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all! My name is Ana I'm 16 and I'm blind due to rop, glaucoma, and nystagmus.
> Some of my hobbies are cooking, swimming, and hang out with my friends
> I currently live in mexico but I will move to Colorado on august!
> Looking forthward to meet all of you!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From matt.dierckens at me.com  Mon Jul 28 18:42:13 2014
From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 14:42:13 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Introducing myself
In-Reply-To: <13C3BD54-221D-42B4-83A7-87231F0A65A1@att.net>
References: <7F8793C2-880D-4E43-A4CB-A551BACB2E50@gmail.com>
	<13C3BD54-221D-42B4-83A7-87231F0A65A1@att.net>
Message-ID: <AC29E30C-7EAE-45FC-82EC-D19FA5B95EBC@me.com>

Welcome to the list Anna.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 28, 2014, at 14:36, Anjelina via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> 😎 Welcome to the list.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Ana via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all! My name is Ana I'm 16 and I'm blind due to rop, glaucoma, and nystagmus.
>> Some of my hobbies are cooking, swimming, and hang out with my friends
>> I currently live in mexico but I will move to Colorado on august!
>> Looking forthward to meet all of you!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> _______________________________________________
>> nabs-l mailing list
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for nabs-l:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/anjelinac%40att.net
> 
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From jhud7789 at outlook.com  Mon Jul 28 18:54:12 2014
From: jhud7789 at outlook.com (Joeph Hudson)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 13:54:12 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] Introducing myself
In-Reply-To: <7F8793C2-880D-4E43-A4CB-A551BACB2E50@gmail.com>
References: <7F8793C2-880D-4E43-A4CB-A551BACB2E50@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU405-EAS3632515DD8FD796A667759ECEFB0@phx.gbl>

Hello Anna, welcome to list my name is Joseph. I see you have an iPhone, and if you ever are in need of any kind of help please feel free to shoot me an email off list if needed. Or on list as well it does not matter. My hobbies are helping people talking on the phone and eating good dinners.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 28, 2014, at 9:14 AM, "Ana via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all! My name is Ana I'm 16 and I'm blind due to rop, glaucoma, and nystagmus.
> Some of my hobbies are cooking, swimming, and hang out with my friends
> I currently live in mexico but I will move to Colorado on august!
> Looking forthward to meet all of you!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 19:51:27 2014
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:51:27 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] Introducing myself
In-Reply-To: <7F8793C2-880D-4E43-A4CB-A551BACB2E50@gmail.com>
References: <7F8793C2-880D-4E43-A4CB-A551BACB2E50@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B2F6C255-1D49-494D-8138-D5F2FA2394F6@gmail.com>

Hello Ana,
 Welcome to the NABS list! 
   We are a very supportive community build on common experiences and respect and trust.
 We look forward to  being there to support you as you are navigating student life and where that life takes you.
  Please be in touch with any of us regarding anything you might want to know.
  Best,
  Darian    
On Jul 28, 2014, at 7:13 AM, Ana via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi all! My name is Ana I'm 16 and I'm blind due to rop, glaucoma, and nystagmus.
> Some of my hobbies are cooking, swimming, and hang out with my friends
> I currently live in mexico but I will move to Colorado on august!
> Looking forthward to meet all of you!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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From freethaught at gmail.com  Mon Jul 28 20:00:20 2014
From: freethaught at gmail.com (Antonio Guimaraes)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 16:00:20 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Matilda Ziegler Magazine update
In-Reply-To: <53d29e33.261fec0a.1a49.7c4b@mx.google.com>
References: <53d29e33.261fec0a.1a49.7c4b@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <2C563790-4090-4C0E-B47C-7B42AE8FB1BE@gmail.com>

I find it interesting that only two sources for books for the blind were mentioned, ad tat Bookshare was not one of them.

When was the last time you ordered something from AFB?

Way to possibly mention only one partner, and one obligatory source of books, NLS.

I didn’t read the Ziegler, bt lots of people outside of the United States did, and they are not eligible to receive NLS materials.

I think they made the right decision, but they did not justify it with sufficient background information.

There is no longer a need to have materials available from Ziegler. The magazine fulfilled its purpose, but times have changed.

It just didn’t seem like they really thought hard about pointing readers to other legitimate sources of information.

Antonio




On Jul 25, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hi Nabs members hope you are doing well.  This is a message from the Matilda Zeigler Magazine for the Blind.
> 
> ---- Original Message ------
> From: "Matilda Ziegler Magazine for the Blind" <editor at matildaziegler.com
> Subject: Matilda Ziegler Magazine
> Date sent: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 04:00:06 +1000
> 
> July 25, 2014
> 
> As you are aware the Matilda Ziegler Magazine for the Blind has been suspended for the past several months pending a review by the Board of Directors of The E.  Matilda Ziegler Foundation for the Blind.  Considerable time was spent evaluating its substance, breadth of distribution, and readers' responses.  With heavy heart the directors voted to discontinue the weekly magazine and use the Foundation's resources solely for scientific research through grants to highly innovative medical researchers who are making important advances in vision research.
> 
> We've come a long way from when my great grandmother, Electa Matilda Ziegler, founded the magazine in 1907 with the goal of producing reading material for the blind "as much as possible like that published for the seeing." Raised type books of the era were expensive, and the freely circulated magazine helped to fill an information void.
> 
> Today's blind and those with visual impairment can obtain books and magazines in Braille, on cassette, and in DVD or CD format from the National Library Service and the American Foundation for the Blind.  Radio, television, internet, and commercially produced audio books have all become accessible, and provide resources that could not have been imagined in 1907.
> 
> Your emails and letters show that we've touched the lives of thousands of blind and vision impaired people.  The Matilda Ziegler Magazine for the Blind was once described by Helen Keller as a "godsend," and Mark Twain described it as "one of the noblest benefactions of his lifetime." We hope to realize a medical breakthrough that will be worthy of the same praise.
> 
> On behalf of the E.  Matilda Ziegler Foundation Board I sincerely thank you for your loyal readership over our many years.
> 
> Cynthia Ziegler Brighton
> President
> 
> 
> This email was sent to rbacchus228 at gmail.com.
> If you are no longer interested you can unsubscribe instantly:
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From jhud7789 at outlook.com  Mon Jul 28 20:15:30 2014
From: jhud7789 at outlook.com (Joeph Hudson)
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:15:30 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] thanks and well done.
In-Reply-To: <0N9E00DU1JFB9E70@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0N9E00DU1JFB9E70@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <BLU405-EAS229A60BC05D47277CDD344ECEFB0@phx.gbl>

Hi, if you look really closely at which messages replying to his right applying to a message that David Andrew sent. Hope that helps you.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 27, 2014, at 10:10 PM, "sami osborne via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Ok first of all, Justin, who exactly is it you are talking to?
> 
> Without someone's name, nobody has any idea who you're addressing...  You simply addressed this person as "sir."
> 
> When you post something like this, I advise you to please include whoever's name in your message, so that everybody knows who you're talking about.
> 
> Second, does something like this really belong on list? If you're sending a message to someone directly, it is better to contact them off list in my opinion.
> 
> Not trying to sound rude just giving my personal opinion.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sami.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: justin williams via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> To: "'David Andrews via nabs-l'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 20:30:06 -0400
> Subject: [nabs-l] thanks and well done.
> 
> I like the way you just handled that sir.
> 
> One should be able to make people aware of what they do, but that is it.
> 
> I like your style.
> 
> Thank you and well done.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Wed Jul 30 17:29:06 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:29:06 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
Message-ID: <794F67901B3F4FDDBF15AFEAF4078F6D@robert9999b7cf>

How has Braille impacted your life, and do you believe your life would be different had you not learned Braille? If you were talking with a person who is going blind, and they asked you, "Why do I need to learn Braille?" What would you say to  them? RJ Sandefur, Doctor of theology, Andersonville theological seminary

From matt.dierckens at me.com  Wed Jul 30 17:31:47 2014
From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:31:47 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
In-Reply-To: <794F67901B3F4FDDBF15AFEAF4078F6D@robert9999b7cf>
References: <794F67901B3F4FDDBF15AFEAF4078F6D@robert9999b7cf>
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You need to learn how to spell. A speech synthesizer can't teach someone how to spell per say.
Also, if you get tired of hearing synthetic speech all day you can use braille.

Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 30, 2014, at 13:29, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> How has Braille impacted your life, and do you believe your life would be different had you not learned Braille? If you were talking with a person who is going blind, and they asked you, "Why do I need to learn Braille?" What would you say to  them? RJ Sandefur, Doctor of theology, Andersonville theological seminary
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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Wed Jul 30 17:48:18 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Manners, Derek)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:48:18 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
In-Reply-To: <EEF2BCC2-BF79-477B-A8AB-4970CE3B8AC3@me.com>
References: <794F67901B3F4FDDBF15AFEAF4078F6D@robert9999b7cf>
	<EEF2BCC2-BF79-477B-A8AB-4970CE3B8AC3@me.com>
Message-ID: <CAAP4LJr8tcLv2OuLh+8s8g-7ncBVV+Ghvp3NF=ozovyNMzrZvw@mail.gmail.com>

Part of the drawback of being visually impaired or blind is that a lot of
things in the world are geared toward those with site.  Like any other tool
in the blind toolkit, braille is a workaround for a number of issues that
we all face or have the potential to face.  It can alert you that you are
about to enter the wrong gendered restroom or the wrong room number. it can
let you enjoy the sensation of reading a paper book instead of having to
have someone read it to you. It can allow you to send hand-written notes to
those who would appreciate a personal touch. In general, it can help you
maintain your independence and individualism despite the loss of site.


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> You need to learn how to spell. A speech synthesizer can't teach someone
> how to spell per say.
> Also, if you get tired of hearing synthetic speech all day you can use
> braille.
>
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>
> On Jul 30, 2014, at 13:29, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
> > How has Braille impacted your life, and do you believe your life would
> be different had you not learned Braille? If you were talking with a person
> who is going blind, and they asked you, "Why do I need to learn Braille?"
> What would you say to  them? RJ Sandefur, Doctor of theology, Andersonville
> theological seminary
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From desai1shikha at gmail.com  Wed Jul 30 17:52:17 2014
From: desai1shikha at gmail.com (Shikha)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:52:17 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
In-Reply-To: <794F67901B3F4FDDBF15AFEAF4078F6D@robert9999b7cf>
References: <794F67901B3F4FDDBF15AFEAF4078F6D@robert9999b7cf>
Message-ID: <0C45C0A9-146F-40EA-9A8F-D909D27516C0@gmail.com>

I would say that you need Braille for taking notes when your technology dies, you needed to become a better speller and no more vocabulary, and you will be more proficient when you get a job if you know how to read braille. Shikha. 

> On Jul 30, 2014, at 1:29 PM, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> How has Braille impacted your life, and do you believe your life would be different had you not learned Braille? If you were talking with a person who is going blind, and they asked you, "Why do I need to learn Braille?" What would you say to  them? RJ Sandefur, Doctor of theology, Andersonville theological seminary
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From gera1027 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 30 18:00:28 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:00:28 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
In-Reply-To: <EEF2BCC2-BF79-477B-A8AB-4970CE3B8AC3@me.com>
References: <794F67901B3F4FDDBF15AFEAF4078F6D@robert9999b7cf>
	<EEF2BCC2-BF79-477B-A8AB-4970CE3B8AC3@me.com>
Message-ID: <53D932BC.4040400@gmail.com>

  No headphones needed, thus while on the bus, car or whatever, always 
being alert to surroundings; also the people won't always get the 
impression you're always listening to music, with the earphones on.

El 30/07/2014 12:31 p.m., Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l escribió:
> You need to learn how to spell. A speech synthesizer can't teach someone how to spell per say.
> Also, if you get tired of hearing synthetic speech all day you can use braille.
>
> Matthew Dierckens
> Macintosh Trainer
> Blind Access Training
> www.blindaccesstraining.com
> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>
> On Jul 30, 2014, at 13:29, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>  wrote:
>
>> How has Braille impacted your life, and do you believe your life would be different had you not learned Braille? If you were talking with a person who is going blind, and they asked you, "Why do I need to learn Braille?" What would you say to  them? RJ Sandefur, Doctor of theology, Andersonville theological seminary
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From dsmithnfb at gmail.com  Wed Jul 30 18:03:37 2014
From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com (Darian Smith)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 11:03:37 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
In-Reply-To: <CAAP4LJr8tcLv2OuLh+8s8g-7ncBVV+Ghvp3NF=ozovyNMzrZvw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <794F67901B3F4FDDBF15AFEAF4078F6D@robert9999b7cf>
	<EEF2BCC2-BF79-477B-A8AB-4970CE3B8AC3@me.com>
	<CAAP4LJr8tcLv2OuLh+8s8g-7ncBVV+Ghvp3NF=ozovyNMzrZvw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F82F4D5C-9620-4AC4-B206-95D6A7853D3A@gmail.com>

RJ and all:
 
 I think that Braille is a very important tool for someone who is blind (no matter what  visual acuity).
 It is essential if you don’t have access to the printed word, but even if you do, it allows you the flexibility to operate in a more efficient manner than  just simply having access to print or braille by it’s self.
  
 Something that often gets lost in discussions of independence and the tools you need is the  Importance of the use  of the Long White cane.
  Now  granted  there are quite a few different types of canes and the one you end up using ultimately comes  down to personal  preference,  but in my view we would be remiss  if we only mentioned braille and not  mention  cane use.
 both tools  are ways to  go about living the life you want, and being armed with these tools  as soon as you can get them can only serve to benefit a person.
  So, while this was a question about braille, I don’t know if it can only be a question  of braille by it’s self because both the ability to be literate and be mobile  are essential to the blind  as much as it is our sighted peers.
   respectfully,
  Darian                   
On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Manners, Derek via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Part of the drawback of being visually impaired or blind is that a lot of
> things in the world are geared toward those with site.  Like any other tool
> in the blind toolkit, braille is a workaround for a number of issues that
> we all face or have the potential to face.  It can alert you that you are
> about to enter the wrong gendered restroom or the wrong room number. it can
> let you enjoy the sensation of reading a paper book instead of having to
> have someone read it to you. It can allow you to send hand-written notes to
> those who would appreciate a personal touch. In general, it can help you
> maintain your independence and individualism despite the loss of site.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <
> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>> You need to learn how to spell. A speech synthesizer can't teach someone
>> how to spell per say.
>> Also, if you get tired of hearing synthetic speech all day you can use
>> braille.
>> 
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 13:29, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> How has Braille impacted your life, and do you believe your life would
>> be different had you not learned Braille? If you were talking with a person
>> who is going blind, and they asked you, "Why do I need to learn Braille?"
>> What would you say to  them? RJ Sandefur, Doctor of theology, Andersonville
>> theological seminary
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From kmaent1 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 30 18:07:43 2014
From: kmaent1 at gmail.com (Karl Martin Adam)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 14:07:43 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
Message-ID: <53d9348d.4884e00a.6523.5feb@mx.google.com>

And if you're going to do any kind of higher math you need 
Nemeth, and if you want to learn music theory you need to know 
music Braille.  Also if you want to edit your written work, it's 
much easier to do on a Braille display than with text to speech.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Manners, Derek via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: Matthew Dierckens <matt.dierckens at me.com>, National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:48:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about braille

Part of the drawback of being visually impaired or blind is that 
a lot of
things in the world are geared toward those with site.  Like any 
other tool
in the blind toolkit, braille is a workaround for a number of 
issues that
we all face or have the potential to face.  It can alert you that 
you are
about to enter the wrong gendered restroom or the wrong room 
number. it can
let you enjoy the sensation of reading a paper book instead of 
having to
have someone read it to you. It can allow you to send 
hand-written notes to
those who would appreciate a personal touch. In general, it can 
help you
maintain your independence and individualism despite the loss of 
site.


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <
nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

 You need to learn how to spell. A speech synthesizer can't teach 
someone
 how to spell per say.
 Also, if you get tired of hearing synthetic speech all day you 
can use
 braille.

 Matthew Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
 matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
 Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover 
course
 available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
 http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

 On Jul 30, 2014, at 13:29, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l 
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
 wrote:

 How has Braille impacted your life, and do you believe your life 
would
 be different had you not learned Braille? If you were talking 
with a person
 who is going blind, and they asked you, "Why do I need to learn 
Braille?"
 What would you say to  them? RJ Sandefur, Doctor of theology, 
Andersonville
 theological seminary
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From rbacchus228 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 30 19:23:34 2014
From: rbacchus228 at gmail.com (Roanna Bacchus)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:23:34 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
Message-ID: <53d94654.a6c2ec0a.454e.ffffb905@mx.google.com>

Hi Rj this is a great question.  Braille has had a tremendous 
impact on my life.  I use braille on a daily basis to read and 
write documents, type on my IPad, send emails, surf the net, and 
schedule appointments.  I also use braille to take my exams at 
school.  If a person who is going blind ask why they should learn 
br, I would tell them that they need braille in order to read and 
write.


From lilliepennington at fuse.net  Wed Jul 30 19:43:04 2014
From: lilliepennington at fuse.net (Lillie Pennington)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:43:04 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
In-Reply-To: <53d94654.a6c2ec0a.454e.ffffb905@mx.google.com>
References: <53d94654.a6c2ec0a.454e.ffffb905@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <35AE7970-B316-437C-831E-5B3F91E64ED4@fuse.net>

If you are blind or visually impaired, and unless you can comfortable reading print, if you cannot read Braille you are essentially illiterate. I personally would not need any other reason.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 30, 2014, at 3:23 PM, Roanna Bacchus via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Rj this is a great question.  Braille has had a tremendous impact on my life.  I use braille on a daily basis to read and write documents, type on my IPad, send emails, surf the net, and schedule appointments.  I also use braille to take my exams at school.  If a person who is going blind ask why they should learn br, I would tell them that they need braille in order to read and write.
> 
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From mikgephart at icloud.com  Wed Jul 30 19:44:33 2014
From: mikgephart at icloud.com (Mikayla Gephart)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:44:33 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Problems with school
Message-ID: <97DE3FEF-991F-4560-9F71-208DB5577481@icloud.com>

Hi,
Last minute, I had to change schools due to problems with the old school. The new school was very receptive, and on the last day of school, the change was final. Now, I am waiting on an aide. They were looking internally, and still are. They are hesitant to hire anybody who they have not hired before, which is impeeding progress. The aide needs to be trained. The silliest thing of all is that it is posted under Summer school, and the position title is "Special Education Aide, Brailling Equiptment Training". That makes no sense at all. My mom put a call into the school. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks.
Mikayla 

Sent from my iPad

From gera1027 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 30 20:06:52 2014
From: gera1027 at gmail.com (Gerardo Corripio)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:06:52 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] US English Computer Braille code?
Message-ID: <53D9505C.3060300@gmail.com>

  HI guys
It's been a long time since I came back here from the States, that I've 
gotten a chance to read anything in Braille, thus need to refresh my 
memory on how the computer code is written, for when I get my Apex; the 
dot, the at-sign and the slash how are they done, and what other signs 
might be useful, would appreciate info, or somewhere where I could get a 
table of these?

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From marissat789 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 30 20:27:28 2014
From: marissat789 at gmail.com (Marissa Tejeda)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 13:27:28 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] US English Computer Braille code?
Message-ID: <53d9555b.6741440a.428c.ffff8757@mx.google.com>

Here=20are=20a=20few:

The=20slash=20sign=20is=20dots=203-4,=20the=20S=20T=20sign.
The=20"at"=20sign=20is=20space=20with=20u,=20(1-3-6),=20followed=20by=20the=
=20dot=204.
The=20capital=20sign=20is=20space=20with=20u,=20(1-3-6),=20followed=20by=20=
the=20letter=20
you=20want=20capitalized.
The=20period=20is=20dots=204-6.
The=20exclamation=20mark=20is=202-3-4-6,=20(the=20=20the=20sign).
A=20comma=20is=20dot=206.
An=20apostrophe=20is=20dot=203.
The=20dollar=20sign=20is=201-2-4-6.
The=20plus=20sign=20is=203-4-6.
The=20double=20quote=20is=20dot=205.
The=20single=20quote=20=20is=20dot=204.
The=20left=20parenthesis=20is=201-2-3-5-6,=20(the=20sign=20for=20of)
The=20right=20parenthesis=20is=202-3-4-5-6,=20(the=20sign=20for
with).
1,=20is=20dot=202.
2=20is=20dots=202-3.
3=20is=20dot=202-5.
4=20is=20dots=202-5-6.
5=20is=20dots=202-6.
6=20is=20dots=202-3-6.
7=20is=20dots=202-3-5-6.
8=20is=20dots=202-3-6.
9=20is=20dots=203-5.
0=20is=20dots=202-5-6.
The=20colon=20is=20dots=201-5-6,=20(the=20sign=20for=20wh).
The=20sign=20for=20less=20than=20is=201-2-6.
The=20sighn=20for=20greater=20than=20is=203-4-5.
The=20bar=20sign=20is=201-2-5-6.
The=20left=20brace=20is=202-4-6.
The=20right=20brace=20is=201-2-4-5-6.
The=20equals=20sign=20is=20a=20full=20cell,=201-2-3-4-5-6.
The=20question=20mark=20is=201-4-5-6.



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To:=20National=20Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Wed,=2030=20Jul=202014=2015:06:52=20-0500
Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20US=20English=20Computer=20Braille=20code?

=20=20HI=20guys
It's=20been=20a=20long=20time=20since=20I=20came=20back=20here=20from=20the=
=20States,=20
that=20I've
gotten=20a=20chance=20to=20read=20anything=20in=20Braille,=20thus=20need=20=
to=20refresh=20
my
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From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Wed Jul 30 21:23:14 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:23:14 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] edified access
Message-ID: <64EEDC96C7914DE8A01B171BAADD29F9@robert9999b7cf>

Hay guys, Here's a websight I think you guys would be interested in!
www.edifiedaccess.info
It is a blind man assisting blind people with their assistive tech devices! He does podcasts. www.edifiedaccess.info/radio for the live internet stream!
Mr. Barnhill also has a teamtalk server.
www.edifiedaccess.info/teamtalk

RJ

From matt.dierckens at me.com  Wed Jul 30 23:40:33 2014
From: matt.dierckens at me.com (Matthew Dierckens)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:40:33 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] edified access
In-Reply-To: <64EEDC96C7914DE8A01B171BAADD29F9@robert9999b7cf>
References: <64EEDC96C7914DE8A01B171BAADD29F9@robert9999b7cf>
Message-ID: <C5B87BB0-12AB-4BAA-AA65-1E052919A9CD@me.com>

Yes, Matt is a good guy. I'm actually going to have him on my podcast soon.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 30, 2014, at 17:23, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hay guys, Here's a websight I think you guys would be interested in!
> www.edifiedaccess.info
> It is a blind man assisting blind people with their assistive tech devices! He does podcasts. www.edifiedaccess.info/radio for the live internet stream!
> Mr. Barnhill also has a teamtalk server.
> www.edifiedaccess.info/teamtalk
> 
> RJ
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From franks.jonathan13 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 01:19:56 2014
From: franks.jonathan13 at gmail.com (jonathan franks)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:19:56 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
In-Reply-To: <F82F4D5C-9620-4AC4-B206-95D6A7853D3A@gmail.com>
References: <794F67901B3F4FDDBF15AFEAF4078F6D@robert9999b7cf>
	<EEF2BCC2-BF79-477B-A8AB-4970CE3B8AC3@me.com>
	<CAAP4LJr8tcLv2OuLh+8s8g-7ncBVV+Ghvp3NF=ozovyNMzrZvw@mail.gmail.com>
	<F82F4D5C-9620-4AC4-B206-95D6A7853D3A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHEy+8U8U3n+hrMyVZUjPLfjq3vue8_9VC4ZbqTL0WyJPBnfEQ@mail.gmail.com>

To be honest at first I hated Braille.

Then one day something clicked in my head and I realized that Braille
is an essential tool I will need to use for the rest of my life.

Those who cannot read print need to utilize braille as a reading
medium so they can keep up with their sighted counterpart in a
literacy sense. It not only comes in handy with reading books, you can
also label your things such as DVD’s and food.

Braille has also come in handy for me while I am at my College. I use
it to be able to find my classrooms and read other building signs.

My philosophy is that if you can learn braille, you should. Technology
is a great tool, but technology is not always going to work and you do
not need batteries or a charger to be able to read braille.



On 7/30/14, Darian Smith via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> RJ and all:
>
>  I think that Braille is a very important tool for someone who is blind (no
> matter what  visual acuity).
>  It is essential if you don’t have access to the printed word, but even if
> you do, it allows you the flexibility to operate in a more efficient manner
> than  just simply having access to print or braille by it’s self.
>
>  Something that often gets lost in discussions of independence and the tools
> you need is the  Importance of the use  of the Long White cane.
>   Now  granted  there are quite a few different types of canes and the one
> you end up using ultimately comes  down to personal  preference,  but in my
> view we would be remiss  if we only mentioned braille and not  mention  cane
> use.
>  both tools  are ways to  go about living the life you want, and being armed
> with these tools  as soon as you can get them can only serve to benefit a
> person.
>   So, while this was a question about braille, I don’t know if it can only
> be a question  of braille by it’s self because both the ability to be
> literate and be mobile  are essential to the blind  as much as it is our
> sighted peers.
>    respectfully,
>   Darian
> On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Manners, Derek via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Part of the drawback of being visually impaired or blind is that a lot of
>> things in the world are geared toward those with site.  Like any other
>> tool
>> in the blind toolkit, braille is a workaround for a number of issues that
>> we all face or have the potential to face.  It can alert you that you are
>> about to enter the wrong gendered restroom or the wrong room number. it
>> can
>> let you enjoy the sensation of reading a paper book instead of having to
>> have someone read it to you. It can allow you to send hand-written notes
>> to
>> those who would appreciate a personal touch. In general, it can help you
>> maintain your independence and individualism despite the loss of site.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <
>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> You need to learn how to spell. A speech synthesizer can't teach someone
>>> how to spell per say.
>>> Also, if you get tired of hearing synthetic speech all day you can use
>>> braille.
>>>
>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>> Blind Access Training
>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 13:29, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How has Braille impacted your life, and do you believe your life would
>>> be different had you not learned Braille? If you were talking with a
>>> person
>>> who is going blind, and they asked you, "Why do I need to learn
>>> Braille?"
>>> What would you say to  them? RJ Sandefur, Doctor of theology,
>>> Andersonville
>>> theological seminary
>>>> _______________________________________________
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-- 
Jonathan Franks
Austin Chapter Board Member
National Federation of the Blind
www.nfbaustin.org

Hook the Cure Board Member
Social Media Manager
The University of Texas at Austin
www.texashookthecure.weebly.co

Diabetes Action Network (NFB)
National Board Member


From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 01:27:59 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:27:59 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
References: <794F67901B3F4FDDBF15AFEAF4078F6D@robert9999b7cf><EEF2BCC2-BF79-477B-A8AB-4970CE3B8AC3@me.com><CAAP4LJr8tcLv2OuLh+8s8g-7ncBVV+Ghvp3NF=ozovyNMzrZvw@mail.gmail.com><F82F4D5C-9620-4AC4-B206-95D6A7853D3A@gmail.com>
	<CAHEy+8U8U3n+hrMyVZUjPLfjq3vue8_9VC4ZbqTL0WyJPBnfEQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <947B68E2F1A249F58882EFCFDD04DE2F@robert9999b7cf>

My Friend can use her cane, but when I mention braille, she tells me she 
doesn't need it. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jonathan franks via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind 
Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about braille


> To be honest at first I hated Braille.
>
> Then one day something clicked in my head and I realized that Braille
> is an essential tool I will need to use for the rest of my life.
>
> Those who cannot read print need to utilize braille as a reading
> medium so they can keep up with their sighted counterpart in a
> literacy sense. It not only comes in handy with reading books, you can
> also label your things such as DVD’s and food.
>
> Braille has also come in handy for me while I am at my College. I use
> it to be able to find my classrooms and read other building signs.
>
> My philosophy is that if you can learn braille, you should. Technology
> is a great tool, but technology is not always going to work and you do
> not need batteries or a charger to be able to read braille.
>
>
>
> On 7/30/14, Darian Smith via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> RJ and all:
>>
>>  I think that Braille is a very important tool for someone who is blind 
>> (no
>> matter what  visual acuity).
>>  It is essential if you don’t have access to the printed word, but even 
>> if
>> you do, it allows you the flexibility to operate in a more efficient 
>> manner
>> than  just simply having access to print or braille by it’s self.
>>
>>  Something that often gets lost in discussions of independence and the 
>> tools
>> you need is the  Importance of the use  of the Long White cane.
>>   Now  granted  there are quite a few different types of canes and the 
>> one
>> you end up using ultimately comes  down to personal  preference,  but in 
>> my
>> view we would be remiss  if we only mentioned braille and not  mention 
>> cane
>> use.
>>  both tools  are ways to  go about living the life you want, and being 
>> armed
>> with these tools  as soon as you can get them can only serve to benefit a
>> person.
>>   So, while this was a question about braille, I don’t know if it can 
>> only
>> be a question  of braille by it’s self because both the ability to be
>> literate and be mobile  are essential to the blind  as much as it is our
>> sighted peers.
>>    respectfully,
>>   Darian
>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Manners, Derek via nabs-l 
>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Part of the drawback of being visually impaired or blind is that a lot 
>>> of
>>> things in the world are geared toward those with site.  Like any other
>>> tool
>>> in the blind toolkit, braille is a workaround for a number of issues 
>>> that
>>> we all face or have the potential to face.  It can alert you that you 
>>> are
>>> about to enter the wrong gendered restroom or the wrong room number. it
>>> can
>>> let you enjoy the sensation of reading a paper book instead of having to
>>> have someone read it to you. It can allow you to send hand-written notes
>>> to
>>> those who would appreciate a personal touch. In general, it can help you
>>> maintain your independence and individualism despite the loss of site.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <
>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You need to learn how to spell. A speech synthesizer can't teach 
>>>> someone
>>>> how to spell per say.
>>>> Also, if you get tired of hearing synthetic speech all day you can use
>>>> braille.
>>>>
>>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>>> Blind Access Training
>>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 13:29, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How has Braille impacted your life, and do you believe your life would
>>>> be different had you not learned Braille? If you were talking with a
>>>> person
>>>> who is going blind, and they asked you, "Why do I need to learn
>>>> Braille?"
>>>> What would you say to  them? RJ Sandefur, Doctor of theology,
>>>> Andersonville
>>>> theological seminary
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
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>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>
>
> -- 
> Jonathan Franks
> Austin Chapter Board Member
> National Federation of the Blind
> www.nfbaustin.org
>
> Hook the Cure Board Member
> Social Media Manager
> The University of Texas at Austin
> www.texashookthecure.weebly.co
>
> Diabetes Action Network (NFB)
> National Board Member
>
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From dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu  Thu Jul 31 01:54:09 2014
From: dmanners at jd16.law.harvard.edu (Derek Manners)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 21:54:09 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Problems with school
In-Reply-To: <97DE3FEF-991F-4560-9F71-208DB5577481@icloud.com>
References: <97DE3FEF-991F-4560-9F71-208DB5577481@icloud.com>
Message-ID: <0933E994-7D32-4A62-9F9F-09B8E07FF2BC@jd16.law.harvard.edu>

Has anyone gotten back to you about this?  If not, feel free to call me, 9032716494. I'm not the most qualified person but I'll find someone that can help you out  

Best
Derek Manners
9032716494

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 30, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Mikayla Gephart via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Last minute, I had to change schools due to problems with the old school. The new school was very receptive, and on the last day of school, the change was final. Now, I am waiting on an aide. They were looking internally, and still are. They are hesitant to hire anybody who they have not hired before, which is impeeding progress. The aide needs to be trained. The silliest thing of all is that it is posted under Summer school, and the position title is "Special Education Aide, Brailling Equiptment Training". That makes no sense at all. My mom put a call into the school. Any suggestions would be great. Thanks.
> Mikayla 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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From marissat789 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 02:41:27 2014
From: marissat789 at gmail.com (Marissa Tejeda)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:41:27 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
Message-ID: <53d9ad03.c81a450a.4f03.ffffa8d6@mx.google.com>


I=20am=20the=20opposite.
I=20have=20been=20reading=20braille=20since=20in=20kinnder=20garden,=20I=20=
think.
Where=20as=20when=20it=20comes=20to=20the=20cane,=20I'm=20not=20the=20most=
=20willing=20to=20
use=20it.


=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20RJ=20Sandefur=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20"jonathan=20franks"=20<franks.jonathan13 at gmail.com>,"National=20
Association=20of=20Blind=20Students=20mailing=20list"=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Wed,=2030=20Jul=202014=2021:27:59=20-0400
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20question=20about=20braille

My=20Friend=20can=20use=20her=20cane,=20but=20when=20I=20mention=20braille,=
=20she=20tells=20
me=20she
doesn't=20need=20it.=20=20RJ
-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20"jonathan=20franks=20via=20nabs-l"=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20"Darian=20Smith"=20<dsmithnfb at gmail.com>;=20"National=20Association=20=

of=20Blind
Students=20mailing=20list"=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent:=20Wednesday,=20July=2030,=202014=209:19=20PM
Subject:=20Re:=20[nabs-l]=20question=20about=20braille


=20To=20be=20honest=20at=20first=20I=20hated=20Braille.

=20Then=20one=20day=20something=20clicked=20in=20my=20head=20and=20I=20real=
ized=20that=20
Braille
=20is=20an=20essential=20tool=20I=20will=20need=20to=20use=20for=20the=20re=
st=20of=20my=20life.

=20Those=20who=20cannot=20read=20print=20need=20to=20utilize=20braille=20as=
=20a=20reading
=20medium=20so=20they=20can=20keep=20up=20with=20their=20sighted=20counterp=
art=20in=20a
=20literacy=20sense.=20=20It=20not=20only=20comes=20in=20handy=20with=20rea=
ding=20books,=20
you=20can
=20also=20label=20your=20things=20such=20as=20DVD=E2=80=99s=20and=20food.

=20Braille=20has=20also=20come=20in=20handy=20for=20me=20while=20I=20am=20a=
t=20my=20College.=20=20
I=20use
=20it=20to=20be=20able=20to=20find=20my=20classrooms=20and=20read=20other=20=
building=20
signs.

=20My=20philosophy=20is=20that=20if=20you=20can=20learn=20braille,=20you=20=
should.=20=20
Technology
=20is=20a=20great=20tool,=20but=20technology=20is=20not=20always=20going=20=
to=20work=20and=20
you=20do
=20not=20need=20batteries=20or=20a=20charger=20to=20be=20able=20to=20read=20=
braille.



=20On=207/30/14,=20Darian=20Smith=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org>=20wr=
ote:
=20RJ=20and=20all:

=20=20I=20think=20that=20Braille=20is=20a=20very=20important=20tool=20for=20=
someone=20who=20
is=20blind
=20(no
=20matter=20what=20=20visual=20acuity).
=20=20It=20is=20essential=20if=20you=20don=E2=80=99t=20have=20access=20to=20=
the=20printed=20word,=20
but=20even
=20if
=20you=20do,=20it=20allows=20you=20the=20flexibility=20to=20operate=20in=20=
a=20more=20
efficient
=20manner
=20than=20=20just=20simply=20having=20access=20to=20print=20or=20braille=20=
by=20it=E2=80=99s=20
self.

=20=20Something=20that=20often=20gets=20lost=20in=20discussions=20of=20inde=
pendence=20
and=20the
=20tools
=20you=20need=20is=20the=20=20Importance=20of=20the=20use=20=20of=20the=20L=
ong=20White=20cane.
=20=20=20Now=20=20granted=20=20there=20are=20quite=20a=20few=20different=20=
types=20of=20canes=20
and=20the
=20one
=20you=20end=20up=20using=20ultimately=20comes=20=20down=20to=20personal=20=
=20preference,=20=20
but=20in
=20my
=20view=20we=20would=20be=20remiss=20=20if=20we=20only=20mentioned=20braill=
e=20and=20not=20=20
mention
=20cane
=20use.
=20=20both=20tools=20=20are=20ways=20to=20=20go=20about=20living=20the=20li=
fe=20you=20want,=20and=20
being
=20armed
=20with=20these=20tools=20=20as=20soon=20as=20you=20can=20get=20them=20can=
=20only=20serve=20to=20
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=20only
=20be=20a=20question=20=20of=20braille=20by=20it=E2=80=99s=20self=20because=
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=20as=20much=20as=20
it=20is=20our
=20sighted=20peers.
=20=20=20=20respectfully,
=20=20=20Darian
=20On=20Jul=2030,=202014,=20at=2010:48=20AM,=20Manners,=20Derek=20via=20nab=
s-l
=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20wrote:

=20Part=20of=20the=20drawback=20of=20being=20visually=20impaired=20or=20bli=
nd=20is=20that=20
a=20lot
=20of
=20things=20in=20the=20world=20are=20geared=20toward=20those=20with=20site.=
=20=20Like=20any=20
other
=20tool
=20in=20the=20blind=20toolkit,=20braille=20is=20a=20workaround=20for=20a=20=
number=20of=20
issues
=20that
=20we=20all=20face=20or=20have=20the=20potential=20to=20face.=20=20It=20can=
=20alert=20you=20
that=20you
=20are
=20about=20to=20enter=20the=20wrong=20gendered=20restroom=20or=20the=20wron=
g=20room=20
number.=20=20it
=20can
=20let=20you=20enjoy=20the=20sensation=20of=20reading=20a=20paper=20book=20=
instead=20of=20
having=20to
=20have=20someone=20read=20it=20to=20you.=20=20It=20can=20allow=20you=20to=
=20send=20
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=20to
=20those=20who=20would=20appreciate=20a=20personal=20touch.=20=20In=20gener=
al,=20it=20can=20
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=20maintain=20your=20independence=20and=20individualism=20despite=20the=20l=
oss=20of=20
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=20On=20Wed,=20Jul=2030,=202014=20at=201:31=20PM,=20Matthew=20Dierckens=20v=
ia=20nabs-l=20<
=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org>=20wrote:

=20You=20need=20to=20learn=20how=20to=20spell.=20=20A=20speech=20synthesize=
r=20can't=20
teach
=20someone
=20how=20to=20spell=20per=20say.
=20Also,=20if=20you=20get=20tired=20of=20hearing=20synthetic=20speech=20all=
=20day=20you=20
can=20use
=20braille.

=20Matthew=20Dierckens
=20Macintosh=20Trainer
=20Blind=20Access=20Training
=20www.blindaccesstraining.com
=201-877-774-7670,=20extension=203
=20matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
=20Introduction=20to=20the=20Macintosh=20Operating=20system=20and=20voiceov=
er=20
course
=20available=20now.=20=20Spots=20are=20limited,=20sign=20up=20here
=20http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

=20On=20Jul=2030,=202014,=20at=2013:29,=20RJ=20Sandefur=20via=20nabs-l=20
<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
=20wrote:

=20How=20has=20Braille=20impacted=20your=20life,=20and=20do=20you=20believe=
=20your=20life=20
would
=20be=20different=20had=20you=20not=20learned=20Braille?=20If=20you=20were=
=20talking=20
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=20person
=20who=20is=20going=20blind,=20and=20they=20asked=20you,=20"Why=20do=20I=20=
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=20What=20would=20you=20say=20to=20=20them?=20RJ=20Sandefur,=20Doctor=20of=
=20theology,
=20Andersonville
=20theological=20seminary
=20_______________________________________________
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=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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=20To=20unsubscribe,=20change=20your=20list=20options=20or=20get=20your=20a=
ccount=20
info=20for
=20nabs-l:

=20
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s%40me.com

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=20To=20unsubscribe,=20change=20your=20list=20options=20or=20get=20your=20a=
ccount=20
info=20for
=20nabs-l:

=20
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16.law.harvard.edu

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ccount=20
info=20for
=20nabs-l:
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=20_______________________________________________
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ccount=20
info=20for
=20nabs-l:
=20
http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/franks.jonath
an13%40gmail.com



=20--
=20Jonathan=20Franks
=20Austin=20Chapter=20Board=20Member
=20National=20Federation=20of=20the=20Blind
=20www.nfbaustin.org

=20Hook=20the=20Cure=20Board=20Member
=20Social=20Media=20Manager
=20The=20University=20of=20Texas=20at=20Austin
=20www.texashookthecure.weebly.co

=20Diabetes=20Action=20Network=20(NFB)
=20National=20Board=20Member

=20_______________________________________________
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=20nabs-l at nfbnet.org
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From helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 02:46:18 2014
From: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com (helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:46:18 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa
Message-ID: <9E51B6C96C80428FA9323A1070A67D58@Helga>

Hi Marissa!, this is Helga! How are you? I just wanted to ask you, are you still subscribe to the BrailleNote Users List? I’m just wondering. The reason I’m asking you that is because I don’t know if I’m subscribe to it because I’m not receiving emails from them! Could you find out if I’m in the BN User Mailing list? And Please, Can you write me off list about this since I don’t want to clutter the NABS list with an of topic message ok? Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks and God bless!  
Helga Schreiber 

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind Students 
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research 

Phone: (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
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"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
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From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 02:51:11 2014
From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:51:11 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
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Hi, RJ and all,

I really like the points Lillie and Jonathan have pointed out, as they
are more along the lines as of what I would say as well.  Like
Jonathan, I hated braille when I first started learning it.  I was a
kid who had been taught to read print for two years, and although I
knew it was significantly harder for me to read than my it was for my
classmates, I figured at least I didn't look different.  I kicked and
screamed my way through learning the braille code, and about a year
after that I stopped fighting my TVIs and realized that I liked to
read.  Braille is not the devider between us and those who can read
print, it is the equalizer.  This is becoming even more true with the
signing of the Marakesh Treaty last year, and more and more
information becoming available in electronic braille.

Some others have made great points about braille and technology as
well.  Sure, you could use an IPAD and dictate everything, and use a
computer, but your spelling would be terrible.  I don't know about you
all, but I have enough problems with spelling as a braille-literate
person who just types slower than she thinks without throwing
illiteracy into the problem.  I wouldn't necessarily say it is easier
to edit with a braille display than it is to edit using a computer and
screenreader because myself and other people I know are proficient
editors in both mediums and it boils down to personal preference, but
if you don't know braille you are exposed to proper spelling and
grammar less frequently than your peers, and are therefore likely to
not catch errors at all.  You also are in a very bleak situation when
your IPad breaks, or when your scribe is sick and can't write for you;
not to mention the job prospects are a lot worse since you do not have
basic literacy skills.  For many blind people, braille literacy is the
thing which helps them earn a job since they have that other tool in
their arsenal.  Plus, without braille you can't even take full
advantage of the technology including BrailleNote and BrailleSense
notetakers, braille displays which can be connected to
computers/tablets and smart phones, and labels on equipment your
employer might put on to help you complete tasks.  You are also unable
to learn other codes for music, mathematics, advanced scientific
notation, etc.  Additionally, you lose the capability to just read a
book if you want to.  I have to say that I always have my notetaker
packed with books whenever I'm on a long car or bus trip simply
because bringing it along gives me something to do.  I can read in the
car like my sighted siblings do with their books and magazines, while
carrying on conversations or listening to the radio because I don't
have earbuds in my ears.

Ultimately, a sighted person makes use of literacy and technology, so
why shouldn't a blind person?  Sighted people clearly need both
skills, and we do too in order to live independent lives.  That is all
the reason I would need.  Hope this helps.

On 7/30/14, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> My Friend can use her cane, but when I mention braille, she tells me she
> doesn't need it. RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jonathan franks via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind
> Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about braille
>
>
>> To be honest at first I hated Braille.
>>
>> Then one day something clicked in my head and I realized that Braille
>> is an essential tool I will need to use for the rest of my life.
>>
>> Those who cannot read print need to utilize braille as a reading
>> medium so they can keep up with their sighted counterpart in a
>> literacy sense. It not only comes in handy with reading books, you can
>> also label your things such as DVD's and food.
>>
>> Braille has also come in handy for me while I am at my College. I use
>> it to be able to find my classrooms and read other building signs.
>>
>> My philosophy is that if you can learn braille, you should. Technology
>> is a great tool, but technology is not always going to work and you do
>> not need batteries or a charger to be able to read braille.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/30/14, Darian Smith via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> RJ and all:
>>>
>>>  I think that Braille is a very important tool for someone who is blind
>>> (no
>>> matter what  visual acuity).
>>>  It is essential if you don't have access to the printed word, but even
>>> if
>>> you do, it allows you the flexibility to operate in a more efficient
>>> manner
>>> than  just simply having access to print or braille by it's self.
>>>
>>>  Something that often gets lost in discussions of independence and the
>>> tools
>>> you need is the  Importance of the use  of the Long White cane.
>>>   Now  granted  there are quite a few different types of canes and the
>>> one
>>> you end up using ultimately comes  down to personal  preference,  but in
>>> my
>>> view we would be remiss  if we only mentioned braille and not  mention
>>> cane
>>> use.
>>>  both tools  are ways to  go about living the life you want, and being
>>> armed
>>> with these tools  as soon as you can get them can only serve to benefit a
>>> person.
>>>   So, while this was a question about braille, I don't know if it can
>>> only
>>> be a question  of braille by it's self because both the ability to be
>>> literate and be mobile  are essential to the blind  as much as it is our
>>> sighted peers.
>>>    respectfully,
>>>   Darian
>>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Manners, Derek via nabs-l
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Part of the drawback of being visually impaired or blind is that a lot
>>>> of
>>>> things in the world are geared toward those with site.  Like any other
>>>> tool
>>>> in the blind toolkit, braille is a workaround for a number of issues
>>>> that
>>>> we all face or have the potential to face.  It can alert you that you
>>>> are
>>>> about to enter the wrong gendered restroom or the wrong room number. it
>>>> can
>>>> let you enjoy the sensation of reading a paper book instead of having to
>>>> have someone read it to you. It can allow you to send hand-written notes
>>>> to
>>>> those who would appreciate a personal touch. In general, it can help you
>>>> maintain your independence and individualism despite the loss of site.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <
>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You need to learn how to spell. A speech synthesizer can't teach
>>>>> someone
>>>>> how to spell per say.
>>>>> Also, if you get tired of hearing synthetic speech all day you can use
>>>>> braille.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>>>> Blind Access Training
>>>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>>>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>>>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 13:29, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How has Braille impacted your life, and do you believe your life would
>>>>> be different had you not learned Braille? If you were talking with a
>>>>> person
>>>>> who is going blind, and they asked you, "Why do I need to learn
>>>>> Braille?"
>>>>> What would you say to  them? RJ Sandefur, Doctor of theology,
>>>>> Andersonville
>>>>> theological seminary
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/matt.dierckens%40me.com
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Jonathan Franks
>> Austin Chapter Board Member
>> National Federation of the Blind
>> www.nfbaustin.org
>>
>> Hook the Cure Board Member
>> Social Media Manager
>> The University of Texas at Austin
>> www.texashookthecure.weebly.co
>>
>> Diabetes Action Network (NFB)
>> National Board Member
>>
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>>
>
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-- 
Kaiti


From marissat789 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 02:58:29 2014
From: marissat789 at gmail.com (Marissa Tejeda)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:58:29 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa
Message-ID: <53d9b101.61ae440a.64c3.ffffabd0@mx.google.com>


I=20am=20subscribed,=20yes.
You=20may=20have=20gotten=20unsubscribed.=20=20Simpley=20send=20an=20email,=
=20with=20
the=20subject
"subscribe"
to:
braillenote-request at freelists.org




=20-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
From:=20Helga=20=20via=20nabs-l=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To:=20<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date=20sent:=20Wed,=2030=20Jul=202014=2022:46:18=20-0400
Subject:=20[nabs-l]=20This=20Message=20is=20for=20Marissa

Hi=20Marissa!,=20this=20is=20Helga!=20How=20are=20you?=20I=20just=20wanted=
=20to=20ask=20
you,=20are=20you=20still=20subscribe=20to=20the=20BrailleNote=20Users=20Lis=
t?=20I=E2=80=99m=20
just=20wondering.=20=20The=20reason=20I=E2=80=99m=20asking=20you=20that=20i=
s=20because=20I=20
don=E2=80=99t=20know=20if=20I=E2=80=99m=20subscribe=20to=20it=20because=20I=
=E2=80=99m=20not=20receiving=20
emails=20from=20them!=20Could=20you=20find=20out=20if=20I=E2=80=99m=20in=20=
the=20BN=20User=20
Mailing=20list?=20And=20Please,=20Can=20you=20write=20me=20off=20list=20abo=
ut=20this=20
since=20I=20don=E2=80=99t=20want=20to=20clutter=20the=20NABS=20list=20with=
=20an=20of=20topic=20
message=20ok?=20Hope=20to=20hear=20from=20you=20soon.=20=20Thanks=20and=20G=
od=20bless!
Helga=20Schreiber

Fundraiser=20Coordinator=20for=20Phi=20Theta=20Kappa,=20Alpha=20Delta=20Iot=
a=20
chapter
Member=20of=20National=20Federation=20of=20the=20Blind=20and=20Florida=20
Association=20of=20Blind=20Students
Member=20of=20The=20International=20Networkers=20Team=20(INT)
Independent=20Entrepreneur=20of=20the=20Company=204Life=20Research

Phone:=20(561)=20706-5950
Email:=20helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype:=20helga.schreiber26
4Life=20Website:=20http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT=20Website:=20http://int4life.com/

"For=20God=20so=20loved=20the=20world=20that=20he=20gave=20his=20one=20and=
=20only=20Son,=20
that=20whoever=20believes=20in=20him=20shall=20not=20perish=20but=20have=20=
eternal=20
life."=20John=203:16



From joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 03:11:29 2014
From: joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com (RJ Sandefur)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 23:11:29 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa
References: <9E51B6C96C80428FA9323A1070A67D58@Helga>
Message-ID: <9C616C2DE1AA4F51A321521C33A3930D@robert9999b7cf>

Helga, your messeges are blink it seems like.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Helga via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:46 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa


> _______________________________________________
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> 



From ligne14 at verizon.net  Thu Jul 31 03:16:09 2014
From: ligne14 at verizon.net (sami osborne)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 23:16:09 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa
Message-ID: <0N9K00EW83R96840@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net>

Hi Helga, Marrisa and all,

Sorry to go slightly off-topic but I just want to ask, this 
BrailleNote Users List, is not an NFBNET list? Since the site of 
the email is freelists.org? Also, I'm just curious, is David 
Andrews also the owner of those lists as well?

I'm just wondering since I believe this is the first time that 
I'm hereing about this group of lists, and as an expert 
BrailleNote user myself, I would be interested in joining this 
list.

Thanks,

Sami.


 ----- Original Message -----
From: Marissa Tejeda via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com,	National Association of Blind 
Students 
mailinglist<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:58:29 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa


I am subscribed, yes.
You may have gotten unsubscribed.  Simpley send an email, with
the subject
"subscribe"
to:
braillenote-request at freelists.org




 ----- Original Message -----
From: Helga  via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:46:18 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa

Hi Marissa!, this is Helga! How are you? I just wanted to ask
you, are you still subscribe to the BrailleNote Users List? I??
just wondering.  The reason I?? asking you that is because I
don?? know if I?? subscribe to it because I?? not receiving
emails from them! Could you find out if I?? in the BN User
Mailing list? And Please, Can you write me off list about this
since I don?? want to clutter the NABS list with an of topic
message ok? Hope to hear from you soon.  Thanks and God bless!
Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota
chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida
Association of Blind Students
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

Phone: (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal
life." John 3:16





From marissat789 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 03:24:02 2014
From: marissat789 at gmail.com (Marissa Tejeda)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:24:02 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] The Braille Note Users list
Message-ID: <53d9b6fd.0a60460a.6b6f.ffffac78@mx.google.com>

Hi all,

I am posting this here because some people are having questions 
about the braillenote users list.

The Braillenote users, (BNU), list is for people who have any 
kind of Braille Note.  We talk about the Braille Note, if you 
have questions about it.  If there are questions or concerns 
about the Braillenote, users post to this list to get help from 
others.

To subscribe, send an email to:

braillenote-request at freelists.org

With the subject of:
subscribe


Hope  to see you there


From marissat789 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 03:42:50 2014
From: marissat789 at gmail.com (Marissa Tejeda)
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:42:50 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa
Message-ID: <53d9bb65.a95e460a.1b79.ffffa7a9@mx.google.com>


I'm getting them.
Basically, she just wanted to know why she was unsubscribed from 
the braillenote users list and how.


 ----- Original Message -----
From: RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: <helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com>,"National Association of Blind 
Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 23:11:29 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa

Helga, your messeges are blink it seems like.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Helga via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:46 PM
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa


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From kaybaycar at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 16:07:00 2014
From: kaybaycar at gmail.com (Julie McGinnity)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 11:07:00 -0500
Subject: [nabs-l] question about braille
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References: <794F67901B3F4FDDBF15AFEAF4078F6D@robert9999b7cf>
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	<CAFja7FZEyAnuDjT6UEZB0kGzrQu8KgzwkQYX2a5Tz2H7_yOLvA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHox4DL7UdN_csVgmN8dto4bA6oR4QSvgkNPJ6bz-+8jDvnxqw@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with Kaiti and others.  I would also add that reading out loud
is an essential skill that you cannot accomplish unless you read
Braille.  With Braille, I can connect my Braille note to my iphone,
turn off speech, and text and check email all without Voice Over
yammering on and on.  It's great for during meetings or in loud
situations when you shouldn't or can't use speech.  And sometimes, you
just want to write a text rather than dictate it.


I also couldn't imagine going through math classes and getting a music
major without Braille.

On 7/30/14, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi, RJ and all,
>
> I really like the points Lillie and Jonathan have pointed out, as they
> are more along the lines as of what I would say as well.  Like
> Jonathan, I hated braille when I first started learning it.  I was a
> kid who had been taught to read print for two years, and although I
> knew it was significantly harder for me to read than my it was for my
> classmates, I figured at least I didn't look different.  I kicked and
> screamed my way through learning the braille code, and about a year
> after that I stopped fighting my TVIs and realized that I liked to
> read.  Braille is not the devider between us and those who can read
> print, it is the equalizer.  This is becoming even more true with the
> signing of the Marakesh Treaty last year, and more and more
> information becoming available in electronic braille.
>
> Some others have made great points about braille and technology as
> well.  Sure, you could use an IPAD and dictate everything, and use a
> computer, but your spelling would be terrible.  I don't know about you
> all, but I have enough problems with spelling as a braille-literate
> person who just types slower than she thinks without throwing
> illiteracy into the problem.  I wouldn't necessarily say it is easier
> to edit with a braille display than it is to edit using a computer and
> screenreader because myself and other people I know are proficient
> editors in both mediums and it boils down to personal preference, but
> if you don't know braille you are exposed to proper spelling and
> grammar less frequently than your peers, and are therefore likely to
> not catch errors at all.  You also are in a very bleak situation when
> your IPad breaks, or when your scribe is sick and can't write for you;
> not to mention the job prospects are a lot worse since you do not have
> basic literacy skills.  For many blind people, braille literacy is the
> thing which helps them earn a job since they have that other tool in
> their arsenal.  Plus, without braille you can't even take full
> advantage of the technology including BrailleNote and BrailleSense
> notetakers, braille displays which can be connected to
> computers/tablets and smart phones, and labels on equipment your
> employer might put on to help you complete tasks.  You are also unable
> to learn other codes for music, mathematics, advanced scientific
> notation, etc.  Additionally, you lose the capability to just read a
> book if you want to.  I have to say that I always have my notetaker
> packed with books whenever I'm on a long car or bus trip simply
> because bringing it along gives me something to do.  I can read in the
> car like my sighted siblings do with their books and magazines, while
> carrying on conversations or listening to the radio because I don't
> have earbuds in my ears.
>
> Ultimately, a sighted person makes use of literacy and technology, so
> why shouldn't a blind person?  Sighted people clearly need both
> skills, and we do too in order to live independent lives.  That is all
> the reason I would need.  Hope this helps.
>
> On 7/30/14, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> My Friend can use her cane, but when I mention braille, she tells me she
>> doesn't need it. RJ
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "jonathan franks via nabs-l" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>; "National Association of Blind
>> Students mailing list" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 9:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] question about braille
>>
>>
>>> To be honest at first I hated Braille.
>>>
>>> Then one day something clicked in my head and I realized that Braille
>>> is an essential tool I will need to use for the rest of my life.
>>>
>>> Those who cannot read print need to utilize braille as a reading
>>> medium so they can keep up with their sighted counterpart in a
>>> literacy sense. It not only comes in handy with reading books, you can
>>> also label your things such as DVD's and food.
>>>
>>> Braille has also come in handy for me while I am at my College. I use
>>> it to be able to find my classrooms and read other building signs.
>>>
>>> My philosophy is that if you can learn braille, you should. Technology
>>> is a great tool, but technology is not always going to work and you do
>>> not need batteries or a charger to be able to read braille.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/30/14, Darian Smith via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> RJ and all:
>>>>
>>>>  I think that Braille is a very important tool for someone who is blind
>>>> (no
>>>> matter what  visual acuity).
>>>>  It is essential if you don't have access to the printed word, but even
>>>> if
>>>> you do, it allows you the flexibility to operate in a more efficient
>>>> manner
>>>> than  just simply having access to print or braille by it's self.
>>>>
>>>>  Something that often gets lost in discussions of independence and the
>>>> tools
>>>> you need is the  Importance of the use  of the Long White cane.
>>>>   Now  granted  there are quite a few different types of canes and the
>>>> one
>>>> you end up using ultimately comes  down to personal  preference,  but
>>>> in
>>>> my
>>>> view we would be remiss  if we only mentioned braille and not  mention
>>>> cane
>>>> use.
>>>>  both tools  are ways to  go about living the life you want, and being
>>>> armed
>>>> with these tools  as soon as you can get them can only serve to benefit
>>>> a
>>>> person.
>>>>   So, while this was a question about braille, I don't know if it can
>>>> only
>>>> be a question  of braille by it's self because both the ability to be
>>>> literate and be mobile  are essential to the blind  as much as it is
>>>> our
>>>> sighted peers.
>>>>    respectfully,
>>>>   Darian
>>>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 10:48 AM, Manners, Derek via nabs-l
>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Part of the drawback of being visually impaired or blind is that a lot
>>>>> of
>>>>> things in the world are geared toward those with site.  Like any other
>>>>> tool
>>>>> in the blind toolkit, braille is a workaround for a number of issues
>>>>> that
>>>>> we all face or have the potential to face.  It can alert you that you
>>>>> are
>>>>> about to enter the wrong gendered restroom or the wrong room number.
>>>>> it
>>>>> can
>>>>> let you enjoy the sensation of reading a paper book instead of having
>>>>> to
>>>>> have someone read it to you. It can allow you to send hand-written
>>>>> notes
>>>>> to
>>>>> those who would appreciate a personal touch. In general, it can help
>>>>> you
>>>>> maintain your independence and individualism despite the loss of site.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l <
>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You need to learn how to spell. A speech synthesizer can't teach
>>>>>> someone
>>>>>> how to spell per say.
>>>>>> Also, if you get tired of hearing synthetic speech all day you can
>>>>>> use
>>>>>> braille.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matthew Dierckens
>>>>>> Macintosh Trainer
>>>>>> Blind Access Training
>>>>>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>>>>>> 1-877-774-7670, extension 3
>>>>>> matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
>>>>>> Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
>>>>>> available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
>>>>>> http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2014, at 13:29, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How has Braille impacted your life, and do you believe your life
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be different had you not learned Braille? If you were talking with a
>>>>>> person
>>>>>> who is going blind, and they asked you, "Why do I need to learn
>>>>>> Braille?"
>>>>>> What would you say to  them? RJ Sandefur, Doctor of theology,
>>>>>> Andersonville
>>>>>> theological seminary
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nabs-l mailing list
>>>>>>> nabs-l at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nabs-l_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>> nabs-l:
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nabs-l:
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>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nabs-l_nfbnet.org/dmanners%40jd16.law.harvard.edu
>>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jonathan Franks
>>> Austin Chapter Board Member
>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>> www.nfbaustin.org
>>>
>>> Hook the Cure Board Member
>>> Social Media Manager
>>> The University of Texas at Austin
>>> www.texashookthecure.weebly.co
>>>
>>> Diabetes Action Network (NFB)
>>> National Board Member
>>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
> --
> Kaiti
>
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>


-- 
Julie McG
National Association of Guide dog Users board member,  National
Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
life."
John 3:16


From crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 20:35:25 2014
From: crazy4clarinet104 at gmail.com (Kaiti Shelton)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:35:25 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] Braille Production Sites.
Message-ID: <CAFja7FYsnjgymxpTKLdRNAhnYUoU4OnKedRmE=Akdq50hhBo=Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I am hoping some of you might have some great ideas which could
greatly help my state's student division.  The Ohio Association of
Blind Students, OABS, is working on launching a long-term fundraiser.
We would sell braille bookmarks featuring a design of the NFB on one
side, along with a blurb about our division, and a braille alphabet
with a message sighted readers can unscramble on the other.  The issue
we're facing is finding a place that can produce these braille
bookmarks for us, as we want them to be professionally made.  We have
thought to ask Horizons, National Braille Press, and two local
agencies in our area.  We are going to ask one of the agencies again
as they have recently undergone some staffing changes, but I'm just
putting feelers out for other ideas just in case they are still unable
to take on the job.  I think this could be a great fundraiser for the
division if we can find a company who is willing to produce the
bookmarks and work with us.  Any suggestions would be very much
appreciated.

Thanks,
Kaiti Shelton.
President, Ohio Association of Blind Students.

-- 
Kaiti


From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 31 20:53:58 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:53:58 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] edified access
In-Reply-To: <C5B87BB0-12AB-4BAA-AA65-1E052919A9CD@me.com>
References: <64EEDC96C7914DE8A01B171BAADD29F9@robert9999b7cf>
	<C5B87BB0-12AB-4BAA-AA65-1E052919A9CD@me.com>
Message-ID: <F05D03FB61EC4FC582EE38A79D4A28D2@OwnerPC>

Hi,
who is Mat? also, you have a podcast. How do you do a podcast?
I don't know how to  subscribe to one, let alone make one. but I'd like to 
learn. can you do the recordings with the free software from online sites?

Thanks.
Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:40 PM
To: RJ Sandefur ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] edified access

Yes, Matt is a good guy. I'm actually going to have him on my podcast soon.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course 
available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 30, 2014, at 17:23, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hay guys, Here's a websight I think you guys would be interested in!
> www.edifiedaccess.info
> It is a blind man assisting blind people with their assistive tech 
> devices! He does podcasts. www.edifiedaccess.info/radio for the live 
> internet stream!
> Mr. Barnhill also has a teamtalk server.
> www.edifiedaccess.info/teamtalk
>
> RJ
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From bookwormahb at earthlink.net  Thu Jul 31 21:07:03 2014
From: bookwormahb at earthlink.net (Ashley Bramlett)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 17:07:03 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa
In-Reply-To: <0N9K00EW83R96840@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net>
References: <0N9K00EW83R96840@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net>
Message-ID: <11A41BBD3FB34D029399B189744BC5D9@OwnerPC>

if the end of the list address is not @nfbnet.org, it is not an nfb list.
NFB does not have technology lists for the braille note or any technology.

-----Original Message----- 
From: sami osborne via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:16 PM
To: Marissa Tejeda ; National Association of BlindStudents mailing list ; 
helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa

Hi Helga, Marrisa and all,

Sorry to go slightly off-topic but I just want to ask, this
BrailleNote Users List, is not an NFBNET list? Since the site of
the email is freelists.org? Also, I'm just curious, is David
Andrews also the owner of those lists as well?

I'm just wondering since I believe this is the first time that
I'm hereing about this group of lists, and as an expert
BrailleNote user myself, I would be interested in joining this
list.

Thanks,

Sami.


----- Original Message -----
From: Marissa Tejeda via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com, National Association of Blind
Students
mailinglist<nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:58:29 -0700
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa


I am subscribed, yes.
You may have gotten unsubscribed.  Simpley send an email, with
the subject
"subscribe"
to:
braillenote-request at freelists.org




----- Original Message -----
From: Helga  via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 22:46:18 -0400
Subject: [nabs-l] This Message is for Marissa

Hi Marissa!, this is Helga! How are you? I just wanted to ask
you, are you still subscribe to the BrailleNote Users List? I??
just wondering.  The reason I?? asking you that is because I
don?? know if I?? subscribe to it because I?? not receiving
emails from them! Could you find out if I?? in the BN User
Mailing list? And Please, Can you write me off list about this
since I don?? want to clutter the NABS list with an of topic
message ok? Hope to hear from you soon.  Thanks and God bless!
Helga Schreiber

Fundraiser Coordinator for Phi Theta Kappa, Alpha Delta Iota
chapter
Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida
Association of Blind Students
Member of The International Networkers Team (INT)
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research

Phone: (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreiber26 at gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,
that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal
life." John 3:16




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From dwebster125 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 31 21:11:06 2014
From: dwebster125 at gmail.com (Dave Webster)
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:11:06 -0700
Subject: [nabs-l] edified access
In-Reply-To: <F05D03FB61EC4FC582EE38A79D4A28D2@OwnerPC>
References: <64EEDC96C7914DE8A01B171BAADD29F9@robert9999b7cf>
	<C5B87BB0-12AB-4BAA-AA65-1E052919A9CD@me.com>
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Hi Ashley.  My name is Dave.  I noticed in your message you said you didn't
know how to subscribe to a podcast.  I can help you with that if you want.
Just send me an email and maybe we can get on skype and I can walk you
through how to do it with itunes.

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett
via nabs-l
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:54 PM
To: Matthew Dierckens; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] edified access

Hi,
who is Mat? also, you have a podcast. How do you do a podcast?
I don't know how to  subscribe to one, let alone make one. but I'd like to
learn. can you do the recordings with the free software from online sites?

Thanks.
Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Dierckens via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:40 PM
To: RJ Sandefur ; National Association of Blind Students mailing list
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] edified access

Yes, Matt is a good guy. I'm actually going to have him on my podcast soon.
Matthew Dierckens
Macintosh Trainer
Blind Access Training
www.blindaccesstraining.com
1-877-774-7670, extension 3
matthew at blindaccesstraining.com
Introduction to the Macintosh Operating system and voiceover course
available now. Spots are limited, sign up here
http://blindaccesstraining.com/training-courses/

On Jul 30, 2014, at 17:23, RJ Sandefur via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Hay guys, Here's a websight I think you guys would be interested in!
> www.edifiedaccess.info
> It is a blind man assisting blind people with their assistive tech 
> devices! He does podcasts. www.edifiedaccess.info/radio for the live 
> internet stream!
> Mr. Barnhill also has a teamtalk server.
> www.edifiedaccess.info/teamtalk
>
> RJ
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