[nabs-l] Exhibitors and Scams
Peter Donahue
pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com
Mon Mar 31 00:50:15 UTC 2014
Good evening again everyone,
If they're attempting to destroy our expensive adaptive technology and
otherwise disrupt the show and make fools of themselves I believe we have
grounds for ask that they be removed from the show. This has nothing to do
with the NFB-ACB matter but disrespect for another exhibitor. Had such an
incident happened at our national convention such a Klan would have been
delt with post haste. If they left us along we would have respected their
right to be there and everyone would have had a good time. As for the
aledged scammer you need only listen to the news headlines to know why
there is cause for dealing with such an individual before they could do
their dirty work on other attendees. I hope that clears things up.
Peter Donahue
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From: "Jamie Principato" <blackbyrdfly at gmail.com>
To: "National Association of Blind Students mailing list"
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Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Success and Why I Left the NFB
> This is exactly the problem I have with the way some within the
> organization play the political game. The feud with the ACB is nothing but
> a distraction. It's a tool to give a cub set of members something to rally
> behind, because nothing says "I'm a dedicated member of the in-group" like
> sharing a common out-group rival.
>
> And why do you need a computer with internet connection for verification,
> simply to be a respectful individual and hear a colleague's proposal?
> Stating that you run a company is not by any means sufficient to scam
> anyone. And you can always check when you get home if you're so inclined,
> but to turn them away entirely and claim it is because your laptop isn't
> handy makes me suspect another motive for turning away a member of the
> out-group.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 30, 2014, at 2:47 PM, "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Good afternoon everyone,
>>
>> I have a few thoughts on this thread. First no one likes anyone who runs
>> from a fight. Health, work, and other issues can get in the way of
>> serving in the organization but there are other ways to stay involved.
>> People are only pushed to the side is they believe they are and don't
>> find other ways to stay involved. They become lion prey rather than
>> becoming or remaining lion chasers.
>>
>> The shunning we've seen is of those who lack blindness skills being
>> offered the opportunity to learn them from those who just happen to be
>> NFB members. My advice to such individuals is that of Judge Judy "Get
>> over it!" If learning to use a computer, honing your Braille skills,
>> becoming a better traveler will help you become more independent and
>> create new career opportunities for God sakes except their offers of help
>> regardless of whose camp they come from.
>>
>> As for this whole NFB VS ACB junk particularly when ACB members like to
>> bring up stuff that happened 50 or 60 years ago they have been served
>> notice from us that such conversations are off limits and they would do
>> well to "Get over it" and that we're not interested in hearing it. On a
>> few occasions we had several of them removed from our home due to the
>> conversation getting out-of-control. And it didn't bother us to see them
>> pay a $50 cab fare to get home to teach them that continuing to engage in
>> this kind of non-productive garbage can become a very expensive
>> proposition.
>>
>> On several occasions our chapter exhibited at a local resource fair for
>> those with low vision. Both NFB and ACB had booths at this event. Some of
>> us went by the ACB table to say hello. At no time did we attempt to harm
>> their display or interfear with their activities in any way. They did not
>> return the favor. One year several of their members tried to knock over
>> our table which had a number of expensive notetakers on it. Our president
>> at the time should have had the backbone to notify show officials and
>> have them removed from the event but didn't. On another occasion one of
>> these ACB folks tried to tell us he was the president of a new company we
>> may be interested in learning about. Since we did not have a laptop with
>> an Internet connection present to verify his story or not we were unable
>> to do anything about it. Had we searched for the name of his company and
>> found no reference to it online it's possible we could have had him
>> kicked out for promoting a scam during the expo. By now you know that we
>> have no patience with those who misrepresent themselves by atempting to
>> promote a fraudulant company or engage in destructive behavior. The
>> individual I referred to in this paragraph has served as the Alamo
>> Council of the Blind's President.
>>
>> On the other hand if they wish to learn about various programs and
>> services offered by the federation, learn about the BELL Program for
>> example, our STEM Initiative, or if they would like an opportunity to
>> ride in a car driven by a blind driver we're game for the conversation.
>> Yes I know this is rather heavy-handed but there's some history behind
>> why we've taken such a hard line with these people. It can be best
>> summarized in a paraphraise of some words of a song by the late Stompin
>> Tom Conners:
>> "That there may never elsewhere be,
>> Another Philadelphia tragedy,
>> Another philadelphia tragety."
>>
>> The words above refer to an insident I and several other individuals
>> were involved in during our 2001 Convention in Philadelphia Pennsylvania.
>> Disagreements and philosophies among organizations of the blind helped
>> lead up to this incident. Since taking such a hard stance against those
>> who have nothing better to do than to run away from battles, sit on
>> fences, etc there has never been another incident of that kind involving
>> us. We had a close call in 2012 but heeded the warning signs and took
>> action prior to that year's national convention to fend it off. Thanks to
>> our alertness that national convention went without a hitch.
>>
>> Another thing that disturbs us is the ACB's attempts to undermind our
>> programs and activities in some states. Did anyone tell them that this is
>> America and they're free to establish programs and operate them as they
>> see fit instead of attempting to scuttle the hard work of others?They
>> attempted to quash NFB Newsline in a few states. If they didn't like the
>> way the Newsline Program operates they're free to begin a similar program
>> and operate it as they choose. Fortunately since we now host The Braille
>> Forum I would hope it's got them thinking twice about that one.
>>
>> One thing that could help bring about greater unity in the blind
>> community is if more agency directors had more backbone and laid out to
>> all potential partners for a program they're considering the criteria
>> these partners will need to satisfy for consideration instead of feeling
>> like they need to be all things to all consumer groups of the blind.
>> Again this is America and we're a free enterprise society. If someone
>> wishes to be considered to assist with a program or to help fill a need
>> they need to meet the criteria for consideration. For example if a host
>> agency decides that immersion training is to be used in the operation of
>> a particular program or service anyone wishing to partner with this
>> agency will need to endorse immersion training or they will not be
>> considered as a venture partner. Thus if ACB wants to be a partner in the
>> operation of a program or service offered by a blindness agency that
>> chooses to use immersion training they'll need to over hall their
>> philosophy and adopt immersion training as a viable way to operate a
>> program. If they're unwilling to do that they will be filtered and would
>> do well not to complain that they were left out of consideration and
>> would do well to refrain from trying to undermind the activities of such
>> an agency because they were unwilling to adapt their approach and
>> philosophy to meet changing conditions and needs of the blind. Again we
>> have no patience with losers according to our standards!
>>
>> As for Joe's point about fundraising part of this one can be traced to
>> the approach to career planning taken by many in the field including the
>> NFB. We hear it every day about how unstable the job market has become
>> yet we still tell people to go to school, get good grades, and you'll
>> land that dream job when we should be taking it a step farther and urge
>> blind individuals, parents, and educators of blind children to develop
>> multiple income channels should something happen to your primary income
>> source and so you will have the funds to support causes such as the
>> activities of the NFB. We're currently working with the mother of a blind
>> child in our area to encourage her to do this so she will be bettter able
>> to meet her blind child's needs as she progresses through school and
>> college and to have financial resources that will last her for her entire
>> life instead of just 40 or 50 years of it if even that given the high
>> unemployment rate we face.
>>
>> And let's not forget aboutthe the high cost of technology, and the
>> refusal of the so-called blindness professionals to teach blind children
>> and adults such valuable skills as Braille and cane travel to name a few.
>> The NFB needs to urge blind persons and parents of blind children to
>> develop multiple income sources so in the event that a school district is
>> unwilling to teach a blind kid Braille no problem. They can hire someone
>> to teach them privately and perhaps provide a job for another blind
>> individual. If necessary they could home-school their blind child and
>> give him/her an education far superior to that offered in many public
>> schools. Likewise if a state agency refuses to fund a blind person to
>> attend one of our centers since we urged them and their families to
>> create ,multiple income streams they could pay for it themselves and to
>> Hell with the rehab system. The more financial resources you have at your
>> disposal that you can control the better you can provide for your blind
>> child or fund the training you yourself wish to obtain.
>>
>> We attend regular information sessions related to one of our ventures.
>> Each week we see many college students at these meetings. They're heeding
>> the advice of those telling them not to put all of their eggs in one
>> basket. These young folks most often referred to as Generation Y or Gen-Y
>> for short understand the value of this advice and are creating multiple
>> income streams for themselves should something happen to them or their
>> career job. Individuals 30 years of age and under are considered to be a
>> part of Gen-Y. Like their sighted Gen-Y counterparts blind individuals
>> should be as intelligent. Consumer organizations of the blind need to
>> become more agressive in this respect and urge blind persons and their
>> families to do likewise.
>>
>>
>> Mary and I have been around professional networking for years. In the
>> late 1970s a blind individual and his wife became very successful in a
>> well-known direct selling business achieving an extremely high level of
>> success. Back then there were no smart phones, no direct delivery of the
>> products in question to his home as there is now, no Internet portals in
>> which one can transact business, yet this individual and his wife built
>> an empire using this concept. The online resources I'm speaking of our
>> accessible and usable by blind entrepreneurs. We have worked closely with
>> the company in question to insure that this is so and they have greatly
>> appreciated our assistance. Given his success one would think other blind
>> individuals would have followed his lead in large numbers given the
>> technology and services now available to those persuing careers in the
>> direct selling industry. We find this state of affairs sad and shameful!
>> This is something that can change in the years ahead. It's not too late.
>> Anyone wanting more information about such opportunities is strongly
>> advised to seek it from credible sources such as attending a meeting like
>> the one mentioned above. Some of our NFB Lists have been used to spread
>> information concerning particular companies that is inaccurate, false,
>> and misleading. We're neither talking about your grandmother's business
>> opportunity or NFB.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the NFB wishes to have increased financial support it needs to change
>> the advice it gives to its members and others with respect to career
>> options and advise blind consumers to create an income to last them a
>> lifetime not just for 50 years of it only to end upon skid row when those
>> years are over. It needs to give the kind of career advice that will
>> allow its members and others to have the resources needed to support its
>> programs and to allow blind individuals to maintain a deasent quality of
>> life. Now I believe I'm spent. All the best everyone.
>>
>> Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>>
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