[nabs-l] making a decision about college
Antonio Guimaraes
freethaught at gmail.com
Mon May 5 18:35:10 UTC 2014
Hi Joe,
I'll admit I haven't read your blog entries about college attendance, so I will come in with my own bias, and experiences.
If income matters to you, mulla, dinero, you know, good old cash, a higher income and higher standard of living, then college has been proven to raise income by as much as 8 percent per year in college.
This has been sited again and again by economists in the Freakonomics podcast, and supported by experts appearing in the Marketplace Money podcast, both from National Public Radio.
I attend college, and have spent my own, as well as public funds on my education, so perhaps it would be wise to research before making this commitment in funds and time.
But I frankly do not wish to be influenced by too many skeptics, and arguments about people who left college to launch startups, and the like.
Much of it is how much you really put into it.
And remember, Bill Gates is the exception, not the rule.
Antonio
On May 4, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Joe <jsoro620 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is college worth it at all? I wrote a blog post on the subject. I also wrote
> one about the worth of graduate school. Read them here:
>
> http://joeorozco.com/blog_is_college_worth_it
>
> --
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sami osborne
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 7:19 PM
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] making a decision about college
>
> Thanks guys for all your comments.
> I especially like Vehas suggestion of going to another a country to study a
> language for my gap year.
> I myself, like to travel to other countries (we go to France every summer to
> visit my mom's family, as she is originally from France).
> I also would like to be a langubde interpreter or a teacher, and therefore
> to answer your question Arielle, Still am planning to major in languages.
> Btw, Vehas, how did you know that I want to work in the languages field?
> Sami.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Arielle Silverman <arielle71 at gmail.com
> To: National Association of Blind Students mailing list <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 04 May 2014 15:07:42 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nabs-l] making a decision about college
>
> Hi Sami,
>
> I agree with what everyone else has said. Most college freshmen are 18, and
> a few are still 17. So your age alone should not be a factor.
> I think it makes sense to take a gap year only if you have a clear plan for
> something to do during that year. Training at a good blindness center, like
> an NFB center, is a great idea. However, I don't think it's necessary for
> everybody to do it before college.
> What
> are you planning to major in?
>
> Best,
> Arielle
>
> On 5/4/14, Cindy Bennett <clb5590 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sami,
>
> I completely agree with the afore mentioned comments. If you believe at
> all that you could benefit from training, then go to a center for that gap
> year. I am saying this from the perspective of someone who was
> overconfident before college and who did not get the full college
> experience because once I actually went to college, I was intimidated by
> the real world and actually lacked confidence and relied on my friends too
> much. So go to a center in that gap year!
>
> I have a friend who volunteered for a year. That is a wonderful thing to
> do if you have the time and a place to stay. Volunteering can really
> enrich your experience. I think that too many college kids know little
> about the real world when they graduate. So whether you take time off
> school to volunteer or go straight to college, just try to have well
> rounded experiences during your summers and get a part-time job during
> school or get very involved in a volunteer organization in the community.
>
> However, to me, training should come first if you think that is necessary.
> It is best to do it as soon as possible so you maximize your years on earth
> with great blindness skills and the confidence to try new things and get
> great experiences. Plus, you will likely not have another time in your
> life that is as convenient to get traning.
> Once you start having to pay bills, you have to work, and often when you
> start working, you have to quit your job to go to training as you can't get
> that much time off. You can also volunteer in your free time while you're
> at a center.
>
> Cindy
>
> On 5/4/14, Suzanne Germano <sgermano at asu.edu> wrote:
> I think the only reason to take a year off is if you think you
> need to go
> to a center to gain blindness skills or if you were doing
> something like
> volunteering for a year and it would benefit your degree or if
> you really
> do not know what you want to major in and do not want to end up
> taking 6
> years for a BS because you change majors and have to take extra
> classes.
>
> But that won't necessarily happen. My daughter started in civil
> engineering
> and ended up with a BS in biology and has extra courses like
> differential
> equations and surveying that she did not need for bio. She
> still
> graduated
> in 4 years Summa Cum Laude but had one semester with 21 units
> and had
> some
> summer courses..
>
> Your parents are wrong. Most college freshman are 18 and
> straight out of
> high school. Most people do not take a year off. If you take a
> year off
> you
> need to expakin that year to future employers.
>
> I returned to school at 48. My Calc 3 class last semester was
> almost all
> kids straight out of high school and 18 years old.
>
> Suzanne
>
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Antonio Guimaraes
> <freethaught at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> You may not have the sufficient training ad skills to take a
> year off
> and
> get job experience.
>
> You'll speed things up a lot if you go straight to college, or
> take time
> to get needed blindness skills as needed.
>
> Do I read it right that your mom thinks you should not be
> 18-years old
> ad
> interact with older students? Welcome to the world, and to
> becoming a
> adult.
>
> Whether you are ready, feel ready, or your parents feel you're
> ready to
> face the world, you must at some point puss off of their
> protective
> wings.
> They are not against you, but they probably fear loosing the
> parental
> control they naturally have now.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Antonio
>
> On May 4, 2014, at 10:07 AM, sami osborne <ligne14 at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I am currently a junior in high school, and will therefore be
> graduating
> next ywhar.
> My intention is to go to college after I graduate, as the jobs I
> want
> to
> do require at least a college degree.
> However, my parents and I have been talking about whether to go
> to
> college right after high school or taking a gap year (a year
> between the
> end of high school and the end of college).
> Only thing is, this is a really tough decision on my part, since
> first
> of all I know that it is my decision, and not my parent's, in
> the long
> run.
> Secondly, this is also a hard decision to make because I know
> that
> there
> are benefits to both.
> I know that in college you can study for the kind of job that
> you want
> to do, and in taking a gap year, you can for instance get more
> training
> in
> daily living skills.
>
> So I'm therefore asking, what would you guys advise me to do, go
> straight to college or take a gap year and then go?
> I would really apreciate it if you could help me with this
> decision.
>
> Also, another thing, my mom told me that if I go strasght to
> college,
> I
> would be 18, I would be on the young side of the other students,
> do you
> think she's right?
> Also, if you advise me to do the gap year, what sort of
> activities can
> I
> do during this year?
> Thanks.
>
> Sami.
>
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