[nabs-l] Chemistry Braille Code

Fri Jun 6 01:41:56 UTC 2014

Hello all
Chris this is something that I am glad you brought up, I wish I had a
kem book in braille, I'm taking it in the fall and since I am a online
student my school doesn't use any form of online text books or print
text books, FLVS which I think stands for Florda virtual schools is
the ones who create the content, if you find anything that might help,
please give me a call on my cell num or on Skype.

thanks

On 6/5/14, Katie Wang via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I took chemistry way back when I was a sophomore in high school, but
> as others have said I don't think you need to be too concerned  about
> this. Assuming that you are already familiar with the Nemeth code and
> that you will have access to a braille textbook, you should be able to
> learn the new braille symbols as they are introduced throughout the
> course. Getting a braille copy of the periodic table is  essential,
> and you would most likely want to spend some time getting acquainted
> with it at the beginning of the semester as you will need to use it to
> look up all sorts of information for nearly every exam/assignment. I
> did find representing all the atomic/molecular structures in braille
> extremely cumbersome and benefited a lot from working with my
> chemistry teacher one-on-one before or after school using tactile
> models.
>
> Hope this helps!
> Katie
>
>
> On 6/5/14, Lillie Pennington via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> The reason i asked about drawing was because I used the chemistry kit
>> from
>> APH in my pcombination chemistry and physics class this year and loved it
>> and found it extremely helpful.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 5, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Kaiti Shelton via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Chris,
>>>
>>> It has been several years since my TVI went on a crusade of teaching
>>> me the chem code, and I have forgotten a lot of it since I had no
>>> desire to take Chem in high school and have no need to take it in
>>> college, but I remember there were a few key things I saw all the time
>>> when learning it.  It might be helpful if your TVI can look up some
>>> basic chemical structures like ionic bonds, covalent bonds, etc.  A
>>> lot of these use the bar over symbol, or the one five six if it is
>>> known by other names.  I agree with others that you can use drawing
>>> kits and other tactile methods to show the structures, and for me I
>>> wish I would have had one of those methods.  I did use a little
>>> chemistry code in 10th grade biology, and having knowledge of the code
>>> didn't really do me any favors when I was asked to draw ionic bonds
>>> and such because I had no idea what they looked like.  I think to have
>>> a better understanding of chemistry it is more beneficial to know the
>>> structure of atoms and bonds and such rather than to have the braille
>>> code nailed.
>>>
>>> Also, do check out Math Gems as Cindi suggested.  It's a great resource.
>>>
>>>> On 6/5/14, Cindy Bennett via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>
>>>> I am far removed from chemistry as I did not study that in college,
>>>> but I do remember the beginning of chemistry class with my braille
>>>> textbook. There was never an explicit IEP goal for me to learn
>>>> chemistry code, and although I had learned Nemeth, I had learned a
>>>> subset of Nemeth based on the classes I had taken pretty informally
>>>> through my textbooks. So I did encounter some symbols that I did not
>>>> know the meaning of. The most helpful thing I did was to ask someone
>>>> next to me to read a couple of chemistry equations out loud. As they
>>>> read the equation, I was able to parse which symbols were indicators
>>>> of changes from letters to numbers and which symbols actually
>>>> represented the numbers and element abbreviations. I was very
>>>> frustrated before it occurred to me to ask someone for a bit of help,
>>>> but after 5 minutes, I understood the notation. I think that as you go
>>>> through your class and consider whether you want to take more advanced
>>>> chemistry, you can take initiative to seek out more complex Nemeth
>>>> symbols, but in my memory, I don't remember the quick lesson on
>>>> notations putting me behind.
>>>>
>>>> If your textbook has arrived, you can of course take a volume home
>>>> just for fun and begin to figure it out yourself.
>>>>
>>>> I also highly recommend that you get a periodic table in braille,
>>>> super important!
>>>>
>>>> I used a Velcro kit to make chemical structures and to represent
>>>> bonds. Differently shaped Velcro pieces allowed for variety and I
>>>> could indicate on a key what the shapes meant whether they represented
>>>> different elements or different parts of an atom. I used skinny Velcro
>>>> strips to represent bonds and placed multiple strips between atoms
>>>> depending on what type of bond it was.
>>>>
>>>> When I was in high school, I wrote out my homework and quizzes on my
>>>> laptop and my teacher and I had an understanding of how I would
>>>> textually represent a symbol if there was a symbol that was difficult
>>>> to make, but I did the superscript numbers just fine. You could of
>>>> course consider learning LaTex to assist you with making the more
>>>> complex symbols which could be a summer project. There is a lot of
>>>> support for LaTex in general as well as through the blind math
>>>> community.
>>>>
>>>> Finally, when I was reading the Jernigan newsletter this morning, I
>>>> was reminded of the organized blindmath archives called Blind Gems.
>>>> Check them out on blindscience.org.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/5/14, Aleeha Dudley via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I used a tactile drawing kit to draw anything that I needed to in my
>>>>> chemistry courses. The chemistry code is incorporated into nemeth so
>>>>> that
>>>>> shouldn't be a huge problem if you have a Braille  textbook.
>>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>>> Aleeha
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Lillie Pennington via nabs-l
>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Chris
>>>>>> I am taking chem next year and if I recall correctly my teacher told
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> that there were no special symbols. I could try seeing if the
>>>>>> electronic
>>>>>> copy of my textbook raises any Braille red flags. I know everyone's
>>>>>> situation is different but I would suspect that the courses are
>>>>>> similar.
>>>>>> There are also files with the symbols for the various Braille codes
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> did not find particularly helpful because they did not encompass all
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the symbols I needed to know.
>>>>>> Btw, do you have a periodic table and a way to draw atoms?
>>>>>> Hth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Chris Nusbaum via nabs-l
>>>>>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good Morning Everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope everyone is having a wonderful start to the summer season and
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> those of us who must still try to conquer end-of-school burnout are
>>>>>>> overcoming it or at least trying to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I'm taking Chemistry 1 next year and trying to prepare. I'm told
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> there is a specific Braille code used for chemistry, which I think
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> part of the Nemeth Code. One of my IEP goals for this year is to
>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>> the code in preparation for my class next semester. However, my TVI
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> not know the choistry code very well at all and therefore has not
>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>> started work on it. So my question is this: how detailed is the
>>>>>>> chemistry
>>>>>>> code, if there in fact is one? To those of you who have taken
>>>>>>> chemistry
>>>>>>> courses, did learning the Braille code require much preparation time
>>>>>>> prior to the start of the class? Like other math subjects, could I
>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>> the relevant symbols as I need them in the class and not fall
>>>>>>> behind?
>>>>>>> My
>>>>>>> concern is that with only a week of school left, I will not be able
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> have the time I need to learn the code and could begin the course
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> very limited knowledge of the code I need to use. I would appreciate
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> and all thoughts from those who have experience with chemistry and
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> associated Braille code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>> Chris Nusbaum
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>
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