[nabs-l] Off-topic list messages

[Sami Osborne]

Hi Arielle,

First of all, congratulations on your new moderator position for 
this list! I'm sure you'll do a good job regulating discussions 
and prevent these things from happening.

Second, thank you for clearing this out about posting off-topic, 
particularly after that thread David created, as the people who 
replied to that turned the discussion into an argument in my 
opinion.
Also I agree will Elizabeth about  announcements of changes in 
the moderator positions and of the off-topic portion of the 
guidelines.
By the way, just a quick question: would there be any 
consequences for someone who posts off topic messages? Like, say, 
a warning, or a ban from the list? I'm just curious to know this.

Congratulations again for your new mod position, and best wishes 
for that.

Thanks,

Sami.


 ----- Original Message -----
From: Elizabeth Mohnke via nabs-l <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
To: "'Arielle Silverman'" <arielle71 at gmail.com>,"'National 
Association of Blind Students mailing list'" <nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 18:40:50 -0400
Subject: Re: [nabs-l] Off-topic list messages

Hello Arielle,

I was not aware of any changes in the moderation of this email 
list.  It was
my understanding that mary Fernandez was the moderator of this 
email list.  I
have sent several emails to her off list regarding this topic 
without
receiving any response.  It would be rather helpful to receive 
some kind of
announcement when changes in the list moderator occur so we can 
contact the
correct person to deal with these kinds of issues off the email 
list.  It
seemed to me that the guidelines Mary posted for posting to this 
email list
were very clear about not posting anything that does not have 
anything to do
with blindness or being a student.  I do not recall seeing any 
exceptions to
these guidelines as part of her poste.  Therefore, I believe 
these guidelines
should apply to everyone who posts to this email list without any
exceptions.

Warm regards,
Elizabeth

-----Original Message-----
From: nabs-l [mailto:nabs-l-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
Arielle
Silverman via nabs-l
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 4:16 PM
To: nabs-l at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nabs-l] Off-topic list messages

Hi all,
Sean and Mary appointed me as co-moderator for the list, so I 
want to
respond to the recent discussion about the radio show 
advertisements.
Here we have a custom of only posting messages to the list that 
pertain
specifically to blindness.  The main reason for this rule is to 
cut down on
list clutter.  David's radio show announcements are only on-topic 
for the
list if his show happens to be about blindness or NABS.  In this 
case, it is
not.  Labeling the post "o/t" also does nothing to nullify the 
clutter
generated.  And no one is exempt from list rules--not even our 
president.
However, complaining about off-topic posts on the list multiplies 
the
problem by increasing the amount of clutter generated.  A post 
from David
once a month creates a little bit of off-topic clutter, but seven 
replies to
that post is much more of a concern.
I am not aware if the list moderators came to a judgment about 
whether or
not David's radio show announcements would be permitted.  I am 
willing to
entertain off-list feedback from you guys about it, and I think 
Sean as
president should have the final say.  My recommendation is that 
the fairest
thing to do would be to disallow any radio show announcements 
that are
unrelated to blindness.  Otherwise, if we allow David we have to 
allow
everyone else.  I think it's fair to invite anyone who listens to 
David's
show and who wants to receive future announcements off-list to 
email David
directly.
The most important thing, though, is that if you see an off-topic 
post from
anybody here, please do not reply to it on-list, as doing so 
defeats the
purpose of enforcing topic rules.  Instead, please either delete 
it, or send
me, Sean, or Dave Andrews an email off-list stating your concern.  
This will
ensure the list remains as free of on-list clutter as possible.
Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.
Best,
Arielle
arielle71 at gmail.com

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