[nabs-l] Success and Why I Left the NFB

Steve Jacobson steve.jacobson at visi.com
Mon Mar 31 19:41:42 UTC 2014


Joe and others,

It is not my position that anything said about the NFB that is negative is wrong.  Organizations are made up of 
human beings and we are not perfect so our creations are not likely going to be perfect.  Still, some of what one 
person may seem as wrong  isn't so much a matter of right or wrong as perspective and opinion.  We embarked a good 
while back now on an expansion that has resulted in the need to raise more funds than we used to have to raise.  I 
do not think I am alone among NFB supporters in recognizing that this is a risk.  When you look at our budget and 
that of the ACB and then compare legislative successes as you did, Joe, it is certainly clear that legislative 
successes are not 
proportional to one's budget.  Whether I completely agree with legislation ACB passes or not, I recognize that the 
ACB has made contributions.  However, I have felt for some time and I feel particularly more so now that our 
problems can't be solved by legislation alone.  Let's take accessibility, for example.  There is a lot of emphasis 
on getting more legislation passed that will force software to be accessible, for example.  I happen to believe 
this is necessary, but it isn't going to make everything better for us, particularly on the job, all by itself.  
If we are going to make any serious gains, we need to understand the limits of current technology and explore ways 
of getting information that is new.  I am not one who got all excited about being able to drive a car, although I 
certainly hope that blind people can do that at some point.  However, I got very excited about the fact that as a 
result of looking at the problem, we experimented with a number of ways of getting information that had not been 
explored before.  A significant portion of our budget went into the KNFB reader.  At the time, it was something 
nobody was doing, and it was a moving experience when I held up a KNFB reader to the lists of registered people at 
a national convention that were just hanging from a crossbar and have it start to read the content.  There have 
probably been over a thousand kids who have attended science camps of one kind or another through our efforts.  We 
have been able to sponsor other gatherings as well for blind lawyers, teachers, and major players in the 
technology field.  We couldn't have done any of this in the 80's or 90's, and much of this would not have been 
done even now if we hadn't tried it.  

So what's my point, I'm not saying anything new, you know all this.  My point is that a lot of this is about risks 
and perspectives.  We won't know for a long time if some of these efforts will make a difference.  Frankly, I am a 
believer that one learns almost as much from what doesn't work as one learns from what does, because if you make a 
mistake you can eliminate or refine that approach.  Will some of those thousand kids get into math or science 
because of what we did?  Is the OCR in the new HIMS product a little better because of what we did with the KNFB 
reader?  Will we see a really good reader on the iPhone?  Might we ever see a reader that could use artificial 
intelligence to interpret software on a computer screen instead of having to educate every person who writes 
software?  Will some of our efforts mean that there might be a way for us to control the Google self-driving cars 
because of some of the work we did on our own car?  I hope that at least some of the answers are yes, but at this 
point I can't really say.  What I do know is that the smaller dynamic grass roots organization that we were in the 
80's couldn't have had any affect on some of what I've listed above, nor was it the right time for that.  But it 
also means that we change.  Not only do we change, but we make mistakes as we adjust to change.  Joe, what you see 
as a downward spiral, I see as the challenges of change.  I'm not satisfied to say that it has to be that way, 
though.  We can and must learn how to do better, as individuals and as an organization.  

Joe, I think you are right that getting training at one of our centers won't miraculously make life better, and 
the marketing does sometimes imply that.  However, you are wrong to draw conclusions about such training based 
upon the marketing.  Discussing and exploring the uncertainties and challenges of seeking employment as a blind 
person is a big part of what is addressed at BLIND Incorporated here in Minnesota and I assume by our other 
centers.  Some of the point of such training is to encourage the idea that you have to have a set of tools to 
approach a given situation and not just one tool.  Still, we have to do more than run people through training.  
This is true of any single aspectof our challenges, though.  Legislating that software must be accessible and that 
one cannot discriminate based upon a disability was and is still needed, but it won't matter much if we don't have 
training.  Legislation and even training won't matter all that much if we don't get a good basic education.  
Requiring that school districts teach braille won't fix that problem if there are no braille instructors in a 
given area.  You can't pick any one thing out and say that it can lead to success by itself, and you can't see any 
given issue as completely standing on its own.  

I feel that we are in a better position as an organization to impact the complex challenges we face with a larger 
budget than we were.  However, it is more important than ever that we understand where we are going and how our 
philosophy fits in.  The question of what can we change to address the challenges of the world and what do we need 
the world to change is more important than ever, and I don't see anyone asking questions like that outside of this 
organization.  With our strengths and our failings, I think our understanding of asking for help and looking for 
our own solutions is what has set us apart in my mind, and while it is risky, I think that branching out is a risk 
worth taking to try to have a wider impact.  We need the help of all members, though, to handle change.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson



On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 12:57:22 -0600, Jamie Principato wrote:

>Arielle,
>That was a very thoughtful and politically sensitive response. 

>Joe,
>I am pleased to see I am not alone in making these observations furring my own relationship with the NFB. while I 
deeply respect the organization's history and truly appreciate the raw potential the organization has moving 
forward, the passion I joined with back in high school has turned to cautious cynicism. I don't think this 
perspective is bad, though. I think the NFB desperately needs members who can see past the smoke and mirrors of 
PR, and who are willing to discuss issues of blindness and politics in a no-nonsense way that isn't always easy to 
hear. It is a shame though when those of us less willing to toe the line and pander to those with political power 
are treated with hostility by some at the national level, and more still within our local chapters. 

>Sent from my iPhone

>> On Mar 30, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Joe,
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing your experiences. I have not been following the
>> Braille Monitor that closely but I can understand what you are saying
>> about the increased emphasis on fund-raising. I have also felt like
>> the national convention is turning into more of a carnival with all
>> the exhibitors and prizes being given away, and much of banquet that
>> used to focus on philosophy and NFB spirit is now taken up with prize
>> drawings and the like.
>> To be fair, NFB was stronger financially when we joined than it is
>> now, and I understand that some national programs have been cut due to
>> a decrease in revenue from what used to be steady reliable income
>> sources. So NFB may be pushing fund-raising more, but the alternative
>> could be a loss of programs and resources.
>> I have not heard of anyone being blatantly turned away or refused
>> membership in an NFB chapter. If that ever happens it is truly
>> shameful. I do think that sometimes prospective members choose not to
>> join because they perceive hostility from the organization or judgment
>> of their lifestyle choices. I think part of that is perception only,
>> and part of it is reality. The NFB is stereotyped as a radical
>> one-size-fits-all organization, and new members expecting to find that
>> could be especially sensitive to cues of hostility. However, there
>> probably is some real lack of acceptance among certain segments of the
>> organization, which, again, is unfortunate. I will say that I am not
>> the most graceful blind person and was relatively unskilled when I
>> first joined, and I still felt completely accepted. But I know not all
>> of us are so lucky. I would encourage prospective members who have a
>> negative experience to try again in a different chapter or division
>> and perhaps they will find acceptance there. But at the same time,
>> this is something we need to be sensitive to in the organization.
>> 
>> Arielle
>> 
>>> On 3/30/14, Michael Capelle <michael.capelle at frontier.com> wrote:
>>> Hello all.
>>> This is why I am not apart of any "blind movement."  I live my own life,
>>> live my own philosophy, ETC.  I do not believe in a one size fits all
>>> mentality, which is unfurtunately what the NFB does.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RJ Sandefur
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:51 AM
>>> To: jsoro620 at gmail.com ; National Association of Blind Students mailing
>>> list
>>> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Success and Why I Left the NFB
>>> 
>>> Joe, I agree with you. I had to attend both college, and Seminary without
>>> the NFB's help, although it would have been nice to have a mentoor. RJ
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joe" <jsoro620 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'National Association of Blind Students mailing list'"
>>> <nabs-l at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 12:25 PM
>>> Subject: [nabs-l] Success and Why I Left the NFB
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 2006 was the last year I attended a national convention. While there I
>>>> was
>>>> caught up in the ra ra of the movement and felt glad to be in the company
>>>> 
>>>> of
>>>> so many people who could relate to the challenges that awaited me as a
>>>> recent college graduate. I left convention, finished up my summer as a
>>>> counselor in Iowa, and set off for DC to begin my business with the real
>>>> world. I would never take away someone's enthusiasm from attending a
>>>> national convention or Washington Seminar or one of the weekend
>>>> leadership
>>>> seminars in Baltimore. They are very well-suited to boost a person's
>>>> spirit,
>>>> but I believe too many people fall through the cracks when faced with
>>>> reality outside of those infrequent gatherings.
>>>> 
>>>> To be fair, the organization is no different from any other nonprofit
>>>> business. It needs money to sustain itself, and in turn it needs more
>>>> members to help raise the money. Still, I found it rather disappointing
>>>> that
>>>> so much of the board meeting I tuned into listen to last summer was
>>>> dominated by calls to raise money for this fund or that effort. I found
>>>> it
>>>> even sadder that a recent issue of the Braille Monitor, our monthly dose
>>>> of
>>>> inspiration, featured several articles just to the focus of generating
>>>> more
>>>> ways to drum up more financial support, but perhaps the most frustrating
>>>> byproduct of this new NFB are the e-mails from so-called friends from whom
>>>> 
>>>> I
>>>> have not heard in years but boldly ask me to contribute to their NFB
>>>> fundraising campaigns.
>>>> 
>>>> In short, at some point the NFB embraced enterprise and forgot about the
>>>> movement. Between 2006 and 2012 I went on to help lead development
>>>> efforts
>>>> for other nonprofits outside of the blindness field, also national in
>>>> scope.
>>>> They too made fundraising a priority, but it never felt like the top, or
>>>> the
>>>> only, priority. It gets tiresome when we focus on recruiting new blood
>>>> and
>>>> raising new money and forget about strengthening the members and
>>>> resources
>>>> we've already had.
>>>> 
>>>> Nowadays I have the privilege of knowing some excellent blind
>>>> professionals.
>>>> I think they would do well in the NFB. They are smarter than I ever will
>>>> be
>>>> and have accomplished more than I may ever achieve, but they shun the
>>>> organization because they were turned away or because they were never
>>>> welcomed in the first place. It's something I should have kept in mind
>>>> when
>>>> I had my brief taste of leadership in the organization. I had too much of
>>>> 
>>>> a
>>>> mouth on me to ever be anyone's golden child, but I was reliable enough
>>>> to
>>>> get the job done. But, getting the job done should have really meant
>>>> attracting and pulling in these men and women who could have made the NFB
>>>> lots better, listening to new ideas, and most important, remaining true
>>>> to
>>>> the cause and not some multi-million-dollar institute we find ourselves
>>>> incapable of sustaining.
>>>> 
>>>> So, what does any of this have to do with the original post? I don't want
>>>> 
>>>> it
>>>> to ever be said I was a hypocrite. The leadership may as well know what I
>>>> think of them, but more importantly, to the college kids on the verge of
>>>> spreading their own wings, I want you to know the NFB banner will only
>>>> guide
>>>> your way so far. Take what's great about the organization and leave the
>>>> political drama and marketing ploys behind. In the end it will be your
>>>> own
>>>> wits and talents that will earn your pay check. The NFB will never give
>>>> you
>>>> anything new. The philosophy merely helps you uncover what you always had
>>>> 
>>>> to
>>>> be successful. Anything could happen with the new NFB president, and I
>>>> will
>>>> be the first to retract my words if he is brave enough to reverse this
>>>> downward spiral. You see, we no longer live in a world where the NFB is
>>>> necessary for collective momentum. Technology has seen to that. Whether
>>>> or
>>>> not the movement sticks around largely depends on how badly we want it to
>>>> exist.
>>>> 
>>>> Is the ACB doing it any better? That's debatable, but you know what I've
>>>> found from the people I've met on that side of the house? They seem
>>>> happier,
>>>> and that's something we can't seem to figure out in our camp. The few
>>>> victories they celebrate they do with even less money. Let that be a
>>>> lesson
>>>> in financial management to you.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't know what the hell I'm doing back here. I told myself I would
>>>> never
>>>> become one of those bitter former NFB members. My only goal was to
>>>> provide
>>>> different perspectives to the new generation of leaders coming up through
>>>> the ranks. After all, if you never taste the real world, you have no
>>>> business leading. That's like the teacher who teaches because they
>>>> couldn't
>>>> cut it, and believe it or not, I want to see more and more of you excel
>>>> at
>>>> whatever it is you want to do. The more of you there are, the greater our
>>>> strength.
>>>> 
>>>> Moving forward I reckon I'll keep my opinions to myself here lest I be
>>>> the
>>>> rotten apple that spoils the bunch, but in some lame attempt to answer
>>>> the
>>>> original question, my answer would be this:
>>>> 
>>>> The characteristics of a successful blind person are humility to consume
>>>> what they need to be successful, fortitude to turn away what will not,
>>>> and
>>>> wisdom to recognize the difference.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Twitter: @ScribblingJoe
>>>> 
>>>> Visit my blog:
>>>> http://joeorozco.com/blog
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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