[nabs-l] Air travel an advise required

Mon Sep 1 14:10:45 UTC 2014

Good morning, Steve,

         I, too, am all about personal agency, regardless of views of 
what you believe blind people ought to be doing, or be able to do, 
etc. etc. etc.
Car
  06:13 AM 9/1/2014, Steve Jacobson via nabs-l wrote:
>Please know my comments were directed at the originall statement 
>that the airline did not allow blind people to board alone, which, 
>to me, means they are
>requiring that a blind person be accompanied.  This is an issue that 
>is independent of how one chooses to board a plane, and even when we 
>need help, we
>need to know that it is our choice and not the insistance of the 
>airline that should be the determining factor.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Steve Jacobson
>
>
>On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:58:02 -0700, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l wrote:
>
> >Hi, Steve,
>
> >         Did I use the word requirement without noticing, as anyone
> >who talks with me knows I veery well could have. People don't need to
> >be required to do anything, in this instance particularly, to be
> >manhandled on to a plane but by a same token, nobody need be
> >minimized for grabbing a shoulder, should that be the way he wants to
> >do it. At 08:02 AM 8/28/2014, Steve Jacobson via nabs-l wrote:
> >>While I don't completely disagree with Carly, I don't believe there
> >>is any law or regulation preventing a blind
> >>person from boarding a flight alone, and I don't think we can afford
> >>to let such claims go unchallenged even if we
> >>feel we might need help.  I don't know how best to handle this
> >>particular instance, but we have to do what we can
> >>to fight any tendency for government, business, or other
> >>well-intentioned people to feel someone else should be
> >>responsible for us.  Requesting a written copy of the policy might
> >>be a good start.  I have boarded alone
> >>countless times as have many others here.  There are times when a person
> >>might require help, and different people have different challenges
> >>so I am not saying it is never right to get
> >>boarding assistance, but that should not be a requirement, and I
> >>believe each of us has to try to be as
> >>independent
> >>as our ability allows.
> >>
> >>Best regards,
> >>
> >>Steve Jacobson
> >>
> >>On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:25:13 -0700, Carly Mihalakis via nabs-l wrote:
> >>
> >> >Good evening, Siddhi,
> >> >         While I don't believe in restricting anybody from boarding
> >> >an airplane, or any other conveyance, it would seem to me  your trip
> >> >unfolding more seamlessly if you were to inlist some help from, say,
> >> >Ol'Sighty, anywhere. It is my belief that, Ol'Sighty's often
> >> >pointless, and in many cases arbitrary measurements of us are in
> >> >fact, based on the ends to which you arrive, not the means you
> >> >happend to use to get there. So, I don't think they care how the
> >> >blink goes about arriving at a particular end. Take this example. I
> >> >believe Ol'Sighty will be impressed to see us flying period, not that
> >> >we might have completely "independently" boarded the plane, and
> >> found a seat.
> >> >I tend to believe that the person who gets to lead you to your seat,
> >> >while you are holding your cane and interacting with you,  is bound
> >> >to find more of an education about blind people's capabilities and
> >> >potentials than watching the blink bumble around, groping for
> >> >everything, of course, "independently."
> >> >for today, Car
> >> >408-209-3239
> >>
> >>
> >> >>Hope you all are doing well.
> >> >>
> >> >>Actually, I am planning to travel in USA and facing some issues.
> >> >>
> >> >>I have flight at Chicago airport operated by
> >> >>EXPRESSJET                 AIRLINES DBA
> >> >>UNITED EXPR owned by united airlines. I am in conversation with their
> >> >>customer care executive. They have informed me that On US domestic
> >> >>airport they do not allow individual  visually impaired to board
> >> >>alone. Is this an universal law or airline specific laws are
> >> >>implemented? Or is there any provision of USA government to tackle
> >> >>this issue? Is there any one travelled from this airline and had
> >> >>assistance on board?
> >> >>
> >> >>Sincerely
> >> >>Siddhi
> >> >>
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